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What are the 15 most important books in the Western tradition? No "complete works" allowed, but the Bible counts as one book.

>> No.20370015

1. The Oxford English dictionary

>> No.20370039

Go read a historical overview of literature if you want the important names and titles.

>> No.20370086

Western culture is the collective product of the thoughts, decisions, actions, and interactions of hundreds of millions of people in the western corner of the Eurasian continent (and North America) over many centuries. In order to assess what the most signficant works of the West are, we must divide culture into its constitutent components, which are:
>Politics
>Religion
>Poetry and music
>Fiction (which may be further divided into folk stories, high literature, and middlebrow or genre fiction)
>Science
>Philosophy

If we believe politics to be the most important aspect, then we would be forced to believe that the Roman law tables, the Justinian code of law, the Napoleonic code, and the American constitution are all more important than the work of any poet, fiction writer, essayist, or scientist. The average man lives under the rule of their country's government, pays taxes to it, and must serve the duties that his government commands him to obey. What the average person thinks about is, however, influenced by society and the context around them, which, although it may be reflected in works of art from the same time period and from the same region as them, might not necessarily be provoked by them.
The ones who enjoy epic or lyric poetry, high theatre, and belles lettres accounts of lives, fictional or real, are of a relatively small group of people (in comparison to the population as a whole), who have a strong preference for printed works over what they physically have directly before them, and who have much time to dedicate to leisurely contemplating such works.
The works of scientists are usually only read by people in their same field, who have the same hyperspecific specialty as them, and only become exceptionally noteworthy if they have notoriously far ranging applications in technology and medicine.
Now, of literature we could name the great works everyone has heard of (the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Iliad, the Aeneid, the Tale of Genji, the Canterbury Tales, Don Quixote, Faust, Ulysses, etc.), but we would have to leave all of the minor works from many different national, regional, and genre-specific traditions and schools that serve as stepping stones between each work, and that inspire each writer to go beyond merely replicating their great predecessors' ideas and onto creating a new work through a synthesis of many images woven together, be they in harmony or discord.

>> No.20370087

>>20370086
ps i suck cocks

>> No.20370164

Everyone trying to sound smart no one responding to the op

>> No.20370193

>>20370164
It's a stupid question that shouldn't be answered directly.

>> No.20370219

>>20370193
Pseud

>> No.20370264

>>20370164
including you. if you care so much about answering his question then do it yourself gayboy

>> No.20370323

>>20370013
greeks obviously

>> No.20370339

>>20370264
Homer's Iliad
Plato's Republic
Aristotle's Poetics
Thucydides' Peloponnesian War
Euclid's Elements

Virgil's Aeneid
The Bible
Augustine's Confessions
Dante's Divine Comedy
Chaucer's Canterbury Tales

Shakespeare's Hamlet
Milton's Paradise Lost
Hobbes' Leviathan
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
Goethe's Faust

>> No.20370353

>>20370013
Western Tradution Top 15
1. "Bible"
2. "Parmenides", by Plato
3. "Metaphysics", by Aristotle
4. "The Imitation of Christ", by Thomas Kempis
5. "The Cloud of Unknowing"
6. "The Mirror of Simple Souls", by Porete
7. "Divine Comedy", by Dante
8. "Enneads", by Plotinus
9. "Outlines of Pyrrhonism", by Sextus Empiricus
10. "Meditations", by Marcus Aurelius
11. "Corpus Hermeticum"
12. "Interior Castle", by Teresa of Avila
13. "The Critique of Pure Reason", by Kant
14. "Being and Time", by Heidegger
15. "Hávamál"

>> No.20370365

>>20370353
Sounds like a list of books that are important to you not important without qualification

>> No.20370388
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>>20370365
Read them, and you'll know.

>> No.20370454

>>20370353
Boethius is missing; so is Eriugena.

>> No.20371216

>>20370454
Boethius just repeated the same shit that the Platonists and Stoics said except in verse form and in Latin, and Eriugena just took what Platonists said and then added some Christian ideas and symbols that they could be used to exemplify Platonist theories with.

>> No.20371515

Bump

>> No.20371640

>>20370013
Im going to say one book.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il_Galateo

>> No.20371967

Bump for more rankings

>> No.20372210

>>20370339
>no French
Shit list

>> No.20372259

>most important books
>IMPORTANT
Not the highest quality or most influential?
So books like the Communist Manifesto and the Mein Kampf are more IMPORTANT than Shakespeare?

>> No.20372278

>>20372259
How are these books important? Do you think Nazism and communism wouldn't have happenend without them? lol

>> No.20372284

Introduction to the Study of the Hindu doctrines (Introduction générale à l'étude des doctrines hindoues, 1921)
Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-Religion (Le Théosophisme – Histoire d'une pseudo-religion, 1921)
The Spiritist Fallacy (L'erreur spirite, 1923)
East and West (Orient et Occident, 1924)
Man and his Becoming according to the Vedanta (L'homme et son devenir selon le Vêdânta, 1925)
The Esoterism of Dante (L'ésotérisme de Dante, 1925)
The King of the World (also published as Lord of the World, Le Roi du Monde, 1927)
The Crisis of the Modern World (La crise du monde moderne, 1927)
Spiritual Authority and Temporal Power (Authorité Spirituelle et Pouvoir Temporel, 1929)
St. Bernard (Saint-Bernard, 1929)
The Symbolism of the Cross (Le symbolisme de la croix, 1931)
The Multiple States of the Being (Les états multiples de l'Être, 1932)
Oriental Metaphysics (La metaphysique orientale, 1939)
The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times (Le règne de la quantité et les signes des temps, 1945)
Perspectives on Initiation (Aperçus sur l'initiation, 1946)
The Metaphysical Principles of the Infinitesimal Calculus (Les principes du calcul infinitésimal, 1946)
The Great Triad (La Grande Triade, 1946)
Initiation and Spiritual Realization (Initiation et réalisation spirituelle, 1952)
Insights into Christian Esoterism (Aperçus sur l'ésotérisme chrétien, 1954)
Symbols of Sacred Science (Symboles de la Science Sacrée, 1962)
Studies in Freemasonry and Compagnonnage (Études sur la Franc-Maçonnerie et le Compagnonnage, 1964)
Studies in Hinduism (Études sur l'Hindouisme, 1966)
Traditional Forms and Cosmic Cycles (Formes traditionelles et cycles cosmiques, 1970)
Insights into Islamic Esoterism and Taoism (Aperçus sur l'ésotérisme islamique et le Taoïsme, 1973)

>> No.20372286

>>20372278
>How are these books important
They are of great impact to western culture today

>> No.20372290

>>20370013
Cicero's On Laws
Boethius' Consolidation
Augustine's City of God
Bible (duh)
Plato's Republic

I can't really speak on anything else tb h
>>20371216
Just because Boethius did repeat things does not mean he is less important in Western Tradition. If anything he was even more important than Plato and Aristotle for a long period because of just how popular he was and how the Medieval West revered his works.

>> No.20372403

>>20372286
They literally aren't and today's culture is not that important in the large scope

>> No.20372410

>>20372284
>Western
>starts with Hindu schizo

>> No.20372481

>>20370353
>håvamål
lol lmao

>> No.20372492
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20372492

Refute this.

>> No.20372509

>>20372492
Lol
Lmao

>> No.20372741

>>20370339
This might be it.

>> No.20372882

>>20370339
Anyone got things to replace here? Not so sure about Paradise Lost.

>> No.20373341

Bump

>> No.20374226

>>20372492
>>20370339
Pretty good

>> No.20374241

>>20372492
>20th Century
>No Céline
Pseud faggot chart

>> No.20374309

>>20372492
It's probably the best list of the sort, but it still e.g. lacks any lyric poetry (outside of Poe's babby-tier stuff and Shakespeare's Sonnets within his "complete works" - in practice ignored). No Petrarca, no Baudelaire, no Horace, no Rimbaud, no Whitman...?

>> No.20374434

>>20370015
fpbp

>> No.20374466

>>20370013
No complete works allowed? Ok, I'm also gonna try to narrow it down to one per author. I'm listing them by order written, not order of importance.
>1. Homer - The Odyssey
>2. Ovid - The Metamorphosis
>3. God - The Bible
>4. Saint Augustine - Confessions
>5. Saint Dionysius The Aeropagite - On the Celestial Hierarchy
>6. Anonymous - Beowulf
>7. Saint Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica
>8. Anonymous - The Cloud Of Unknowing
>9. Dante - The Divine Comedy
>10. Shakespeare - Hamlet
>11. Dostoevsky - Crime And Punishment
>12. JD Salinger - Franny and Zooey
>13. Flannery O'Connor - Wise Blood
>14. David Foster Wallace - Infinite Jest
>15. Tom Wolfe - A Man In Full

>> No.20374499

>>20374309
terrible list of poets

>> No.20374530

>>20374499
Terrible sequence of words.

>> No.20374762

>>20370013
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

>> No.20374773

>40 responses
>only 3 posts are actually lists of 15 books

>> No.20374808

>gay thread
>41 response
>only 3 posts are actually photos of anons' asses

>> No.20375044

>>20372284
Based and guenon pilled

>> No.20375261

From the English lang canon:
Shakespeare-Hamlet/Sonnets
Beckett-Godot
Shelley-Lyrics
Wordsworth-Prelude
Dickens-Great Expectations
Tolkien-Lord of the Rings
Keats-Lyrics
Yeats-Lyrics
Spenser-Faerie Queen
Blake-Late Prophetic books
Milton-Paradise Lost
King James-Bible
Joyce-Ulysses/Finnegans Wake
Hemingway-Sun Also Rises

>> No.20375268

>>20370015
t. Hal Incandenza

>> No.20375720

>>20370013
The bible
The federalist papers
The general theory of employment, interest, and money
Principia Mathematica
Principia Mathematica (the other one)
Drug Facts and Comparisons
Grays Anatomy
The Art of Electronics
The Prince
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
The Interpretation of Dreams
On War
Critique of Pure Reason
Principles of Quantum Mechanics
The God Delusion

Fiction is for losers

>> No.20376013

>>20375261
>From the English lang canon:
>posts ranking no one asked for

>> No.20376043

Odyssey by Homer
Phaedo by Plato
Republic by Plato
Parmenides by Plato
Methaphysics by Aristotle
Poetics by Aristotle
Divine Comedy by Dante
Novum Organum by Francis Bacon
Discourse on the Method by Descartes
Critique of Pure Reason by Immanuel Kant
Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel
Thus Spake Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche
Tractatus logico-philosophicus by Ludwig Wittgenstein
Being and Time by Heidegger
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by T. S. Kuhn

>> No.20376069

>>20372492
>ficiton
refuted.

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>>20376043
>odyssey instead of iliad
>no bible
>those last 4 memes

>> No.20376167

Highly recommend Arguelles' list
https://www.alexanderarguelles.com/great-books/

>> No.20376248
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20376248

>>20370339
Literally the only list to include picrel.

>>20375720
Only list to include Principia Mathematica

No list has:
Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems
De Humani Corporis Fabrica
Micrographia

Which all set up important discoveries to the more general public, and without which much of modern science that underpins our current lifestyle would've been impossible or implausible. Galileo's and Robert Hooke's books also had metaphysical connotations at the time, and forced people to change their worldviews into acknowledging that something larger or smaller than them can still exist in intricate beauty.

>> No.20376274

>>20376248
>the stemcel "brain"

>> No.20376283

>>20376162
Still, he posted a better list than all the midwits listing muh fiction books and plays as if anyone cared about Shakespeare or Goethe outside of literature fans.

>> No.20376331

>>20376283
Go back

>> No.20376332

>>20376274
If you think natural science has less than a 1/3rd contributing factor to the western civilization, I don't know what kind of drugs you're doing.

>> No.20376339

>>20376332
Natural sciences don't advances through books aside from a few exceptions. Most stemcels like you don't even read your classics because you just read more recent advancements. But I'm talking to a stemcel so it's not like you can understand things. Your brain is not fully functional, you're not fully human. You're a tool for progress, so go back to your hamster wheel and don't concern yourself about thinking.

>> No.20376354

>>20376339
>Do you even history
Are you actually claiming that The Elements of Geometry, the most successful and arguably influential textbook ever written, of which the knowledge was necessary for aristocracy from the inception of quadrivium for multiple hundreds of years, doesn't matter? It stopped being read by every single educated person only after everything it contains was already duplicated in other textbooks.

Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems deals with the schism of the church and natural science, and how they can be opposing forces. To say that it had an impact on anything ranging from theology to natural sciences is an understatement. It got Galileo and his works banned from Catholic countries for 200 years, despite having an official license from the Inquisition.

I'm actually pretty sure you don't read books, but are just some kind of occultismlarper who thinks that licking moose testicles gives you the answers to the riddles of the universe or something.

>> No.20376359

>>20370339
The only legitimate candidate so far
>>20370353
Too niche
>>20372284
More than 15, not western, basically can't even read simple instructions let alone make a good list
>>20374466
Quickly turns to shit as soon as it goes past Shakespare
>>20375261
>only English
>still no Chaucer
>>20375720
Meme list not even trying
>>20376043
The last ones are really not important

>> No.20376360

I'm not qualified to make a list but all the 4 faggots who put Kant's Critique of Pure Reason are complete retards and have probably not read a book in their lives.
The Critique is an introductory text and not actually central to what Kant was trying to say but prepares the reader for his following works.

>> No.20376364

>>20376354
>Are you actually claiming that The Elements of Geometr
No you fucking retard I said with a few exceptions, which included Euclid.
>>20376360
You never read Kant

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>>20370013
>No "complete works" allowed, but the Bible counts as one book.
Retarded Christcuck. Yeah the Bible written by 10+ authors over 100+ years counts as a single book.

>> No.20376416

>>20376360
You are retarded. I´m reading the firs critique as we speak (just put it down). I haven´t read the whole thing but I can already tell you are wrong, given what came before him and what came after him. He responds to the rationalist/empiricist divide and his legacy is primarily bridging this gap in said book, as well as influencing Hegel.

>> No.20376418

>>CORE

Bible (KJV)

>Classics
Homer, "Odyssey"
Virgil, "Aeneid"

>Drama
Shakespeare, "Macbeth"
Marlowe, "Doctor Faustus"

>Poetry
Milton, "Lycidas"
Keats, selected

>Prose
Eliot, "Middlemarch"
Hawthorne, "Scarlet Letter"


>>FIRST RING

>Classics
Hamilton, "Mythology"
Sappho, fragments
Homer, "Iliad"
Sophocles, "Oedipus Rex"
Thucydides, "Peloponnesian War"
Plato, "Republic"
Plato, "Symposium"
Aristotle, "Poetics"
Aristotle, "Nicomachean Ethics"
Ovid, "Metamorphoses"
Cicero, "Letters"
Horace, "Odes"
Martial, "Epigrams"
Seneca, "Medea"
Aurelius, "Meditations"

>Drama
Shakespeare, "Hamlet"
Shakespeare, "King Lear"
Shakespeare, "Midsummer Night's Dream"
Shakespeare, "Tempest"
Shakespeare, "King Henry 4, Part 1"
Marlowe, "Jew of Malta"
Kyd, "Spanish Tragedy"
Webster, "Duchess of Malfi"
Jonson, "Volpone"
Wilde, "The Importance of Being Earnest"
Shaw, "Pygmalion"
Williams, "A Streetcar Named Desire"
Miller, "Death of a Salesman"

>Poetry
Wyatt, sonnets
Milton, "Paradise Lost"
Milton, "Areopagitica"
Donne, selected
Sidney, "Astrophil and Stella"
Pope, "Rape of the Lock"
Wordsworth & Coleridge, "Lyrical Ballads"
Byron, "Childe Harold's Pilgrimage"
Shelley, selected
Blake, "Marriage of Heaven and Hell"
Tennyson, "In Memoriam"
Dickinson, selected
Yeats, selected
T. S. Eliot, "The Waste Land"
Pound, selected

>Prose
Bunyan, "The Pilgrim's Progress"
Defoe, "Robinson Crusoe"
Swift, "Gulliver's Travels"
Shelley, "Frankenstein"
Austen, "Pride and Prejudice"
E. Bronte, "Wuthering Heights"
C. Bronte, "Jane Eyre"
Eliot, "Middlemarch"
Melville, "Moby Dick"
Dickens, "Great Expectations"
Wilde, "Picture of Dorian Gray"
Joyce, "Dubliners"
Fitzgerald, "Gatsby"
Nabokov, "Lolita"

>> No.20376430

>>20376360
>The Critique is an introductory text and not actually central to what Kant was trying to say
LMAO

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>>20370339
Pretty good but too much old shit.

-Aeneid
-Augustine
-Canterbury Tales
-Paradise Lost

+sth by Locke (more important than Hobbes)
+sth by Pushkin (greatest writer of the biggest European language)
+Moby Dick or Leaves of Grass (the most important American works pre 20th century)
+sth much more modern, for ex. DFW or Pelevin. I'm not sure what but something about technological and modernist alienation.

Additional candidates for removal
*-Aristotle
*-Faust

>> No.20376473

>>20376364
>>20376416
>>20376430
cope, Kant's most important legacy is his deontological morality.

Writing 800 pages to BTFO rationalists just to establish the fact that yes we in fact can know things is a waste of paper.

>> No.20376603

>>20376459
Very bad suggestions

>> No.20376609

>>20376473
His most important contribution by far is in epistemology, but even if, let's say, you're a double digit retard like you are who thinks his most important contribution is the categorical imperative, that is still entirely based on his epistemology and subordinated to it.

>> No.20376744

>>20370339
/thread

>> No.20376838
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20376838

This is my choice..I think they all carry a good amount of use in life,

>> No.20376845

>>20376838
>half of the most important books in history were written several years ago and influenced nothing of any significance

>> No.20376850

>>20370339
Replace Paradise Lost with Cicero's On the Commonwealth and ship it

>> No.20376851

>>20376838
>KJV
because obviously.
>St.Augustine Confessions
It's good to know, because this guys long way around to redemption gives hope those who are like, "I'm fucked."
> The Trivium.
The liberal arts included in this book, especially logic are key to our future.
> The game Of Life and How To Play It
I just really like this book and you might too.

>> No.20376860

>>20376845
Basically. Everything now is self-help, geared to authors profit, name and bullshit

>> No.20376887

>>20372284
holy based...

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20376993

>The Holy Bible
>Wealth of Nations
>The Republic
>Divine Comedy
>Age of Reason
>Summa Theologica
>Shakespeare (hamlet)
>Origin of Species
>Das Capital
>Critique of Pure Reason
>The Prince
>The Rights of Men
>The Reasonableness of Christianity
>Plutarch Lives
>Historia Regum Britanniae
>Illiad/Odyssey
>On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres
>Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy and Optics

>> No.20377397

>>20376993
kek 2 works from fucking thomas paine

>> No.20377908

>>20370339
Is Faust really that important? I don't think so

>> No.20377935

>>20370339
Very good list but I'd replace Canterbury Tales with the Icelandic Sagas.

>> No.20377965

>>20377935
I don't think either are that important overall, outwith England and Iceland

>> No.20378003

>>20370013
I made this list based on the influences on fiction, historical writing, and mainstream philosophy.
1) Herodotus' Histories
2) Iliad
3) Plato's Republic
4) Aristotle's Metaphysics
5) Ovid's Metamorphoses
6) New Testament
7) Augustine's Confessions
8) Dante's Divine Comedy
9) Chaucer's Canterbury Tales
10) Malory's Death of Arthur
11) Erasmus' Praise of Folly
12) Shakespeare's Hamlet
13) Goethe's Faust
14) Paradise Lost
15) Moby Dick


If I weren't limited to 15 I would have added Thucydides, Tacitus, Viking Sagas, City of God by Augustine, Homilies by St. John Chrysostom, Plutarch's Lives, Magic Mountain, Clarissa by Richardson, Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon, and lots more.

>> No.20378009

>>20377965
Chaucer is definitely extremely important to english literature. The sagas are great but not nearly as influential.

>> No.20378021

>>20378009
The sagas had a huge influence on Chaucer and early English lit as a whole.

>> No.20378039

>>20378021
That's fair, they pretty much anticipate the novel. But I think Chaucer is still more influential in terms of plotting, interpretation of classical stories, and language.

>> No.20378046

>>20372492
Is paradise lost really essential? In my country i have never heard it mentioned.

>> No.20378064

>>20376418
Thats more like the anglo canon + a couple frens.

>> No.20378103

>>20378003
This is pretty similar to >>20370339 but with these additions:

>Herodotus instead of Thucydides
I think it's fair
>Ovid instead of Virgil
I don't see this
>NT instead of the Bible
No point in this limitation
>Metaphysics instead of Poetics
I think if you go by this you should also have Thucydides instead of Herodotus. Thucydides is more influential in academic history, but Herodotus is more influential overall. Similarly, Metaphysics is very important in metaphysics but Poetics is more important overall
>10) Malory's Death of Arthur
>11) Erasmus' Praise of Folly
>15) Moby Dick
I don't really agree they're that important.

And I'm not convinced about Goethe's Faust on either lists. I think Origin of Species is more deserving. Goethe is there just because we have no great literary figure from the 19th century on.

>> No.20378118

>>20378046
I would say so. At least in english speaking countries. It is an expansion and synthesis of the first few chapters of genesis, and has influenced the Protestant vision of the devil a lot in America especially.

>> No.20378141

>>20378103
Ovid is more worth reading if you don't read latin. All of the reason to read to Virgil is because of his genius in writing latin, none of which translates into English, at least. I put the new testament because the old testament isn't really a western text in thought.
The point about metaphysics is fair, though instead of poetics I would say ethics or politics is more influential.

Death of Arthur is the culmination of the fiction of the middle ages, so I think it is fair to include it. Erasmus' Praise of Folly perfectly captures the spirit of the post-medieval, pre-enlightenment era, in my opinion.

Moby Dick is definitely debatable but it is one of the most dramatically powerful novels. If you want something more influential, you could pick Gulliver's Travels, Robinson Crusoe, Tom Jones, Clarissa, David Copperfield, Pride and Prejudice, Middlemarch, Madam Bovary, etc. Moby Dick has the advantage of being American, though.
Goethe could definitely be replaced, I was never a hug fan of him either. There could be a lot more non-fiction on this list like The Rise and Fall of The Roman Empire or Education of Henry Adams.

>> No.20378438

https://goldmundunleashed.com/the-36-books-which-are-part-of-my-traveling-library/
Which books are part of your travelling library /lit?

>> No.20378517

Was Lolita the most influential book of the 20th Century?

>> No.20378564

>>20378438
Canterbury Tales
Shakespeare Tragedies
Ovid's Metamorphoses
A jane austen novel
Herodotus Histories

>> No.20378568

>>20378517
No, probably something more mundane. like Lord of the Rings

>> No.20378743

>>20378118
Ah, my country is is/was catholic and not english-speking so that must be the reason.

>> No.20378749

>>20378118
For this reason it shouldn't be in the list. Darwin or Cicero are better choices.

>> No.20378776

>>20378517
>>20378568
If you mean influential in general, not just literarily, I'd unironically say Mein Kampf or something WW2 related since it was the most decisive event of the century (tho Mein Kampf itself is not important, it collects the "rationale" of one of the central figures of the war).
Excluding the USA, the entire west had to be pretty much reinvented after WW2, from its identity to its cities and art, and it set up the West vs East conflict that would define the rest of the century. We still live in its aftermath.

>> No.20378787

>>20378749
Yeah, it might be fundamental to the protestant half of the west, but i'd say there are many more universally fundamental books

>> No.20379230

>>20378776
just because ww2 was important doesn't mean a random book related to the event is important lol no book caused ww2

>> No.20379236

>>20372284
Not bad, will have to check some of these out.

>> No.20379244

The 20th century had no important books. Maybe Hayek could've been but no one really took seriously aside from lolberts

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>>20372284
PBUH

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>most lists don't have a single book after 1900
you fags know that ""start" from the greeks" means you eventually move on

>> No.20380483

>>20380478
Keep quiet midwit

>> No.20380512

>>20370339
I thought the odyssey was better than the Iliad tbqh

>> No.20380772

>>20380483
>Keep quiet midwit

>> No.20380802

>>20374466
>12. JD Salinger - Franny and Zooey
>13. Flannery O'Connor - Wise Blood
>14. David Foster Wallace - Infinite Jest
>15. Tom Wolfe - A Man In Full
come on dude

>> No.20380833

>>20370086
you stupid nigger.

>> No.20381052

> but the Bible counts as one book
So? why would that be mentioned?

>> No.20381056

>>20381052
Because there are multiple books?

>> No.20381126

>>20381052
because muh religion is based

>> No.20381183

>>20381126
>be religion
>form the backbone of culture for over 4000 years in ur path

>> No.20381251

>>20380478
>le progression!
Marvel fan computer programmer detected

>> No.20381296

>>20370339
>euclid
why? i would replace it with Oedipus Rex.
otherwise, perfect

>> No.20381321

>>20381183
>>form the backbone of culture for over 4000 years in ur path
more like
>*rehashes Aristotle for 1000+ years*

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>>20372492
Good except 20th century is severely lacking diversity for a lack of a better word. Only one french? Where is celine?

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>>20370353
>Heinigger
Two faced nazi-ass-licking coward. All of his works are propagandat-tier shit

>> No.20381784

>>20372492
Entry level trash

>> No.20381811

>>20381784
...yes, it is entry level. That's the point of the chart.

>> No.20382085

>>20381296
>The Elements is still considered a masterpiece in the application of logic to mathematics. In historical context, it has proven enormously influential in many areas of science. Scientists Nicolaus Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Albert Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton were all influenced by the Elements, and applied their knowledge of it to their work.[11][12] Mathematicians and philosophers, such as Thomas Hobbes, Baruch Spinoza, Alfred North Whitehead, and Bertrand Russell, have attempted to create their own foundational "Elements" for their respective disciplines, by adopting the axiomatized deductive structures that Euclid's work introduced.
>The austere beauty of Euclidean geometry has been seen by many in western culture as a glimpse of an otherworldly system of perfection and certainty. Abraham Lincoln kept a copy of Euclid in his saddlebag, and studied it late at night by lamplight; he related that he said to himself, "You never can make a lawyer if you do not understand what demonstrate means; and I left my situation in Springfield, went home to my father's house, and stayed there till I could give any proposition in the six books of Euclid at sight".[13][14] Edna St. Vincent Millay wrote in her sonnet "Euclid alone has looked on Beauty bare", "O blinding hour, O holy, terrible day, When first the shaft into his vision shone Of light anatomized!". Albert Einstein recalled a copy of the Elements and a magnetic compass as two gifts that had a great influence on him as a boy, referring to the Euclid as the "holy little geometry book".[15][16]
>The success of the Elements is due primarily to its logical presentation of most of the mathematical knowledge available to Euclid. Much of the material is not original to him, although many of the proofs are his. However, Euclid's systematic development of his subject, from a small set of axioms to deep results, and the consistency of his approach throughout the Elements, encouraged its use as a textbook for about 2,000 years. The Elements still influences modern geometry books. Furthermore, its logical, axiomatic approach and rigorous proofs remain the cornerstone of mathematics.

>> No.20382232

>>20370339
Homers Iliad wasnt influential until late 20th centu. We can remove it and replace it with Karl Marx at the end.
Replace Augustine Confessions with Koran.
Hamlet with an actually influential piece of Elizabethan blockchain such as Faerie Queef or The Rapiss rather than a Matt Damon movie.
Chaucer might as well be replaced with The Cat In The Hat.
May as well change Goethes Faust for The Principia Mathematica or Darwin if you were gonna include Euclid for whatever reason?

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>>20382232

>> No.20382393

>>20382232
>your post
>your opinions
Trash.

>> No.20382617

>>20377397
Think what you want but they made major contributions to the modern western thinking good or bad

>> No.20383331

>>20370339
>Milton's Paradise Lost
I wish this meme died

>> No.20383364

>>20383331
get fucked, it's good

>> No.20383367

>>20383364
>it's good
Not what the thread is about retard. There are a lot of good books.

>> No.20383460

>>20381052
What do you think βιβλία means?