/lit/ - Literature

>>20374148
reading is for pseudos

Ulysses is really fun and if it filtered you it’s okay OP you can admit it

Its 100 years old and contains countless references to the pop culture of his time...in england and ireland....100 years ago....a hundred. It doesnt hit like it did in 1945 or even the 1960s when people really deified him. Its incredible writing, incredible skill, incredible incredible incredible. You would hav sniffed his eye patch for lunch if u lived back then nigger. Its terrible now, unreadable of coarse, pull your hair out terrible buuuut if joyce wrote something more modern, if he was alive now..youde suck him off. Is it terrible? Yes it is, but only because its old and not old in the same sense that plato is old, its old in the way george carlin or richard Pryor is old. R they amazing comedians? Yes...are they funny? No.....topical art always ages badly. We cant deny that he filtered all of your favorite writers post depression. Weather u like him or not. Faggot

>>20374264
based

who's the best then? or the current year equivalent?

>>20374148
I gotta say, the man seems based. I haven't read anything by him and don't plan on it, on account of him being a pompous perverted degenerate Irish fecalpheliac, but I do respect that he wrote a book that is so dense and esoteric.

>>20374329
didn't ask

>>20374148
Name one book that stands as a greater celebration of language and literature than Ulysses, and I will never come to this website again. If a horrible accident destroyed all media ever to exist except for Ulysses, whoever was still alive to find it would know of humankind’s greatest achievement, because it utilizes language, prose, and the human condition in the most human way that’s ever been done. You got filtered, plain and simple. Start back at Dubliners and read the rest chronologically from there and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

DFW is unfortunately the closest fag we have to joyce now and hes dead thank god. Although the more i read dfw and think about his suicide and hatred of women the more i like him.

>>20374148
i read dubliners and liked it but got open filtered by finnegan’s wake. is portrait of the artist or ulysses more in the vein of the former or the latter.

>>20374376
but ive got to say it.

>>20374391
>>20374291
>>20374264
>>20374175
I've never read any of his books :)

>>20374427
wrong

Joyce is great. And in the age where you can google anything on the tip of your fingertips, none of his books are "hard".

>>20374148
I have to read this shit Tuesday 11 am for a gay ass museum date and I'm getting seriously filtered.
Why is this book so hard to read it's not like I'm a pussy I've read War and Peace and Huasipungo

>>20374264
havent read joyce but im sure he was more than topical and george carlin is anything but an amazing comedian precisely because hes not funny. "topical" art is never not tiresome

>>20374291
>>20374427
>the closest fag we have to joyce now

>>20374148
t. filtered

>>20374436
closer to dubliners relatively. although you should know Ulysses is about as difficult and slow as an epic poem is, most people enjoy those, but you have to give it a chance.
Also i mentioned this in another thread, but I really don't see the point of reading FW while in the middle of the of the afternoon in a logical mindset. Once you get tired later in the day, and your thoughts start to flow together, the language games will be eerily beautiful.

>>20374264
>George Carlin
>not funny
confirmed pleb

>>20374590
tolstoy is read by women often, its not hard, its just really good.
You have to actually read english lit

>>20374602
he is more than topical. Joyce's stated goal was to "get to the heart of any city in the world" by trying to include every detail he could about dublin in 1904

>>20374694
Well I guess this would be my toddler wheels.
I hope I actually enjoy it or I'll feel worse than when I had to go through Children of Dune

>>20374148
>He is one of the most experimental writers in the English language but certainly not the best.
Name someone better than him.

I liked Dubliners and A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
I haven't read anything else but both books have stuck with me ever since I read them 8 years ago
Maybe I'm pretentious but I don't feel like those two books were particularly pretentious

>>20374427
>his hatred of women
Is this true? does it shine forth in his works?
If he's truly a good misogynist I might actually pick up his work; I've been avoiding him on the assumption that he's of the modernist bugmen vibe, just of the 'b ur self' trust-fund variety.

Just finished Paradise lost, again. Lovely book, the misogyny is really on point; Eve never appears without someone making an allusion to the frailties of her sex. I genuinely gave me some intuitive theological views, mostly focusing on how evil Eve, the cause of all our woe, was, as well as Adam for selling paradise for a femoid.

>>20374722
You're going to love the last 100 pages, faggot.

>>20376039
They weren't. They were downright naturalistic.

>>20374264
Find Christ, Pynchon. You're getting closer.

>>20374264
Youre yankin my chain

>>20376029
Jk rowling

>>20374148
>James Joyce is incredibly overrated by pseudo-intellectuals who want to seem intelligent. He is one of the most experimental writers in the English language but certainly not the best.