/lit/ - Literature

>>20345683
Tweets

the classics do be lit fr.

zoomers are the first post-literate generation. The average american reads at a fourth grade level, something I expect to drop precipitously over the next 20 years as social media returns us to a pre-literate, oral-visual culture.

>>20345683
Whatever audible books are shilled to them in sponsorships by internet personalities.

Zoomers are genuine subhumans. They can't read and aren't even physically fit despite their obsession with lifting. I seriously doubt most zoomers could run even a mile or two without breaking down.

>>20345683
Guenon and TikTok comments

>>20345683
What, do zoomers read?

They probably watch AI Youtube videos that summarise books in 10 minutes.

>>20345683
Do they read? Maybe exclusively YA and high school assignments

Zoomer here. I began reading as a hobby at around 17-18. I started with the beatniks (Thompson, Burroughs, Kesey, Kerouac). Then I moved onto existentialists (Dostoevsky, Camus, Sartre). I did try taking a crack at some situationalist lit (Primarly Debord and some Vaneigem and early Baudrillard) though I will admit I did have some trouble comprehending their respective works especially Baudrillard. At that point I decided to start at the beginning with the Greeks. I read Hesiod, Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and some secondary philosophical texts on the pre-socratics before reading Plato's complete works. Next I read the Nicomachean Ethics, but decided I was tired of the Greeks and decided to go straight to the Enlightenment thinkers. I started with Descartes, moved onto Spinoza, then Leibniz, then Locke, and currently I'm reading Hume's Enquiry. I plan on reading Kant's prolegomena afterwards. I'm 21 now.

>>20345683
Boffa

>>20345683
Nick Land and CCRU
t. tranny zoomer

>>20345829
What's your haircut like?

>>20345829
Fucking idiot lol

>>20345850
Interesting, how did you start?
I'm 30 and found that stuff through K Punk and Simon Reynolds blogs. I never here zoomers talk about ccru.

>>20345829
You are a fucking loser and just regurgitating/Lit/‘s proposed order of reading, fag.

>>20345867
exactly like pic rel, unkempt and everything. my gf is constantly telling me to put it in a bun but fuck that.

5 types of zoomers:
(A) Nothing
(B) Manga, LNs
(C) YA/romance trash
(D) A ton of philosophy and classics, but not for any actual reason, rather, just for the status that comes with being "well read" on certain basket weaving forums and Twitter.
(E) A subset of D: Reads """obscure""" authors like Guenon, Nick Land etc. Probably has an anime profile picture on Twitter and posts le epic esoteric trollface memes.

>>20345892
>>20345898
>t. crabs

>>20345900
Based. Tell that bitch it isn't 2008 anymore or just piss her off by growing a mustache and getting a mullet.

>>20345900
1 ticket to The Northman, please.

i'm 23, am I a zoomer?

>>20345958
Yes. Im old enough to be your dad.

>>20345915
I was born in ‘98. Currently blasting Vox Vulgaris and reading Idylls of the King by Lord Venison. What now, chud?

>>20345969
It's not exhaustive, just broad groups. I am not a zoomer, so it's mostly just drawn from ones I've seen online.

>>20345683
They don't.

>>20345683
Steinbeck

>>20345915
Unlike you who clearly doesn't read to virtue signal their intellectual status

>>20345683
I have this exact haircut lol. Currently reading Rousseau

>>20345683
I'm reading Sophokles

I used to read shits like divergent when I was a zoomer

>>20346002
It kinda looks like an early stages mushroom cloud

>>20345900
You must become the Cobain of your generation

>>20346035
>when I was a zoomer
???

>>20345900
Your writing style tells me you are not the other guy

zoomers in this thread who do read books, how do you feel about your generation? From my view, literacy significantly started falling off with the advent of radio, then television accelerated the trend, and now social media, particularly the evolution from text-intensive social media like facebook to picture (instagram) and video (tiktok) intensive is eroding the daily utility of literacy. There will always be those who read, but it will become an increasingly elite few as the century progresses would be my guess.

>>20346053

Generational theory is bullshit.

>>20346092
No it's not.

>>20346067
>zoomers in this thread who do read books, how do you feel about your generation?
It’s easier to fuck girls my age so I don’t care that much. No one gets my actual schizophrenic humour though. Our mental illness is exploding; we have the highest rates of autism and schizophrenia diagnosis, which is pretty funny. I don’t know if health professionals are over-diagnosing it.
>There will always be those who read, but it will become an increasingly elite few as the century progresses would be my guess.
That’s a good thing. From what I’ve read of Antiquity, Medieval, Viking, Elizabethan, and Modernist texts, it seemed better when it was an elite caste of poets and readers. Penguin and its American wing, New American Library, popularised Homer too much in my opinion… now we have shitty prose translations by women.

>>20346093
It is it's much too broad, it holds for a group like the baby boomers, but there are so many variables that generational theory really tells you nothing.

>>20346116
From my experience, it's been pretty accurate. I can tell what someone will be like from their age, just like how I can tell what someone will be like by their looks.

>>20346122
Yeah no shit. Turns out physiognomy is actually real.

>>20345683
I was born in 2003 and I like reading.

>>20346092
Americans can do whatever they want, but I saw this shit imported in my country recently. Keep this divisive shit away from us.

I'm gen Z and I read a lot of Evola and Guenon last year, now it is various Greeks, Plutarch, and other more esoteric stuff. The last fiction I read was American Psycho, which was enjoyable but I don't really like fiction now.

>>20346253
>Plutarch, and other more esoteric stuff
Since when is Plutarch "esoteric"?

>>20345897

This discord servers he was groomed in talk exclusively about it.

>>20346253
You sound like you're double digit IQ

>>20346303
>sound
Nice projection, nigger.

>>20346267
Morals is esoteric.

>>20346326
>Morals is esoteric

These are the people that post on lit…
It’s so fucking over…

My nephew reads greeks and thomas mann+poetry. He has a gf and smokes weed.

>>20346333
You wouldn't know one way or the other.

>>20346338
ok

>>20346333
Most ancient writings have an esoteric dimension provided you know how to read them. Do you think mythology was just bedtime stories for children?

>>20346303
I may have 2 digit IQ... in the octadecimal system!

>>20345683
I'm 20 and I've been reading more Carl Jung and like this anon said>>20346253
more Evola lately. For years I've really enjoyed reading authors like Aleister Crowley, Israel Regardie, Alan Watts, Timothy Leary, Terence McKenna, Dennis McKenna, Neville Goddard, and a lot of the Greeks. My favorite reads are different culture's ideas of metaphysics and religion, such as the tanakh and the vedas. Its what inspired me to learn Biblical Hebrew as my third language. Next I want to learn Greek. I am not surprised that there is always a faggy "zoomer" thread on this board although I am a little disappointed

>>20346384
Have you read Evola's intro to magic or his work on Hermeticism? what did you think of it? quite different from Jung's interpretation of Alchemy, and there is a "scathing critique" of Jung in ItM 3.

>>20345829

Locke and Kant are good read.

>>20346108
>Our mental illness is exploding
Don't listen to them

I read a lot of Wikipedia, and when if I'm not reading Wikipedia, I'm reading an ancient text or a modern commentary.

>>20346267
>>20346326

"Esoteric" should be defined "provoking interest [as in a puzzle box]"

Similar to how the word "Erotic" means "provoke desire."

How to most /lit/ guys define "esoteric?"

>>20345966
You make me feel so young
You make me feel like Spring has sprung

>>20346443

just because erotic also starts with an e doesnt mean you can just make up the definition to esoteric

>>20345829
>skips all of Medieval Philosophy
>decided to go straight to the Enlightenment thinkers
>I started with Descartes
>I plan on reading Kant's prolegomena afterwards
Go back nigger

>>20346361
>morals is esoteric
This is grammatically incorrect you dumb gorilla nigger.

>>20346483
No it isn't, morals is the title which i didn't capitalize you fascist asshole

>>20346515
You did capitalize it though. That guy is retarded and you sound like a tranny.

>>20346427
Evola is spot-on when he says that Jung is more into psychology than metaphysics. I agree with Evola on Jung in many respects but I still enjoy a lot of what Jung has to say. People misunderstand Jung all of the time, and its understandable, as the beginning of his career he didn't talk about metaphysics. He was just infiltrating the minds of those who wouldn't otherwise listen

>>20346533
ya but i'm doing it ironically

>>20346538
based and redpilled

>>20345683
They read the same books as /lit/, which is to say, they don't read at all.

>>20345683
Twitch chat.

I'm 23 and all I just read cool lit fiction, biographies of great men and the Greeks.

>>20345792
nice pun

/lit/ won't tell you but shit hasn't changed in ages.

Most men start reading later in life, zoomers that have reached the age of 17-19 begin picking up books the same way you picked them up when you were a hormonally charged stinking teenager.

Yes, they do read YA because surprise surprise they are the target demographic for those kind of novels, the ones that pick up stuff like Kerouac or Bukowski often find them attractive because they're not as thick or dense as what they must've read in school, and no, it's not muh ADHDH ridden zoomerinos, it's because you develop a taste as you go and later on you apprecciate stuff like the odyssey for what they convey, and YA writers encapsulate the mindset of the average young adult, they feel what happens in the book.

>"b-but muh tiktokers and I saw my 7 year old niece who is totally unbased and and and-"

Normalfags, you're talking about normalfags, EVERY single fucking generation has normalfags and outcasts, the fr fr no cap zoomers that live rent free on your head would've been the same people that used to dress up like fucking emos or wiggers.

>>20345898
Not really, starting with the greeks is the autistic /lit/ path, his begininng with the beatniks comes across as sincere and typical of a lot of young people

>>20345683
I hate that haircut so fucking much.
I lack words to describe the burning hatred that i feel for it.

>>20345683

'98 zoomer here, I'm reading Demons right now as my main evening book but I read a little bit of scripture in the morning and evening as well
Last few books finished:
>The Orthodox Church
>No Longer Human
>Frankenstein
>Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>Growth of the Soil
>American Psycho

Zoomer here. I began reading as a hobby at around 12 due to compulsory education I started with picture books like Diary of a Wimpy Kid and Captain Underpants. Then I moved onto bigger books like Hatchet and Holes. At that point I decided to start take a crack at big book series like Hunger Games, Divergent, and Percy Jackson. Next I tried to read Harry Potter books, but decided I was tired of fantasy shit. At the moment I'm reading The Kill Chain: How Emerging Technologies Threaten America's Military Dominance by Christian Brose. Soon I plan to read Twelve Rules for Life and Babyfucker. I'm 21 now.

>>20345683
Caesar's Commentaries, Campaigns of Napoleon, Conquest of New Spain, Siege of Malta, The Great Game: On Secret Service in High Asia, oh and The Witcher books.
I'm 21.

>>20347741
how are you finding Demons? I just finished it, and i'm still undecided. There's a bunch of great moments, but as a whole the novel just seems so chaotic/confused

>thread is assuredly going to devolve into a zoomer hate thread
>one zoomer provides a post of his surprisingly decent literary escapades
>millennials are so perturbed and shocked that they can do nothing but react ironically or outright call zoomer a loser
>millennials wonder why lit is dying
>>20347477
exactly. the fact that this post hasn't even been acknowledges serves to show that people on here just want to complain and posture.

Born in 2000, currently 21. I mostly read classic scifi and poetry. Currently reading Notes from Underground and Roadside Picnic. I plan on reading more from the Russians this summer.
My younger brothers don't read at all.

>>20345683
I am 20. I started off reading surrealists at 16, mostly because before that I was obsessed with music and it seemed to be the closest style of writing to music. I quickly realized that philosophy provided an analogous function to music, and proceeded to read Nietzsche, Lichtenberg, La Rochefoucauld, Kierkegaard, Freud, the presocratics, Leibniz, a close study of Spinoza, relevant sections in Descartes, relevant sections in Locke, relevant sections in Hume, Baudrillard, Bataille, a close study of Berkeley, Schopenhauer, Kant, Mainlander, Stirner, Wittgenstein, Stendhal (as a theorist, I'm referring to his On Love), A.J. Ayer, and others who are omitted due to lack of prestige, or who I simply forgot to mention, as well as supporting literature and philosophical papers on relevant topics, and textbooks on topics like formal logic (though this is also of interest because I am a math major). I am currently reading Hans Albert's Treatise on Critical Reason.
>>20346067
It doesn't really matter that people don't read. Have we ever expected everyone to be educated? What matters is that people have access to materials that allow them to be educated if they want to.

>>20345683
Zoomer here. I always carry a Bible everywere I go. When I feel sad or lost I read it but not too much because it makes me go on the edge of tears.
I mostly like to read books about optics, art and technical video or photography.
I'd like to study philosphy and economics some day. I like to read stuff like Tchekhov or Dostoïevski for now but when I'll be finished I want to read Notre Dame, A la recherche du temps perdu and War and peace. Then learn italian to read Dante, Bocacce, Petrarca and Pasolini. Also German to help me study philosphy and economics.
Some zoomers I know like to read from time to time. Most of them don't really make a big deal about of it. Thoses who do mostly do it to sound intelligent. I don't know how most zoomer are. They seem pretty superficial. I don't know if I represent them. But I think some of them read from time to time. Althought I'm pretty sure most of them read shitty young adult novels or bourgeois neoliberal propaganda

I'm a '99 zoomer currently reading Paradise Lost. The last 5 books I read were East of Eden, some Joseph Campbell, Dubliners, Beyond Good and Evil, and Mallory's Death of King Arthur.

>zoomer bad, they just is
I've got millennial-seethe fatigue

>>20347829
Anon, its common knowledge that /lit/ doesn't read. Why did you expect things would be different?

>>20345683
catcher in the rye

>>20345683
im reading the Stories of John Cheever rn

>>20347637
Same. It is part of the mongrelisation of whites, trying to make their hairstyles match the hair of the darker foreign races with wooly pube hair.

Millenials are modern boomers. Gen Z is superior.

>>20347829
>the fact that this post hasn't even been acknowledges serves to show that people on here just want to complain and posture.
Welcome to /lit/, anon. If you want to discuss actual books, you need to go to different boards.

I just read the fun classics, philosophy, and mythology collections. My fellow zoomer siblings and friends all read classics with a bit of fantasy mixed in.

>>20345683
Whatever the long nose man tell them too.

>>20345915
3 types of Millennials
(1) Insufferable resenting faggot
(2) Total pussy
(3) Small cock and cucked overcompensator

>>20348428
Ah yes, those curly-haired mongrel emperors of Rome. How I detest such barbaric freaks that did nothing of note for Western Civilization.

>>20345915
absolutely seething oldcels itt

>>20345683
Looks like half the guys I fuck

>>20349618
That is not remotely the same haircut retard get your eyes checked

>>20349645
The other guy was talking about curly hair, not the short sides aspect

>>20345683
I dont like people who get perms, its appropriation of us naturally curly chads

>>20346108
>highest rates of autism and schizophrenia diagnosis
Yeah because doctors diagnose you with meme diseases at the slightest hint of having a different personality
Idk if they do it for kicks or they wanna sell pills or what

>>20345683
I'm a zoomer (21). Generalizing an entire generation in the way people do in this thread is pure midwittery. If you're a high IQ, thinking person then you're going to seek intellectual stimulation and will likely find youth culture meaningless. That's the case with me and most of my intelligent friends. That has been the case with intelligent people among all generations, and all generations have had boomer retards complaining about them. The problems you have are with youth in general, your generation was as fucking retarded as this one.

Anyways, I love Nabokov and DeLillo, my favorite book is Don Quixote. My most literary zoomer friend is a huge fan of Pynchon.

>>20347477
17 is pretty late to start a reading habit. And millennials are a pretty “unread” generation as well, but seemed to have some advantage to reading more.

Netflix has hollowed out most millennials who may have occasionally read. I don’t think you can act as if every generation reads as much as the last.

>>20349645
Reading comprehension problems on the literature board? More likely than you'd think.

>>20345683
brandon sanderson

>>20349645
Lmao dude you're retarded.

>>20345915
Wait were is option (F) Fanfictions?

>>20345683
The fact that most of /lit/ has some kind of strange stereotype of a zoomer in their head in the first places proves that it’s out of touch with the current generation and very old…. I’ve never seen that haircut in my life either. Very rare!

>>20345829
You sound like the most pretentious loser ever. Reading a bunch of old philosophic and political works doesn’t make you jack shit.

I just finished anti-oedipus
I am about to start being and time (i already started listening to the dreyfus lectures)

>>20346067
17 french zoomer here
I try to get my friends into reading (got them reading Le voyade de Céline so it's not hopeless, they even liked it) but the vast majority of my camarades are quite illiterate and uncultivated. The cliché of the netflix/instagram/youtube generation is real.

>>20349926
>17
Bye bye

I have no respect for anyone under the age of 25. Your entire generation is an embarrassment and makes me worry for the future. And I say this as a 34 year old dad with 2 kids.

>>20350011
why are you here

>>20350016
My sole reason to visit 4chan is to make disparaging comments about you and your generation.

>>20350025
go feed your kids bro

>21 yo
Fiction
>WoT, ASoIaF, Dune, Discworld, Flashman
Non-fiction
>Economic theory, Demographics, Technical manuals and theory(work related), gardening and travel
Classics
>Chinese 100 schools of thought, Japanese from Edo to early Showa period, Greco-Roman mostly Presocratics, Parapetetics and Stoics, Early Christian/Hellenic Judaism(Only Josephus so far)/Sufi Muslim(Ibn Arabi so far), Yankee Transendentalists
>>20346067
We never had a chance desu, most of us were the young children left unsupervised on the internet while Millenials were older kids/early teens and had already developed a mostly complete personality while we didn't, Zoomer dopamine receptors are irreversibly damaged and I was talking about this on /out/ a little while ago but basically Zoomer "culture" is a neoliberal hellscape where being an antisocial hedonist is the highest virtue, fame and status are the highest goals sought through any debasement necessary, all driven to consoom. So no attention spans plus that environment means that reading is an aesthetic to be worn on social media then discarded in favour of the next. The alternatives are the Jordan Petersonian/Joe Roganian crowd of self improovers who read because their prophets tell them to and thus their new identity demands it, a lesser evil to be sure, or the kind of weirdo /lit/ attracts, the Moldbugs, the Infinte Jest types or me and >>20346384.
>>20348389
No Zoomers are fucking vile it's just not for juvenoia reasons
>>20350011
>People on /lit/ are raising children
There's no fucking hope is there?

>>20345683
I am a zoomer. I mainly read older classics and light/web novels. (Just finished stoner want to start hard times next) I was reading about Kierkegaard though and he sounds interesting, so I might start reading some philosophy, but I feel like I shouldn't start with newer stuff so I haven't actually started that yet.

>>20345897
>I never here zoomers talk about ccru.
because it's boomer woke bullshit that literally has zero value

im 20 r8 my reading list

>>20345683
TikTok comments, Instagram posts, DMs. Nothing else, really.

>>20347524
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>20345683
I'm currently reading, except for the "suggested" university literature:
-the Bible
-a book by a freemason on the rites of the freemasonry and how they were influenced by ancient greek mysteric cults
-a book by a dominican monk (that later on ended up being condemned to the stake for heresy) on divination and when it's not heretical.
t. 20 years old

>>20350250
soyy/10

>>20350011
>boomer seethe
delicious

>>20349618
that is wavy, not curly and woolly, like pube nigger hair, you stupid nigger ape.

>>20350296
why is it onions :(?

>>20350250
>Tiqqun
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>20346701
Thank you for appreciating it.

>>20350323
not much based, too much fiction

>>20350346
i have zoombrain so its difficult for me to focus on nonfiction or philosophy

Zoomers read more than the boomers on this board since they've been on this website less than the latter. Less brain damage.

>>20350250
Of the books there, only Romance of the Three Kingdoms is good.

>>20345683
22 here
Reading the Passion Artist by Hawkes atm. He's prolly my fave writer no cap, alongside Mishima, Krzhizhanovsky, Walser, and Solstad. Otherwise I'm looking forward to reading a bit on the Kyoto school in the coming weeks, and reading up on agential realism, cuz at least on the surface that seems compelling. My fave philosophers are Nietzsche, Deleuze, Stengers, Han.
>>20345897
Mark Fisher is v. popular in online lefty circles, so if you at all frequent those circles you'll inevitably clash w. CCRU that way at least.
>>20346067
I don't care about "literacy", and whether fellow zoomers read books, personally. Zoomers are good at accessing and finding information, and so as far as theory is concerned, folks may as well just watch video essays, no? Saves time. + There are free lectures on youtube etc, which is huge too. But a lot of zoomers do read, though I think we might be reading less fiction. As others have said, our attention spans are very fucked, so reading for a long time is just difficult, even is for me, even though I don't really use any social media meself.

The disappearance of bookstores and algorithmic book recommendations are gonna end up creating more niche subgenres and stuff, which I think could be cool, hopefully we'll get some cool avant-gardes.
>>20350191
Just start with whatever seems interesting honestly. If you start w. a known/dusty philosopher you can probably find free uni lectures on them on youtube to give you a brief idea before diving in. Philosophy's too big for you to start with the beginning anyway.
>>20350250
Capitalist realism and ecology of freedom are nice, if you end up wanting something more comprehensive than capitalist realism though, read archeologies of the future by Jameson. It's dense, but it is very cool. Especially if you like scifi.

>>20350615
>Zoomers are good at accessing and finding information
Looking something up on Wikipedia barely qualifies as "finding information".

>>20350615
Browsing twitter 24/7 is not accessing and finding information

>>20350386
Does reading shitty fanfiction for years count? If yes then I have probably read 10 millions of words, otherwise I probably read *a* book once a year (Don Quixote has been a lot of fun and I need to thank my best friend for recommending it)

The same as everyone exposed to today's market and media. Give or take some inner circle trends.

>>20349669
lmfao

>>20350751
>>20350759

Yeah it's kind of adorable considering they have no idea what browsing the web was like back in the '90-00's. I'd bet most have never even used more than one search engine in their entire lives and for most of them it's just been Google.

I FUCKING HATE ZOOMERS, THANK GOD THERE IS A THREAD WHERE THIS IS AT LEAST SLIGHTLY RELEVANT

ANTISOCIAL YET OVERSOCIALIZED LITTLE WEIRDOS, STUPID AS FUCK FEMINIZED EFFETE PREENING FLUORIDE STARE LANKLET TWINK PIECES OF SHIT

EVERYTHING WAS SO BAD UP TO THIS POINT I THOUGHT IT COULDN'T GET SO MUCH WORSE SO QUICKLY BUT ZOOMERS ARE LIKE EATING A PIECE OF SHIT AFTER YOU'VE BEEN EATING FLAVORLESS GRUEL, AT LEAST GRUEL IS TECHNICALLY FOOD

I SWEAR THESE PIECES OF SHIT ARE SURROUNDED BY AN ACTUAL AURA OF SUBHUMANITY THAT CAUSES A TANGIBLE SENSATION OF UNCANNY VALLEY NAUSEA, SOULLESS GLASSY EYED HEDONISTIC FREAKS

>all these zoomers itt listing the milestones of their "development" like my teenage girlfriend lists how she got into "french poetry" (she's not "into" anything, much less french poetry)

Entire generation of temporarily embarrassed travel bloggers

>>20350615
why do you think we're going to get any interesting avant garde movements if everyone agrees zoomers can barely read at all?

>>20352337
i imagine "SURROUNDED BY AN ACTUAL AURA OF SUBHUMANITY THAT CAUSES A TANGIBLE SENSATION OF UNCANNY VALLEY NAUSEA, SOULLESS GLASSY EYED HEDONISTIC FREAKS" is how we must come off to non zoomers.

>>20352404
my hedonism knows no bounds. I smoke weed in the middle of the day even though I can feel it killing my empathy, intelligence, and attractiveness. Im running out after today so Ill at least have a few days of feeling like a normal human and can hang with my friends before I inevitably buy more.
Some people can handle weed addiction, it makes me too stupid

>>20352359
Unironically what did he mean by this.
The Boomer mind truly is a mystery

>>20352359
I love how they don't even notice how their posts betray their superficiality. They focus on names much like yuppies focused on watches or women on brands, and list off these supposedly famous and profound authors without showing even the slightest bit of understanding towards them. Their posts encompass the symbol as a replacement for any inner thought and personality. I'm amazed after just one brief generation we're fucking back to vapid post-modernity.

>>20352337
>>EVERYTHING WAS SO BAD UP TO THIS POINT I THOUGHT IT COULDN'T GET SO MUCH WORSE SO QUICKLY BUT ZOOMERS ARE LIKE EATING A PIECE OF SHIT AFTER YOU'VE
BEEN EATING FLAVORLESS GRUEL, AT LEAST GRUEL IS TECHNICALLY FOOD
>Food analogy
>>20352450
The Zoomer has no identity, only a corporate concocted glamour, a mask to the world to identify themselves in the sea of the self same vanity, the NPC meme is more than true among Zoomers, it's the whole ethos, to have actual ideas, critical thinking and interests beyond a hedonic consumption of basic pleasure is to be the freak, the outcast, the danger.
t. Zoomee

>>20345683
Fantasy and nonfiction Stephen crane rocks

>>20352337
>TANGIBLE SENSATION OF UNCANNY VALLEY NAUSEA
you've put into words what I only had a vague idea of

>>20345829
legitimately no hope of ever having an original thought

>>20352529
i think the problem is that people used to be like this in their teens, and then at least some of them would grow out of it and stop being so much about the "image" they're presenting

something about zoomers is really strange, it's like they can maintain adolescent surface interest in things into adulthood, and even worse than that they create pseudo-adult forms of what are really adolescent ways of seeing and being in the world

>>20352542
pioneered by gen-x

>>20352383
Well, I never said I agreed with that, I just said I don't care either way, because I don't think reading books is a meaningful baseline to measure a generation's general intellect against in the digital age. I'm sure it's true that Anglos and American yunguns don't read a lot, but yall are also the heartland of Neoliberalism, so I'm not expecting much from that hellscape, apart from cultural decay. re: avant garde, it's not that we can't read at all, it's that we can't read for a long time, or struggle a lot with it. So I think we'll end up with shorter chapters of books for example, and paragraphs being shorter too. Like how songs have been getting shorter, though that's moreso a response to being paid per stream. Besides all that, it's also not as though all millennials are reading gravity's rainbow and discussing McElroy in depth. The amount of people who read literature in the population has always been low, in our day and age we just have access to capeshit films and vidya instead of shitty genre pulp books. It's not like literature's gonna die, but the new stuff that'll be written will change form, is all I'm predicting, and I'm excited to see what that form will be.

>>20352542

It's because their entire self-identity revolves around how others perceive them. This has always been an issue but social media cranked it up into overdrive and they're the first generation to know no world without it.

>>20352602
Isn't that just the experience of women? Are zoomers metaphysically women?

>>20352604

I mean I don't know if I'd go that far but they're undoubtedly one of, if not the, most feminized generation in history.

>>20352313
Everybody likes to think they're special and the same time feel like they belong somewhere. The need for identity is a bitch.

I finished Infinite Jest yesterday. My only classics I’ve gotten through so far are catcher in the rye and anna karenina. Oh and the sailor who fell from etc etc

Stop looking at yourself in the mirror and go look at a bird you narcissistic fucks.

>>20352529
>>20352542
>more goal post shifting
>"it's not we that are vapid and devoid of novelty, it's THEM!"
very original, guys

>>20345915
>(D) A ton of philosophy and classics, but not for any actual reason, rather, just for the status that comes with being "well read" on certain basket weaving forums and Twitter.
Isnt this just what /lit/ does?

>>20345750
Stfu stupid nigger

>>20345683
I'm reading through 'On War' right now; thanks for asking OP.
>attention grabbing image.

Excluding short stories, my last five reads were Voss, Atonement, A Single Man, To the Lighthouse, and The Middle Parts of Fortune. Would highly recommend The Middle Parts of Fortune to anyone interested in reading about the experiences of soldiers in WW1.

Honor Levy

>>20352882
/lit/'s full of Zoomers who jumped into reading classics because of Pewdiepie and the /fitlit/ meme.
Give 'em a few more years and they'll all go back to playing stupid video games and roleplaying as sissyfaggots on Discord.

>>20345683
>Brother, 18
Mainly reads manga, has been getting into "great novels" like Crime and Punishment recently. Reads for the characters and will tell me he likes something because he relates to them and the themes of the work.
>Brother, 16
Doesn't read. Watched niggers on youtube, tiktok and screams like a nigger while playing video games. Not so much post-literate as a product of the absolute niggerisation of society.

It's pretty grim senpai fr fr allow it.

>>20345829
>Answers the question
>"Reeeee, et cetera"

>>20352634
And yours is the second most

>>20345750
>>20352883
damn i'm starting to think "zoomers" are just a fairy tail made up by nazis to try to control the whites and the blacks and maintain segregated populations.

I'm a zoomer who reads Zola and a lot of other 19th French lit.

>>20345683
Manga at best.

>>20345829
Did you read all that by yourself? Or did /lit/ influence your reading habit?

>>20352332
My dad taught me how to use TOR search engines and Duckduckgo. I used to use Bing for porn too.

18 year old zoomer here, here are my latest books read this 2022:

>The Odyssey
>The Iliad
>Lolita(reread)
>Tolstoy Short Stories
>A confederacy of dunces
>Demons.

I started reading last year and TBK and Anna Karenina are my first and favorite books

>>20353764
Oh and some of Poe's short stories as well, of which my favorite is 'The Premature Burial'.

>>20345750
Zoom zoom zoomer here to fact check your statement
Ur lieing

>>20345683
How to grow broccoli non your head?

1997 here - idk what generation I fall under so I might not even be a zoomer

currently reading The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner

last few reads were:
Wise Blood, Flannery O'Connor
The Myth of Sisyphus, Albert Camus
Wuthering Heights, Emily Brontë
A Very Short Introduction: Sociology
Hurricane Season, Fernanda Melchor

I don't really come here to contribute/discuss anymore; I mostly just lurk and take note of recommendations. I'm working my way through my backlog and whatever book I decide to start reading is determined by my mood at the time. I don't really have a desire to methodically work my way through the /lit/ top 100 or whatever but that being said I am open to reading the fiction classics—just at my own pace

>>20346470
>Medieval Philosophy
who fucking cares lmao
fucking loser

tiktok captions

>>20345683
Euripides's Hippolytus

>>20345829
You're on the right path and the people attacking you are literally just feeling inferior because they're almost 30 and haven't read most of that

What zoomers wear nowadays? I am writing novel where character so I need it and also some brands that are in fashion now. Ultratight skin pants, those funny hairs what else? Are snapback still cool?

>>20345683
self help

>>20353764
>>20353776
good shit, nigger

I remember loving Henry Miller when I was horny 16 year old zoomed. Tropic of Capricorn had pussy drawing or something like that on cover and I was kinda embarrassed borrowing it from public library lol. Librarian was one of the hottest women I ever met, all classy tall nice voice, I was so into her platonically until like late high school

>>20345683
I mostly read history. I know what I like already so I mostly read the shit from uni presses.

98 here (Zillennial)
Read a lot of libertarian stuff when I was 15
Got majorly into Ayn Rand.
Then got into the Alt-Right.
I basically read blogs now.
I've read like a thousand books until now.
I'll read the occasional book (~60 a year?) when it interests me but even if I do try and start a book a day I'll often just read a review first (skim it, more like) and then drop the book after reading the first chapter and the chapter in the middle.
I'm not strictly /lit/, I'm very /sci/ as well, so ain't got time for pseud/handwavy shit but I do like reading Arrows and Epigrams from Twilight of the Idols.
My kindle broke like six months ago so that's made a huge dent in what I read, otherwise I was gonna start Story of Civilization by Will & Ariel Durant.
I've read *some* greek books, mostly Aristotle. Haven't ventured much into literature except the really good ones, otherwise I read Science Fiction.
Too many books in my to-read list tbqh
I average like 200 pages (~600k) a day so I'm not gonna give excuses.

1998 Jan here.
Pic related is what I read in 2021.
This year I'm reading more Nietzsche, Beckett and Emerson. Also reading Agamben and recently finished The Coming Insurrection by The Invisible Committee. Recommendations for similar works are welcome.

>>20354877
That should be 60k. Whatever.
>>20345750
>>20345915
This is unironically true.
>>20346067
It's dead, bury it. I don't even know how the infrastructure is going to stay up, and the kids born post 2010 are even worse. They're seriously so fucking retarded and spoilt, and everything they do is engineered to dope them with unhealthy hormones.

>>20345683
I teach Zoomers, a handful are intelligent and I have taught some 8th graders who can enjoy Homer and Virgil.

Many, on the other hand, literally don't know who shakespeare is and cannot, if they tried their hardest, write a grammatically correct sentence

>>20345829
Nigga go read something they sell at gas stations before you meme yourself into hating reading

>>20345683
they don't

Harry Potter fanfiction

>>20346116
I think you're seriously discounting the profound effect changing technology has on the way people relate to the world. Gen X grew up on television and disposable pop culture. Zoomers have never existed without the internet, something that has become so important to humans that access to it is considered by the UN to be a human right. Generational theory is only bullshit when technology moves at a snail's pace, and we're in a F1 car at this point. Zoom zoom indeed

>>20345829
Brilliant troll post

>>20349618
Damn the Romans had perms too?

Born in 2000- studying Eng lit at college and lately been deep in the Russian classics and American modernism. I wouldn't worry about the serious truths being forgotten. However, I am a major outlier. I recommend downloading N Katherine Hayle's "Postprint" off libgen. The section on "The New Illiteracy" really resonates with my observation of young people. They're not stupid- honestly, the opposite. Being raised on the web endows most with a good bullshit meter and exposes them to information and perspective that no prior generation could have. The major issue is that extended periods of hyperattention lead to asemiosis, or lack of ability to read and process signs. If you can't think deep, you can't think well. Ideas can't formulate as completely, behavior is less mindful, and a result, feelings of anxiety and isolation emerge. Literature, which requires deep attention, may be our best non-physical cure for the mental health crisis. IMO.

>>20352602
This kinda nails it. Sometimes I wonder if zoomies would even do things if they couldn't post about it on social media because "what's the point?"

>>20345714
fpbp, sadly...

>>20353764
AK is the greatest novel ever written it's all downhill from here anon I'm sorry

>>20345719
Otelo be a real one ong ngl

>>20355419
I think that's a general narcissism imbibed by social media, not necessarily unique to zoomers. However, they've been brought up entirely on such self-worship and escaping it is pretty difficult with the abundance of technology.

>my sole existence makes others seethe
based

>>20355144
I just read some DFW essay mentioning how even though he teaches college level lit, with every new class he threw out the syllabus after the first round of papers came in and did a 3 week crash course in grammar because even in 2001 we were shit at composition. Texting is probably making the whole situation worse though, I find it difficult to figure out what the younger people are trying to say in work emails sometimes because their grammar is so bad

>>20353446
Are they cute?

>>20355406
I find myself constantly battling what might be asemiosis. But it feels slightly different, it's more like a inability of deep thought, rather than simply not understanding symbols and their meaning, when they occur in philosophy.

Or I might just have ADHD, which is also quite common nowadays.

>>20345683
On New Years' Eve I fucked a dude who looked almost exactly like that

>>20355539
why would you share this with us?

>>20355547
Why not

>>20355555
because no one cares
also checkd

>>20355555
>quint of quints

Hegel.

>>20355572
Based. If only.

'01 fag here, started to get into serious literature in highschool when I read Gabriel García Marquez and I have met fellow zoomers who are interested and well versed in the canon. I don't know why anons here are so obsessed about us, I think the broccoli-head "no cap" zoomer stereotype only really applies to:
-Americans
-the ones born after '03
Further proof that 4chan can only perceive the world through memes. Sad!

>>20345729
Can’t speak for American Zooms but in Canada they’re more into books than Millennials were.

YA naturally, but a surprising number seem to be into the classics.
There’s also a bit of a snob thing in which kids read the Greek myths and talk trash about Percy Jackson lol.

According to a study, compared to Millennials they’re much less likely to engage in ‘sexting’, and more ambitious career-wise, and more to plan their futures and likely to save money for future use.

Gives me faith in the future.

>>20345683
>21
You're all faggots with shit taste who read for no other reason than to show off how enlightened you are, fucken typing out lists of books you probably got from some other faggot.
>uhuuwuwhaawaushawha what do you read that makes you so enlightened
Piss off I'm not telling you what I read you fucking retards.
You're all pretending to read and none of you can prove me wrong
.t reading for longer than I can remember

>>20355648
Facts. Graduated high school in 2018, and at that point nobody used TikTok- except some kids into dance/music. It was a novelty at the time, and nobody had that haircut. If they did we probably would've all thought they were a lil bitch

>>20355486
I think this is important to recognize. The ability to write well has almost always been rare. Go to a primary source library and read college essays from pre-2000 and you'll see that people have basically always been pseudo-literate.

I teach in a high school and I can tell that many zoomers are special. Recently I saw one of these squad streams that are so popular in Twitch, where several people streams at the same time. Well turns that there is an open gathering where a dozen of zoomers are roleplaying, usually two at a time, two philosophers in a somehow dialectical exchange. This sunday for example I had the opportunity of listening two of them, one larping as Maimon and the other as Schelling, with a great deal of excitation and depth. Other time I recall seeing one dude of around 16 or 17, with an absolute dominion of zizek works, imitating him, spits and mannerisms included, discussing with some more poorly imitated Laclau.

>>20345683
Zoomer here, most people i know do not read at all, one read some of 12 rules for life by jordan peterson but didn't finish the book.
Out of my circle of close friends i'm the only one who consistently reads

>>20355648
Are you really expecting nuanced opinions from 4chan of all places? Anybody who has interacted with zoomers in any significant way knows that most of the shit anons are spewing here is false.

Zoomers prefer to get their info and entertainment in video form, and their attention spans are shorter, so they don't read books. All the 20 year olds ITT posting their reading lists are narcissists for whom reading is a personality trait they want to project as part of their personal brand. Stop reading Spinoza in high school and go talk to some girls

>>20353670
commies have the dumbest conspiracy theories

>>20352359
The question was about what zoomers read and so you're getting zoomers posting about what they've read. Not sure what you wanted. Is it narcissism to answer the question? For me, it was Crime and Punishment; fr changed my life, no cap

>>20355773
The thing about video form is super true and I don't get it. They'll read paragraphs of text as long as there's a dancing tiktok person next to it and it boggles my mind. At that point it seems functionally the same as reading, but something about the text being "in" a tiktok video transforms it completely for them.

>>20355692
the fuck

22. I like reading fiction. mishima and cormac mccarthy are my favorite authors. currently reading 2666. after this I have the crying lot of 49 to start off with getting into that type of writing.

>>20346067
Can't really converse with anyone anymore. Every time I talk to someone IRL it feels like they're silently judging every individual movement on my face. If a conversation peters out I feel embarrassed for not having more to say, when the other person is just as guilty of this and yet simultaneously feels nothing. Most talks with guys my age are pointless, they are lacking spirituality and somehow always want to argue about trivialities but never back up their arguments. Women are not future mothers, they are females and lack any intuition or knowledge of anything about anything. Nobody leaves the house and if they do it's for superfluous reasons. My cousin a year below me reads a lot and is objectively more intelligent than I am (all my younger relatives probably are) but he's just not there. No humor, no wit, nothing insightful to say. On the off-chance you meet a witty zoomer you can guarantee they will have mental issues or severe complexes or even disgusting fetishes, there are no exceptions to this rule because as previously mentioned zoomers lack faith. Zoomers are sexually repressed but they have the highest rates of turning into furries, transgenders, and general deviants. I know too many people who smoke too much weed and have too much casual sex and if I so much as hint at wanting them to take better care of themselves they have a bitch fit about it. You can't have any code of honor or enjoy anything sincerely as a zoomer or else you're labeled an autistic incel. This is despite the fact that most zoomers' days (even my own) generally revolve around staring at a blue-light monitor for upwards of 12 hours at a time without significant breaks either for physical activity or just general introspection. My biggest wake-up call in life was realizing that my supposedly "shut-in" behavior was actually normal, and in fact I'm basically as much of a normalfag as every other zoomer in terms of how I spend my free time. So when I talk to a zoomer and my immediate reaction is "wow how fucking empty is this kid" I'm now more confused than I used to be. It's not like with millennials, where rebellion turned into identity and sincerity gave way to irony. Zoomers all have moments of clarity and generally have desires which depend on self-actualization. The problem is they have no hope in even the most minute of interactions, hence why survivalist rhetoric ("I made it through high school! I surpassed expectations in my job interview! I came out unscathed from the phone call!") all litter their speech.

True story, I have a 15 year old cousin and I've never heard her speak. She was hopped up on so many medications from a young age that she became both mute and anorexic. In a sense I'm envious of her, she has a legitimate reason to be so quiet and disaffected, even if it is largely artificially imposed upon her from an abusive mother. The fact that I know people like her who are just as disillusioned and stationary is appalling.

>>20355967
there is girl on pornhub that reads Kropotkin while being naked
I consumed few chapters that way, also helps she has nice tits

>>20347826
I love that book and the chaos is what I enjoy

>>20356235
What do you expect?
No friends, no gf, no job, no hope for the future, how do you expect zoomers to care about anything when there’s nothing to look forward to?

>>20353670
you will never be a woman

>>20355555
Quints demand pics, faggot.

>>20355654
>>20345915

>>20356365
Reminder: This comic is a commentary on advertising, and not meant to be about some metaphysical "gotcha." In general, the idea of oneness is a massive cope.

>>20356235
>This is despite the fact that most zoomers' days (even my own) generally revolve around staring at a blue-light monitor for upwards of 12 hours at a time without significant breaks either for physical activity or just general introspection. My biggest wake-up call in life was realizing that my supposedly "shut-in" behavior was actually normal, and in fact I'm basically as much of a normalfag as every other zoomer in terms of how I spend my free time.
Have you tried doing anything about it? I made many attempts in the past, but nothing ever worked out. I just can't get excited about anything anymore.

>>20356407
I clean the house frequently and cook and play with my dogs. It's at the point where I have to inform my own parents they're spending too much time on the PC. This isn't some technology issue, it starts with the prior generations relying on coddling technology.

I'm reading Guenon. Just finished Chretien's Perceval. Will probably read the Ramayana next

>>20346067
I like to differentiate between those who had a childhood before smartphones and those who didn't. It's easier for me to feel closer to millenials than it is for me connect with core-late gen z

>>20356423
>It's at the point where I have to inform my own parents they're spending too much time on the PC. This isn't some technology issue, it starts with the prior generations relying on coddling technology.
Both of my parents are guilty of this. My mom fell for the Facebook propaganda. I had to explain to her why her inappropriate posts could affect my siblings and I. The other day I caught my dad watching tik toks. He's in his mid 60s. I wish my parents were more mature.

>>20356481
i hate how my parents so easily fall for obvious anti-putin propaganda. Especially mother, its like she believes anything she reads on web

>Zoomers vs. Millenials bullshit
Zoomers are just gayer millenials.

>>20356502
A good chunk of that % is just retarded Women saying they are gay (they're not, either BI at best and usually have some bad history - many of the ones I followed up from High School started dating guys in their 20s)
Don't get me wrong my Generation is still completely fucked and probably has a high faggotry %, but I don't think it is actually 20

>>20356489
My mom is actually pro-putin but only because she believes america 'sold' her country to russia after ww2. She thought immigrating here would lead to a better life but it hadn't, so she's just really spiteful towards america and joe biden.

>>20356331
>Actually this nihilistic
This is because of the constant barrage of social media that destroys attention spans and promotes empty emotions towards things happening now. The focus is always on the now or some doomed future or some step for progress, and combine that with corporate and political interests and the entire digital environment most surround themselves with either ends interest-centered or externally fuelled. There's not representation of people as physical beings in the world, and when it is present, it's warped by the environment. And I haven't even mentioned privacy, or lack of it.
Cutting or limiting "social" media is hugely important to living now, or raising a child in this environment. There may be social trauma from exclusion due to this, but it's better than the induced isolation otherwise brought on by the mirrors of mirrors that make up these places. Zoomers are typically raised interacting with these digital systems (I am one myself) and so may or may not see the problems inherent to them. Those that don't, you get this emptiness. Those that do, may not even be able to do anything about it, especially given the periods of lockdown that went by. I feel awful for anyone who had to be in high school during restrictions, because that must have been soul-stripping.
Personally, I struggled greatly with this, and still do, to an extent. There's an emptiness of self that may be partially related, with a mask on occasionally that is now part of my identity as necessary in some situations. But I also realized how inhuman most platforms are, and how limiting they can be, despite apparent freedom.
What is real is the effect this has had. What isn't real are these limitations, the effects are a reflection of zoomers growing up and convinced of people as being of the same interactions that happen online, when in fact this not the case at all. Online exposure does equal what is actually happening, even if it may appear to mirror it. It is pure expression, and only that, stripped of any material binding beyond communication. What is real may be more than material, but at the same time, it cannot be neglected, as it has been recently.
that was my tedtalk, thank you for listening.
>>20345683
Assuming you mean books, most zoomers don't read full books beyond the standard fiction/nonfiction, if that. Just whatever is generic and popular. A majority of consumption that is not book-related, but still literature, is typically small articles or partially involved another medium, like mentions in videos (threads online, forum discussions, etc. For those barely literate, there are voice-over videos all over, reading them out loud).

>>20356544
>that was my tedtalk, thank you for listening.
Sure, but cleaning your room doesn't fix that America is retracing all the steps of other late Republics and is in clear social collapse.
No wonder people are empty, if they want to have a future they are going to have to seize it with their own hands (for better or worse) and doing nothing means doom.

I'm a zoomer and I read:
>The Bible and the I Ching daily
>Math textbooks for uni
>Programming books for research and for fun
>Thinking of starting to get into philosophy and psychology, I'm interested in Leibniz and Carl Jung

>>20355651
Canadian here. Zoomers are gay mutts who just watch woke Nerflix bullshit and read YA.

>>20346122
that only works on normies

>>20350191
im also a zoomer and i really enjoy kierkegaard. you should start with either or imo. the first part is tough to get through but it will probably help you get used to his writing style

>>20347796
>The Witcher books
shit taste, real Elric

Zoomer (23) here, i mostly read history and politics, some fiction too. No one i know really reads.

>>20345683
The Fault in Our Stars
The Hate U Give
The Hunger Games
Cosmere
Normal People
On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous
Kafka on the Shore
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao
A Court of Thorns and Roses
Fifty Shades of Grey
The Broken Earth

>>20356377
>pseudointellectual drivel confusing the authors intended use with a restriction on how it can be used, misusing the word metaphysical, and ending with unrelated pure stupidity

>>20345683
my yaoi hentai

>>20356235
>My cousin a year below me reads a lot and is objectively more intelligent than I am (all my younger relatives probably are) but he's just not there. No humor, no wit, nothing insightful to say.
Maybe he just doesn't want to talk to you.
>On the off-chance you meet a witty zoomer you can guarantee they will have mental issues or severe complexes or even disgusting fetishes, there are no exceptions to this rule because as previously mentioned zoomers lack faith.
If by witty you mean funny, most zoomers are funny. If by witty you mean smart, it is generally in my experience the retards who are most affected by mental issues etc.

>>20345683
I'd have thought blood meridian, the iliad. as in those books would have appealed to me as a edgy 15yo

the dislike towards zoomers on this site is weird considering how fucking pathetic the millennial generation is. literally the disappointed father / single mother generation that pissed away valuable years of life on MMOs and masturbating to anime. everything wrong with modern life started with millennials. SJW pandering, cringey weeb culture, vidya and internet addicition, pop culture consoomerism, e-celeb faggotry and the list just goes on and on. 4chan is the biggest proof of that. i just feel nothing but utter disdain for everyone in my age group. it's so odd when i see millennials trying to stick up for each other and act like we aren't the loser generation.

>>20345683
I just read military Sci-fi. I was influenced by my father, don't know if it's normal between zoomers.

>>20355651
I don’t believe you. Zoomers will be the doom of us all.

>>20357677
Self-hating Millennials are weird to me; and weirder, yet, is the lengths they go to with their self-hatred. Example: they'll literally finagle with the years of their generation just to exclude younger parts of it.

>>20357787
why wouldn't i dislike my generation? everywhere i go i just see manbabies. here and in real life. bing bing wahoo time.

>>20357797
>everywhere i go i just see manbabies
How is this different from gen x and boomers?

>>20357803
it isn't different. why are you moving the goalpost?

>>20357807
You're entire argument is built on the supposed contrast between millennials and preceding generations. How are those people any different from the way millennials turned out? They're all just retarded and petty as we are.You could easily say that they're perverse coddling made millennials turn out the way they did.

Most zoomers don't even know what they want from life yet, what the hell do you strive for in a world as confusing as ours today? we have no god, no patriotism, and any alternatives are either wackadoo magic shit or literally latching yourself to (trendy political movement here)

>>20357677
It's because millennials are faggots but at least they are aware of it. Zoomers have words for things like being a faggot but they are such faggots that they can't even understand it. They are lacking part of the brain or something. They take autism back to its original meaning, aut-ism, self-involvedness and inability to see anything that hasn't first been processed through their autistic childish self.

The only way to save a zoomer is probably to educate them to the point that they feel like a citizen of another century, but the problem with this is that they will inevitably turn it into a fashion statement so you really have to beat them to within an inch of their life and force them to do it to the point that it's not fun anymore. Don't let them post online about it, don't let them go around telling people they're really into Montaigne as a 17 year old. If they say that shit, beat them, then force them to read Montaigne unabridged and tell them you'll kill them if they brag about it. Only such a radical authenticity detox can purge them of the temptation to reduce something as lovely as Montaigne to a status symbol on social media.

Of course, it goes without saying that if they use social media you execute them and start over with a new one.

>>20345829
there is hope for this generation yet.

>>20348666
holy based!
millennials are going to burn in hell.

>>20346022
do u cringe when you look in the mirror

>>20345683
I am an American zoomer (18 y/o), many people in my grade don't read and take pride in their media illiteracy ("the curtain was just blue, symbolism isn't real", etc.). My friends are generally well read. Here are books they've read outside of school for pleasure, and which I know they have read because I've discussed them with them.
Friend #1:
Blood Meridian, Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea, Sun and Steel, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, 12 Rules For Life, A Little Life, some biography of Mishima I don't know the name of.
Friend #2:
War and Peace, Slaughter House Five, All Quiet on the Western Front, Lolita, a shit ton of pulp detective novels, lots of HP Lovecraft.
Friend #3:
American Psycho, half of Don Quixote, Metamorphosis, Catch-22, Fountainhead (but only because it was a gift from his dad).
Friend #4:
Lots of Oe, lots of Mishima, lots of Murakami, and Rupi Kaur for some reason.
Friend #5 (woman):
The Little Prince, The Alchemist, Dune.
Friend #6 (woman):
Dante's Inferno, The Picture of Dorian Gray, Pickman's Model, The Martian Chronicles.
Generally popular "classic" books among zoomers include Animal Farm, 1984, Pride and Prejudice, The Catcher in the Rye, Clockwork Orange, and similar books. JRR Tolkien has his fanatics, so does sci fi (Dan Simmons, Phillip K. Dick, etc.) I don't know much about what women read, I know Jane Austen is popular and the Song of Achilles really took off.
The future is not so grim. Many people I talk to value books and plan not to give their children technology until they are older, even particularly liberal or online people.

26 y/old so I barely qualify as zoomer.
but I live in 3rd world Europe and only have access to these books in PDF format. until the age of 16, I basically did not read anything because school is designed to make you stupid and my household didn't have any books either.

>>20357803
Millennials are definitely worse in this regard compared to boomers and gen X. Boomers were just selfish pricks and Gen X were nihilists at 40. Millennials use the term "adulting" at 40.

>>20345683
Zoom girls exclusively read fanfiction

>>20345683
zoomer here, I like Houellebecq because I relate to his characters

>>20345683
4chan

>>20357007
>Maho
Faggot.
>Leibniz
Why? A very random philosopher to pick out.

>>20345829
>>20347761
>>20347847
>>20347861
>>20350141
Based zooomers.

Zoomer here. Also here’s my list:

- Introduction to Philosophy by Russ Wayne;
- The Genealogy of Morality by Nietzsche;
- Sun and Steel by Mishima;
- Confessions of A Mask by Mishima;
- Ligotti’s Short Stories;
- The Dark Enlightenment by Nick Land.

>>20350250
A Scanner Darkly is my favourite book, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

I read this recently

sneed

>>20346002
I thought this haircut was just a meme until my nephew got it. I couldn't control my laughter.

>>20359310
>t. argie tranny

>>20345683
i read tolkien and murakami mainly

>>20358010
>school is designed to make you stupid
>mein kampf is favorite book
lol

>>20345683
I am 21, and I exclusively read Marx, Sorel, Mussolini, and Gentile. Exclusively and only them., and the people they critiqued as well as their social circles.

>>20345829
>I'm 21 now.
we could tell

>>20361791
>reading fashoid authors

Golden Ass

>>20361820
why wouldn't I read the works of a statesman who ran a country like Italy for 17 years in relative stability in peace until he got involved in a war he was reluctant in participating in.

Or Gentile who was quite possibly the greatest philosopher of his century?

>>20361820
>not being a fascist in 2022

>>20345683
Zoomer go zoom zoom zoomies

>>20361889
Im looking for a place to start reading Nitchzsche or Greek philosophy (in order to start reading nitchzsche) can anybody help?

>>20361889
As man thinketh, outliers.

>>20361879
everyone is a fascist in 2022, but no one is THE fascist. there is nothing resembling 1920s fascism today.

>>20345683
Math textbooks
t. /sci/ tourist

>>20357779
>I go to a joyless hurtbox cesspit for fun and see cherrypicked shitty footage of zoomers online
>therefore zoomers bad

>>20361780
A profound criticism you've fielded there

>>20345829
>guy lists the books he's read
>10-15 different people attacking him
Not sure what happened to this board

>>20350025
Same

>>20358845
Careful with the Land, that stuff's cognitohazardous.

>>20355440
best translation?

>>20345829
Fuck you cunt

>>20355555
The Holy Fag, blessed be his quints

there's an arab kid in my neighborhood with that exact haircut i have to stifle a smile whenever i see him, but to be fair a few years back some lil shit started grinning when i was walking down the street holding a monster energy like bro i'm not that old damn tho i do be sippin tho

>>20355444
cap

I am a zoomer, I have read Hesiod, Joyce, Kerouac, and McCarthy with dedication. My favorite piece of literature, if it counts, is Miller's play Death of a Salesman, which speaks to my most feared psychological manifestations in our contemporary society. My favorite philosophical work would have to be The Myth of Sisyphus.
Here are my feet by the way. I keep them moisturized for my girlfriend

>>20345683
Zoomers are illiterate.

>>20345683
16 yo cousin is reading Camus

>>20356365
midwit's favorite comic
>>20345683
new trashy novels or recently release garbage autobiographies

>>20355419
do you have any relatives that use facebook? millennials and especially gen-xers are as guilty, if not worse than zoomers when it comes to posting everything. of course i'm only exposed to about three networks of people when i go on facebook, but all of the gen-xers i know post photos of their meals or that they're at places (gyms, bars, stores, etc). we're all fucked, zoomers are just the first ones to grow up with it

>>20356407
not op but i've read ellul, the meme anti-tech books (the shallows, digital minimalism, etc), books on the neuroscience of addiction, then realized there's actually no intellectualizing myself out of it. i have to use or not use. i've gone months with absolutely minimal use and those were some of the best months of my life. i was able to find beauty and excitement in so many things that i would have never taken notice of before. the internet and phones are just so stimulating and dynamic that everyday reality becomes static. i have to think that i use less than normies do but things won't be right until i can get back to where i was, where there weren't two realities running, where i had so much focus. it's so fucking stupid that i'm envious of prior generations for being able to live a day without constantly fiending for information. there's hope, we really just have to believe that endlessly consuming data online isn't worth sacrificing the sensuality of everyday experience. good luck anon

>>20345683
Junji ito

>>20362290
Cute feet.

Post tummy.

>>20345729
English zoomer here. Everyone on my campus is always reading or carrying a book around. Granted, not an American zoomer, but our nations are quite similar.

>>20345683
Myth of the 20th century