/lit/ - Literature

>>20339925
women do this

Imagine annotating a fucking Stephen King book.

>>20339925
I want to buy used books with previous owner's inscriptions. I like it for some reason especially when the book was a gift and it mentions names.

>>20339925
>>20339928
>>20339935
More proof that lit doesn't read

>>20339959
Elaborate, how writing on a book is a good practice? I read a lot and I don't write on books, I write on a notebook and to text files

>>20339959
i can read better than any woman that does retarded scribbling on books

>>20339925
Literary soul

>>20339925
it helps me to understand it

>>20339925
shakespeare did it

>>20339986
and also to find the meaning of some obscure words

it's taught to you in school

and basically op is a fool for not doing it

>>20339992
>obscure words
>whetstone

>>20339935

>>20339986
Why are you reading Horace in English lmao?
Can someone explain the point of reading translated poetry? Surely you're only going to get a fraction of the poems total meaning?

>>20340038
>Surely you're only going to get a fraction of the poems total meaning?
No.

>>20340038
>If you can't extract every single drop of context and meaning from the text it's pointless to read it
I don't even read English works like this so I don't see why it would bother me.

>>20340038
English is a superior language

>>20340038
because I don't know greek

>>20340090
anon...

>>20339937
I'm reading a book where the previous owner made a mark in the margin every time they needed to look up a word in a line and it appears we have almost the same vocabulary. It feels kinda nice

>>20339968
It's a lot easier to underline something that you think is important then to copy down the whole line on a computer.

>>20339973
Women don't read philosophy

>>20340053
>>20340060
>>20340067
>t. Latinlets
I can understand translated fiction but translated poetry is a crime. There is no effort to replicate meter. The literary illusions embedded within the poem are now buried even deeper. You can't pick up on the author's word play (in Latin this is especially important) or the particular grammatical constructions.
The hidden allusions and carefully set out structure is vandalised for the sake of a lazy monolingual pleb. You're not reading a poem, you're reading a mockery of a poem.

>>20339959
>to read a book you must deface it with pen
outside of making notes for an essay or report, scribbling all over a book like a child is not required to read

>>20339992
>>20340006

>>20340152
>>20340006
alright you fools now give me the meaning of wheatstone without looking it up.

>>20340173
Astonished at this.

>>20340178
where's the definition, cunt? Note that it's wheAtstone, with an A, and not whetstone as in >>20339992

>>20340173
is there no overlap here with /ck/ niggas?

>>20340173
did you have no interest in medieval weapons as a child/angsty teen? did you never learn how to cook?

>>20340194
>>20340198
I looked it up and I don't think wheatstone has anything to do with wheat or /ck/ at all. It's: "a bridge used to measure resistances."
I Also found:
>>20339986
>>20339992
>>20340003
in the archives (picrel.) I think we've been baited lads. The original was just an anon asking:
>Anybody else buy their college books used and have this shit all over it? BRB getting my classical oxfords from college out.

>>20340216
>>/lit/thread/20335300#p20335606

>>20339925
Agreed. It' subhuman. Use a notebook before defacing a perfectly fine book with your primitive apelike scratch marks that feign to pass as handwriting .

>>20340173

I do depending on why I'm reading the book in the first place. If I'm going to be writing a report/essay then I underline and label sections I find relevant. If I'm reading for pleasure then I'll only mark sections I want to revisit at a later point so I can move on and not get stuck in a thought loop

>>20340173
there is no wheatstone one can imagine to measure this count of seethe

>>20340216
a whetstone is definitely for sharpening blades and thats what was in the image, a wheatstone I'll admit idk the definition
we've been successfully baited anyway

>>20340106
it's worst to remember or use it so you're acting like a retard, bless

>>20339925
Notice that only Anglos tend to underline and circle words.

As a muslim we were taught to not abuse books, and there are strict rules for how we are to handle the Quran. In my mind writing on a book would be like writing on the Quran, its just wrong. Any christians/jews/hindus/buddhists have a similar experience?

If you’re not reading with a pen in hand then you’re not reading, period.

This goes especially for philosophy

Stick with watching tv or something if you don’t want to make the effort

>>20339959
>taking notes
nigga, why do you think god gave you this thing called memory? if you don't train it and just rely on writing it out without having to think shortly and search in your memory you'll always stay a brainlet.
harold bloom also said that memorzing is far superior to taking notes btw...

>>20340757
Because you’re all mindless drones

Abuse your first book, let it be the Quran, you cuckshit faggot

>>20340757
Many Protestant bibles are made to be scribbled all over. Anyone who does this and sticks with their studies will look back and cringe. Anything written in a bible can be written in a notebook. However I do write in plays.

>>20340106
since when easier=better? i dont underline because of respect for the author and the next reader: if they read a previously underlined, annoted or any other form of the reader's ideas printing, they will be unnecessarily influenced by it

>because of respect for the author and the next reader

>>20340757
no, christians write all over their bibles. we have the personal bibles of aristocrats and famous writers like shakespeare and they're filled with underlinings and annotations.

I use post it notes. Combined bookmark + note taking surface.

>>20340903
seems girly

>>20340850
I mean if the book is from a library then you shouldn't mark in it, if you bought it then go ahead and do whatever you want.

>>20340138
Don't care.

>>20340891
>we have the personal bibles of aristocrats and famous writers like shakespeare
I'm pretty sure we don't have Shakespeare's Bible.

>>20340903
Are they color coded to reflect how you FELT when you read the passage, anon?

>>20340924
I do, and you can have it for 400 thousand Australian dollarydoos or 60 USD

>>20340273
fucking savage

Writing in a book is a smoothbrain action.
If you want to take notes, do it in a separate notebook faggot.

>>20339925
If you have to underline "important parts", that implies that there are parts of the book that are unimportant, and you probably shouldn't be wasting your time reading it in the first place.

>>20340992
aye go on then

You are a complete victim. You are a complete slave.

>>20340803
>nigga, why do you think god gave you this thing called memory?
he also limited short-term memory to less than 10 items so sorry, you don't have the ability to remember books you think you have. you probably just happen to make so little use of what you read that you never have to face the many gaps in your recollections

The only time I mark up books is if I'm reading non-fiction and there's a mistake.

>>20340090
I'm not sure what that has to do with reading Horace, anon

>>20340093
>>20341550
well I also don't speak roman

>>20339925
When I am writing a paper and the book belongs to me, I'll often add lines in the margins to indicate core premises or conclusions. In a notebook, or in the back I'll write the page numbers and indicate how important they are. When writing an argument, it is good to find the specific premise the author used to reach their conclusion. I could do this all in a notebook, but it is likely that I'll be returning to the book more than a few times. There are less pieces to keep track of, and it's my book anyways.
This being said, I don't see how you can reliably annotate with text in the margins. If you come back to the book after some time, you might miss the point of your original comment. Better to write the full thought in a notebook than abbreviate.

oh, look, the 5th thread in 24 hrs about people marking up their books with over 50 comments

why do you people keep falling for these stupid bait threads?

>>20339925
yes i have never seen anything insightful written in the margins of books just midwit tier commentary

I subdivide Platonic dialogues, like Phaedo, into smaller sub-arguments made along the way. I just make a little line to signal a new "section" and a brief summary of the upcoming topic of discussion. Seems useful to me.

I have written in the same book for different reasons, like personal comments, and for that I am regretful.

Books are just a medium to transfer information. Unless it's a rare book with some financial worth to you shouldn't be caring too much about it.

But if you want to be an autistic faggy bibliophile go ahead. What happens is you will die and your family will sell your shit to second hand stores for peanuts. I've seen it happen all the time to book collectors hoarding their houses.

I write in my books because I use them practically for my own intellectual benefit. To learn and to seep in the information. It is my book and I'm not thinking of sharing it or think about a future of someone looking into it after me.

>>20339995
Using your pointer finger to read is also taught to you in school

What is wrong with having a conversation with the author?

>>20339925
You haven’t lived until you’ve experienced a scribbled library book that has passed numerous hands.

>>20339995
Even in school, you write only on passages that are printed out. They never encourage directly writing on the book because it destroys it

>>20342610
Imagine getting in an argument with scribbles on a book

>>20342620
we wrote all over our poetry anthologies

>>20342624
When you're bored in your classroom and can't talk to qts shittng on Jews is the next best thing.

>>20342624
It’s fantastic

>>20342610
typical theist behavior

>>20342598
false equivalences weren't taught at yours i suppose

>>20340891
>christians write all over their bibles
PROTESTANTS write all over their Bibles. Which is pretty much par for the course since their whole heresy is based on stomping on it.

I highlight a lot in pink because yellow fades and doesn't stand out when flipping pages. I don't write in books because I don't like trying to squeeze writing in to margins.

>>20339937
Especially if it is a girl's name that sounds hot.

Its my fucking library, ill mark them up how i please unless they are more than a hundred years old.

>>20341267
>make so little use of what you read that you never have to face the many gaps in your recollections
i only read for pleasure, so i never need to make use of what i've read. and you also don't remember mich, you have to look at your cute tiny little notes

>>20339925
Why? It’s a book? Nothing special.

>>20342610
Based shitposters arguing in the margins

>Nabokov employed a regular system for marking texts. Contrary to what he said in interviews and in his classroom, he marked books not only in gray lead pencil, but also in red and green pencil, as well as in ink. Scoring, underlining, circling, and marginal notations are extensive. His marginal shorthand includes: "x" (indicating error or something to be noted), "!", "?", combinations "!?", "NB" (note well), "cp" (compare), "Check," "DSP" ('up to here,' from the Russian 'do sikh por'). The marks are used systematically. Heavily notated volumes, such as the texts used to prepare his course lectures, show that when necessary Nabokov wrote in all the spaces available to him in a book. Notations appear on the insides of covers, the pages before the title page, on the title page, between sections of a text, as well as on the top, side, and bottom margins. On the inside cover of a book is often a notation of pages within the volume which carry comments or are otherwise of interest to him. (Parker, Stephen Jan. “Nabokov in the Margins: The Montreux Books.” Journal of Modern Literature 14, no. 1 (1987): 5–16)

I've been really conflicted over how to (and if I even should) mark up my books. I decided that, basically, any of my verbal thoughts or reactions or questions should go into a notebook, not into the margins of the book itself. Any lines or phrases I want to remember should be copied down into the notebook as well, instead of being underlined. I only write small things in the book itself; for example, a star next to a paragraph to mark it as containing something important; "cf" followed by an acronym and a page number to note a comparison to another text (I write out the full title and page of the text being referenced in the blank spot at the end of the chapter/section). I note any references by simply writing the name of the reference itself in the margin next to the paragraph in question. I also use "?" and "!" and "X" in the margins to note points of confusion or points where I disagree; these marks are easy to erase and less intrusive than writing out my full thoughts in the margins. I also note any differences in translations (for example, I've marked up some stories in the Hurley translations of Borges' stories and written where the di Giovanni translation differs significantly; I do this with most of my translated books). Basically I've made it where, if any person happens to buy the book after I've marked it up, all they'll find are some obscure references to other books and some weird marks (stars, question marks, etc) that can be easily erased. Any of my actual thoughts, reflections, questions or summaries go into a separate notebook.

>>20343186
when i said that i had catholics in mind

>>20344167
>Contrary to what he said in interviews and in his classroom,
why would he lie about that?