/lit/ - Literature

>watched Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind and other Miyazaki films as a kid
>grew up to become a climate change doomer

Any books where there's a POV of the average Joe undergoing a fantasy societal breakdown or ongoing Apocalypse?

>>20329473
I don't know about fantasy but for me The road is still my favorite post-apocalyptic story

Reminder that all good fantasy was already written. Any Sanderson, Cradle, self-published, webnovel stuff is garbage.

>>20329550
ok we get it, no need to spam every thread, you can leave now

>>20329551
Spam every thread? Its only my second. I am here to stay, not to spam, but to defend my position. Name any of your favorite fantasy book and I'll name one that is better.

>>20329550
Dune is definitely harder to get into than LOTR. Frank Herbert goes out of his way to not explain what the fuck is going on for hundreds of pages

>>20329553
I don't really care what you think anon, I'll keep enjoying what I'm reading

>>20329292
Villain isekai? Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System. Guy dies while rageposting about how the novel he was reading dropped all the interesting storylines, made everyone brainless, and turned into a haremette-of-the-week story. Guy isekais as the harem MC’s evil teacher, a character who gets brutally tortured and killed in the novel, and told that if he wants to improve the book he can fill in the plot holes and make everyone smarter himself. Guy does a great job because he was a genuine fan of the book, thinks the harem MC was badass, loves the cultivation setting, and fucking loves fantasy monster zoolology. Guy transmigrates as a cultivation sect sub-leader, but his powers aren’t unusual/OP for that world. It’s short for a Chinese webnovel (about 400k words). But because the harem MC collects waifus in the original novel due to lack of love and attention in his childhood, transmigrator guy’s efforts to be nice to the harem MC to avoid being tortured/killed accidentally turn the harem MC gay.

>>20329550
>book of the new sun is max harder to get into
lmao

>>20329453
I'm almost done reading Snow Crash and I just realized now that Zuck references it for his Meta thing. Which is kinda funny, given how much the book satirizes corporations (and the feds, those were some of my favorite parts).
Yes, I know. I'm a slowpoke.

>>20329550
In what universe is the Philip Pullman stuff harder to get into that The Hobbit?
Who made this?

>>20329550
The Dragonbone Chair should be S-tier, so comfy and soulful, and so much better than misanthropic grimdark trash like books by Bekker

>>20329586
I mean The Hobbit is a very short book compared to the whole Pullman trilogy (or whatever-ogy); I think books' lengths are taken into account here

>>20329550
Thanks for the list, haven't read much on there. Guess I'll start with Reverend Insanity

>>20329553
>Name any of your favorite fantasy book and I'll name one that is better.
Heh, you already lost.

>>20329568
>please dont post that image in these threads
>I dont care what you think
womanish

>>20329570
>Gay
I will now read your book

>>20329613
I'm on chapter 320
when does it get good?

>>20329616
not really about the image but the words accompanying it, no one cares for some faggots who keeps taunting people at every thread, this isn't kindergarten, grow the fuck up

>>20329620
>oh no, words
you'd find reddit a more suitable place, there you could downvote me

Why does sci-fi and fantasy get lumped together? Fantasy series are generally complete shit for children while sci-fi is a legitimate genre.

>>20329624
kill yourself

>>20329627
sci-fi is just fantasy with pretense

>>20329627
post your adult scifi

>>20329555
Explaining what's going on is exactly what ruins most scifi and fantasy. Nothing should ever be explained. Fictional worlds should be gradually discovered through context.

>>20329638

>>20329641
I'm getting an impression that you're not a Srandon Banderson fan

>>20329642
The three body problem is not analytically solvable.

how can westoid scifi even compete

>>20329642
chink shit
>>20329631
seethe and dilate
>>20329638
A Canticle for Leibowitz

>>20329553
coomer-pozzed-tranny position has already been filled by a janny

>>20329550
Is this the /lit/ equivalent of the
"I'm 16 and modern music sucks" YouTube comments?

How important are maps to you in fantasy books? I know some fantasy writers say not to get tied up in it.

>>20329638
Book of the New Sun.

>>20329594
God I miss actual paintings for cover art.

>>20329689
basically, but less self aware

>muh 20+ year old classics (No one cares that you read them)
vs
>up-and-coming hedonistic, dopamine addict, progression or power fantasy

>>20329690
When they are well made and thought out by the author they are fun. I always liked tracing (with my finger) around on the map the character's travels.
I don't think they are a necessity and sometimes they can be detrimental/counterproductive. And I do dislike lazy ones.

>>20329690
It's nice to go back and look at them sometimes but I honestly don't care for geography as a reader beyond relative distances between notable areas, so it doesn't really matter.

>>20329690
I hate both maps and illustrations, I purposefully choose not to look at even the cover of whatever fantasy I am reading, it just fucks with my imagination when I'm reading, not saying this in some hipster way

>>20329690
The only time I actually tried using a map and tracing a character's journey was First Law, it didn't matter in the end and was a waste of time

>>20329693
Books by Sanderson still have 'em

>>20329771
I know. I actually really liked Whelan's cover for the first Stormlight, but he seems to be phoning it in on the others.

bouncing jolenta booba on the boat

I'm in the mood for some trashy self insert power fantasy, what should I read /sffg/bros?

>>20329780
Children of Dune.

>>20329787
take that back.

>>20329803
HE SUPERJUMPED ACROSS THE DESERT BREAKING DAMS HE WAS THE SMARTEST PERSON EVER

“HEY CORRINO GUY YOU’RE GONNA BE MY BITCH FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. HEY DAD YOU’RE PATHETIC FOR GIVING UP WHERE I HAVE THE STRENGTH TO GO ON”

MUH GOLDEN PATH LMAO

>>20329550
>Lyonesse in S rank
I will never forgive you tasteless boomers for recommending I read that garbage.

wut

What is the
>last book you read
>book you are currently reading
>book you plan to read next

>>20329881
>Titus Groan
>Gormenghast
>Titus Alone

>>20329881
>Worm
>TWI
at this pace I doubt I'll finish TWI in my lifetime, my autism prevents me from reading anything else until I finish whatever I'm currently reading

>>20329883
Based and Tradition-pilled.

>>20329853
>Mela, like all merpeople, is able to turn into a full human so that she can walk on land. To follow "landbound custom", she finds clothing and shoes (conveniently growing on trees, as is common on Xanth). Of particular concern is which panties to choose - after all, there is significant interest in the color of her panties. After trying on dozens of pairs, Mela finally decides on plaid (the color she would choose was the subject of an Impossible Question that the Demon X(A/N)th asked the Good Magician Humfrey in Question Quest).

>334 pages

Wtf is is this?

>>20329881
>Shadow of the Torturer
>The Monk
>Claw of the Conciliator

>>20329881
>too like the lightning
>urth of the new sun
>idky, bartimaeus trilogy? ttl#2?

>>20329881
On a webnovel/LitRPG bend lately, so
>Randidly Ghosthound
>Dungeon Crawler Carl
>A Practical Guide to Evil probably

>>20329959
Based
>>20329991
Based
>>20330009
Cringe kid

>>20329642
i liked it a lot
was a bit weird to read about a chinese hero, but you'd expect a chinese hero in a chinese book
if you read all three books, you'll get 90% of all scifi future tech tropes.

>>20329550
>Daniel B. Greene

>>20329642
It's just such a dry English translation.

>>20329881
>Vampire Hunter D: Raiser of Gales
>Timelike Infinity
>The Library at Mount Char

Bran ate Jojen.

>>20330027
>frogposter calling anyone a kid

>>20329642
When I read this book I thought the twist the story was building up to would be that the default nature of the universe is chaotic, and our expectation that the laws of physics exist come from the Shooter-Farmer hypothesis. That is, since life can only come to exist when a period of stability occurs, the life born in such a period will always assume it to be the natural state of things until it suddenly ends and all life is wiped out. Instead I got universe-level game theory and Japanese ninja protons. Well it was still nice, but my initial letdown at the ayy lmao reveal took some time to get over.

>>20330258
>go to 4chan
>complain about frogs
are you for real

>>20330360
>4chan means frogs
how new are you

>>20330212
I enjoyed TI but for me? Ring.

>>20330212
I disliked Library at Mount Char but don’t remember enough about it to recall why.

what fantasy/sci-fi do art hoes read?

>>20330476
Le Guin & Kavan

I sense a disturbing lack of The Wandering Inn in this channel

>>20329619
You fell for a meme anon. It's trash all the way through.

>>20330476
YA

>>20330476
Webnovels.

>>20329586
retards. There was only one chart creator, and he only read Bakker and like 3 other books in the chart. So he changed the placements depending on who screamed the loudest and samefagged the most.

>>20329453
Broken Stars - Ken Liu, editor, and translator along with Carmen Yiling Yan (2019)

Even though it says science fiction, this collection skews much more towards speculative fiction, with an emphasis on allegories and twists. The one story that I enjoyed I had read previously before, so this was a definite loss for me overall. Even so, it was an interesting look at an anthology of Chinese fiction and what they represented.

Goodnight, Melancholy - Xia Jia (2015/2017)
A dual perspective story that alternated between a depressed person who had emotional support AI constructs and Alan Turing. This was also a metastory. It was well-done, but I considered it mostly a novelty.
Ok

Moonlight - Liu Cixin (2009/2017)
A guy's future self told him that only he could save the world. Disaster ensues, repeatedly.
Meh

Broken Stars - Tang Fei (2016/2016)
I don't understand why this was the title story. This was senseless, mean-spirited, and dismal. It was a contemporary high school story and the broken stars were metaphorical.
Blah

Submarines - Han Song (2014/2017)
Liu says this author's works are especially dense allegories and I admit that I wasn't able to comprehend them at all. Peasants constructed piecemeal submarines in terrible conditions which eventually caught on fire and couldn't be put out because the physical properties of water betrayed them and then the more prosperous profited from their scraps.
Blah

Salinger and the Koreans - Han Song (2016/2016)
The Cosmic Observer brought J.D. Salinger to McDonalds and then North Korea took over the world.
Blah

Under a Dangling Sky - Cheng Jingbo (2004/2017)
A mixture of greek myths and SF stories about dolphins.
Blah

What Has Passed Shall In Kinder Light Appear - Baoshu (-/2015)
When I first read this story in the March-April 2015 issue of Fantasy & Science Fiction Magazine I was thoroughly impressed. I've thought of it a lot in the years that followed. There are relatively few works that have had a noticeable impact on my worldview and this was one of them. I read it again and it was even better than I remembered. This lifelong saga of romance and tragedy began in the 2010s and ended in the 1940s. Everyone progresses through life as they normally would, but sociopolitical events occur in reverse chronology. This presentation greatly affected me emotionally and psychologically. I became convinced that what is viewed as progress, in whatever way that's defined, isn't anything more than arbitrary changes from prior events. The development of civilization isn't assured and regression, from my perspective, ever looms. Recent events have made this all the more evident. This wasn't ever published ever in China, and possibly couldn't be due to its content. It's easily my favorite work from China that I've read, though that's rather few, and it's also one of my favorite novellas.
Highly Enjoyable

>>20330711
The New Year Train - Hao Jingfang (2017/2017)
An unregulated and illegal train that traveled through the space-time continuum disappears. The story was a set-up for the punchline, which I wasn't amused by at all.
Blah

The Robot Who Liked to Tell Tall Tales - Fei Dao (2014/2017)
This sort of surreal and absurd allegorical odyssey was not what what I wanted to read at all. I have no doubt that it would be exceedingly enjoyable to right person, but that wasn't me at all.
Blah

The Snow of Jinyang - Zhang Ran (2014/2016)
This was a chuanyue story, which meant historical time travel. A guy from the future goes to 979 CE and planned to prevent the fall of Jinyang, a city, to be able to return to his own time. While there he quickly tried to establish modern technology and had surprising amount of success. It was told from the perspective of a local who really enjoyed these modern perks, especially their version of the Internet. There was a lot about this that I ought to have really liked, but the characters, especially the future guy are terrible, obnoxious, and entirely dislikeable. I surely missed several references aside from a few about Western and Japanese pop culture.
Ok

The Restaurant at the End of the Universe: Laba Porridge - Anna Wu (2014/2015)
A story about the sacrifices a writer made of their self and those that they knew in pursuit of literary and commercial greatness.
Meh

The First Emperor’s Games - Ma Boyong (2010/2017)
This story mixed videogame culture with ancient Chinese history. If you don't know all the many games and their relevance, the references won't mean anything. I knew everything related to the games, but didn't find the memes or references that amusing. They were mostly name-dropping and talking about game mechanics. I looked up the Chinese history. It just wasn't my sort of humor, or maybe it was because it's a translation.
Ok

Reflection - Gu Shi (2014/2017)
A man met clairvoyant who can only remember the future, then silliness happened.
Ok

The Brain Box - Regina Kanyu Wang (-/2017)
A husband underwent memory imprinting from a brain box of his deceased wife that had the last five minutes of her brain function saved within. He learned what she really thought of him.
Meh

Coming of the Light - Chen Qiufan (2015/2015)
Some guy had an existential crisis which led to the meaning of life and his existence. That didn't end well for anyone.
Meh

A History of Future Illnesses - Chen Qiufan (2012/2016)
The author began with heavyhanded slaps and hamfisted punches to the head to beat some sense into the reader. Then, all pretense was dropped and a stake was driven into the heart of the matter to exorcise the foolishness of their beliefs. Lastly the enlightened being left, assured that he did all that he could to save those he implored. It's been a long time since I groaned so much while reading. What a waste of imagination.
Blah

There were also essays. They were nice.

>>20329841
You are tone deaf.

>>20330603
Which POV is your favorite

>>20330982
I'm still at the beginning of Volume 3 but POVs have been a bit of a pain in the ass for a bit
I've been introduced to like 10 sets of characters by now but only like 2 have moved past that initial introduction phase and it was getting a bit tiring, I was just trying to power through them to get back to the story proper
I think I'm done with introductory chapters for now hought after meeting Geneva and a couple L chapters (Liscor I think? Thought it was gonna be Lyon at first)
But yeah
I feel like the Horns are gonna be my fave POV (if not Wistram chapters)

I’m annoyed about this but everyone I know is too woke to complain.

>>20331144
I don't know what this is. They look like American kids? Like some Nickelodeon commercial from the 90s.

>>20331144
>outgrew the books a decade ago
>doesn't even remotely affect me in any way
>move on
Simple as that

>>20331152
Percy Jackson and the Olympians remake. Black-haired guy became a blond guy, blonde girl became black, ginger guy became Indian.

>>20331157
Can’t help myself.

>>20329550
>see Earthsea and Dune in S
>stop reading the chart
I'm pretty sure there's multiple releases from this year alone that are better than those trash piles.

>>20329991
Tell me about Too Like the Lightning.

>>20331171
>Lightning Thief came out 17 years ago
>17 years of globalization, cultural exchange, and exponential growth in global trade since then
>Disney+
I'm more surpised that they didn't make Annabeth Chinese or some other asian, but maybe that would have played too much into the House Athena stereotype

The Gone World was pretty cool
I feel like the whole "the past is retro engineering the future and scientists trying to cure death are the ones that are bringing in the Terminus" stuff could have been more fleshed out, but that was still a nice sci fi story

Any series like Red Rising? Especially like the parts where the protagonist seems like an unhinged yet rational killing machine simultaneously. Probably liked the series so much because the Golds feel like Adeptusd Custodes from 40k that got transplanted to the RR universe.

>>20329550
At least people are reading...I guess...

I refuse to read.

>>20329550
>The Witcher in A
>Over Dying Earth, Lovecraft and TBP
>His Dark Materials in the bin with Eragon and other shitshows.
Made me reply.

>>20329881
>There Are Doors
>Urth of the New Sun
>Fifth Head of Cerberus
It's the year of the Wolfe, we'll see if I get sick of him before I read all his novels.

is David Eddings any good? semi interested in starting Belgariad

>>20331290
I liked the Sparhawk novels (their other series, six books) although it was so long ago I don't remember them in detail. They're wholesome and not overly generic.

Okay fagget. It has been years since this book was published.
Are there any books similar to this? I know when Arand does something, there are a bunch of low quality fugs who copies his work and changes his name. I want a series where someone has the ability to adjust other people, upgrade them.
Daniel Black also touched on this. Any books similar to those two?

>>20331184
uhh 24xx, abolishment of nation-states, some weird they/them pronoun shit, mystery stuff

>>20331171
That sucks. Shit man, I won't pretend to care because I have never read any of the Percy Jackson books, but I won't pretend that I'd hate it happening to something I'm invested in. It's funny though because these kids look so normal they could have picked them from any no-name elementary school chosen at random. Which can be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective.

>>20331366
>but I won't pretend that I'd hate it happening to something I'm invested in
That was meant to be a wouldn't, naturally. Although I tend to hate movie adaptations anyway, racebending is just the cherry on the top.

>>20331366
Eh, I think anon is hanging on too hard to his nostalgia. Percy Jackson + Heroes of Olympus was my favorite series as a kid. Why would you want a 1:1 adaptation of the books when you can just read them? It's not like the show will surpass the books in any way. Best case scenario you get an adaptation like the new Dune which had issues of it's own.

>>20329853
Volume 1 of that series is about pms

I dont like game of thrones or lord of the rings

I'd rather read books from age of sigmar tab on black library to be honest, and have a book in mind for my first read. One about orcs from the cover art

I think the lotr epic fantasy stuff is childish like harry potter, I like my thrillers grimdark. I mean lotr and harry potter were written for children and women. Im a adult man and I enjoy subject matter as dark as a cup of coffee, heroes that are easily killed

Plus i think game of thrones is overrated and furthermore too big of a commitment with the amount of volumes it has. I cant just stop reading one I'll have to read them all

I really enjoy the fact I can basically start anywhere that looks interesting in the wh40k or AOS tabs. Quite convenient honestly

>>20331424
Have you read Red Rising? Named and important characters drop like flies, especially when you reach Dark Age. The Hunger Games-esuqe aspect of the first book is pure marketing bait to set up the story and draw in readers, the rest of the series is nothing like it. The ruling caste from the series are basically Custodes that got transplanted to the RR universe and decided to rule, minus all the space magic and xenos.
My favorite 40k books are Watchers of the Throne and Master of Mankind.

>>20331424
>>20331424
Have you read Red Rising? Named and important characters drop like flies, especially when you reach Dark Age. The Hunger Games-esque aspect of the first book is pure marketing bait to set up the story and draw in readers, the rest of the series is nothing like it. The ruling caste from the series are basically Custodes that got transplanted to the RR universe and decided to rule, minus all the space magic and xenos.
My favorite 40k books are Watchers of the Throne and Master of Mankind.

These days I spend more time searching for something to read than reading. Do you have recs for books that are entertaining and have good characterization, world building and story telling?

>>20331483
>Have you read Red Rising?
No

Im interested in violence and war. Another thing that is appealing about AOS and 40k novels is that it happens in their respective universes, I prefer that than to jump around from dune, to red rising, or game of thrones to lotr

also I prefer 40k/aos orc/orkz and goblins to tolkien's

beastmen and vampires and lizards and man sized rats and roaming bands of northern barbarians all fighting against eachother. Rather sprawling around looking for books on that single subject matter like one of those dracula books or others

>>20331530
>I prefer that than to jump around from dune, to red rising, or game of thrones to lotr
That's unfortunate, I personally find that 40K gets too grating if you stay there for long periods of time, especially once you run out of the good shit and start hitting grimderp.

>>20331424
Im a adult man and I enjoy subject matter as dark as a cup of coffee, heroes that are easily killed

>>20331343
The 4th book of that series just got out yesterday, so...

but bloodthirsty barbarians and orcz looking for a good scrap and sneaky gitz all being in the medieval universe though

and trench battles and fanatical xenophobia and overall suffering on a much bigger scale in the scifi universe though

in universe A: conan but better. in universe B: star wars but way better.

>>20329453
I know people say Joe Abercrombie is a grimdark edgelord but his universe is one of the few in fantasy that seem appealing to me

>>20331589
The problem with his universe is that it's "realistic", making it mundane and boring as shit. The whole point about Grimdark and being edgy is that you can go balls to the wall crazy with your material. Asides from some of the mysticism and magic stuff it's not very interesting. Removing all the mystery and secrets for the magic (Bayaz) makes the world dull. GRRM does what Abercrombie does but much better, unironically

>“Your ignorance is understandable, my lord Tyrant, given the recent isolation of Callow,” Hakram said. “This is not a goat: he is, in fact, a purebred Liessen charger.”

>>20331566
Hmm. That seems the case. But how book three ended, I don't think it will go the way of books one and two. Any suggestions?

>>20331615
>GRRM does what Abercrombie does but much better, unironically
I know, I’m specifically looking for ASOIAF type fantasy to hold me over until the fat bastard finishes TWOW

Can someone give me a QRD on this series? I've gotten conflicting reports on whether it's a grimdark rape and murderfest or just a normal story with more blood and gore than usual.

>>20329594
This series seemed really cool for the first 200 pages but the next 2000 pages are fucking shit

>>20331629
I've heard his Bloodsworn Trilogy is much better, maybe read that first.

>>20331562
warhammer probably would have got me into reading way back if I knew about it back then

Not this diary of a whimpy kid, captain underpants, great gatsby, or whatever forced crap they have you read elsewhere because "its a le classic"

I want thrilling stories of violence

What are your top 3 stand-alone sf/f books?

>>20331643
I can't think of any outside of 1984 to be honest

>>20331616
>“Oh shit,” Ratface cursed. He’d always been a perceptive man. “About an hour ago,” I said, “I committed treason.”

1984 sucks

>>20331668
i love how there were always these historical and often absurd quotes at the beginning of every chapter, and as of vol.5 the catherine & co are starting dish out these types of lines of their own, in a way conveying that they themselves are now writing history.

i kind of expected it to happen but to see it is still pretty cool. this series really is all kinds of clever.

wow this looks interesting

I wonder what details I'll get to visualize whilst reading an AOS novel

game of what? tolkein who? step aside dune and dracula

>>20331643
Just Stanislaw Lem books come to mind desu

>>20331749
>this series really is all kinds of clever
Haven't found anything quite like it, and not for lack of trying
I love Akua

aos and 40k are freaking bad ass

I wonder why it isnt talked about more?

Adam Savage's top sci-fi novels? none of which are warhammer, just literal who novels I've never heard of nor care about.

Pewdiepie? Basically reads the same crap adam savage reads. Literal who novels, with literal who care underlying messages and again who cares about those messages

>>20331942
its like those novels were written with people who have ADHD in mind. The type of people who cant read any tom sawyer book or "muh classics" for 5 seconds without day dreaming about something else

>>20331942
Dear God anon, please stop spamming and Reddit spacing, we get it, you love GW cock. I like GW cock but I don't suck it 24-7. Go back to r/40kLore

>>20331953
>NOOOO YOU CANT LIKE INTERESTING FUN TO READ NOVELS

>YOU MUST FORCE YOURSELF THROUGH THE BORING CLASSICS FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL

>>20331961
I haven't read any of the "muh classics", I'm a zoom-zoom
I just don't exclusively read Black Library, there's stuff that's better and more creative. Letting yourself stagnate as a reader is a cardinal sin.

>>20331424
I used to be 14 years old too

>>20331975
oh you mean like world of warcraft which is a cheap clone ripoff of AOS?

yikes!

It’s times like this that I really start to miss the Bakkerposter

>>20331981
>World of Warcraft
>2005
>Age of Sigmar
>2015

>>20331982
having one faggot in a thread is better than having one faggot every thread

Sandersoi is sad
Bakker is his new dad
Sandersoi screams
Bakker sprays his cream.

>>20332001
warhammer fantasy was created in 1980 though and rebranded to AOS after rouge trader became warhammer 40k though

cope retard

>>20332003
Except the new faggot is going to be here every thread from now on

>>20332008
He makes his return!

>>20332011
>semantics autism
Ok anon, you win

>>20332015
>implying they aren't the SAMEFAG

>>20332024
thats right faggot, now shut up and get back in your place

it feels so good shitting on retards

>>20332021
He never left.

>>20331980
im 20 though also

>being adult means you must personally make your life suck and only do boring things
>>20331975
also books are just movies in your head anyway

so why not re-read books you enjoy

this black library stuff is the type of dramas I wanna escape into imagination land to and see the heckin horrors

like the tv show/movies I never got but wish to see now because everything today is junk

which is exactly the reason why I got into books now. Because everything else sucks and i'd rather live inside my own head

>>20332035
>Ego of Leman Russ
>Manlet physique to back it up

>>20332027
Bakkerfag is annoying but this isn’t his kind of shitposting, he wouldn’t besmirch the name of Bakker just to garner (You)’s

>>20332040
Suck hobo dick tranny.

So is Cleganebowl all but confirmed for TWOW? It’s pretty obvious that Sandor is still alive

>>20332085
Won't happen until a Dream of Spring, which will remain that. A Dream. He's going to be dead or incapable of writing in a few short years. Unless someone picks up his notes and pulls a WoT, it's over.

>>20329881
DNF for Oathbringer by Sanderson
Now reading Churchill by Andrew Roberts cause I'm burnt out on scifi/fantasy

>>20332115
>DNF for Oathbringer
same

>>20332107
As long as he’s canonically alive then I don’t give a shit what else happens

>>20332085
You are dumb as fuck. Grrm would have to contrive a reason for them to meet up considering they are a continent apart. No wonder you brainlets eat up this dumbshit.

>You are dumb as fuck. Grrm would have to contrive a reason for them to meet up considering they are a continent apart. No wonder you brainlets eat up this dumbshit.

>>20332116
I really wish it was good.

>>20332136
It's a common theme with me and Sanderson's series. I'll like the first two books of the series then nope out by the third.

>>20332123
lmao you’re so angry it’s hilarious

>>20332144
Unfortunately I started with Stormlight Archive and I'm now completely put off from reading anything else by him.

>>20331343
I like how the cover of 4 is this girl again in the same outfit but with much bigger tits. Based on your post about upgrading people I'm going to assume the main character is also a plastic surgeon.

>>20332154
Yeah it was bad, I got burnt out from reading for like a full month from Oathbringer. Red Rising was my salvation, execellent, bingeable palate cleanser. Was able to pull me back to reading form.

>>20332164
I read Red Rising right before starting Stormlight actually. It was pretty decent.

>>20332170
did you get to Dark Age?

>>20332085
What else is there for Sandor to do? It's possible, if he's converted to the Seven, for him to end up back in King's Landing if there's a religious uprising there. And then maybe, if it's discovered that Sansa is posing as a bastard daughter of Littlefinger in the Vale, that he leaves to try to find her.
I dunno, but he has no other motivations to do anything.

>>20332177
No I only read through Morning Star. I didn't want to continue until the 6th book is finished. I don't wouldn't mind going back to the world after a bit of a break.

>>20332179
>Joins the Living during the fight against the Long Knight
>Get's over his fear of fire from battles with the Walkers, finally realizes he can be a "true knight" like how Sansa dreamed of
>Cersei tries to mop up the survivors of the Long Night
>kino final battle for the future of Westeros, Cleganebowl is a small part of it

>>20332159
>I'm going to assume the main character is also a plastic surgeon.
Think of him as a Demigod. Once he owns you body and soul, he can change anything about you, from your eye color to you being able to fly.

>>20332190
Iron Gold and especially Dark Age is probably PB's best writing yet, can't recomend the second trilogy enough when Lightbringer comes out

>>20332200
>implying the long night won’t also kill Cersei and 90% of Westeros

Roose Bolton is an Other

>>20332207
If she allies with Euron, she'll have a Kraken or whatever he summons with his ritual on her side. Nothing to scoff at. She also has magic fire.

Roose Bolton's my pal

>>20332226
Don't think you know something about Roose Bolton. Here's a picture.

>>20332236
Why contain [the others]? scool

Only the true will Reign Supreme!
No matter how long you scheme
Only the true will Rule in might
No matter how hard you fight

>>20332270
/sffg/ is healing, finally sublime discussions.

>>20332270
Based

>>20332270
Finally, the poz is receding

>>20329453
Illustrations are so much more cooler than my imagination, its just so sad, how can I make my imagination better fellow fantasy enjoyers?

>>20332342
Only read Howard book with big city illustrations.

>>20332342
Unironically read manga

>>20332345
*titty

>>20332011
>rebranded
That's a weird way to call the end-times.
GW made AOS because Fantasy wasn't selling enough plastic models, in fact it was selling abysmally, so the pulled the plug and made a new setting. Gameplay wise is much more like 40k and atmosphere/setting wise is quite different from Fantasy.

>>20332342
I often delve into twitter/artstation/devianart and look for cool fantasy art and save a bunch of stuff in a folder to revisit every so often
Also sometimes movies and games

>>20332342
>how can I make my imagination better
Playing Fantasy games helped me, especially ones relevant to the books you enjoy, like if you like Nordic themes play Skyrim, if you like Celtic play Kingdoms of Amalur.

>>20331629
its neither, its a tame story about a boy, his magic wolf, mouthy sister and smol giantkiller gf in battle with clueless chucklefucks and over-the-top cartoonish villains.

>>20332433
>Recommending Kingdoms of Amalur
Anon why?
Instead of playing it you should tell him look up the story of its development and how it nearly bankrupted the state of Rhode Island.

>>20332342
You mean *GOOD* illustrations. For something as popular as the silmarillion, there's very little quality illustrations, 90% of it being deviantart-tier anime depictions of the feanor line.
I consider myself to have a fairly poor imagination, but still the image I have in my head is better than any illustration I've yet to see.

>>20332446
So you're saying it's based?

thinking of picking up the witcher series. good idea, or nah?

>>20332511
>didn't learn Polish before reading
You're asking to be filtered

>>20332511
Don't read it, geralt is a white knight and the series is literally about women and its pozzed.

>>20332511
You have to Magic 8 Ball it

Next time you poop, taste it. If it tastes slightly sweet, the answer is Yes, Go Ahead. If it tastes slightly nutty, the answer is No, Don't Do It.

I just read the first book of the three body problem (in Vietnamese).
I feel like it was okay at best, given that it got the Hugo award. Are the other two books better than the first one?

>>20332632
I don't know.

>>20329550
I haven't read Revered Insanity but I thought /sffg/ love it?
Or is it one of those "so bad its good" thing?

>>20332653
No, it's literally one guy.

>>20332653
Mc is a villain and is based. Most of /sffg/ hate him for it.

>>20332680
Reading about a murderhobo with no real goal or vision beyond "muh immortality" or "muh cultivation" is a waste of time

>>20332701
Yes, reading about some white knight with a goal of saving some woman and saving the world at the same time then living with her happily ever after until death in old age is not a waste of time.

>>20332632
Most people that like the series say the other two are better than the first. For my part I thought the first book was extremely overrated so I decided to give the other two a miss.

>>20332720
I cant even recall a popular book or series in the past 10 years that does this, grimdark and edge is all the rage these days. Asoiaf and GoT changed the entire western fantasy genre.

>>20332720
one has emotional depth the other doesn't. now go back to your work camp zang

>>20329453
Currently reading Perhaps The Stars (Terra Ignota), and just clicked that the Utopians calling JEDD "Mike" probably has a double meaning.
The explicit one is "Micromegas" which is both appropriate for JEDD and would please Madame, who is extremely horny for Voltaire.
But given that Utopia has it's capital on Luna City and that they're a bunch of SFF nerds, "Mike" could also refer to Mike (aka Mycroft Holmes) from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, the friendly supercomputer who is instrumental in achieving Luna's independence from Earth.
It makes sense because Utopia hopes that Mike will free them from Earth's complacent grasp, like his silicon namesake.

>>20332740
This. The concept that 'white knight saves the day' is the norm in fantasy in any way shape or form is a psyop. They are trying to make it seem like Grimdark represents some brave and daring break from the confines and restrictions of the tradition mired genre, as though Grimdark hasn't dominated for 20 years.

>>20329613
"Death, such a sweet fragrance!"

>"Kill, kill!"

>"Let the flower of life bloom brightly in the blood."

>He threw his head back and roared, actually improvising a poem.
made me laugh

>>20332740
There are variations but it is still mostly heros journey. Western hero is just so limiting (even edgy grimdark who eventually turns into a hero).

>>20332741
>Emotional depth
So just because I don't want or like excessive display of emotions I must be chinese? Clearly you are a woman or some hrt tranny.

>>20332725
Thanks I will give the 2nd book a try if it's still average then I will drop it.

>>20332806
>So just because I don't want or like excessive display of emotions I must be chinese? Clearly you are a woman or some hrt tranny.
There is excessive displays of emotion and there is the ‘everything is meaningless’ shtick propagated by bugmen who evolves from cockroaches and not apes. I mean If the main character doesn’t care then why should I?

>>20329627
Most sci fi is just fantasy set in space.
To have actual real science fiction you cant break physics, there is just not that much of it out there.

No FTL coms or travel. No artificial gravity fields, shields, tractor or repulse beams etc. No mind powers like telepathy, telekinesis or prophecy.

An actual understanding of methods of acceleration, the propellants and power sources needed to move craft etc.

Authors are lazy and stupid. Also the types of stories you can fit into a physics accurate setting is going to make things like traveling to planets a long arduous thing and space combat a loose loose proposition. There is no slugging it out, each ship fires a cloud of nukes and both are destroyed end of story.

Then there's the boring shit in between, handwavy bullshit about neuro implants, nano machines etc.

>>20330202
DEHYDRATE

>>20332921
>real science fiction
No such thing

Hello, frens.
I'm reading pic related.

>>20332985
>They sat, cross-legged, and watched. Two new friends, strangers only hours ago.
A woman lay on her stomach on a bed while a man did what looked like push-ups above her.
“Oh,” Charles said. “I know what this is.”
“What is it?”
“This is love. My mother told me that when a man attaches himself to a woman it’s called ‘love.’”
Richard considered this. “It looks more like exercise to me.”
This book is going places.

Bakker rode scouting the lands
Seeing the pozzed swim in filth
He said "I will fix this with my own hands"
And he raised his hands and they met death

>>20333098
*bows down*

>>20332511
Just don't read them in English if possible. Any other translation is handled better.

>>20329841
Shut the fuck up zoomer

is the wheel of time worth reading?

>>20333387
no

TWI is fucking boring

>>20333399
do people listen to it on audio or read it?

>>20332826
>‘everything is meaningless’ shtick propagated by bugmen
Not that anon, but you have thing in western fantasy (now), 'everything is meaningless so make of life what you will'. If we're talking about Fang Yuan, I got temperance and perseverance from him, much more than any other fantasy character. Also, do most grimdark characters not just float around meaninglessly while of course being witty and cynical?

>>20333436
*you have the same thing

>>20333399
No shit. What else would you expect from something that is over 8 million words? It's obviously bloated as hell.

>>20333387
it's way too long. I remember walking into my book store as a teen and seeing entire wheel of time shelves and it pissed me off. It's not worth your time.

Is this Delany's best?

>>20332116
>>20332115
I gave up 4/5 of the way through the 4th one a year ago and am finally finishing it. It sucks less after such a long break.

Well, what am I in for?

>>20332342
read slower
when you go to bed at night try to recall the events of stories you've read in the past, summarizing as little as possible and visualizing them

Well, what am I in for?

>>20333627
whatever happened to his maritime fantasy story that was going to tackle colonialism?

>>20333627
i thought it was unreadable. middleschool writing assignment tier

>>20333436
>temperance and perseverance
These qualities are universally disliked by wide range of mentally diseassed individuals (tr**nies, po**ed, whiteknights, homosexuals, feminists and sjws), of course a mc like Fang Yuan is the most hated of all mcs.

>>20332826
>I mean If the main character doesn’t care then why should I?
Mc has his goals and objectives so he does care and is actively working towards achieving them. If he didn't care he basically would have died long time ago.

>>20333627
Since we're on the topic of shit books published by youtubers, is this book shit?
Also, I'm noticing the covers are quite similar

>>20333712
Just one look at the cover is enough to know this book is trash

>>20333712
Book about a r*pist getting a second lease on life

>>20333333

>>20329881
>dawn of everything by david graeber and david wengrow
>tyll by daniel kehlmann (just started it tonight)
>not sure yet

Why does Stephen R. Donaldson like rape so much?

>>20329881
Of Sea and Shadow
Of Shadow and Sea
Of Dawn and Darkness

>>20333755
Not sure who this Donaldson fellow is, but who doesn't like rape?

>>20333778
me, I hate it

>>20333712
I made it like 5 pages because the opening had the villain protagonist talking about farting and shitting

>>20333798
>Shadman

>>20333784
The vast majority of your ancestors procreated via rape. You would not be here without rape. We should all celebrate rape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpqkWU1Yh5M

>>20333844
>The cast majority of you ancestors procreated via rape
Sorry I'm not a nigger

Im having fun reading I shall seal the heavens, ty anon for the recommendation

>>20333844
Cringe
Also
>You would not be here
God I wish

>>20333885
what is it about? I tend to avoid anything looking remotely chinese

Is Worm capeshit? I want to start it but I really hate superhero stuff

>>20333912
Cultivation, immortality, the basics that are in all works of this genre, but the protagonist is a loot goblin and that type always makes me laugh

>>20333726
>>20333798
Damn, sounds good
Picked up

>>20329689
>>20329696
>things that have stood the test of time are actually pretty fucking
Who would have guessed? Clearly not you retards, at least.

>>20331483
>My favorite 40k books are Watchers of the Throne and Master of Mankind
Traitor General all the way. It kinda feels like Auschwitz on steroids

>>20329642
Should the series have begun with the One Body Problem?

>>20334030
>things that have stood the test of time
>Dune
okay

>>20334038
Are there any books where the protagonist has to struggle with having multiple bodies?

>>20334030
That wasn't what I'm saying. You just come off like those teenagers who think that comparing the output of the last 5-15 years of a medium with everything else that was written before is somehow fair or that it says something about the state of the art/industry.
Fans here of modern genre fiction talk about its issues much more eloquently than you.
Saying that there are more good books in the past than in the present is plainly obvious, it's mathematical. You're not elinghtening anyone.

i hate happy endings

they're all so phony. It makes me so angry. I fucking hate tolkien

I want to read about characters suffering thats the only way I'll feel happy

>>20334087
Oh yeah? I wish your life gets a happy ending anon.

>>20334091
stop being a child

happy ending isnt real

>>20334092
is everything okay in school, son?

>>20334092
>Happy ending isn't real
Your mom showed me plenty anon

>>20334093
im 20

remove the wool from your eyes _soycuck

happiness is a hallucination

>>20334097
grab a gun and fucking kill yourself

>>20334100
Grab a pussy and be happy

>>20334103
slit your fucking wrists

>>20334087
Sometimes I wish there was more happy endings desu, I know happy is not real but I'm reading fantasy, its escapism. I also enjoy sad ending and dark books but I need happy too.

>>20334110
kill yourself cuck

>>20334098
>I'm 20
Come back when you're 35, then you can talk about suffering lmao

>>20334117
no

i found good reads
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/82250.Best_Grimdark

hope this will be fun

t.currently reading "in cold blood" and im almost done + dont wanna be a quitter so I have to finish it before moving onto medieval grimdarkorinos

>>20334098
>im 20
embarrassing, to think I share the thread with people born in 2002

>>20334125
>ctrl f
>Bakker
>2
Supreme List.

>>20334125
I don't care for grimdark, more of a noblebright kind of guy :^)

>>20334112
Ok.

>>20334110
I read fantasy for escapism from the impending doom and death that awaits millions in my state due to drought and future crop failures from climate change. Fun times ahead

is mad max a novel ?

>>20334157
just move bro

>>20334161
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13640320-mad-max
yea boy

>>20334125
Is Red Queen's War a good series?

>>20334168
its shit

yawn

>>20334157
>climate change
No wonder you just graduated from being a teenager by less than a year.

ngl I haven't been excited to read a book since I finished MOL

>>20334179
MOL?

>>20334182
Mother of Learning probably, it's in my top 3 webnovels

>>20334087
I want happy endings AND a happily-ever-after epilogue plus a sequel featuring the MC's grandchildren. And i want a happy ending to that as well.

>>20334184
Check out the videogame Wildermyth

>>20334157
Your state will be fine, even if it gets really bad you can just migrate or get help from neighbor states.

>>20334179
As in it was so good you can't find anything to read to match up to it? Or it burnt you out and now you can't read anything.

>>20329881
>last book you read
The Tranquil Sea by Emily St. John Mandela.
>book you are currently reading
Hail Mary by Andy Weir.
>book you plan to read next
Not sure but I might read something non ssfg to mix it up a bit.

>>20334189
Short term we might be ok, like 5-10 years max. 2-3 decades? No chance. Especially when half the state can basically burn down at any moment now. We had wildfires in January for fucks sake

>>20334204
Wild Fires in January are fine if you have enough underbrush.

>>20334203
>The Tranquil Sea
*The Sea of Tranquility*

>>20333983
>Is Worm capeshit? I want to start it but I really hate superhero stuff
It is superhero story, but peobably the onyl one that I actually liked. It's very grimdark, rational and has great world-building. It's more sci-fi than super-hero, and has good mystery stuff interwoven with the main plot. I would recommend it even to people who dislike super hero stuff, because it's very different from trite and repetetive stories that usually come out of this 'genre.' The author, Wildbow, seems to very into psychology and making complicated characters, especially grey ones.

The biggest accusations against Worm that I've seen is that it's dark parts are gratuitous and the story is too pessimistic, but I personaly disagree. To me it's just wannabe grimdark lovers who can't stand actual grimdark stuff, not as if story didn't have optimistic and idealistic elements anyway. If there's one flaw the work has, and which Wildbow has acknowledged, is that some of the main characters are simply too young, yet acting a few years older, which is incredibly jarring at times. But you can easily overlook that.

>>20333356
I'm a millennial. When I say Lyonesse is for boomers, I mean literal boomers. It's well within GenX's time frame too. There's no way anyone younger than fucking FIFTY actually appreciates that book.

And that's not to say all old books are bad. But some books don't stand the test of time, and that's one of them.

>>20329881
china mielville - kraken
stephen hawking - brief history of time
not sure whats next

>>20334258
thanks for taking the time to reply, I'll read it next then

>>20334258
>Wannabe grimdark lovers who can't stand actual grimdark
Liking your coffee black isn't a personality trait

>>20334282
NTA, it's worth reading. It does suffer from the webnovel sin of having some bloat. The only webnovel I think that didn't have any bloat or actually could have used more was MoL

>>20334272
You sound like you read webnovels. Opinion discarded.

>>20334276
Heh, I have that Hawking book on my kindle but I don't know if I'll get around to reading it. Nothing new is presented in there for someone like me.

>>20334293
I don't read webnovels. Never have. Wouldn't even know where or how to begin. Try again.

>>20334296
im struggling reading it because im reading the words in hawkings automated voice and it makes me laugh

>>20334297
>>20334293
Speaking of webnovels, where the fuck is that webnovel reviewer anon who said he was gong to read MoL then dipped out for the past 6 threads.

>>20334310
I'm still stuck on the first pages of his sister waking him up, I'll try reading it for good today

>>20334313
Make it to chapter 5 or 8 at least, then decide to continue or drop it

>>20334293
Webnovels are the future

sci-fi books about in the 40th millenia there is only war?

>>20334324
webnovels are all shit

redditors cant fucking write good stories

they're all literally so fucking bad. every r/nosleep story is literally fucking garbage

oh no no no no

women always have bad taste in books

>>20334369
I wish more sites did this. Just having a button to filter out all the poz garbage and retarded roastierotica is a godsend.

>>20334369
>more eastern
How do we stop the yellow fever menace?

>>20334369
>more eastern
yikes
>gaming
yikes
>horror
yikes
>sports
yikes

fucking yawn

male tab should only include:
•war
•violence
•realistic
•grimdark

>>20334392
Samurai stories are based.

>>20334392
coomers dont read books

they're attention span and urge for instant gratification limits them to comic books and other brainlet media

all asian books are a fucking joke

>>20334366
don't care, didn't ask

>>20334407
>t.shitter reddit writer
you DO care

seethe harder
no one wants to read your shitty books

>>20334409
the only one seething here is (you), I like webnovels, and I'll keep reading them
there is nothing you can do about it

>>20334415
you like shit

cry about it

>>20334366
>>20334409
>>20334421
>muh Reddit
>Reddit spacing in every goddamn post
go back anon

>>20334431
don't reply to bait

>>20334396
>Grimdark
That's the 12 year old audience

>“The Ancient Spirit Slaying Sect?!”

>Leylin’s looked lost for a second, and immediately made a sound of
>astonishment. “Do you mean that sect that’s full of lunatics who think that
>spirits are the ultimate resting state of all living beings and like to
>massacre and sacrifice human flesh from time to time? Do you mean that wicked
>Magi sect?”

>“Exactly! The Ancient Spirit Slaying Sect was just a small sect in the south
>coast during ancient times. I didn’t expect you to know of them!”

>The old witch gasped at Leylin.
Powerful dialogue, excellent storytelling. Chinese authors truly are on a different level.

>>20334448
>muh boring LGBTQ+ teen romance fantasy novel

kill yourself

>>20334457
>Powerful dialogue, excellent storytelling. Chinese authors truly are on a different level.
It's truly impossible to tell whether the chinese language is that hard to translate from, or the writers are just bad. Like, to them it might sounds just as good as any amazing dialogue we cherish. I kinda doubt it, though. They are likely just bad.

what's the funniest story you've read recently /sffg/bros?

>>20334462
>It's truly impossible to tell whether the chinese language is that hard to translate from
It's not, it's not, and they are just that bad.

>>20334487

>>20334458
Where did I quote that? Are you well?

>>20334467
Going off of this, is there a fantasy version of Wodehouse?

don't say Pratchett

>>20329550
>Earthsea
>S tier

Are you fucking 12?

>>20329550
How the fuck is Eragon worse than any of the books above it?

ugh

i want to read a grimdark novel because:
•its cool
•better than shitty boring novel i dont want to read

Im also nervous that it wont be want i think it is, but I've sat through various warhammer lore videos and the only thing visible on the video itself is one image although I was quite entertained with the story

so im hopeful that when i begin reading these novels i'll be adequately entertained and perhaps elated

Im more of in the audio book phase of reading trying to develop a connection with books prior to go and read them due to the possibility I wont *click* with them when I start all out reading prematurely

I want to know what I can experience whilst reading and be able to do it without procrastination like watching a tv. But unlike tv, I'd enjoy reading more

No i dont want to read boring drama and hear details about the minute details of whatever dress or small movements woman or dude is doing whilst in a restaurant talking about office or other horrendously boring things

>>20334467
I'm currently reading through the series, but I'm finding Dungeon Crawler Carl a pretty funny thing. It's made all the funnier by the fact that the main protagonists are taking things as seriously and emotionally as you'd expect, meanwhile the situations get more and more absurd.

>>20334569
>I was quite entertained with the story

with that being said even then the videos it self is just a summary of the story which gives me anticipation for what could be

>>20334318
I'll try to finish it today on one sitting if possible, doesn't seem that long

>>20334569
also make note of my recent decision to choose a random series to begin reading from here >>20334125

also prepare to wonder as I may choose one at random from the top of the list

>>20334585
Once you finish, try APGTE

>>20334569
can you
1. stop avatarposting
2. put some effort into your posts
3. go away
please. also stop being such an obvious zoomer.

>>20334611
You do know you can just report it instead of replying to obvious bait, right?

do you guys jump paragraphs you instinctively know are just there for filler and bloating purposes? I feel like I'm getting better at speeding through them and getting to the core of the story
like a single glance at the ending sentence of a paragraph often tells me enough about whether to skip it or not

>>20334620
I drop books the moment I encounter bloat. Life is too short.

>>20334620
This is a necessary skill for webnovels. Worm was like 40% bloat/filler.

>>20334620
Yes. A lot of the time it's very obvious when a part of the story is either exposition or outright filler that can just be skipped. Anything involving rules for a magic system for example can just be skipped entirely because it's just retreading the same shit you've read a hundred other times. Most exposition is just pointless, I don't give a shit how the road is paved or what the houses look like. I can fill in the blanks myself.

>>20334611
no i want action and carnage in my novels >:[

I fucking bland and boring

>>20334620
sometimes, but it can be very counterproductive depending on the writer.
sometimes you'll find yourself not being able to follow a thought or line of reasoning because of it and you'll have to backtrack anyway. but again, it depends.

>>20334629
Life happens in the details. You may be too young to understand now, but you will be kicking yourself when you realized you skipped smelling the flowers for picking them.

>>20334634
You've just won the stupidest post of the day award.

>>20334637
he is correct, and you're a braindead speedreader.

>>20334634
NTA but what's the point of reading through mundane descriptions if the prose isn't great?
more often than not writers don't know how to describe shit, it's all very vapid and limited vocabulary about how blue the sky is or how huge the walls are, no point dwelling over uninspired settings.

>>20334620
If I have to skip bloat to enjoy something I would rather skip the whole book altogether.

>author develops intricate magic system for a series
>forget everything about it by the time the next book comes out
Many such cases

>>20334656
More like
>Author develops intricate magic system for a series
>Completely skip over it and miss absolutely nothing because it's exactly the same autistic shit every other author does and it never actually matters

>>20334644
you'd have a point if he was actually talking about skipping "mundane shit". but he isn't.

>>20334306
kek at least it will be memorable for ya

>>20334656
>>20334664
I hate magic so much it's unreal, I can't even name the last fantasy I read where the magic autism felt new

I still haven't settled on my next book to read. Will probably push back Bastion until the sequel is out. I have also been getting back into my Toriko reread and have about 6 volumes left. Also been reading Kimetsu no Yaiba and I don't get the appeal beyond pandering to the fujos.

>>20334664
This is what >>20334634 was talking about.
>Author develops intricate and interesting novel
>Completely skip over it and miss absolutely nothing because it's exactly the same autistic shit every other author does and it never actually matters
The intricate description of a magic system (even if it's underutilized) is still part of the novel and may be better than the plot.

>>20334692
wrong board anon

>>20334696
>and may be better than the plot.
No, it mayn't.

>>20334707
And you'll never know if it is because you keep skipping.

>>20334709
But I will know, because I don't need to read it to know exactly how it works.

>>20334543
Pratchett

>>20334714
And I don't need to read your posts to know that you will forever remain a faggot.

why people put wizard knight high on any list. jusy finished it was like 4/10

>>20334722
Magic systems are shit and almost always detract from the story, deal with it.

>>20334728
except black company

>>20334726
Because they don’t read it. They just say they read it.

>>20334728
>my thoughts on my skewed perception of reality is fact
Cope. Furthermore, novel =/= story, go read the synopsis busy man.

>>20334782
Why do you keep replying to bait, anon?

>>20334782
eat shit toiletsoul

>>20334290
Mother of learning was fine. It didn’t need bloat.

>>20334701
Nah, I'll discuss relevant manga in addition to the books I read as long as we have newfags polluting the threads with their ceaseless dribble, which seems to be unending.

>>20334844
>I'll discuss relevant manga
you'll be discussing it alone then, no one is here to talk about manga, there is a board dedicated for that.

>>20334844
>we have newfags polluting the threads with their ceaseless dribble, which seems to be unending.
Just ignore them or report them. Either or, it’ll fix the thread up.

>>20334739
Black Company doesn't have a magic system, the wizards can just do magic.

Was anyone else around when Deathly Hallows leaked on /b/ a few days before the book came out? Good times.

>>20334862
It has something resembling a power scale system, but it's delivered in handwaved fashion. I think it's One-Eye who says what the Taken can do in hours would probably take someone like him weeks of preparation to do. Not to mention most Company wizards are small-time illusionists.

>>20334844
>wants to talk about shonenshit manga on /sffg/ of all places
>complains about newfags
hopefully the irony is not lost on you

so many good series locked behind haveing to read 6+ books any series that was around 3? new to reading

>>20334874
Power scale =/= system. Anyway, the only time the way the magic "works" actually comes up is in true naming the wizard, which is just standard wizard rules anyway.

>>20334865
I went offline a week before Deathly Hallows came out. It sucked, but what can you do. In retrospect, reading leaks would have been fun than the book itself, but it's probably better this way.

>>20334879
The IP didn’t change so you ain’t new to reading.

99% of books are boring

read grimdark novels like a man

>>20334892
Noooooo

grimdark le bad because its not le boring classic shit novel

>>20334892
Ah, yes, because novels where everything sucks and the most you can hope for is "things suck a little less but mostly everything still sucks" aren't boring.

>>20334887
yes i have read 3 series mage knight and black company also the mistborn saga i say im pretty new

>>20334902
No, you aren’t. Fuck off already.

>huckleberry finn
boring shit novel i literally blanked out while reading it
>great gatsby
boring shit novel "muh classic" about a party filled with so much boring useless detail. literal definition book too boring i simply couldnt read it
>animal farm
>lord of the flies
boring shit novels with useless boring messages behind it in an attempt to seem "le deep and insightful" but comes out stupid and pointless
>1984
same as previous. equally boring and stupid
you cant get me to listen to an audio narration of this because its so boring and stupid
>lord of the rings
tolkien happy ending trash

grimdark genre is viewed as anti-tolkien

>>20334901
>NOOOO YOU CANT READ ABOUT SPACE SOLDIERS IN A TRENCH BATTLE AGAINST CHAOS ALIGNED SOLDIERS!!! THAT IS LE DEPRESSING AND LE BORING BECAUSE... BECAUSE... I AM A _soy cuck WHO NEEDS A HAPPY ENDING *sucks on _soy pacifier*

>>20334921
Fuck off edgy teenager, you have homework due monday.

>>20334945
Don’t reply to the spammer

>>20334945
im 20

also fuck off boring boomer

if books are supposed to be movies in your head why are you picking the most boring shit to read about?

right now Im reading a novel and *vague summary* they were in a court room and I could see them as I was reading it, vividly

I think you retards read books because you think there is some benefit to it instead of actually enjoying what you read

>>20334971
I think you're projecting

>>20334971
I just read for fun, nothing more and nothing less.

>>20334980
name a fun book you're reading right now

>>20334991
I'm reading Storm front by Jim Butcher.

>>20335000
>Harry Dresden is the best at what he does. Well, technically, he's the only at what he does. So when the Chicago P.D. has a case that transcends mortal creativity or capability, they come to him for answers. For the "everyday" world is actually full of strange and magical things—and most don't play well with humans. That's where Harry comes in. Takes a wizard to catch a—well, whatever. There's just one problem. Business, to put it mildly, stinks.

>So when the police bring him in to consult on a grisly double murder committed with black magic, Harry's seeing dollar signs. But where there's black magic, there's a black mage behind it. And now that mage knows Harry's name. And that's when things start to get interesting.

>Magic - it can get a guy killed

yawn [that means boring]

sffg gets the worst turbo autists

>>20335023
it's also the only place on this god forsaken board that reads and gets its threads to constantly hit 400 posts, maybe autism isn't so bad

>>20335023
The autists/spammers wouldn’t be an issue if people just report them.

>>20334971
Benefit and enjoyment are not mutually exclusive, and you can argue that enjoyment is a benefit.

>>20334960
>I'm 20
So you stopped being a teenager by less than a year? Can you at least attempt to be less of a cringy faggot?

are there any series similar to ASOIAF in the sense of being low fantasy military fiction, but not written by a dirty old man who inserts his fetishes all over the place?

>>20335048
Stop replying to the spammer, anon.

>>20335050
all fantasy is just dirty old men inserting their fetishes all over the place

>>20335053
True, but some of those dirty old men happen to be women.

>>20335053
Someone once told me: "Why would you write Fantasy and not include your own fetishes?" and it's stayed with me. That statement is truly profound desu, most writers write stories that they themselves would like to read, so why not insert their own fetishes? If I was to write a fantasy story I'd absolutely include fierce warrior woman that loves to ride men in bed, because I find it titilating and interesting, and I believe many readers would do as well. Why would I stop myself? There is no point. Unless you want to claim that the inclusion of what would end up decreasing the sales, but money is irrelevant to taste.

>>20334875
The irony of your false implication that that is all I wish to discuss? A one-off post including everything I am reading, beyond novels, causes zero harm to the thread despite your ego's opinion.

>>20334960
Gonna be butthurt when you find out what a frontal lobe does and when it develops, kiddo.

>>20335000
I half-semi considered reading that because the premise sounded interesting but then I found out that it's set in the present place at the present time and I was so fundamentally sickened I did not read it.

>>20335067
>write your fetishes into books kids will read
great advice anon, very cool
i'm not a prude or anything when it comes to sex in books, but putting my fetishes into a genre with a young audience like fantasy would feel fucking weird to me

>>20335067
wow truly an enlightening look inside the mind of Der Coomer

>>20334282
the anon recommending you worm is probably an immature autist fyi
worm is actually the most grimderp shit i've ever read and about a third of it is completely skippable even if you're into the ideas
by "really into psychology" they mean he says a bunch of tumblresque shit about "headspaces"
it won't kill you to read it but don't expect some masterpiece