/lit/ - Literature

>>20323088
I’m going to shit up your thread for deleting mine you janny faggot, better get ready because I have all the IP’s I need

I'm looking for some (non-pornographic) books that involve a romantic relationship between a human male and non-human female as a substantial plot point. And when I say non-human female I don't mean "a human with pointy ears that lives a long time" or "alien that looks exactly like a human but has wrinkles on their nose so that makes them actually an alien", I mean a dragon or a werewolf or Lovecraftian tentacle beast or a sentient spaceship or something. I'm currently reading Mercedes Lackey's "Obsidian Trilogy" on the basis that the generic chosen one boy hero winds up in a relationship with a demon girl that looks sort of like a tiefling, which could stand to be a bit more monstrous, but at least she couldn't be mistaken for a human, what with the horns, hooves, and red skin.

>>20323109
Nobody cares weirdo

This image makes janny shit his pants

Keep on deleting my posts and trying to get me banned, I’ll just reset my router every time
Never should have deleted my thread, now I’ll make your life a living hell

>>20323109
This is one of the few areas where TVTropes is helpful.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/InterspeciesRomance/Literature

>>20323088
>Struggles to contain awesomeness

Can I get some SciFi with big
>FUCK YEAR HUMANITY
vibes? I played Xenoblade Chronicles X and astral chain recently and really dug the settings of humanity pushed to the brink living in and defending a cool ark city despite neither game having a good story

>>20323150
see the problem with this is that 90% of these are human female + monsterboy (Beauty and the Beast scenario), 5% human male and human female (with pointy ears), 4% non-human male and non-human female, and 1% plain old bestiality

>>20323207
The Undying Mercenaries series by B.V Larson.

>>20323088
What are you reading and what are you planning to read? I’m currently starting Death Angel’s Shadow, the Kane short story collection by Karl Edward Wagner. Also debating whether to finish the Fritz Lieberman collection The Three of Swords this weekend or start my Warhammer collection Headhunters.

>>20322682 #
The novel isn't actually like this, it's just a funny interpretation that makes the protagonist look like a psycho

>>20322682
>>20323009
The actual webnovel isn't actually this btw, it's just a misconstrued interpretation of events to make the protagonist seem like an unhinged psycho

Walder Frey did nothing wrong

anyone else can't get into other mediums anymore? I don't understand how this is possible but I can spend hours a day reading a novel nonstop yet I have a hard time finishing a 2 hours film without taking a break every 20 minutes

Any other fantasy similar to this?

>>20323401
Weird, I can watch 4 hours of TV without interruption but I have to take 1 or 2 breaks a chapter

>in 1946 he went back to writing stories for publication in the U.S.A and decided to try a modified form of what is unhappily known as 'science fiction'
Another day passes where I am punished mentally for insisting on reading everything in a book, not just the part that's the story.

>>20323401
Reading feels more time efficient than watching shit

>>20323124
Delete this, it is offensive to my people.

>>20323354
I finished Infinite Realm 3 and it is in a great spot now. Not sure what to read next. Maybe I'll check out Bastion or read another Who novel.

any cool scifi shit that's like metroid

Fuck bros, I was finally able to get A Dance with Dragons used for under $5 although unfortunately it was the hardback edition not the paperback which sucks a bit
Now I can finally finish the series until Winds of Winter comes out
Fuck paying full price for books

>>20323109
The Would You Love a Monster Girl series by Cebelius.
The first book is an Arachne, the second is a Gryphon.

>>20323948
>until Winds of Winter comes out
sweet summer child

>>20323964
It is coming out soon (next 5 years)

I finished this one today based off a recummendation here. Despite a decent start actual smut failed to materialize in any reasonable amount, quite disappointing. That said the physics, politics and for the most part even the economy were reasonably well crafted and were decently internally consistent, better than most space operas. The audio book narration was excellent. The pacing was decent, the battles were somewhat better than average. I wish the big reveal at the end wasn't foreshadowed so fucking hard. MC was was OP with a get out of any situation gimmick and plot armor so thick to took any thrill out of the danger, that can be hard to wright out of a single POV narrative but IDK, try harder. That said she didn't come off as too much of a marry sue, and she was cute and likeable, I wish she was more cute and funny instead.

I get the vibe that the author is a channer. Also he's a fucking lazy bastard. He suckles at the teat of those subscribe star patrons who fork over ~$50k a year for the pillage of reading an unpublished chapter a month. Five years and so sequel, three years behind schedule on the indicated release date. I fucking hate portion/subscribe star. We need to pay authors just enough to keep them hungry so they keep working and reward them only for publishing. You make it too easy for them and they become unproductive.

Overall I give this book a B+, I consume around 1000 pages per day and I've already read all the really good sci fi, this was decently better than average but still not great. Thanks to the anon who recommended it, unless that was you William in which case get the fuck off here and get back to work.

>>20323948

You pay for books?

>>20323994
Yes
I pay $1-6 AUD for each of my books
Usually $2-3 each

>>20324008
Libgen
ABB
An actual fucking library?

>>20324024
Idk what ABB is
Yeah I use libgen and I have a kindle
My local library isn't very good and besides I like book hoarding

>>20324036
http://audiobookbay.se/ Legit the best place for audiobooks.
I wouldn't have room to keep a physical copy of every book I read.

>>20323354
>What are you reading and what are you planning to read?
Finishing up my reread of Peculiar Soul, gonna take a crack at A Practical Guide to Sorcery once I finish

>>20323948
Why wouldn’t you want the hardcover?

>>20324041
Ah alright
I don't like listening to audiobooks because I find it far too easy to space out and miss like 5 minutes of text
I just have a lot of boxes full of books that I bought for $2-3
>>20324047
I like hardbacks but only if they're clothbound and smyth sewn
Dance with Dragons is way too big to read comfortably imo, I'd rather have it as a split paperback

>>20324056

I will spend hours looking for a good book, worrying about also getting a good deal on said book is just too much overhead. If I can get it at my library then I frequently do. If I cant then I find it by other means and rarely does that include paying for it past what I pay for KU.

VLC phone app has a rewind ten seconds feature for audio books. I can also pause and unpause with a click on my bluetooth earbuds. Usually I only have a problem when I am falling asleep, but also nothing is more comfy and falling asleep to a good story, I just have to rewind a bit in the morning.

What are some books with well written action sequences. Gunfights, magic battles, swordfights, brawlings etc?

Volume 2 of TWI finished
My biggest complain so far is how Pisces is being treated
I hope this will be rectified soon enough He and Ceria better get back together and have some interesting making up and falling in love again arc

>>20324158
ISSTH has the best looting scenes

>>20324199
I wish people would stop using abbreviations when recommending books...
What does ISSTH mean?

>>20324223
I Shall Seal The Heavens

>>20324226
Thanks.

>>20324223
I wish people would learn how to use search engines and
>>20324226
stop spoonfeeding

>>20324228
Most of the time if you just google any abbreviation here followed by "web novel", "book", or "series", whatever the anon is talking about usually pops up.

>>20324199
Anon who asked here, thanks ill check it out

>>20323354
First Law by Joe Abercrombie. Planning to go on to read other stuff by Abercrombie. Really digging it; I hadn't enjoyed a fantasy series so thoroughly in a long time.

So I've just read this short, Dominion of Leviathan:
https://www.tor.com/2022/04/13/the-dominion-of-leviathan-manish-melwani/

I'm pretty desperate to find some similar stories, short or long form. Got an absolute insatiable taste now for transhuman far future space opera.

>>20324398
sell me on peculiar soul

I'm having a hard time deciding what to read next between TWI and a practical guide to evil, what should I go for /sffg/bros?

>>20324466
Practical Guide is far better.

>>20324447
Alt-Earth with WWI technology. There's magic that consists of powers called souls that dwell in people. These "ensouled people" have a single power that ranges from being able to see farther, increased physical durability, or being able to shoot fire out of their hands. When one of these people die, their soul and thereby power is transfered to a random living person. These powers alter the way the world works and how civilization functions at a core level. the author goes hard with the world building, with epigraphs, fake newspaper clips, and even propaganda flyers.
I don't want to reveal too much about the plot, but it does start out very slow. If you do decide to read it, try to make it to chapter 30 at the very least.
This review sold me on the work: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42433/peculiar-soul?review=1148387#review-1148387

>>20324398
send this format over and I'll meme one too

>>20324473
is it still ongoing?

>>20324499
Recently finished a few months ago. I would recomend APGTE as well, haven't read TWI yet.

>>20324504
>>20324473
thanks lads, I'll go with that

>>20324496
https://tiermaker.com/create/wn-15079425

there are a few others
Solvos
Desolda
Super Minion
then others that might never end like beneath the dragoneye moons, azarinth healer, chrystalis, metaowrld chronicles

>>20324527
You can fix the column placement using the up and down arrows on the right of the edit mode

>>20324527
You can fix the column placement using the up and down arrows on the right while in edit mode

>>20324538
oh
kind of like meh being underneath unread though
forgettable and zero impact zone

>>20324509
Hope you like it anon

>>20322170
>>20322198
having since finished vol4, i actually find myself loving it even more. the conclusion to this was definitely one of the high points of the story so far. very strong finish.

>>20324603
“Rise, first among the priesthood of Night, and wake up.”

Cultivation novels are shit, and I'm pretty sure 90% ai generated.

>>20324662
>>20324658
>>20324644
well done, nerd.

resurrecting my question from the last thread: I'm looking for novels or series that portrait posthumans as total cunts to baseline ones, something akin to red rising, blindsight and illium
anything with scission of normals humans and post evolutionary ones

>>20324666
I like it when the protags find a girl to wife, get married and have children
bliss
meanwhile the westoid authors write nothing but interracial homosexual gender garbage

>>20324686
based

>>20324679
Warhammer 40k novels? I remember space marines and Custodes being mega cunts to basline humans

>>20324697
I've never read anything WH40k related, I did play two RTS games though, are the novels any good?
Where should I start?

>>20324815
>Where should I start?
Horus Rising probably, or maybe Eisenhorn. Posthumans being cunts to baseline is common in 40k novels, but it's usually not the focus of the story compared to something like Red Rising.
Or read up on a 40K faction that you find interesting, then delve into the books regarding that faction. For example, if you like Custodes, you read Watchers of the Throne and Master of Mankind. If you like Alpha Legion, you read Head of the Hydra and Legion. Anything by Dan Abnett or Chris Wraight is good.

>>20324679

Alastair Reynolds had the Conjoiners and ultranauts who in regards to baseline humanity were respectively forcibly converting and utterly detached for practical reasons

Davo's storyline in The Winds of Winter is going to end exactly like The Wicker Man isn't it? Think about it, he's going to a spooky island in search of a missing child.

Wheel of Time is incredibly good at making you hate women and spineless men. Or people that can't fucking listen to anyone. FUCK Perrin and his wife, man.

>>20324158
Said it before, but Will Wight tends to write good fights. I'd say Traveler's Gate has his best action, though it's very anime.

>>20324527
I"ve never heard of Forge of Destiny sell it to me.

>>20323994
Yes, I'm not African.

>>20323124
beric dondarrion vs the hound, what of it?

>>20325131
western take on cultivation novels
character driven with yuri undertones but nothing explicit
got a boner when a girl swallowed a whole fish. she had just caught it

>>20325131
not that anon but personally i didn't like what i've read of it. the MC wasn't particularly likeable or unlikeable, which made made her more fit to be a side character than a main one.

>>20325181
this is true
maybe i was just horny reading and wanting her roommate to rape her

i wanna fuck on a boat, like jolenta

I want to read books, but only one with male protagonists.

>>20323088
Are Xeelee novels even related story-wise?

>>20323408
Masters & Mages series by the same author. There are early firearms, but you've still got plate armoured dudes and swordfighting etc. I don't think its as good as the Traitor Son series, but its more of the same.

"Way of the Wolf" by EE Knight
Almost done with this first book in a 5-book series.
It was published in 2001.
It's about a post-apocalyptic world where vampires have taken over. But there's a twist, the vampires are extradimensional aliens. And they don't match the trope in many other ways.
It has horror and western elements.
Amazon say's it's mostly vampire horror, with some military science fiction thrown in.
Amazon rates it a 4.5
Goodreads rates it a 4
Lots of action. Most everything in the book seems original even though the book has a lot of well used tropes.
I'm liking it a lot.

>>20323949
I said NON-pornographic
I don't mind sexual activity in literature, but I'm not looking for something that exists purely to justify erotic fap fiction

>>20325474
AWOOGA!

>>20325310
they are, but chronological order is not the same as order of publication

I wish Xeelee: Redemption wasn't a letdown.

>>20325195
What's stopping you? I haven't read anything with a female protagonist in like 20 years.

>>20325474
booba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg86eQkdudI

Thoughts? I think it will be better than D&D's four seasons of original content but worse than seasons 1-3 of GoT.

Still pretty funny they got away with making the pro-incest faction (The Blacks) interracial and literally black, but I doubt they're going to use the terms blacks and greens in the show.

>>20325359
nice
I'm in the mood for some sci-fi vampires, just read echopraxia
also, accepting suggestions on sci fi vampires, space vampires are also welcome

>>20325310
Obliquely. There’s a lot more connection between the final two. But I think part of the depth of the series is his ability to craft these incredible worlds with characters you get attached to who then all die and their existence isn’t even known to the protagonists of the next book, but as the reader you know the star or black hole or wreck they’re looking at used to contain a teeming society. Read that shit

>>20323088
damn the first elric book was great.
even if the story makes not an ounce of sence

>ok i beat the big bad, got the girl, proved myself in the eyes of my people
>now i'm going to leave my kingdom and leave the big bad in charge
>what could possibly happen?

>>20325850
>>what could possibly happen?
The big bad will reign supreme?

>>20324180
>Volume 2 of TWI finished
>My biggest complain so far is how Pisces is being treated
>I hope this will be rectified soon enough
I'm happy that you are enjoying TWI anon, but have you by any chance binged the entire Wistram Days side plotline after reading the first chapter in V2?

>>20325565
I'll give it a shot. Although, Targaryens were never the most interesting part of the books for me. I would much rather get a Stark history book. Cooler setting, cooler culture, cooler powers.

I've completely given up any hope in modern film/TV producers. So I'm expecting this to be terrible, just like everything else that's come out in the last decade. But I'll give it an honest chance to sway me.

>>20325875
Wait, am I supposed to do that?
I'm just reading everything as it appears, same with the Antinium Wars etc

>>20325874
I mean Elric is canon wis 2 but holy shit

>>20324180
I need to watch that anime

>>20325939
>Wait, am I supposed to do that?
>I'm just reading everything as it appears, same with the Antinium Wars etc

No, you aren't supposed to do that, just asking. Keep reading anon.

>>20324815
>are the novels any good?
no, it's YA trash with 0 prose.

>>20323988
>I consume around 1000 pages per day
either you have no life whatsoever or speedread the shit out of everything

>>20323354
I'm reading the recent sequel to the 9/10 God's Demon. The Heart of Darkness.
Even after nearly 15 years, Barlowe still can write a mean epic.

I just read Elric and was surprised about how well the prose managed. There's some kinks ie badly placed dialogue exchanges but otherwise I didn't get bored at any point in the story.

>>20325991
I mean, it's pretty easy to tell they had something going on but they had some big fall out, probably due to his pursue of knowledge and the whole faction thing in the school, probably, if that's what you were wondering
But yeah, I'm really looking forward to the next chapters from that plotline, magic school settings are the epitome of kino

>>20323988
>Thanks to the anon who recommended it,
NP. It had a little girl protag as you wished. If you wanted lewd smut you should have asked.
Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop.

>>20326105
on chapter 317
when does it get good?

>>20326026
Heart of Hell, not Heart of Darkness. It's kino, but I really want Barlowe to finish his fucking trilogy, it's rare to see an atheist with such a fine and profound grasp of Christian theology and eschatology.

>>20324398
>>20324527
Sell me on Re-monarch and A Journey of Black and Red

>>20326122
A journey of black and red is vampire kino set in early america
from writing style to the history it references and the characters, all is pretty good. Probably the only interesting bit of media i've consumed on vampires outside of Anne Rice
the only meme part is that vampires are above racism

>>20324858
i read the eisenhorn triology and i can confirm that this >>20326001
is 70% correct. if it starts to bore you drop it instantly because it doesn't get better

>>20326118
>It's rare to see an atheist with such a fine and profound grasp of Christian theology and eschatology.
Fairly certain he just read paradise lost, inferno and then had an autistic spec evo fit about a hell civilization would be like.

>>20326142
It's not that YA stuff is bad per se, but you must really like the setting or chars because reading it for reading's sake will give you an aneurysm
I'm a big Star Wars fan but reading through the novels is literally painful.

>>20326150
Nah dude, he read the bible, probably did some serious research; some of those demon names appear exclusively in the Old and New Testaments or the Jewish apocrypha. Nobody can pull the Mesopotamian cultural artifact of Lilith's aspect "Ardat-Lili" out of a surface-level Hollywood discourse on demonology, or portray Divine influence and appearance as the elusively terrifying force it is going by the banal sunshine and happiness American Protestant Santa Claus version of Heaven.

>>20326202
>he read the bible
i don't recall demonology being considered important in the bible.

It also takes some liberties ie lucy's rebellion happens after humanity. first to be exiled where the watchers of the dead sea scrolls, then the pagan angels posing as gods, then lucy's crew.

> some of those demon names appear exclusively in the Old and New Testaments or the Jewish apocrypha.
God's Demon is from 2004. Semjaza was already an anime character by then m8. People have been digging gnostic myth for scary interpretations of god a chunk of the 90s already.

It's very much a creole work that mixed and matches late medieval european christianity with archeological interpretations of roman era levantine writings (dead sea, the less drug addled side of gnosticism, etc).

I supposed it's what makes it good. He's pretty much the first guy to take dead sea mythology in all it's seriousness instead of a namedrop or some irl metaphor for a urban-fantasy work (looking at you, vtm).

>>20326105
Chapter 1

>>20326113
Chapter 1

>>20326274
hmmm nah

Has anyone listened to this series? It's kinda decent but I'm only on episode 4.

>>20323401
Yeah I can barely watch a whole movie anymore. Sometimes I manage it with some breaks, sometimes I just lose interest halfway through.

>>20326282
Based name on the left

>>20324232
>learn how to use search engines
One shouldnt have to use a fucking search engine to understand a post

>>20326282
Two roasties, a coomer and a nigger meet in space...

>>20324180
TWI means what? full name pls
>>20324199
i shall seal the heavens full series for free on kindle unlimited, looks like i have something new to read

>>20326369
The Wandering Inn
Pretty comfy webnovel

>>20326105

>>20326373
sadly is not free the price is not high, maybe i will buy later ty anon

>>20326384
You can read the whole thing on the author's page
https://wanderinginn.com/

So what are some webnovels that aren't self-insert wish fulfillment shit?

>>20326362
So the coffee guy will steal the two women while the coomer watches?

>>20326384
>doesn't know how to pirate Ebooks in 2022
>first stickied post on /lit/ tells you how to pirate books

>>20326407
Nothing against those who pirate, but games / books I usually like to buy / read for free if it's available on prime etc, since it's something I like I prefer to support

music movie anime or any other shit I pirate without problems

>>20326402
Worm probably, unless you're a depressed masochist

>>20326402
worm probably, unless you're a tranny posting in blacked threads

>>20326407
>newfags
>lurking
I wish.

>>20326380
When I was at uni there was an Asian chick that openly read these. They're fully illustrated, and she talked about them all the time.

>>20326407
>>20326450
retards

>>20326464
>an Asian chick
Makes sense, that's the target demographic after all

>>20326113
>>20326278
It never gets good, just stop reading it.

>>20326422
>>20326438
>superheroes
I see. Not really my thing, but thanks. Anything else?

>>20326491
Honestly, I don't think the majority of the webnovels posted in this thread are self insert wish fulfillment
just pick one that isn't the perfect run

>>20326491
A Practical Guide to Evil, Paranoid Mage, Journey of Black and Red, The Gods are Bastards, Twig, Pact, Peculiar Soul, The Iron Teeth

>>20325565
It's going to be woke garbage, women are going to be the target audience, and simps are going to pretend it's good in hopes of pleasing women.

>>20326471

>>20325565
Looks like it might be worth the effort to sit down and pirate

is the warhammer 40k and age of sigmar novels a good read?

>>20326497
Even the ones with nothing protagonists seem more like "author had cool ideas for world and story stuff and just threw a generic proactive protagonist in".

>>20326598
How much do you know about 40K and Age of Sigmar? The less you know about the lore and shit the more gatekept you are going to be from certain books and series, or else it's going to be confusing and disorientating to read.

>>20326598
40K is the only franchise I am happy to be seeing taken over by trannies and shit like that, because I've spent years seeing it pasted everywhere and will be glad to see it gone.

>>20326613
What's a good "entry-level" 40k thing to read? I've heard good stuff about Ciaphas Cain, but I know that's also pretty tonally different from 40k as a whole.

>>20326619
kill yourself
>>20326613
i like orkz
'ate umiez

>>20326464
So did you talk back to her about Reverend Insanity?

>>20326636
No, why would I talk about that garbage webnovel?

>>20326622
Xenos (Eisenhorn) probably, Ciaphas Cain got old and grating for me by the third book.
The unequivocal best 40k books are probably Master of Mankind, Betrayer, Fire Caste, The Infinite and the Divine, The Emperor’s Legion, Night Lords Trilogy, Legion, and Head of the Hydra. I probably missed a few.

>>20326611
>Even the ones with nothing protagonists
The protagonists that start off essentially a blank slate and aren't particularly interesting as they have very little character growth?
The majority of the webnovels mentioned in this thread don't suffer from that.

>>20326026
That scene at the beginning of Gods Demon where they’re in the throne room and the groaning skins hanging the ceiling is so fucking good. I think it’s when one of the big demons is introduced, beezlebub maybe?

>>20326622
>>20326651

>>20326657
yeah, beezy the main antag.
pulls no punches, that one

>>20326642
>No, why would I talk about that garbage webnovel?

>>20326654
I've admittedly only read a few, and the only one that really fits that is Defiance of the Fall. Zac isn't a particularly interesting character, I couldn't really place a single character trait of his.

>>20326709
Thoughts on 步天歌?

>>20326752
I agree.
Ended up skipping dialogue out of boredom and eventually dropping it

>>20326752
Try A Practical Guide to Evil, my favorite part of it was the main character

>>20326753
idk what it is

>>20323088
I’m looking for something that’s a crossover between epic fantasy and S&S, similar to the Witcher. Obviously no femoid MC or other pozzed shit

>>20326775
There's a lot of webnovels I keep meaning to catch up on, and I've been sidetracked by Dungeon Crawler Carl and holy hell what a difference it makes to have a protagonist being a character. I'll probably look into APGTE after I finish this though.

>>20326842
>Obviously no femoid MC or other pozzed shit
The Darkness That Comes Before by King Bakker (ruler supreme)

>>20326883
>cuckoldry
>faggotry
No thanks

>>20326842
I have just the series for you. The protagonist is a witch and local mafia boss, best friends with the local dark lord, his bloodthirsty warrior sister, and their necromancer mentor. He is also happily married to the cute assassin that was once sent to kill him.

>>20326941
Interesting, is that the first book on the series?

>>20325565
why is the Sea Snake black? wtf?

>>20327013
I think the more important question is why the white haired and purple eyed people are now niggers

>>20327029
is this just some shitty diversity casting? because in the case of the Dance of the Dragons, the character appearance is actually integral to the plot. You can't even really try to claim that he has Summer Islander blood since the Velaryons are also pretty inbred and also have that classic Valyrian look. The show is going to be a disaster

I swear to God if the MC's magic sword divorces him I will end this author.

>>20326977
Yeah. There are quite a few, as you can see here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Brust#Vlad_Taltos

I haven't read anything after Jhegaala, though it was only the wait that made me drop the series.

>>20327080
>The show is going to be a disaster
For hardcore fans, but braindead normies will eat it up like they did seasons 5-8 of GOT, especially now that the blacks are literally black and Gurm is too much of a greedy pussy to do anything about it

Which Sanderson book should I start with?
I tried Mistborn because it seemed the default choice, but my interest died already by the first chapter...

>>20327157
If you don't like his writing you should move on to something else. Plenty of other authors to choose from.

>>20327157
All his books are like Mistborn, some actually worse. Quit while you’re ahead

>>20327091
What're you reading?

>>20327184
Weapons and Wielders 3.

>>20327157
After reading Mistborn 1-3 I couldn't get through the first two prologues of Way of Kings

>>20327197
Had a suspicion. I mean it's a foregone conclusion she either dies or leaves because present him doesn't have her anymore.

>>20327227
Well if book one of AA is any guide she and the dragon will decide they're lesbians 2/3 of the way through the series and run off together.

>>20326404
>coffee guy
The state of lit.

>>20327414
It's been pretty clearly stated that they're closer to sisters. Rowe doesn't seem to backwalk any stated relationships like that (it's a thinner line with Corin, admittedly, because you sort of naturally assume when he says he's not really into people, he's just not into people but then the second book has him mention "Okay I guess being physically attracted to somebody and being just into them is different", which feels like it should've been the stance earlier on).

>>20326842
David Gemmell's Drenai series.
T.C. Rypel's Gonji series.

whatd a good science fiction book for casual fiction readers?

>>20327520
too like the lightning

>>20327520
unironically, Red Rising

I’m not going to read any more fantasy, everything is just so shit compared to LOTR. Historical fiction once again proves the superior genre

>>20327768
Have you tried the bigger LOTR knockoffs like Thomas Covenant?

English webnovels, really guys? Atleast get some taste and read the much MUCH better novels at novelupdates.com, I mean what kind of low-life would spend their time on word salad 10,000 word minimum chapters all just for a tiny bit of guilty pleasure? Instead go read some machine translated light novels that take a sentence to do what some of these retards take a chapter to say. Then you'll be able to get your guilty pleasure without dying of old age before clicking the light-blue "next chapter" button on royalroad.com.

>>20323088
Are there any fantasy books in which the protagonist just seeks to gain power and control over a kingdom/empire instead of defeating an existential evil?

>>20325090
Truth

People get immersed reading royal road web novel stuff reading on their laptop? It's a cool idea but I hate the format. I read the first chapter of worm and can't imagine dedicating myself to the grind reading on a laptop/computer monitor.

>>20324527
Why the fuck isn’t cradle on here? It’s better than all this shit

>>20327887
I used to use a Calibre plugin that'd generate an epub and read it on my ebook
I think you could make it sync too so you could get updated versions if a new chapter came out etc

>>20327541
>>20327610
Thanks homies

>>20327887
I see a surface 3 for $160 on ebay.

>>20327898
what is the plugin?

>>20327887
The key is to make the text black on white and get the zoom level correct, inverted/dark mode with small text will murder your eyes after a few minutes of reading.
Also learn to use the pgdn/pgup keys for their intended purpose, it makes a huge difference.
And a laptop will probably kill you yes, the posture required is terrible. Either use a desktop monitor at the proper height, lay down with a pillow under your head and the laptop on your chest, or read on a cellphone or tablet(it's surprisingly pretty good aside from the battery life issues).

>>20327907
I'm pretty sure it was this, FanFicFare
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259221
https://github.com/JimmXinu/FanFicFare

>>20327887
Some Royal Road authors format their works to stylize them. Using dark mode helps as well. But yeah, like 99% of the works on there are just walls of text.

>>20327889
It's not a webnovel

>>20327887
I haven't read a (physical) book in 20 years

>>20327889
That's a webnovel tierlist, I know Will Wight has made the books free on Amazon a few times, but Cradle was never a webnovel, it was always self-pub

>>20323088
Are there any fantasy books in which the protagonist just seeks to gain power and control over a kingdom/empire instead of defeating an existential evil?

>>20326598
40k stuff is fine. Some of the best tie-in fiction out there.

>>20327934
>the protagonist just seeks to gain power and control over a kingdom/empire instead of defeating an existential evil?
Would you care if the kingdom power/control thing consisted of 90% of the book, and the last 10% is the existential evil defeating?

>>20327968
I don’t mind, but I already know you’re going to recommend ASOIAF

>>20327979
Then read ASOIAF if you already knew the answer.

>>20327917
Wow. It worked. Thank you anon

>>20327979
I was going to recomend a webnovel, but I don't know if you're into that sort of medium. It's like 2.5 million words long and the big bad evil doesn't really come into play for most of the webnovel. It's more about the protagonist dealing with smaller threats and consolidating power.

>>20327992
Nothing wrong with webnovels, I could always just load it onto my e-reader

>>20327986
There's also a 3rd part Calibre plugin called DeDRM, it lets you strip the DRM of awz3 files from Amazon and convert them to epubs. So you can buy a digital book on Amazon, download it to your computer(Kindle), run it through the plugin, download the book to your PC, then instantly refund it on Amazon. This is how sites like Libgen and B-ok get their Ebooks.

>>20328010
A Practical Guide to Evil, it just finished a few months ago

>>20328010
I've never used this but someone linked it to me last year
some kinda a app
https://github.com/LagradOst/QuickNovel

>>20328028
Thanks anon

>>20328022
Oh yeah I’ve seen that posted here for awhile, never bothered to look into it though. ASOIAF is 2 million words so far so 2.5 million doesn’t seem that excessive

>>20328045
It's great, ignore people who call it YA(includes the authors own blog). It stops being YA before the first 50,000 words.

>>20328045
Webnovelists and idiots like GRRM need to learn to cut the shit and tell a concise story.

>>20328208
where does Revelation Space fit in here

>>20328208
GRRM just proudly announced a few days ago that Winds of Winter is going to be even longer than any of the previous books.

>>20328264
That’s bad and he should feel bad.

Children of Time worth starting?

>>20328296
Read it and find out.

>>20328264
GERM knows that retards are easily impressed with long books and series. It makes them feel smarter for having read them.

>>20328208
I think it strange that Outlander is missing from this list. Like it or not, it's an extremely wordy and culturally relevant part of the fantasy genre.

>>20328264
Based, wordlets will seethe

>>20328376
See: >>20328422

>>20328208
does that reflect on the works quality though? I mean does TWI's world feel more fleshed out compared to other stuff in that list?

>>20328431
>t. has the attention span of a goldfish
It’s alright junior, keep on reading your YA novellas in your safe space

>>20323948
I downloaded all the books on pdf and read them on my comfy oasis.

Thoughts?

>>20328208
based discworld

Lol you couldn’t even write a comeback, feels good to shit on retards

>>20328458
>It's a shit series for elementary kids. I don't give a shit.

>>20328208
Why should they?
I don't like concise stories
Concise stories are anti-immersion

>>20328458
the light haired boy is cute :3

>>20326001
Agreed for the most part. I quite enjoy the
peter fehervari dark coil series tho

>>20326491
Worm isn't capeshit so much as a novelized depiction of cartel warfare.

>>20328458
You should've outgrown Riordan a decade ago, why should I care about the casting

It appears my superiority has led to some controversy

>>20328482
It does become capeshit later on though

>>20328208
>>20328473
>Concise stories are anti-immersion
I really find myself agreeing with this as of late, when it comes to fantasy I do not want something that I can finish in a week or two, especially if I enjoy the world and characters, things like TWI are great precisely due to their lengths, you really feel a sense of belonging to the world you're reading through after a period of time.
I think it's the reason why most sci-fi & fantasy fans go look at fanfics or expanded lore once they finished a series, they just crave more of that world and 5 or 6 books are certainly not enough to deliver that to them.

>>20328482
WTF? Its 100% capeshit.

Whatever happened to the Bakkerposter? He was annoying but now the thread feels empty and soulless without him

>>20328478
I liked the Emperor's Legion, felt like as close to accurate of a depiction of a Custode's thoughts as possible. Including all the pride and autism that comes with being a Custode.

>>20323088
I know people say Joe Abercrombie is a grimdark edgelord but his universe is one of the few that seems appealing to me

>>20326009
>>either you have no life whatsoever or speedread the shit out of everything

Both desu. I do audiobooks at 3-4x speed. I wake up, put ear buds in, take shower with ear buds in (more or less water proof but I do go through like 4 sets a year). Drive to work with ear buds in, work job with ear buds in 90% of the time. Go home with ear buds in. Swap them out for headphones to catch up on my 4chans and youtubes for a bit (at 2.5-3.5x speed). For longer posts I use a read aloud plugin I have hotkeyed. I'll be reading one post while listening to another, all the while looking for new books to throw in the queue. Then when I'm bored of that I take off headphones and sometimes read on a physical or kindle book or I just put ear buds back in and relax or work out before going to bed. I really don't mind text to speech books, actually sometimes if the naration is shit on an audio book but I like the story I will switch to a text to speech version. I have a 6 inch kindle fire I pamper because I like it's text to speech. My kindle paperwhite has an absolutely insufferable text to speech mode for the blind and no way to get the original text to speech narration enabled. The kindle fire fits in my cargo pants but sometimes I will leave it at home recording books into audacity on my computer so I can just have it as an MP3.

Today I read the first two thirds of Fimbulwinter before being bored with it and moving on to Retired S Ranked Adventure read book one and am on chapter 22 of book two. I tried Fimbulwinter because I liked another book the author wrote but this series is unreadably bad and that's coming from a guy who will just plow through some of the worst shit out there.

I intermittent fast and only eat lunch on workdays.

I have three sets of working Bluetooth earbuds at all times, one is at home charging, I swap it out when I do my channing one is in the car and the other is on me.

Philips Performance PN402BK I legit get a consistent 12 hours of playback out of the.
Showering really fucks up the microphone, they claim IPX4 waterproof but never charge after showering it will fuck up the charge port, let it dry with the flap open a couple hours first and then it's fine.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk?hl=en

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/read-aloud-a-text-to-spee/hdhinadidafjejdhmfkjgnolgimiaplp?hl=en

>>20328486
asoiaf unironically should have transitioned into a webnovel. Instead of planning for his shit to fit in a book, he could have just written whatever the fuck he wanted and hired an editing team to reel him in when necessary. He has all the money in the world, it's obviously not his motivation for writing now.

>>20328208
Who the fuck measures by word count? Page count is a much better metric

>>20324232
I will only take you seriously if you are posting from a computer on which you have manually installed Gentoo from source. Otherwise your a fraudulent gatekeeping elitists faggot and should die.

>>20325359
>But there's a twist, the vampires are extradimensional aliens.

The Kurtherian Gambit plagiarized this and shat out 21+ books from the idea. Not a bad series if you're out of shit to read.

>>20328535
>gurm
>giving away his work for free
Lol

>>20328502
He fell into a dark pit of depression and despair, he lost the will to shitpost and got addicted to pozzed porn, which made him hate himself more, and that led to self destructive behavior, he pozzed his own self into watching more pozzed porn, he watches it all day and has little time to shitpost, he lurks and posts occasionally but his old passion faded.

>>20328570
Sanderson got $40M, I can only imagine what a Gurm kickstarter or patreon would look like

>>20328534

>>20328551
No it's not. Page count is an awful metric. There is far to much variance due to things like page size, text size, formatting, etc.

>>20328595
Pages are numbered for a reason, words aren’t
Cope

>>20327157
I liked The Stormlight Archive quite a bit more than mist. But even it got boring eventually. Really should have been only three books long. You can shit up a good series by milking it too much.

>>20328551
Industry itself? Word count is the only count that matters, everything else is subject to publication.

>>20328573
That’s unfortunate, I hope he makes a triumphant return from his despair

>>20328600
Because of ease. Page count is absolutely useless for comparing the lengths of novels.

>>20328607
See
>>20328600

>>20328612
Wrong post?

>>20328607
He will, sooner or later, the infamous bakkerposter will rise from the deep dark pit of despair and he will re-conquer /sffg/ and take back his beloved Bakker general, the pozzed scars will heal with time and his limp phallus will rise again, hard and curved towards the sky, at that triumphant moment, he will finally reign supreme.

>>20328208
No, I need more content. I want the dataset of before and after editing to paired down books so I can run it though an AI to inflate books back to a decent size.

>>20328600
if you change font or margin size or line spacing a miniscule amount the page count can jump hundreds of pages. it's shit. what's wrong w/ word count? it's the best.

>Reading 2nd Red Rising Book (Golden Son)
>Darrow allies with a political rival to face a common enemy's fleet
>hijacks enemy flagship, winning the battle, uses it to blow up political rival's shipyards, blames it on enemy admiral and that he couldn't "hijack the ship in time"
kino

Do you guys think Meina Gladstone was named after Gladstone Gander from the Donald duck comics

>>20327157
Im going through Elantris now
Its quite enjoyable
Its basically about a walled off city, and the politics surrounding it, of people infected by a mysterious magical disease
When people get it, they are sent into the city for quarantine
The disease disfigures the people, makes them semi-immortal and causes them to go insane with time

How many books you guys usually read per year? i had 9 books finished in less than 1 month and then stopped reading for 5 months because i was "too busy"

Do you have a book goal per year?

>>20328956
I can usually blast through a book a day. The bigger issue is simple lack of content.

>>20328956
usually?
last time I read books I finished like near 110 or something
but then I'd read like 5 books after that
so average 50 books per year.

>>20328956
there are weeks where I read 4 books at once and others where I barely read 20 pages

>>20328959
same, my problem is choosing what to read next
>>20328961
im trying to have a "goal" to read so i read more and stop wasting my time playing games all night

>>20328956
Im at a pace of 50 a year now, with my goal to eventually reach into the 200s
I was inspired to read more after watching a youtube video of this autistic nigga reviewing a game, casually mentioning that he had read about 270 something books the previous year, including re-reading Neuromancer 3-4 times

>>20328976
Just read, not that hard.

>>20328990
thats true

Brienne's Chapters are great and are easily the most Kino thing on a feast of crows outside of Cersei and the iron born. I don’t know why this General hates it.

>>20329025
>Brienne's Chapters
The broken men monologue is perhaps the best thing ever written.

>>20328624
>content
I can't think of a more soulless corporate term than this. I know we're all genrefags here but literature is still supposed to be a form of art.

>>20329071
>but literature is still supposed to be a form of art.
The only fantasy that was every literature was written Tolkien. Everything else is just corporate

>>20328956
around 10-15 or so

>>20329071
calling a term you dislike soulless or whatever other buzzwords you want doesn't make it suddenly bad, and neither of you >>20329075 are an authority of what is and isn't art, if you think all literature after Tolkien isn't art then you can just leave the threads and read LOTR on repeat until the day you die, but obviously you won't, because as pretentious as you are you still enjoy most of what's being discussed here, so get off your high horse.

>>20329087
Lord of the rings is art though.

>>20323988
>Nobody photoshopped "waif" into "waifu"
Man, are you guys so humourless, or am I too simple?

am I the only one who reads picrel?

>>20329118
Yes

>>20328534
Please transition to headphones while you are young before you irrevocably damage your hearing by wearing ear buds and blasting noise directly into your ear canals.

>>20329126
this, earbuds should unironically be banned

>>20329126
>>20329134
headphones gave me a headphone dent

>>20326009
I think he's lying, I did once reach 1 000 pages in a day but there is no way anyone could keep up this pace every single day, it'll take him his whole day just reading nonstop.
your brain will be fried by the 4 000 pages mark

>>20329140
that's because you're buying small cheaply made ones there are plenty of options that you barely feel resting on your head for the entire day.
invest on some nice headphones and stop using earbuds, the latter will ruin your ears, unless you want to develop tinnitus by the age of 35 I suggest you avoid them.

>>20328534
You're retarded. Just find a different hobby if you're consuming literature solely to pad your read book count by going to extreme measures like this to keep it up, holy shit.

>>20328956
By wordcount I'd say ~100k a day, so half a book to a book a day. If books were a reasonable length I'd be finishing ~400 a year, but everything I'm reading is like a billion words long and/or released in a trickle of 1.5k words a day so actually I haven't finished a book in years unless you count dropping ones after losing interest, in which case it's anywhere from ~10(read at least 100k words) to ~1000(didn't make it through the first chapter).

>>20329200
You don't have to lie to impress people here, anon.

>>20329203
I'm not kidding or exaggerating, I even downplayed it a little.
Every day for the last three days I read ~100 chapters of a webnovel with each chapter being from 1100 to 1400 words, totalling ~125,000 words a day.
That's not even a lot, I've read more in a single "day" if you count times I've stayed up more than 24 hours.
Worst case was Worm, ~2 million words and I read it in 4 days. Brain felt like burnt rubber afterwards and the entire thing is more of a hazy fever dream than a solid memory, but I did it.
I'm not even a fast reader, I timed myself once and it was ~250-300 words per minute, which is about one page per minute. I just have a solid reading-trance and a lot of free time.

>>20329232
Anon, no one is going to believe you. Just stop pretending already.

>>20329235
I don't get it, isn't 250wpm really slow?
Are you guys just reading like 1 hour a day?
I'm doing like 8-10 hours at a time.

>>20329232
Anon, unless you have no life, no one is going to believe this you know that right?

>>20329235
>>20329239
NTA but it's entirely possible, I did reach those numbers once, it's not sustainable obviously since you'll be spending your entire day glued to whatever you're reading and it does tire your eyes but it's still possible.

>>20329240
Maybe on a weekend, but during weekdays? Again, unless he has no life and no job whatsoever, or is underage, no one's is going to believe him.

>>20329240
>It's not sustainable
>tire your eyes
I second this, I remember developing huge eye bags one time when I binged a series for pretty much a week straight

>>20328956
80+ a year for the nearly 4 years I have been tracking my habits. If you include manga and visual novels then easily over 100 books. It all depends on how many words you consider a chapter and how many chapters a book.

>muh speedreading autism
Don't care, I immerse myself in the books I read and visualize everything vividly by subvocalizing. ADHD does not impress me.

>>20329239
>>20329243
People here have lives? Why?
I don't even use all my time reading, I do other stuff too.

>>20329240
I think reading is a muscle, the more you do it the greater your endurance. I mean even when I'm not reading actual books I'm on here reading posts, is there really a difference?

>>20328956
Having a reading goal is retarded, you should only read when you want to and when you're in the mood. Forcing yourself to continue reading something and without breaks can retroactively sour past reading experiences, not even mentioning the burnout you can get.

Enough prodding the bloghomo attention whore, faggots. Give me something fast-paced to read.

>>20329255
read this >>20329118

>>20329255
No, fuck off.

>>20329251
>I don't even use all my time reading, I do other stuff too.
Doubt it, just stop lying already.

>>20329255
Cradle and Red Rising come to mind, super bingeable

>>20329256
Sell it to me, looks like another dogshit self-insert power fantasy like Solo Leveling and the Korean time travel archmage shit

>>20329271
That’s because it is.

>>20326105
How much longer are you going to keep shilling this garbage?

>>20329272
I'm gonna have to pass then, I grew out of that shit years ago

>>20329275
Wouldn’t fault you for it.

>>20329255
Demon Chains

Anyone got a good "I was reincarnated as the villain/villainess" story with decent writing and character work? As in, reality doesn't bend for the protagonist, they don't get cheat-code powers or superhuman charisma.

>>20329292
No, just I was reincarnated as the villain/villainess already

>>20329292
You gave me an idea for a Bastion/Bakarina crossover, but I don't think it'd be any good.

how many days would it take me to read TWI from start to finish if I spent like 2 hours a day on it realistically speaking?

>>20329302
Have you tried reading it to find out?

>>20329304
I swear you're by far the worst faggot on this general, you think you're being all witty by telling people to "read it and find out" at every turn? you're not, stop making low effort replies you cum slurping faggot, either answer the question or shut the fuck up.

>>20329302
Less than half a year at 500 wpm, if my math is right.

>>20329309
He’s got a point, just read it, anon.

>>20329302
About a full year of reading if you read at the average 250 wpm

>>20329311
thanks anon
>>20329312
he replies with that to every question in these threads, just check the archives, his autism is really annoying

>>20329298
Just write it but with original characters, even if it's just a fun little experiment. Every writer had to start somewhere.

>>20329302
>>20329315
The wondering Inn is free to read. You can quite honestly read the first volume to see how long it takes you to finish and make a reasonable estimate. So yes, he’s right. Just read it and find out instead of expecting others to do it for you.

>>20329315
>he replies with that to every question in these threads, just check the archives, his autism is really annoying
So, he's telling people to read the books instead of wasting time making posts here, what's the issue?

>>20329317
No. I did start writing a Harry Potter/Bakarina fanfic once though.

>>20329113
You’re too simple, anon.

Gotta say, these past few threads have been unbelievable in that people are actually discussing books. What happened.

>>20329349
>What happened.
people started to discuss books

Sandersoi is sad
Bakker is his new dad
Sandersoi screams
Bakker sprays his cream

>>20329349
Can I get a qrd, I've only been here for like the past 10 threads

>>20329370
This general was unusable before, that's all you need to know.

>>20329349
I'm responsible for the improvement in quality, I've been away reading TWI for the past few years, I now have come once again to ask for your reccs

Metro 2033 is a good post-apocalypse book. What is it with Russians writing decent post-apocalypse books?

>>20329383
Forgot the image.

>>20329383
Collapse of the Soviet Union (felt like the end of the world for the average Russian) living under the constant threat of nuclear war under poor material conditions, amd all of Russian history in general

>>20329364
Animefags have been reporting every bakkerpost and every bakkerpost has been deleted. Even though it seems people are discussing books its mostly the cradlefags trying to force garbage on unsuspecting victims. No good books are actually being discussed.

>>20329401
But even before the collapse they were writing good stories.

>>20329410
Serfdom pre revolution was rough, and they fought a war for their survival as a Slavic people against the Nazis. 20 million dead, an entire lost generation. Actual cultural trauma. I would not have wanted to be a Russian or Chinese peasant between 1800-1990

>>20329383
Read Roadside picnic next.

>>20329402
>No good books are actually being discussed.
>Everything in the S Tier is 20+ years old
Gee, I wonder why there's little discussion.
Welcome to the age of the zoom-zoom anon, it's here to stay.

>>20329425
>Roadside picnic
I was going to read that next after I finish Metro 2033

>>20329434
You’re going to enjoy it.

New thread
>>20329453

>>20328534
>I do audiobooks at 3-4x speed.
i can barely understand anything at x3, what the fuck