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20325477 No.20325477 [Reply] [Original]

Here's my antinatalism thesis. Critique at will:

I believe in the fact considering a free sexual marketplace like the liberal world of the present, women will not be worth the investment it takes to acquire them. Because all things rendered equal, they only want the best male possible and would rather be single if that is not the case. You can overcome this hypergamy with hard work but in the end it's a sham. You are simply fooling her into thinking you are valuable. Make no mistake, this is not inherent to women, trannies and employers behave the same way. Someone with high value and power who has the power to decline will always do this to their clients. But while an employer can hire multiple people while monogamous trannies and women can only have one partner. Depriving a child of their mother causes their life to be sabotaged and therefore if women aren't worth it, neither are children.

So far as I can tell for the audience there are two possibilities: Either God exists or He does not.

>God exists
This means there is a heaven and a hell. Choosing to create a life is choosing to bring another soul (without their consent) into the game of either going to heaven (eternal pleasure) or going to hell (eternal torment). Instead of allowing that soul to remain in non-existence, you are forcing it into a game with the highest stakes imaginable. To illustrate this (like a retard) consider the following scenario:
>There is a magical crosswalk where, should you successfully cross to the other side, you will be given $1,000,000,000. However, there is an UNKNOWN chance that a car will come whipping by and hit you causing you to die in the most painful way possible. Would you consider it to be moral to FORCE someone else (without their consent) to cross this magical sidewalk instead of allowing them to remain on one side (where they won't ever get the money but they also won't be hit by the car)? This is my (retarded) metaphor for creating life. Is it moral to "bring someone off the bench" (the bench of non-existence) into the game of going to hell or going to heaven?
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>> No.20325483

>>20325477
0 pussy take

>> No.20325493

>>20325477
I have never met an anti natalist who followed through with their ideology and offed themselves. Can you please be the first?

>> No.20325494

>>20325477
loser spotted

>> No.20325509

>>20325493
>Infertile people can't have kids
>So they should kill themselves

>> No.20325521

>>20325477
>(1/2)
Post the rest, incel

>> No.20325541

>>20325477
>to create a life is choosing to bring another soul (without their consent)
Non-existent beings cannot consent BECAUSE THEY DO NOT EXIST
Also, have you considered that the abrahamic god explicitly orders humans to have children?

>> No.20325544

>>20325509
(You)

>> No.20325546

>>20325509
>life is not worth living xddd
>no I wont end it

>> No.20325566
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20325566

>>20325477
I'll bet anti-natalist posters are as into vore as they are off topic

>> No.20325591

>>20325477
>monogamous trannies and women can only have one partner.
??? I dont think so

Men are happy to spend their life competing for women. this is not an atheist thing.

this competition is literally the heart of any society.
Men even love more to compete for women in atheism because the jewish shows like how i met your whore mom where the crowd cheers for the gay actor competing for whores lol

Women will always always always sit at the top of the sex market, and men wil always like it.
Over thousands of years men have developed a neurotic narrative where somehow they are the stronger sex for putting their energy into pleasing women and the ruling class. Men are the one talking about hoonor and how seducing women is awesome. Again even fucking Casanova took pride into a being free dildo to whores.

The day men stop putting women on a pedestal is the day society dies forever. And normies are fucking obsessed with living, with ''''''''''''transmitting genes'''''''''''like any atheist NPC keep saying, with building crap to fill up their lives with.
And women love to sit on the top of the sex market. Women get free easy life just by existing. That's how fucking insane their life full of privileges is. And women will never ever let this go.
Even in the apocalyptic days that beta cucks keep dreaming about and somehow they survive thanks to all their crappy survivalist skills they learn in atheism, they fancy themselves as providers to women lol. They literally would give lots of free shit to women, from all the hoarding they had done before the apocalypse. All of this because of vagina , fucking lel.

You even had 2 fucking top military guys from rome to fight over the egyptian roastie known as cleopatra. that's 2000 years before atheists took power. That's how pathetic military guys are. And how men in general are pussyslaves and wageslaves.

>> No.20325783

>>20325546
>Elden ring isn't worth playing bros, i just finished it and got all the achievements but I think damage in the endgame was overtuned
>WHY DON'T YOU BREAK YOUR COPY OF ELDEN RING? FOLLOW YOUR IDEOLOGY AND BREAK THE DISK. HOW CAN YOU OWN THE GAME

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20325803

>>20325591
This
>2022
>still falling for the womeme

>> No.20325809

>>20325591
Your whole post is about chads enjoying the grind.
Yeah sure people like to grind for women but that doesn't mean everyone has to.

People are dropping out of the rat race now.

>> No.20325952

>>20325477
It amazes me how much your kind has the same determinist, antitheistic, anti-life worldviews. Nothing sticks out. That's why I've put upon myself to correct your paths

>> No.20325957

>>20325477
>(1/2)
Well? Are you going to finish or not

>> No.20325984

>>20325566
I love Hachikuji

>> No.20326015

>>20325591
>how i met your whore mom
KEK. I lost.

>> No.20326039

>>20325591
>You even had 2 fucking top military guys from rome to fight over the egyptian roastie known as cleopatra.
Now this is comedy gold.

>> No.20326046

>>20325591
>>20325803
Were women the real jews all along, bros?

>> No.20326138

>>20325477
the "autist manifesto"

>> No.20326154

>>20325483
it really does solve all problems desu

>> No.20326169

When will /lit/ accept the truth of nihilism and defeatism? Read terror management theory, look at the science behind the heat death of the universe. All of this is pointless strife. Sure you can cope and delude yourself all you want but we're all doomed for oblivion. Get out of the Nietzschean sandbox and stop being children. Accept defeat

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20326217

>> No.20326244

>>20326217
Lmao is this real?

>> No.20326479

>>20325477
>I believe in the fact considering a free sexual marketplace like the liberal world of the present, women will not be worth the investment it takes to acquire them
Come back when you are 18+. Hire a hooker or something. Too much semen retention and it will rise up to your head making you think and write stupid stuff like this --not to mention the evident post-masturbatory self-hatred in your text.

>>20325483
Also this.

>> No.20326517

>>20325493
Do you meet a lot of people who offed themselves you big retard?

>> No.20326554

>>20325591
based gene disrespecter

>> No.20326580

>>20325957
Just like op will never follow through with his ideology and take matters into his own hands, he will likewise never follow through on his initial post.

>> No.20326764

>>20326169
It's okay to fight battles you can win. What /lit/ doesn't know is that you're supposed to evade fights you cannot win. Like natalism

>> No.20326769

>>20326217
>suicidewatch link purple
Not tryna be mean, but... are you really in a position to judge here?

>> No.20326802

>>20325477
>>20325477

its amazing that incels made up a whole philosophy where they pretend as if they're against natalism, as if they have a choice to begin with.
ive never met a chad anti natalist, theyre all either communist losers who look like swine, or retarded basic bitch liberals

>This means there is a heaven and a hell. Choosing to create a life is choosing to bring another soul (without their consent) into the game of either going to heaven (eternal pleasure) or going to hell (eternal torment). Instead of allowing that soul to remain in non-existence, you are forcing it into a game with the highest stakes imaginable. To illustrate this (like a retard) consider the following scenario:


except thats wrong because you have free will, meaning that if you go to hell, you DESERVE to go to hell. If you go to heaven, you DESERVE to go to heaven. You adjusted your behavior in accordance to your morality which you've aligned with god. So no, my decision to have the kid and leave the possibility for them to enter hell is irrelevant, because if they eventually do enter hell, it means they deserved it.

>> No.20326825

>>20325591
>Women will always always always sit at the top of the sex market, and men wil always like it.

Men do not love competing for women, men love competing with men for things which they value BECAUSE subconsciously we compete for women. This does not put women on the top of the hierarchy because men will forever strive for a purpose, getting women is not a purpose. Anyone can get women nowadays if ur not ugly, i mean seriously, if you cant get laid in 2022 there is genuinely something wrong with you.

>> No.20326837

>>20325483
fpbp

>> No.20326856
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20326856

>>20326244
Yes, try it yourself

>> No.20326873

I'm college educated, have a good job, and have sex ama

>> No.20326880

>>20326802
Also, bear in mind that hell within the orthodox tradition is vastly different from hell within the Catholic/Protestant tradition

hell within the orthodox tradition is not a literal place where you burn for all eternity, but rather it is a metaphysical place in which you receive no love from god, however the reason that this is so devistating is that once you die, you finally get to witness gods unconditional love before being cast away - the magnitude of which is so great, that its unconceivable, the absence of which is so destructive that you will forever be within a eternal placfe of agony that you have no one but yourself to blame.

>> No.20326881

>>20326856
Been to Reddit like twice in my life (back in my teenage gayming years) but I agree with all those stances there except prolife

>> No.20326899

>>20326881
yikes

>> No.20326912

>>20326899
Enjoy wageslavery and used up whore wife, NPC

>> No.20326922

>>20326769
I didn't take the picture anon, but even if I had it doesn't say anything

>> No.20327294
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20327294

>>20326912
>>>https://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch/

>> No.20327321

>>20326880
So it's a hot hell versus a cold hell. Still the same stupid idea of eternal cosmic punishment for having wronged a volcano demon. Don't kid yourself.

>> No.20327599

>>20327321
>>20326802 <see this

>> No.20327633

>>20327599
When I said don't kid yourself, I wasn't referring to the natalism or anti-natalism positions but to the notion that Orthodox hell was a more salvageable concept than Catholic or Protestant hell, which is simply not true since all three are christcuck peasant wrangling methods.

>> No.20327636

>women will not be worth the investment it takes to acquire them.

Currently true, but not an antinatalist argument. It takes a miracle and a half to find a woman that doesn't have a massively inflated sense of self-worth, who isn't going to just die a cat lady, but miracles happen. I've seen happy married couples where the man was a real competent man, and the woman was a real humble woman.

Not very many, but I've seen them. Lots more men are being given the shit end of the life lottery, with failure effeminate fathers or no fathers, and so they just coast through life on welfare being degenerates and getting dangerously close to becoming troons, but you can dig yourself out of that hole and become a competent, masculine, real man that will eventually attract a humble, feminine, real woman.

Be thankful you have that option - women don't, I have literally never seen a ruined woman fix herself with age.