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20287544 No.20287544 [Reply] [Original]

what's the /lit/ concensus on Bataille?

>> No.20287552

Interesting and worth reading but sadly a lot of trannies and twitter/podcast type limp wrists like him misguidedly, so you have to ignore them

>> No.20287561

>>20287544
Degenerate but Chad

>> No.20287580

>>20287552
Unfortunately this

>> No.20287618

>>20287552
>twitter/podcast type limp wrists like him misguidedly
Wait, they do?

>> No.20287624

>>20287618
i think they think hes a critic of fascism and he thematizes transgression and other weird postdecadent aesthetics stuff and influenced foucault and foucault types so he must be some kind of cool tranny enabler you can reference

>> No.20287626

>>20287552
What is a good intro to him?

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>>20287544
/lit/ will become a Bataillean board
>>20287552
>>20287624
I wouldn't trust them to interpret anything correctly. If they like something that makes no obvious endorsement of them then it is a matter of delusion on their part. For instance, his criticism of fascism compares it to the early Islamic caliphate—obviously this is an unacceptable association for anyone who genuinely believes that western civilization will achieve some kind of social liberation by affirming all minorities. Comparing fascists (or neo-fascists) to Muslims building a stateless army to seize power around an idea... is that something they would ever say? It is unlikely their reading of him is serious.
>>20287626
You could start with the first volume of The Accursed Share. I would then read most of his other non-fiction before doing the second volume (which is published as one book despite being called volume 2 and 3).

>> No.20287696

>>20287684
Is Eroticism, or Evil in Literature okay to start? Those jump out to me as the most interesting

>> No.20287709

>>20287544
The Hot Topic of theory

>> No.20287729

>>20287696
Surya (biographer) considers that a weaker book. Also a bit late in terms of publishing order. But other than that it's not as if you have to go in order. Accursed Share isn't the first either

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20287748

>>20287544
Yo /lit/, please hold this for me and don't do anything weird with it, ok?

>> No.20287756

>>20287544
we have this thread every day

>> No.20287796

>>20287552
You've obviously got a terminally online brain if your response to someone bringing up an author whose work you enjoy is to comment on his most annoying admirers

>> No.20287812

>>20287796
I think a lot of anons are unaware how weird it is when they bring up trannies, niggers and women when something unrelated is mentioned. Shows they think about them too much

>> No.20287813

>>20287796
It's more that any attempt to find discussion of him online will reveal trannies, like overturning a rotting log. It wasn't this way a few years ago.

>> No.20287818

>>20287812
The Triad of Ruiners must be named

>> No.20287851

>>20287813
I mean, that's also true of everything from taking a shit to visiting Disney World now, so what is your point? Has the culture war given you constipation?

>> No.20288296

>>20287544
He really was inspired by De Sade, wasn't he?

>> No.20288367

I personally found Bataille completely uninteresting. His prose (in translation) is not enjoyable and I can't identify a single idea that is his own. I think he's one of those writers you really need to read in the original Klingon. And yes, I encounter plenty of unoriginal and uninteresting writers. Most of them I promptly forget existed. But Bataille has this fanclub of edgy pseuds that incur on my plane of consciousness frequently enough that I'm not allowed to forget he ever existed. It is terribly vexing.

>> No.20288375

>>20287561
Lacan stole his wife

>> No.20288552

>>20288375
But gave his daughter Bataille's surname!

>> No.20289534

the one thing he got right was recognizing the links between erotism and 'death', but then his entire philosophy is trying to incorporate that death into functional society.
nothing wrong with their obsession for love and romance, lead to some pretty good lit and art over the years, but frenchies really need to stop being so horny and painting liberty and libertinism as synonyms.