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20283162 No.20283162 [Reply] [Original]

Stop using this word. Philosophy is not about refutations, it is not a journey from unrefuted confusion toward refuted clarity, philosophers don’t spend time refuting one another.
On the contrary. They spend time clarifying one another and advancing their own self-defined conceptual projects. Imagining philosophers as refutations of each other misconstrues the field as an endless roiling polemic progressively approaching final “irrefutable” truth.
Also, search all the secondary literature, you won’t find anything approaching a stable consensus this word implies. If Levi-Strauss were “refuted” by Derrida this would imply his thoughts were simply wrongheaded and needed correction before disposal in the dustbin. Actually, secondary literature and new anthropology grounded in Levi-Strauss’ observations and theories continue to flourish to this day, with appropriate modulation with reference to other thinkers whose work seems relevant to the case at hand.
Stop thinking in terms of refutations. You will find yourself unable to think for fear of being refuted yourself. The paradox of philosophy is not that it is endlessly negative, but that it is constructive by means of negativity.

>> No.20283165

>>20283162
Retroactively refuted by Socrates

>> No.20283172

>>20283162
T. Nigga who just got refuted

>> No.20283181

>>20283165
>>20283172
Faggots

>> No.20283201

Go back to the middle ages if you want philosophers to dance around and hug each other.
This is the 20th century, and here we fight.

>> No.20283241

>>20283162
How does that joke go
>The two cheapest departments in the university are math and philosophy. All the math department needs is pencils, paper and erasers but philosophy doesn't even need the erasers

>> No.20283251

>>20283201
> This is the 20th century
>>refuted by the calendar

>> No.20283554

>>20283162
Based

>> No.20283629

>>20283162
>hegel refuting refutation
how hegelian

>> No.20283703

>>20283165
>>20283172
>>20283201
faggot
>>20283629
yes, in fact, that would be so. it is called negation.

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20284003

>>20283162
Based for mentioning Levi-Strauss. Didn't read btw

>> No.20284010

>get refuted
>make up new epistemology where you're right
problem solved

>> No.20284041

>>20283162
profane modern philosophy was retroactively refuted by Rene Guenon (pbuh)

>> No.20285250

>>20283241
And yet the philosophy departments are the first to get cut when money’s tight.

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20286153

>>20283162

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>>20283162
>Stop using this word. Philosophy is not about refutations, it is not a journey from unrefuted confusion toward refuted clarity, philosophers don’t spend time refuting one another.
>On the contrary. They spend time clarifying one another and advancing their own self-defined conceptual projects. Imagining philosophers as refutations of each other misconstrues the field as an endless roiling polemic progressively approaching final “irrefutable” truth.
>Also, search all the secondary literature, you won’t find anything approaching a stable consensus this word implies. If Levi-Strauss were “refuted” by Derrida this would imply his thoughts were simply wrongheaded and needed correction before disposal in the dustbin. >Actually, secondary literature and new anthropology grounded in Levi-Strauss’ observations and theories continue to flourish to this day, with appropriate modulation with reference to other thinkers whose work seems relevant to the case at hand.
>Stop thinking in terms of refutations. You will find yourself unable to think for fear of being refuted yourself. The paradox of philosophy is not that it is endlessly negative, but that it is constructive by means of negativity.

>> No.20286497

>>20283162
philosophy has been refuted by Marx

>> No.20287343

>>20283251
Kek