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20274427 No.20274427 [Reply] [Original]

What traits do you associate with an ideal hero?

>> No.20274468

>>20274427
gigantic penis

>> No.20274473

>>20274427
Aryan.

>> No.20274475

>>20274427
abs

>> No.20274477

>>20274427
An unreasonably ostentatious hatred of women

>> No.20274483
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>>20274427
Womanizing anti-hero

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>>20274427
COCK

>> No.20277129

BBC

>> No.20277149
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>>20274427
the companionship of a loyal catamite

>> No.20277590

>>20274427
perseverance

>> No.20277609
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To incite the hatred of the masses.

>> No.20277634

>>20274427
Being a cuckold “father” to a schizophrenic Jew

>> No.20277823

>>20274427
he has to be really into moe anime (like me)
married to a slut
and a manlet
yes, as i am sure you suspect, i am in fact a bejitaCHAD

>> No.20277830

Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor

>> No.20277864

>>20274483
who did it best?

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>>20274427
I don't think there's any one size fits all. In his collection of essays called Representative Men, Ralph Waldo Emerson discuses a wide array of different men and what makes them each heroic in their own way. The essays are Plato the Philosopher, Emmanuel Swedenborg the Mystic, Michel de Montaigne the Skeptic, William Shakespeare the Poet, Napoleon the Man of the World, and Goethe the writer.

In the essay on Montaigne, he writes:
>This head and this tail are called, in the language of philosophy, Infinite and Finite; Relative and Absolute; Apparent and Real; and many fine names beside.
>Each man is born with a predisposition to one or the other of these sides of nature; and it will easily happen that men will be found devoted to one or the other. One class has the perception of difference, and is conversant with facts and surfaces, cities and persons, and the bringing certain things to pass; the men of talent and action. Another class have the perception of identity, and are men of faith and philosophy, men of genius.

Plato, for example, belongs to the latter group; the men of faith and philosophy, the men of genius. His entire life was interior, he devoted it to philosophy.
>Great geniuses have the shortest biographies. Their cousins can tell you nothing about them. They lived in their writings, and so their house and street life was trivial and commonplace. If you would know their tastes and complexions, the most admiring of their readers most resembles them. Plato especially has no external biography. If he had lover, wife, or children, we hear nothing of them. He ground them all into paint. As a good chimney burns its smoke, so a philosopher converts the value of all his fortunes into his intellectual performances.

Napoleon, for example, belongs to the former group; the men of talent and action.
>The instinct of active, brave, able men, throughout the middle class everywhere, has pointed out Napoleon as the incarnate Democrat. He had their virtues and their vices; above all, he had their spirit or aim. That tendency is material, pointing at a sensual success and employing the richest and most various means to that end; conversant with mechanical powers, highly intellectual, widely and accurately learned and skillful, but subordinating all intellectual and spiritual forces into means to a material success. To be the rich man, is the end. "God has granted," says the Koran, "to every people a prophet in its own tongue." Paris and London and New York, the spirit of commerce, of money and material power, were also to have their prophet; and Bonaparte was qualified and sent.

This is just one example Emerson discusses, there are many others. Another one that I remember off the top of my head is how Goethe is a man of higher taste while Napoleon represents the common man. Despite them being opposing qualities, both men managed to utilize them to achieve greater success.

>> No.20278079

>>20277830
Just like me

>> No.20278117

>>20277944
How does this compare, if you've read it, to Carlyle's "On Heroes"? Is it more or less biographical? Carlyle seems to get bogged down in the respective life stories of his great men rather than fleshing out his thesis on the heroic.

>> No.20278133

>>20278117
I haven't read Carlyle, so I can't really compare. Emerson's Representative Men essays are biographical, but they're brief (you could probably read the whole collection in one sitting) and he doesn't include biographical information that isn't relevant to the points he is making.

>> No.20278142

>>20277944
Nietzche once said something to the effect of, "Homer or Plato: that is the only question.".
See also bios politikos and bios theoretikos.

>> No.20278159

>>20274483
>pic unrelated

>> No.20278161

>>20278117
>>20278133 (You)
I forgot to mention that the first essay isn't biographical. It's called Uses of Great Men and gives an overview of the main ideas he's trying to convey without talking about any one specific person.

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>>20274427
Kaiji, literally. Weak as a human being but keep trying to find a way out.
Without a goal he is just a lost bullet, with an objetive he´s almost invincible, but still a human.