/lit/ - Literature

Narcissus and Goldmund
Steppenwolf
Hunger (Knut Hamsun)

>>20272458
She looks like a young Greta Scaachi. That bloke in the wheelchair in the background is on the phone to his brother asking him to get round there with the white van and the chloroform pronto.

>>20272458
>teehee look I do books hehe
>*bing*
>oh jessica, tyrone just texted back, he wants a 3sum right now, lets go!
>teehee

>>20272472
Thanks, I will actually look into these. Which should I start first?

>>20272458
>Van Gogh’s Letters
>The Colossus Of Maroussi-Miller
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra-Nietzsche

If the last one is a meme, then
>Mysteries-Hamsun

>>20272458
Your first problem is posting that picture. It means you are ruled by coombrain. You are so deeply in thralls of coombrain that the very notion of an attractive member of the opposite sex (indecently dressed to boot) posing near an "intellectual" hobby sends you into fits of daydreams and all kind of delusions to the point that you felt it was legitimately a good option to post online. You should probably start here.

>>20272491
This. The amount of moros who are willing to apply all kinds of positive character traits to a slut strictly based on her physical looks never ceases to amaze me.

>OmG sHe iS an InteLleCtual

>>20272458
Crime and Punishment
The Divine Comedy
Moby's-Dick

>>20272541
>is that a female?
>FUCKING TRANNY SLUT

>>20272458
Moby D
TBK
Hamlet

>>20272552
>Moby's-Dick

>>20272571
>Moby D

Can I get the same benefit by reading the abridged version? I hear the full version is full of unnecessary details.
Also thoughts on Blinkist? If I can get 99% of a books' ideas in 15min, why would I not do this?

>>20272580
>If I can get 99% of a books' ideas in 15min
You cannot do that, as a matter of fact. Not just you, nobody can.

Anyway my recs are The Iliad, The Richest Man in Babylon, and 48 Laws of Power. They're not necessarily my top three but if you're trying to turn your life around and you've given no other clues, I'd go with those. MAYBE replace Iliad or 48 Laws with Starting Strength if you're a DYEL.

>>20272458
>Paradise Lost
>The Republic
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra

>>20272580
>Can I get the same benefit by reading the abridged version? I hear the full version is full of unnecessary details.
>Also thoughts on Blinkist? If I can get 99% of a books' ideas in 15min, why would I not do this?

Ngmi

>>20272580
>Can I get the same benefit by reading the abridged version? I hear the full version is full of unnecessary details.
An ocean of rage and misery has been poured into my vessel of a person upon reading this. May you never find any positivity in your meager life.

>>20272611
What benefit do I get as a person in 2022 by reading dozens of pages on how to process whale carcass?

>>20272624
at that point just read the fucking wikipedia for it lmao, why do you even read

>>20272458
>non-meme
>aside from religious texts
redundant much?

>>20272628
That's just slippery slop argument right there. Obviously there's a point where you have to judge what's the most bang you can get for your time.

>>20272458
Simulacra and Simulation
Beware of Pity
The Odyssey

Don Quixote
War and Peace
The Magic Mountain

>>20272624
I never believed the NPC meme until I finished Moby Dick and looked to discussions online and in-person regarding the book. I was met with an unprecedented amount of genuine complaints and whining about the chapters where Melville writes so beautifully about the process of whaling on the open sea aboard whaling vessels fitted for such an activity. It was a reality beyond my apprehension since these were supposedly "people" that had wholly read the book and, I figured, enjoyed it enough to want to discuss it.
But no. It took me some reflection to realize that these myopic ingrates had forced themselves through one of the greatest stories ever conceived just to say they had read it. Not once did they actually enjoy the process of reading the book nor the glorious tale told within it. Thinking now, I wish he had written more about it. He could've written on the ecosystem of ants and I would've loved it.
These emotions are not what NPCs feel when reading. I use reading very loosely because not once did they actually read the words of Melville. These vapid golems are the fish of our world; they persist, breed, and perish in the same sordid waters that they shit in. I'd say that these non-humans would enjoy children's books more, but even those have actual writing that they would invariably and predictably gloss over.
TLDR. You are not a human if you read a book and wish that there were less of it. Just fucking put down the book and return to whatever cyberpunk realm you arose, or better yet, kill yourself.

>>20272679
tldr?

>>20272458
>the faery queene by edmund spenser
>2666 by roberto bolano
>2 years before the mast by richard dana
I hope you accomplish your goal

>>20272686
My TLDR for the TLDR in the most brevitous way possible: Die

>>20272624
>he doesn't hunt and dress his own whale

>>20272686
aesthetic my boy. aesthetic.

>>20272679
the chapters on whaling were gay as fuck but that chapter on the color white made me read them again. content = ass but the quality = sublime.

>>20272458
Anna Karenina
Horace's works, Odes and Satires favourites
The Count of Monte Cristo

>>20272719
No chapter of Melville's is gay as fuck, because it's Melville writing it. Imagine a man shitting on Starry Night with the reasoning that it's just a painting of a night sky. You would instantly think of them as one of the most retarded people to have ever been born and very likely missing a large chunk of their brain. It's the exact same case with certain godlike authors and these lobotomites bitching and moaning about them daring to explain the situation and process behind what's happening in the story.

>>20272679
this is, ironically, a very npc-ish position to have. a "real" person with their own perspective would be likely to have a variety of responses to different parts of something as broad as moby dick, including perhaps not giving a shit about some of it at all. AH YES EVERY PAGE HAS ME IN ECSTASY BECAUSE I AM EXPERIENCING GREAT ART, I'M NOT LIKE THOSE OTHER KIDS MR TEACHER - give me a break. go read ferdydurke next, turns out this one polack was already making fun of you last century.

>>20272763
>No film of Marvel's is gay as fuck, because it's Marvel releasing it. Imagine a man shitting on Starry Night with the reasoning that it's just a painting of a night sky. You would instantly think of them as one of the most retarded people to have ever been born and very likely missing a large chunk of their brain. It's the exact same case with certain godlike brands and these lobotomites bitching and moaning about them daring to explain the situation and process behind what's happening in the story.

>>20272763
If melville wrote a gay sex scene it would be gay as fuck. regardless of how good his writing is (which I say again is damn near perfect). and if one can imagine melville writing something gay as fuck then it is conceivable that something he did write is gay as fuck. to say that the subject being written about is the same as the way that it is written is dumb. I can understand that it fits in the context but that doesnt make the subject any less gay.

>>20272786
this. >>20272679 is fetishizing melville and acting as an exclusively pro melville automiton.

>>20272580
>>20272458
>>20272502

Why do girls reading get me so rock hard?
I can't even get aroused watching POV porn now, but suddenly I want to wrap my hands around their waists and kiss them gently on the neck

>>20272630

>>20272816
He warrants the fetishization and adoration.

>>20272837
the problem isn't who "warrants" what, the problem is that you're making a retard out of yourself with this kind of thinking. your biggest takeaway from this giant book is that you're better than chad and stacy for liking it? that's very shallow.

>>20272821
Stop watching porn. You're all kinds of fucked up.

>>20272837
melville is really good but no one is worth fetishization. that is how slaves are made

I love women so much, bros.

>>20272458

Unironically (and in no specific order)

>Crime and Punishment
(actually changed my life, pretty much anything by Dostoevsky is worth checking out)
>Of Mice and Men
>Meditations (the Marcus Aurelius memoir, theres tons of bullshit new age books that one might get confused with)

>>20272552
this nigger gets it

>>20272670
never got why people were so into S&S

>>20272821
you literally have a disease my friend :^)

>>20272458
The Once and Future King, Snow Country, and Joan of Arc

kolyma stories -varlam shalamov
anna karenina-tolstoy
ficciones-borges
very special mention to growth of the soil - hamsun

>>20272580
>abridged version
absolutely filtered. If you cant read an entire book you should get another hobby or read ya, tranny and women lit. Maybe you could read steohen king and paulo coelho too

>>20272502
Goldmund

>>20273488
Many King books are long indeed, not sure what's your point. Not same anon btw

>>20272458
1) Canterbury Tales
2) Julius Caesar by Shakepeare
3) King of Elfland's Daughter

The brothers karamazov
East of eden
One hundred years of solitude

snxpr

Narcissus and Goldmund
War and Peace
An Artist of a Floating World

>>20272472
Unfathomably based.

>>20272458
Wind Sand and Stars
Moby Dick
Secondhand Time

>>20272458
Cicero's writings, Emerson's essays and praise of folly by Erasmus.

>>20272458
You want me to reccomend non-memes when I myself am the clowniest clown.
Anna Karenina
Moby Dick
The brothers K
Excluding some passages from the Bible. I just realized how very Christian this list is.

>>20272458
So The Wind Won't Blow It All Away
Balcony in the Forest
Speedboat
>>20272541
It is pie in the sky, something which can never be had. People do this because the subject can never disappoint in the way the people in our lives do. If you will never know someone you can make them out to be anything you want. It is not that complex and part of most everyone's lives and part of how people identify what it is they actually want in life, like trying on a pair of pants before you buy them. If you do not do this it almost certain means you lack an imagination and/or inner voice.

>A Confederacy of Dunces
(this probably won't be of much help if you're trying to turn your life around beyond an example of what not to do)
>The Day Lasts More Than A Hundred Years
>A Canticle for Leibowitz

Who is this girl? I want to see more pics of her.

The Picture of Dorian Gray
The Catcher in the Rye
Nothing else really stands out

>>20272580
Well now I hate her
Not for being an attention whoring insta thot
But for shilling neoliberal drivel to her army of simps

>>20272458
Against a Dark Background
Forgetting Elena
The Sun Also Rises

Joseph and His Brothers
Paradise Lost
Ovid's Metamorphoses

>>20272852
>your biggest takeaway from this giant book is that you're better than chad and stacy for liking it?
Not at all what I've ever thought nor is that what I meant to say with my earlier tryhard paragraphs. Chad and stacy don't show up to book clubs or discuss them online. I just can't believe that there's people that read that book and don't love every word of it, cover to cover. Even the dreaded, evil whaling chapters were just more information on the subject to me and helped me learn more about somethingI had no previous knowledge of.
Looking back, I definitely went s.oymode about Moby Dick earlier and with denouncing those that don't love every part of it, especially since It's clearly not for everyone.
I simply wish other people were as autistic about it as I.

>>20272458
Iliad
Metaphors we LIve by
Knowing isn't Acting: why Reading isn't the Answer (I just made this Title up)

>>20273863
>It is pie in the sky, something which can never be had. People do this because the subject can never disappoint in the way the people in our lives do. If you will never know someone you can make them out to be anything you want. It is not that complex and part of most everyone's lives and part of how people identify what it is they actually want in life, like trying on a pair of pants before you buy them. If you do not do this it almost certain means you lack an imagination and/or inner voice.
All true. I did this with a girl I knew. The idea I have of her is not nearly similar to reality.

pan - hamsun
dune - herbert
the old man and the sea - hemmingway.
honestly i just put the last one cause the other two were H names

>>20272679
I always viewed the whaling chapters as a sort of ridiculous and sardonic juxtaposition to the actual plot of Moby Dick, in order to drum up a bit of humor. Moby Dick is a comedy after all. Do you people take those chapters as sincere? I remember they were usually full of thinly vieled jokes or witticisms, unless my memory fails me.

>>20272705
kek nice

>>20273591
I like your taste, senpai.

Diderot - Jacques the Fatalist
Pavic - Dictionary of the Khazars
Eco - The Island of the Day Before

>>20272580
>Can I get the same benefit by reading the abridged version? I hear the full version is full of unnecessary details.
>Also thoughts on Blinkist? If I can get 99% of a books' ideas in 15min, why would I not do this?

In Search Of Lost Time
The Man Without Qualities
The Sleepwalkers

>>20272580
People like you should probably just read Wiki entries because you clearly don't enjoy the written word on its own.

>>20272580
With some nonfiction books you can get the main ideas through wikipedia or other sources like the one you mentioned and you wouldn't lose out on much. Or you could skim through the book to get the relevant information and decide if it's worth a full read or not.

But if you do that with fiction or books known for their details, ideas and overall experience, you miss out on the real reasons to read them. Then all that's left is a meaningless sequence of events that probably has no relevance to you.

>>20272458
Moby dick
La familia de Pascual Duarte (Cela)
Ficciones

The Once And Future King
The Long Ships
Taiko

>>20272513
where are you from anon?
i bought the colossus of maroussi a few days ago and i have heard it being praised a lot since then. very excited for it

book of disquiet
post office
ask the dust

>donny q, bloody m, and the one with the kid and the snake-elephant-hat thing
>ah fuck, meatwad shit on the carpet again, see you nerds later

>>20273939
wholly shit did an anon on 4chan just admit to going a bit sperg? good on you anon. I was the anon that said the whaling chapters were gay bit I was convinced to reread them by the chapter on the color white. my point in that was to say that those chapters are still good but if you only read them for their content you will miss what makes them good. I think they are just not as good as other chapters because other chapters have both globally interesting elements (Im not a huge fan of just learning whatever is thrown at me, Id rather learn what I am interested in. but I can understand people just wanting to learn everything they come across) and really good writing and I think that, when you are in the thick of reading something that is so consistently good, the differences between great and good can be conflated with the differences between good and bad.

>>20276893
Philadelphia. So nowhere near Greece but Miller brought me there. I try to shill this book every so often. It’s a beautiful book that always gets me in a good mindset whenever I reread it

>>20277007
>Philadelphia
>nowhere near Greece
Ironic

>>20272458
Fellowship of the Ring
The two towers
Return of the king

>>20272580
Abridged versions are for children that have not taken a high school English class. Enjoy your small brain.

>>20277105
I guess I should say Ben Franklin’s Philadelphia

>>20273895
who is she?