/lit/ - Literature

They thought that they could be cheeky and get away with it.

>>20270040
fishing wasn't invented yet at the time the brook was written

>>20270040
>In the Odyssey, Ulysses
????

>>20270268
Ulysses is the name of the guy in the Odyssey.

Because then they wouldn't've been cursed.

It's also much easier to slaughter tame oxen than catch fish, but the above's the real reason.

>>20270268
>In the Ulyssey, Ulysses

>>20270270
It's the Latinized version of the name.

>>20270040
It's a tale as old as time itself.
Hey MC don't eat thing.
MC then eats thing like a retard. I think the only one who dodged that trap was Herakles in Hades.

>>20270270
It isn't.
>νόστον Ὀδυσσῆος ταλασίφρονος, ὥς κε νέηται
>Ὀδυσσῆος
What does it say here, nigger?

>>20270270
Who's going to tell him?

>>20270311
i dunno, it's all greek to me

>>20270040
>>20270270
Isn’t his name Odysseus

>>20270306
>>20270316
>>20270323
What does it say here?

>>20270365
yes, joyce used the cringe latinized name. what's your point?

>>20270040
>In the Odyssey, Ulysses's
Who? There’s no such character in the Odyssey

>>20270306
Are we in Latania, anonymous? Who speaks this dead savage’s language anymore?
Say his real name

I remember there was a passage saying that Poseidon made it impossible for them to do that. Might be making it up though.

>>20270435
Poseidon? Don't you mean Neptune?

>>20270435
Noooo, it's not Poseidon, it's Neptune!

>>20270040
that bull looks spooked.

>>20270270
>>20270316
>>20270323
>>20270385

Odysseus is greek
Ulysses is latin.
They're the same name but translated

What happens after they eat the ox?

>>20270040
They wanted some red meat, ez

>>20270479
>

>>20270480
They’re different names.
HOMER COMPOSED IT IN GREEK ABOUT A CHARACTER WHO SPOKE GREEK.
HE HAD A GREEK NAME

>>20270555
Do you refer to that guy in the New Testament as "Yeshua" (his name irl) or "Iesous" (his name in the Greek text)

this entire fuckin thread lmao

>>20270040
Because it's a work of primitive literature.
Still a masterpiece, but a work of primitive literature. If you were to write the exact same book today, it would be (rightly) rejected by the best publishers (they'd recognize your incredible talent for description, but suggest lots of corrections), with the exception of those who could read the original Greek verse.

>>20270627
Naw, his Germanic-Yiddish version
Fuck Yeshua and the bibble whole.

>>20270480
>Odysseus somehow translates to Ulysses
Is this because of the ablative or what?

>>20270688
What? How would the ablative affect nouns in nominative? It's just a strong sound change.
>The form Ὀδυσ(σ)εύς Odys(s)eus is used starting in the epic period and through the classical period, but various other forms are also found. In vase inscriptions, we find the variants Oliseus (Ὀλισεύς), Olyseus (Ὀλυσεύς), Olysseus (Ὀλυσσεύς), Olyteus (Ὀλυτεύς), Olytteus (Ὀλυττεύς) and Ōlysseus (Ὠλυσσεύς). The form Oulixēs (Οὐλίξης) is attested in an early source in Magna Graecia (Ibycus, according to Diomedes Grammaticus), while the Greek grammarian Aelius Herodianus has Oulixeus (Οὐλιξεύς).[5] In Latin, he was known as Ulixēs or (considered less correct) Ulyssēs. Some have supposed that "there may originally have been two separate figures, one called something like Odysseus, the other something like Ulixes, who were combined into one complex personality."[6] However, the change between d and l is common also in some Indo-European and Greek names,[7] and the Latin form is supposed to be derived from the Etruscan Uthuze (see below), which perhaps accounts for some of the phonetic innovations.

>>20270555
of course and I would never call him "Ulysses" personally. Just clearing up the confusion

>>20270480
Nigger

>>20270411
ACtually its Latium

>>20270040
>Odyssey, Ulysses

>>20271020
I was being derisive, but it’s good to make the correction for the plebs sake.

>>20270040
Because it’s a parable-like episode in an ancient epic poem and it was not attempting to be realistic. Can’t tell if this was supposed to be bait or not. Also all the people being aggressively pedantic about the name should really consider trying to do something else with their time, maybe something that would actually justify their consumption of oxygen.

>>20270627
You do know that Ἰησοῦς is pronounced "YEE-SUUS," like Europeans pronounce it?

>>20270040
Ulyssey*

>>20270311
Odusshos

>>20270365
Lol. Everyone knows it's spelt Clooney

>>20271207
Ihsous

>>20270040
It was salt watre.

>>20270481
They all die

>a potentially fun thread ruined by unfunny cunts
Bravo!

>>20272209
every time

>>20270059