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Hey /lit/. This summer, for the first time, i've experienced being around two Harvard graduates. One was my SAT teacher, who teaches at a shitty state school, isn't married, and is totally happy with his life. The other is Keith Law, who I just read his blog, listened to his podcasts, etc. I also read Frank Herrman's blog.

Whats important is that they all have alot in common. They're confident, sure of themselves, and can control a conversation. What they're saying is right, you know it, they know it. They're interesting, talking with them isn't like speaking with anyone else. Maybe this is a product of them going to Harvard (and i'm not saying only Harvard spits out people like this), but I don't thinks that it.

How do I become like this? I'm a rich white suburban kid, i'm afraid of conflict, i get good grades and i'm from a hard working (read: extremely boring) family but i'm totally average in everything i do. Is it just life experience? How can I have this kind of character?

Thanks

>> No.2026053

This does not apply to all top-tier university graduates. However, there are many who approach life with a good amount of humility and curiosity that education only enhances.

>> No.2026059

Has nothing to do with them going to Harvard. They are like this. This is why they got into Harvard. They were like this before Harvard.

>> No.2026060

>>2026048
learn. don't look back, look forward. you grow up by learning. and that's what you're talking about: these people seem more grown up. they are more grown up. they have found a passion, and they have pursued it to the degree necessary to become proficient. do you have a passion, op?

>> No.2026066

>>2026060

Yeah, baseball (I know it sounds childish, but like Law and Herrman, I feel like I approach is maturely).

Will following my passion make me a better overall person?

Are the traits they have genetic? If I just become more overall curious, can I be like this?

>> No.2026082

>>2026066

They have purpose. They have goals. They know what they want to do.

Pursue what you want to do with determination and the passion to learn how to do it well and you'll be like them in the end.

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>> No.2026087

>>2026066
fuck off about genetics. seriously. that shit doesn't matter one hair. maybe they have good genetics, maybe they just worked their asses off. either way they worked their asses off. they had a passion and pursued it. was that passion genetic? was that passion instilled by their parents? was that passion the result of a brain slug? it doesn't fucking matter. what matters is: they pursued it.

you have a passion for baseball. why do you think being harvard grad will make you happy?

>> No.2026091

>>2026048

\they've probably learned only to talk about things they know something about, and have moderate and measured opinions on it. it's easy to do once you know the tricks.

>> No.2026095

They were socialized into being alphas. They are probably richcunts who were cultivated from a young age.

>> No.2026100

>>2026095
i will assume op can recognize someone who knows what they talk about. then fuck off. yours is a defense of feeble minds: "well i never had the chance." cry some more, while i go read. it is the same as op wanting to hear: "yes. you have no chance. all is genetics."

>> No.2026102

>What they're saying is right, you know it, they know it.

Personally, I have little interest and not too much admiration for people like this. They talk in platitudes and rarely come up with naything interesting. Give me a shy stutterer who talks a lot of nonsense an doccasionally copmes out with something diamond.

Pile of shit + 1 diamond > 500 bricks

>> No.2026103

Hang out almost exclusively with passionate people. It's the best, if not the only, way to become passionate yourself.
I'd imagine top universities are good places to make such friends.

>> No.2026110

>>2026103
hello ted. you're in for an unpleasant surprise.

>>2026102
not if you can't separate the diamond from the shit, but i agree. quality not quantity is a way to say this. with work you can develop your ability to shit out a couple diamonds. (abdominal muscles to squeeze the shit? i don't know.)

>> No.2026116

>>2026110

thanks for all the help

>> No.2026118

>>2026116

err, i quoted that guy but thanks everybody for the help

>> No.2026124

Is passion one of those things I can "fake till I make"?

For example, I play football. I'm kind off soft, so I really hate the contact of it, but i'm not a quitter. If I force myself to enjoy it, will I eventally begin to like to hit?

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>What they're saying is right, you know it, they know it

In which case they know fuck all.

>> No.2026135

>>2026124
i realise you're talking about playing sport, but it sounds like your describing how you feel about things with your sugar daddy

>> No.2026144

>>2026135

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>>2026135
>mfw i actually have one and you don't

>> No.2026177

Were they from Harvard Business school by any chance OP?

>> No.2026209

>>2026177

nah. why?

>> No.2026242

>>2026209
Because appearances are an important thing you learn in Business school.

>> No.2026250

>>2026168
Ty still fucks old men in Glasgow for rent I see?

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Join the military OP, just retain your humanity and you will come out stronger for it.

>> No.2026258

>>2026102

maybe u shud read continental filosofy then. at least, its almost exclusivly shit. i suppose it is occasionally funny altho i dont no any specific examples.

>> No.2026265

>>2026258
Having you within its reading demographic would definitely be one.

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>>2026258

>> No.2026284

>>2026110
>hello ted. you're in for an unpleasant surprise.
This is disappointingly true. 80% of undergraduates at top universities are culturally illiterate, good only at test-taking. Even in the Ivy League you have to dig to find people who read for enjoyment or have seen a film from before 1970. And it's about 1 in 100 at a school like that for them to be culturally literate AND fun to drink with/hang out with.

>> No.2026293

>>2026254
>join military
>retain humanity

lolwut

OP, seriously, it's not that hard to live a decent life and be a decent human being. Just don't be a moron and don't be a dick.

Forcing yourself to be "passionate" about some random thing is stupid and not constructive. Plus, unless your passion is about something of actual import, you'll sound like a numbnut (imaging if someone told you he's "passionate" about the exegesis of Dan Brown books.)

And don't be so impressed by Harvard. Look up the Justice lectures (they're course lectures made publicly available online by Harvard) and watch the students. They're no smarter or dumber than kids at most other schools.

>> No.2026302

>>2026100

Why are you so mad?

I never said that I couldn't be like them. I said I started the training later than they did.

>> No.2026319

>>2026265
>>2026270

the extreme hostility displayed towards nonstandard spellings and people that use them, is really, really dum and a shame. hard to improve the spellings with such tendencys in people.

i find that reading about the urgent need to change spellings for english makes people's hostile tendencys described abov disappear. but, ofc, that wud actually require som reading wile such people still hav a hostile relationship towards spelling reform. but just in case somone is not narrow-minded about this, they can start with, for instance, Noah Webster's essay about the matter wich is surprisingly still relevant today.

http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/DKitchen/new_655/webster_language.htm

>> No.2026327

>>2026319
>>2026258
asl?

>> No.2026337

>>2026327

http://emilkirkegaard.dk/

>> No.2026338

>>2026337
you have a website about yourself? that's kind of worse than FB really...

>> No.2026356

>>2026338
ty, come to the club, we're all waiting for you bro, been worried

>> No.2026352

>>2026319
when even tybrax's lame ass is insulting you, you know you're a special kind of retard

p.s. it's not your spelling

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>>2026338
Where the fuck have you been..

>> No.2026359

>>2026356
i hate everyone at the club apart from maybe 3 people. fuck off

>>2026357
i... have commitments :(

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>>2026359
I'm not mad at you.. i just want to talk to you.

>> No.2026374

>>2026359
but i bet you like me, it's all chill ppl there atm, come and hang out we've been srsly worried.

check yo' last.fm for comments

>> No.2026377

>>2026374
I don't believe for a minute Ty goes to clubs. I don't even believe he has friends. Who are you, I'm onto you.

>> No.2026378

>>2026377
he has hundreds of friends, we've all missed him and have been worried sick

>> No.2026384

>>2026352

Its sort of interesting to see the insults of my intelligence on /lit/ wen professors rite things such as

"[...] You are extraordinarily sophisticated in philosophy for a person at your stage of studies. Is your knowledge mostly self-acquired? In my 31 years of teaching I had only a tiny handful of students as clever as you."

to me. Makes me reconsider the average level on /lit/, perhaps it is not much higher than 4chan in general after all. Most people on here just read fiction anyway.

>>2026327

The actual ASL wud be: 22, male, Denmark.

>> No.2026390

>>2026377
>I don't even believe he has friends.
how come?


>In my 31 years of teaching I had only a tiny handful of students as clever as you."
lol

>> No.2026790

bump

>> No.2026809

>>2026384
>"[...] You are extraordinarily sophisticated in philosophy for a person at your stage of studies. Is your knowledge mostly self-acquired? In my 31 years of teaching I had only a tiny handful of students as clever as you."

i bet you didn't spell words incorrectly for them, asshole. show us a little respect, if you want us to think you're smart. all we have to judge you is what you type. if you type like someone who is stupid, we will think you are stupid. when we call you stupid, that should indicate one thing: you type like someone who is stupid.

>> No.2026834

>>2026384
Bro. Dude. let me clue you in to something.

I'm a philosophy lecturer. There's no way a prof would write this unless he's trying to get into a student's pants.

>> No.2026844

>>2026809

U dont seem to grasp the obvius solution: don't judge too much from how people spell, especially a really bad language like english. Besides, it is quite obvius that my spellings ar purposefully nonstandard.

Wat the hostility indicates is that people on here ar bad at evaluating people as they way too quickly form judgements from too little information. Now that is a sign of stupidity. ;)

>>2026834

He is not my professor (different university) and does not live near me. In fact, he is from Canada wile i live in Denmark. And we'r both male and heterosexual.

No way, except if, u no, he really thot that a person really was extra-ordinary, duh. Obviusly, i am not going to give u his name or forward the email or somthing like that.

It is interesting that people on this bord very ofen indicate that they like intelligence and so on but wen they 'meet' somone obviusly intelligent and well-red, they call the person "stupid" etc. How ironic.

>> No.2026848

For everyone you meet, approach them with the air that you can kick their ass.

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Charisma, genuineness, etc.: it's like anything else; all it takes is practice.

Hang out w/ those guys as often as possible. Try to emulate their behavior, especially with new people you meet (b/c your old friends might find the "new" you to be an affected behavior). Take note of how they act around strangers, when making a first impression.

It's not improving your game (with women). In a way, it IS EXACTLY LIKE improving your game. Ask a lot of questions, give others a chance to speak, assume a cooperative conversational posture (i.e., act like a woman), etc.

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a thortful figure is walking among the dead beetles crushed biskuits
and old buns which litter the skool passage.
He is reading a peotry book.
Aktually it is not me it is a weed called Shelley.

>> No.2026945

>>2026102
Who defines what is platitude and what is maxim?

>> No.2026952

>>2026258
i take offense to that spelling of philosophy. but I see what you're doing. I just like the whole philo part of it.

>> No.2026956

>>2026952
I think there's one dude who uses that spelling

he should start namefagging or something

>> No.2026962

>>2026337
if you tell me you're related to Kierkegaard, my ethics professor just might cum buckets.

>> No.2026972

>>2026844
The way you form your sentences makes me doubt you more than the way in which you spell your words. But can I have an empirical knowledge of your intelligence? no. So what matter is it to me.

>> No.2026980

>>2026834

Emil is cute. His prof was after his body.

>>2026945

Me. And Emil if he lets me fuck him.

>> No.2026997

>>2026980
What gives you such power? (both the power of definition and the power to bestow said power)

>> No.2027002

>>2026997

my huge ego and the God that created it

>> No.2027023

>>2027002
So from that I can conclude that Ego bestows such power? Or are you implying that only your ego is so powerful?

>> No.2027030

>Obviusly, i am not going to give u his name or forward the email or somthing like that.
haha like as if validating your claims would make you suddenly be great? fuck off, hipster. i don't care what your professor thinks. my opinion of you is low.

>> No.2027036

>>2026258
>>2026319
>>2026384
>>2026844
>>2026923

U sir are ful of bulshit.

After reeding the first part of Webster's argument, I can mak this claim.

U r inconsistent. Also, words such as No and Know cannot be riten both as No. That wuld caws a misunderstanding, which is the antithesis of Webster's intent.


However, personally, I am against the raging overwriting of our language that Webster calls for. I prefer words with archaic spellings, merely from and aesthetic standpoint. Conversely a language that is phonetically based has a particular beauty when spoken.

>> No.2027047

Wow, OP here. I'm so confused what happened to this thread.

>> No.2027063

>>2027023
You should conclude that it is ego that bestows the power.

However, know ye also that there is only one ego and it is mine.

>> No.2027088

>>2026059
definitely. the kids i grew up with who ended up going to harvard were all very driven and self-assured; mature and focused with regards to their academic/career goals even if they had goofy personalities. a couple of them were kind of annoying wieners, but totally alpha annoying wieners - artie ziff types

also stop making off-topic threads

>> No.2027098

idontknowWHATthefuckisgoingonhere.jpg

>> No.2027577

>>2026956

I dont really need to namefag if im the only person riting like this, do i? ;) Unless, ofc, somone els starts riting moderate cut spelling as well, but then again, being recognized on /fit/ is not of particular concern to me.

>> No.2027592

>>2027577
wow how did you learn to be so self-assured

>> No.2027602

>>2026962

Im not, as i rote erlyer in som post. Kierkegaard had no children anyway.

>>2026972

Doutful, but im not a native speaker of english, so likely my use of it wud be a little odd.

>>2027030

Ok, u can continue being rong if u so wish.

>>2027036

So, ..., u reserched the matter for maybe 5 minutes, and realized that changing spellings somtimes results in homografs, and then claim that this is an insurmountable problem for spelling reform proposals? Sigh. At least, u did 5 minutes of reserch wich is probably mor than most people do. The problem is, ofc, not insurmountable as english alredy has lots of homografs wich very seldom cause problems. Context almost always solves the matter. And then, ther is the obvius fact that verbal language does just fine with lots of words that ar pronounced the same (as was remarked by a danish reformer som 40 years ago), wy wud ritten language not be able to do so as well?

U can prefer languages with bad sound-letter connections all u want, altho that wud be pretty stupid.

>Conversely a language that is phonetically based has a particular beauty when spoken.

this is pretty confused.

>> No.2027614

hy gys rmmbr whn anon mde cutspellingman lk lik a rtrd whn he strtd spking lk ths?

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>> No.2028764

ITT: sociopaths