/lit/ - Literature

>>20258173

>>20258173

>>20258227
accurate, except for the fact that Part Two will meet your expectations and then some.

>>20258173
care to explain that joke, OP?

>>20258246
the substance of "the ring and the book" is the author dunking on the persons involved in the murder of an unfaithful woman. a murder which at the time captured the attention of the public.
>>20258240
sometimes these don't have to be 100% accurate, its more about making an inside joke with others who have read the same book as you. take pic related. the "expected" part is very accurate to what actually happens in the book and the "got" section describes something that wasn't the main focus of the book but was in there a little more than you'd expect.

>>20258272
same with this one.

>>20258173
This one's my favorite.

Highly recommended by the way

>>20258357
kek

>>20258173
for some reason the jannie keeps deleting these on-topic threads

>>20258672
Oh Sariputra,
The Barneysatvas and the Barneytshka Dinos of all the Barneylands bowed with palms pressed and sat down next to the Barney and said,
"I LOVE YOU
YOU LOVE ME"

>>20258672

>>20258227
same but with George Bernard Shaw Don Juan in Hell

>>20258488
fuck jannies. jannies 100% are trannies. try starting a thread about "when harry became sally" "irreversible damage" or pic related. they delete it faster than they delete porn. it makes sense, the only way to get people to moderate a community for free is if it allows them to exercise an ulterior motive. this is true on other boards as well. you can't talk about any comic that makes trannies look bad.

>>20258770
Just finished this and you’re picrel couldn’t be more accurate. The information in that book though could redpill anyone if they have it a chance. “They” really are the problem.

>>20258173

>>20258770
simple and short to the point
why would I want to read it then?

>>20258770
they look bad by simply existing

>>20258502
accurate desu

>>20258272
I loved this work. I'm glad it was published. I learned a lot of new words from this diary. Love this little nigga so much

>>20258357
Kafka's protags always had women fawning over him. Dude was coping mad hard in his writings lmao. Died a virgin and alone.

>>20258791
honestly its hard to recommend it to anyone since its just a DENSE list of the names of people and organizations involved pushing this agenda and the exact details of their involvement. it's only useful to people who are unsure of the validity of the transgender movement and open to being convinced OR to domestic terrorists who want to know who to shoot.

>>20258227
Now you read Part Two.

>>20259042
same, really enjoyed some of the details like the townsfolk burning peaty soil instead of firewood or the way he duped the nuns. some of the bits felt a tad like flashman, especially that bit at the very start where they're raiding the inn or later when he kidnaps a jew to be his guide.

>>20258222
fugg, it's amazing how much of the book is about calculus, architecture, or Rembrandt when you think it's about Caesar, decadence, or Germanic barbarians invading from the hinterlands. And yet, I can't help but feel forlorn after reading it anyway.

>>20259045
>Dude was coping mad hard in his writings lmao.
Why do you think he was self-inserting as his protags? He was torturing them. Are you a moron?

>>20259943
Reynolds is not really good. He's ok at his best, and shit at his worst.

>>20258173

expectations: pleasently subverted

Expected demons and murder and shit, got The Inherent Darkness of Mankind

>>20261088
I love that Berserk is the only fiction I have ever encountered that shows a womyn getting rekt from her high horse mannish position and then forever lives her days as a mad woman. It expresses the popular delusion ephemeral in the spotlight then the intimate ground breaking reality. It almost meta criticizes all fiction for allowing women the fantasy of delusion in their genuine belief because everything genuine is dissimulated. The art of anime heroine rape dissimulation dissimulates her dissimulation.

>>20262171
One thread. Can we have one thread where you guys aren't like this

>>20262211
Kneel femoid. Know your place.

where's that metamorphosis one

>>20262211
retard

>>20262397
kek

>>20258173
Someone post the Illiad one for the love of Zeus

where is corn?

>>20258320
Accurate

>>20262171
But doesn't Casca best a general while on her period? It's the same old Hollywood trope where a woman half a man's size can beat up highly trained warriors.

>>20262219
>>20262386
No, he's right. Berserk fans make that manga out to be much deeper than it really is. The whole thing is a pseud-catcher. It's a fun read, for sure. It's not half as deep as most of its fans make it out to be.

>>20263241
>what I expected: badass hoplite battles
>what I got: a list of boats, idk i got bored and gave up

>>20259334
>domestic terrorists who want to know who to shoot.

I call them freedom fighters

Love these. Gonna make a few for books I finished this year

>>20263675
>murdering people for living how they want to live is FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM
schizo moment

>>20258786
Thankfully a brave and well paid Janny deleted the post, so no easily influenced lurkers will be redpilled today!

>>20258173

>>20260734
>he was self-inserting as his protags
>He was torturing them.

>>20262171
>anime
this is an adult board
Miura was a pedo sympathizer btw

bros. I just read leave society, and I'm worries about our boy. is falling down some sort of qanon rabbit hole?

>>20260813
Lol

>>20258173
Got one for Moby Dick?

>>20263638
Yes it is that trope but the story gradually dissimulates it down to a woman's worst fears and vulnerabilities no other media will touch outside a Law and Order LAWYER GOOD posturing.

>>20262211
Keep praying to the Patron Saint of Singlemom Altar of Cuckoldry and Swindling

>>20264586
This is an anime website. If you don't like it, leave.

>>20264882
i don't personally but im sure someone has made one
>>20260747
yeah found that out the hard way. i just wish i could find a book that was as engaging as rama but with a more complete ending. i've never found anything like it. there's very nearly zero interpersonal conflict and the intrigue comes just from the reader wanting to learn more about rama itself. its so satisfying to see the characters just do their fucking jobs instead of getting into romantic squabbles or plotting against eachother for money and fame the way they do in every other book. not to say that clarke is a better author than dostoyevsky or shakespeare but you get a feeling right after you finish that this was a book about adults and most books are about overgrown children.

>>20262171
aside from guts every single man in the hawks got killed. the fact that casca couldn't defeat an army of monsters wasn't some kind of anti-feminist statement though personally i agree that that strong womyn shit is annoying.

>>20258320
That's pretty apt. Just needs a reference to the ending spergout.
>>20258357
Squarepusher made a reference to this, I think he was saying that it reminded him of the desire to make music, like he was hearing it filtering through a phone line but couldn't quite make it out.

>>20263638
No, she gets her shit kicked in while being on her period and only after she's no longer on it is she able to beat him.

>>20266218
Have you read any Stanislaw Lem? Eden comes to mind as a similar book to Rama - just a bunch of people trying to figure out a place. Or Solaris.

>>20266218
I've been wanting to read Libra. Is it good?

Didn't like the version I saw in this thread, I feel like it didn't emphasize the buffonish ranting enough

>>20266240
i'll check them out, thanks.
>>20266245
i was a tad disappointed because i was hoping for more convoluted schemes and also i'd heard it described here as a "perfect book" at least twice. it wasn't a perfect book but it nailed the feeling of a little peak behind the veil and i feel like the delillo's oswald must be pretty close to the real deal. all the characters felt very human. like they all have bills and as they get older stress has a medical toll on them. makes you understand why someone might get desperate and shoot the president.

>>20258306
This. Isles in the Stream is kino

>>20263522
Accurate

>>20258173

>>20264931
The Idiot is a harem anime?

Bump

>>20260747
How does he compare to Peter F Hamilton?

>>20268484
Kek, this has been the whole pandemic desu

>>20262219
Incels base their entire self-esteem on what women think of them. Never forget that!

>>20269433
both are empty and soulless

>>20269512
That was everyone I know one month into the quarantine. I'm pretty sure most of them are still unvaxxed.

>>20269523
Not an incel but if you were my gf I would let you bite the tip of my head like ur pic related.

>>20268280
Kek, I didn't get the fedora vibe (is it referring to how he lies to the widow?) but it was not what I expected.

>>20269988
I used spoiler tags.

>>20269547
Not a girl but I would definitely not be your bf, for I only date successful chads and not hopeless losers haha

>>20266218
accurate

>>20261058
ok now post the real one

>>20270196
Being a hopeless loser has never been an obstacle when trying to get wet cunt.

>>20270196
>successful chads
ok I usually steer clear from this genderwar baiting but you just know that women who say this are just a plate being passed around by some old guys who used to do coke

>>20262211
Kek
>>20263656
Goes for like 90% of hyped up anime and manga

>>20265354
>this is an anime website
Why do people always use this retort? Anime sucks and the site has outgrown being a 2ch fork.

>>20258357
nice

>>20270514
Ouch. Sheesh...

>>20258173
I liked it though

>>20260813
You've just convinced me to read this.

>>20268450
Love triangle anime with rich crazy girl and tsundere loli

>>20258173

>>20271785
Did you not know what a Hail Mary was?

>>20259045
Kafka was engaged 3 times, was liked by women and went to whorehouses, he definitely did not die a virgin.
You must be retarded

>>20264586
>>20270562
This is an anime website
You are not welcome

>>20261058
WUTHERING
WUTHERINGG
WUTHERINGGGGGG HEIGHTS
HEATHCLIFF! ITS ME! CATHY!

>>20271937
stfu kafka apologizer

pretty good though

great book, a lot more funnier than its reputation will lead you to believe

>>20270502
Keep telling yourself that sweetie
>>20270514
Aww, it's pretending to know what successful men are like.

this is falseflaggin
>>20262171

Does anyone have the Handmaid's Tale one where What I Got has "tfw no bf tfw no sex""

>>20259045
Kafka had many relationships and was a whoremonger. He wasn't a virgin

>>20271842
i do now lol, i'm not native english speaker and they kept the same title
maybe that explains why the character is called Grace

>>20260734
I thought that was the point he was "torturing" himself

>>20263837
what was it?

>>20271975
are you pre or post-op?

>>20273338
>post-op
that stuff always wants to make me vomit
>pre-op
that too but to a lesser degree

>>20273338
>post-op
that stuff always make me want to vomit
>pre-op
that too but to a lesser degree

>>20268280
Kek

>>20265390
100% accurate

>>20258173

I liked it.

>>20273456
Demons very much feels like the spark that starts the What you expect.

>>20273338
Not welcome
This means you should go

>>20260813
Haha, yeah. This is pretty accurate. He seems like a gossip

>>20274643
> that starts the What you expect.
I don't understand

>>20274002
I hate yudkowsky

>>20271037
thoreau was 32 when he wrote that essay

>>20274962
So funny. I am an atheist, but the last few years I have been thinking that one of the scariest aspects of atheism is how it destroys artistic judgment. Thank you for this.

>>20274962
>>20275348
I hate him too. I'm no Christian but holy fuck does he seem to miss the point. He's a Bugman to end all bugmen.

>>20258320
Kek, that ones great.
>>20261058
It’s incredible to me people still want to get with Heathecliffe.

>>20272163
hahaha

>>20275671
Even as a joke, this does not work whatsoever. The third pic should just be Hitchens in a my chemical romance outfit or something..

>>20264469
needs more incest

>>20274962
That's from twelve years ago, come on. Also, he's not wrong that the Bible isn't particularly well-written. People who say that just point to traditional and how it's a pillar of civilization and how much other works reference it, not because it's good but because it was the only omnipresent cultural text that people knew.

>>20274962
Meanwhile Scott Alexander writes Torah fanfic
I know who has my vote

>>20266262

>>20275705
>needs more incest
Ordering this book immediately

>>20272207
absolutely based

>>20274933
>I don't understand
Demons foreshadows the communist revolution

>>20262211
Checked and keked

>>20268484
kek saved

>>20268450
Down to having an edgelord frenemy rival.

>>20261058
Kate's bush

>>20277731
I'm going to start this book in a few weeks

>>20272207
Anything shady I should know about as a Catholic getting into Huysmans' work?

>>20274665
So you are a tranny!

>>20277985
so it was bad?

>>20268484
Klaus Schwab made this meme
>>20269610
>not Marcel's Creek

fuckin coaxed me into a snafu

>>20278115
No, it was great.

>>20277842
Yes, don't be such a stick in the mud

>>20277738
It's kino

>>20265327
>ugly bastard

>>20273338
Homerun buddy now go back.

>>20258173
I could had spend the money on another book about the roman republic

Bump

>>20263522
would love to see Charlie in that position, the preparation for the duel is one of my favorite parts

>>20278864
My theory is that Geralt’s palpable sexual tension with Ciri ended up causing his death

>>20275293
age, whether excess or lack therof, does not excuse shit writing unless you're below grade nine reading level.

>>20274002
Why did I read this? I get rationally angry whenever I see it

Do another Proust one again again

>>20269610
>>20280246

>>20280257
lintraeellylllyy me

I legitimately did not know we(US) had had a secret war with Laos, among other things in this book.

>>20280287
yeah there was also a plan to deploy nuclear weapons in Vietnam

>>20280293
Learning history can be powerful but I feel like knowing too many facts like these will give me mental illness. Shit makes me depressed.

>>20280305
Makes me hate the antichrist more every day.

>>20263638
He's talking more about Farnese desu

>>20280409
>lives her days as a mad woman
admittedly farnese was pretty crazy but i'm still almost certain he meant casca. farnese was only crazy when she was first introduced and then she just stopped being crazy with no explanation. plus she didn't GO crazy FROM trying to fight against men.

>>20280514
Wanted to read this but was turned off by the supernatural elements. My hope that it was some sort of sci-fi technology diminished page by page

>>20268450
Yes but no author alive would now have the balls to end it the way he did

>>20270120
It’s disappointing how much Britain lacks a truly great 19th century political novel. Good thing there are always biographies, but still a shame

>>20278276
Funny how the "What I Read" is the least accurate depiction.

>>20279814
is it that bad?

>>20278210
underrated

>>20267216
underrated

>>20274962
>Say what you like about Shakespeare, there's no way I could do better in five minutes
this guy makes harry potter fanfics and he thinks he's a better writer than shakespeare.

>if those words had been in the first chapter of Genesis, everyone would think it was great poetry
but it isn't, and nothing that awful exists anywhere in genesis. also how does this pass the "five-minutes test"? he's claiming he could do better, but then he's contradicting himself by saying "people wouldn't notice if this were put in genesis". that doesn't mean it's better, that just means compared to the rest of genesis people can overlook 4 uninspired trash lines

>>20258672
I am neither tired of this Earth nor excited for it. I am neither tired nor excited of being caught in the tangle of their feels

>>20268450
It unironically is.

>>20272207
You get both, the expectation and the get

>>20281223
Kek
I wish he would have escalated things even more, I think the book ended too early.

>>20258173

>>20281223
i wish i was that chick on the right...
...in the abstract

>>20281386
>>20281122
FUCK THIS CHICK

>>20281386
Nice.

>>20281379
So I should skip Dune entirely

>>20258173

>>20280502
Kek

>>20279814
This is the only bad take on this thread.

>>20282233
cope, soiboi

>>20279814
Kek I enjoyed it but this is true. More accurate for Hesse's other shit though.

>>20282233
If you think Steppenwolf's message is in any way aligned with the onions agenda you just got filtered embarrassingly hard. Maybe for the next one of these threads you could consider something with some smaller words more appropriate to your level. Pic related

>>20282281
>seething

>>20268450
I couldn't stop imagining the characters in the anime style
No other author does this to me

>>20260813
I don't get the last one

>>20282281
You can't recommend high quality literature like this to people who got filtered by Steppenwolf of all things.

>>20282432
This is really bugging you, isn't it.

>>20258173
I read: retarded nonsense on 4chan
I expected: retarded nonsense on 4chan
I got: retarded nonsense beyond my wildest dreams

>>20266218
100%

>>20277731
they are both correct

>>20280502
Bretty gud

aren't we missing caesar and corn?

>>20280502
lol'd at this

>>20279814
Anon... were you expecting Hesse to have written some DC Werewolf Erotica? This board never fails to deliver

>>20277927
Based
>>20278276
>>20264469
Kek

Does anyone have the three from C.S. Lewis's cosmic trilogy?

>>20278276
Needs more traveling circus carnies and an androgyne

>>20278276
Woops meant for >>20264469.
But still applies

>>20258173

>>20280287
here's a template for future use.

>>20277927
I started reading it from start to finish. At the 'what I expected' part where jews are killing a shitload of arabs and other jews.

At what point does it become the 'what I got' part?

>>20283018
goddamnit, no fucking goddamnit this book better not be shit i had my hopes up

>>20283018
it was both really

>>20283309
It is incredibly overrated, but decent enough as far as western sci-fi goes.

>>20283309
I’m just memeing. I really liked it

>>20268484
saved

Bump

>>20260137
>>20259042
>>20258272

>>20275671
>>20275686
It would be more accurate for something like The Sinister Tradition by O9A

>>20283018
Bro you a death metal fan?

>>20275293
It just kind of reminded me of a guy in a bar packing heat with a trucker hat on saying "LEMME TELL YA WHATS WRONG WITH THE WORLD" I felt I was being lectured to, it was enjoyable at least.

bumping up with a classic

>>20283259
Ecclesiaties, Psalms, Corinthians

>>20284845
Duh

>>20281122
i want the name of the film in (What I got)

>>20286545

>>20288633
fucking kek

>>20288825
Your expectations describe the book much more accurately desu

>>20288835
Yeah I'm just shitposting, the whole trilogy is great (even CotP) but I still think it's funny how McCarthy includes "he ate the rest of the beans and used a tortilla to wipe up the plate and ate the tortilla and drank the rest of the coffee and told the woman gracias por su hospitalidad and got on his horse and rode off" a dozen times in all of his westerns.

>>20287597
You forgot about the bread.

>>20258222
>>20260462

It is probably one of the most misunderstood books I can think of.

Brainlets post /pol/ memes with one quote about "colored races" and they think Spengler is some ebin based race war type and completely miss the point. Spengler wanted to write an epic tone-poem that would be read as such.

>>20282844
checked, bumped, and I want to see how anon covered Ransom
I almost made my own for THS (expected 1984, got I Have No Mouth and I Must Seek the Holy Grail)

>>20284805
Fuck, now I have to read another one of his books. Is there even another author?

>>20282455
any history based on darwinian theory is inevitably libcucked and retarded.

>>20280502
both true

>>20284805
most of the book is set in Germany. the gambler only goes to Paris to waste money and enjoy life.

>>20259045
Kafka pulled pussy no problemo.

>>20277738
Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

>>20277985
You know the name of the painting of the capped man with the big horse and the angel?

>>20280781
No, it's more like a reverse Dostoievsky.

>>20287265
Tokyo Godfathers

>>20281992
Kek accurate. Shreve best character.

>>20263797
One of the few, where the movie improves on the original. Raoul is a retarded kid and leaving Erik without real positive characteristics is leaving it a lame duck.

>>20272291
trying to le own people on 4chan doesn't work because you are literally posting in the crab bucket

>>20290128
The two characters who started everything and ruined everything were French

>>20262397
that cover art is doing things to me

>>20290218
At least the ending line was good. The book itself was pretty stunningly mediocre.

>>20281122
sauce on the jav on the right

Good afternoon, I hate women.

>>20291255
You shouldn’t read books. I’m guessing it’s Caddy you hate. Why?

>>20290189
Allegory of hubris - Johnny Morant

>>20291260
Candace turns the family's decline into a terminal one. Fucks around and tries to entrap a man to take care of the child by deceiving him that it's his. Even though her mother approves of this scheme and even wants to make him pay child support after the divorce, she later refuses to take the money she sends for Quentin's upkeep by burning the checks. Candace also sends her own daughter to the dysfunctional home she grew up and keeps here there even when she has the money to keep her anywhere.
As a result the daughter shares her fate and it is only by chance that she ends up with thousands of dollars and free instead of destitute or imprisoned.
All in all these three female characters are even worse than their male counterparts.

>>20276557
Dostoevsky's works as a whole do, Demons is just on that topic so its impossible to miss.
Myshkin in "the Idiot" never made a wrong prophecy, just that the one about the old aristocracy being destroyed if it doesn't get its shit together was fulfilled outside of its pages.

>>20291352
Nah. Jason’s clearly the worst. I laugh every time Quentin gets the better of him at the end of the book. He deserves it. Quentin wouldn’t be a bitch if her family was normal. Not her fault. Caddy didn’t like the banker guy, so why should she marry him? To get her dickhead brother a job? Lol. No. Oh, the horror of a teenage girl having sex with a guy she likes! Sex isn’t a big deal.

>>20291352
doesn't Jason burn the checks? or manipulate his mother into burning the checks? you might've missed the point completely on this one. also this >>20291425 caddy and quentin don't owe Jason shit.

>>20291429
Yeah I didn’t even see how he interpreted the check situation. He was stealing money a mother was sending to her daughter and giving the his mother fake checks to burn. He’s clearly the scumbag of the book

>>20291255
based

>>20280244
Would you recommend it? It looks interesting

>>20291896
Not him but it's very good.

>>20291903
Thanks, I'll check it out :)

>>20291873
He didn’t even understand the plot. He isn’t in a position to judge

>>20288633
accurate

>>20291938
Alright nigger I just wanted to go to sleep and not take up space in a thread about to reach the bump limit but it looks like you are going to seethe about something I made in 30 seconds for the next 2 days so might as well argue a bit.
1. Caddy is marrying the banker for the sake of her child. Jason isn't forcing her but he is the one male in the family ok with scamming him because of the promised job. Quentin is against it because of muh honour. It's implied her own father reveals to him that the child isn't his.
> “And you didn’t even see him? You didn’t even try to get him to make any provision for it?” and Father says “No she shall not touch his money not one cent of it” and Mother says “He can be forced to by law. He can prove nothing, unless——Jason Compson,” she says. “Were you fool enough to tell—”
2. This is not about her promiscuity but about trying to entrap another man. In any case the book is set in the early 20th century so sleeping around was a big deal. For her brother Quentin in particular, who killed himself because of it.
3. Yes Jason is manipulating his mother into burning them to steal the money. I don't see how this justifies his mother's actions just as I don't understand how growing up in shitty conditions justifies any of the unsavoury behaviours of the rest of the Compson family. It is not even revealed whether he convinced her to burn the checks at the beginning or she started doing so herself out of pride and he devised his scheme around it, giving her a push whenever she had a moment of doubt.
4. Even without the checks situation Caroline Compson is definitely not a good character but one of the main sources of the family's misfortunes.