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Lolita
discuss it

>> No.2024910
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oh man, let's discuss the book that made my fiance dump me and have her 3 brothers jump me that same night because she saw it on my shelf thought it was child porn

great book though

>> No.2024914

>>2024910
what the fuck

People are that retarded?

>> No.2024916

>>2024914
either that never happened or this was an engagement between two religious, homeschooled 17-year-olds

>> No.2024918

BUT IT IS SEXUALLY GRAPHIC IN NATURE DEALING WITH ADOLESCENCE

FACE IT, THE BOOK YOU HOLD SO HIGH AND MIGHTY CAN JUSTIFIABLY BE GROUPED WITH THE REST OF THE CRAP PEDOS GET OFF ON.

NOT SAYING IT'S BAD, EVEN THOUGH I DID NOT LIKE IT.

>> No.2024923

>>2024918
You would have liked it if it was originally written in Russian, so you could read it translated.

>> No.2024925

>>2024918
fun fact, at no point is there a single line of sexually graphic material
everything with humbert is metaphor and word play
in fact, the only nipples he ever mentions are his own, and that is in reference to the buttons on his jacket

>> No.2024928

>>2024923

Capsbro you mah nigga but you just got TOLD.

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>>2024918
>implying you actually read it

>> No.2024944

>>2024925
I wouldn't call it sexually graphic, but it is certainly erotically graphic. It's a distinction which comes out in what you had to say. There are no overt sexual details, but there is quite a bit of detail about the eroticism which Humbert feels about Lolita. I remember almost a full page early on in the novel being entirely a description about how Humbert views her thighs.

>> No.2024952

>>2024944
I would also argue that this distinction between sexual and erotic is a common thing in Nabokov's writing.
To expand it even further outside of this simple dichotomy of sex and the erotic, his work shows a penchant for remaining on the periphery of the obvious and highlighting the obvious all the more by doing so.

>> No.2024953

>>2024944

Don't forget the part where he pervs on Dolly's classmate while she jacks him off.
The part where he fucks her in a forest and gets caught by some kid and their mom.

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>was molested once by my father as a child after i initiated an inappropriate kiss
>hate him
>call him on the phone eery day and tell him to kill himself
>he finally does
>read lolita
>become filled with regret

>> No.2024961

>>2024953
And he got off by rubbing his dick on her leg when they were sitting on the couch.

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the novel: dolly is a flirtacious little girl who never expected her advance to be accepted, her mother murdered, her raped on a daily basis

the kubrick film: she's a filthy slut that wants the cock

>> No.2024974

>>2024967
I wouldn't put it that harshly. The one thing that did Irk me though was that everyone called her Lolita! Fucking so much why.jpg

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>mfw i recommend lolita to a friend and she calls me a monster

>> No.2024978

>>2024977

Why would you do that?
I recommend people American Psycho for a laugh but its so over the top that no one could take as an endorsement of the serial killer/yuppie lifestyle.
With Lolita though, some people are just that dumb.

>> No.2024979

on okay book. Not phenomenal. Don't get the hype

>> No.2024983

>>2024978
she asked what i thought where the most compelling novels of all time
i gave her a copy of the count of monte cristo
the brothers karamazov
and lolita

>> No.2024990

>>2024928
THEN HOW COME LOLITA IS THE ONLY THING BY NABOKOV I HAVE READ?

>> No.2024998

>>2024990
you mad bro?
no wait, judging from your level of posterior frustration i have to assume you are a fat woman that was never touched and resent not being molested as it is the only chance you ever had at getting laid

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I read maybe one-third of it and had to stop. I've never had any problem understanding English, but Nabokov seems to use so many adjectives unknown to me (not a native speaker), that reading was a drag. That, and the fact that there were no memorable moments and practically no characterization outside H.H. (Lolita's character was entirely two-dimensional) made me open Haruki Murakami's After Dark instead on my e-reader. Loving every page of it.

>> No.2025305

>>2024998
WELCOME TO /LIT/, YOU MUST BE NEW HERE

>> No.2025410

>>2024925
youre my hero mister

>> No.2025418

>>2025296
Nab's prose IS the memorable moment of Lolita.


(btw I hate it when people all caps a word to place emphasis on it. Always come across as forced and inorganic.)

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>>2025418
Well, I guess I'm more of a story n' characters guy.
­>­mfw prose is a moment
­>­mfw I'm greentexting without the text being green

>> No.2025437

>>2025423
Can't cut you for that. Totally understand. Me though, my brain tosses characters and plot into the flurry twirl of themes and language. I can't experience the story so much, and rather feel what the writer has meant to express through words, so far as my interpretation takes it.

>> No.2025460

>>2025437
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate evocative description and "texture" in general. I guess my ideal novel falls somewhere between purple prose and pure story telling, leaning towards the latter.

Of course there are always exceptions. Usually, If I don't want my book to include anything but adjectives, adverbs and internal monologue, then I'd rather read prose poetry than a novel, but if the novel is exceptional, then I might enjoy it in spite of the style (say, a stream of consciousness).

>> No.2025469

>>2025460
Normally I would agree with you, but Lolita is purple prose done right, and justified.

>> No.2025472

>>2025469
Not disagreeing with you there. It was obviously expertly written (made me jealous, being a wannabe writer myself), but the English was too advanced for me and since the concept was a bit eh, I thought I'd skip it for now, and come back to it later when I can better appreciate it.

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itt: paedophiles

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>>2025508
I know I'm talking to a troll, but if reading a book about a pedophile makes the reader one, then aren't we all serial killers, single-parents and aliens? Or maybe I'm just not following your logic.

>> No.2025514

>>2025513
Lolita is a shit book, and if you enjoy it or think it's deepz, then you're only justifying it because it defends your own sexual deviances.

>> No.2025520

>>2025514
Now that's just retarded.

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>>2025520

>> No.2025538

Wait people actually still condemn this book?

My lecturer recommended it to the whole aula and I see students read it inbetween classes.

Never read it, I'm going to pick it up in a library.

>> No.2025544

>>2025513

>Single parents being lumped in with serial killers.

>> No.2025551

>>2025544
Way to dodge the point by nitpicking.

>> No.2025555

>>2025551

I agree with what he's saying, but the fact that he lumped single parents with serial killers sticks out more.

>> No.2025557

>>2025555
It was an example of an extreme most posters on /lit/ wouldn't identify themselves as simply because they read something with that happened to be the focus.

>> No.2025646

>>2024925
at one point in the novel Humbert mentions that a fly lands on one of Lolita's areolas. If you didn't bother to look up areola, then don't start spewing your no-nipple nonsense

>> No.2025696

One of my favorite novels of all time. Read it for a college class, and I swear like 3/4 of the people in it were offended as shit. I just thought Humbert was a clever lovable bastard with a slight problem, but NOOOO HES A MONSTER

>> No.2025715

>>2025696
humbert is a total bro until its dicking time
but when it's dicking time he is a heartless monster that eats innocence