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1984 Vs. Brave New World
Which is better and why.

>Must choose a side.
>Can't Change sides.
>Can use other works as references.
>Must prove the oher side wrong.
>No Fallacies!

>> No.2024869

this is such a novel idea for a thread

>> No.2024874

>>2024869
Why, Thanks! :P

>> No.2024877

Huxley. Enough is said in this comic:
http://www.egodialogues.com/words-language/huxley-orwell.php

>> No.2024885

Huxley.

>> No.2024887

>>2024859
They're based in the two alternative world-system that the USA and the USSR wanted to create.

1984 is about a deformed workers state, like North Korea.

Brave New World is about "the end of history", the erradication of problems, the little interest of humans and their hipnotical ignorance. Like the actual USA population.


Both are extremely right, and both dystopies have their own real counterparts. Anyway, North Korea is just like Oceania, so 1984 is way ahead.

>> No.2024904

Orwell shot an elephant. What did Huxley do? Oh yeah, he got high.

But they are both awesome novels. And they are both right, as Ziggy stated.

>> No.2025378

>>2024877
>>2024877

wow /thread

>> No.2025383

>>2024904
A sad day when a man has to destroy a thing of beauty to justify his existence.

>> No.2025388

I think 1984 is a better book, but Brave New World is a more accurate depiction of our future

>> No.2025392

>yfw when 4chan is exactly the sort of "society" that Huxely was afraid of

>> No.2025394

>>2025378
The comic implies Orwell was wrong. Too bad for him, I live in Singapore. It's Orwell and Huxley combined. It also seems to work quite well.

>> No.2025395

WE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T COPY SHIT FROM ANYONE

>> No.2026182

Orwell depicts totalitarianism, while Huxley excesive consumption.
I think Orwell's novel was more cultural and thoughtful.

>> No.2026187

>>2025395
Have you read Darkness at Noon?

>> No.2026210

1984 was more entertaining, but it was also stupid as fuck.

BNW was less entertaining, but better-conceived.

>> No.2026221

Obviously 1984 is the superior work of art here, and for a quite simple reason : its word count ridicules Brave New World's.

That is all.

>> No.2026224

>Must prove the oher side wrong.
They weren't trying to predict the future.
Invalid topic.

>> No.2026227

>>2024859
Why do we have to choose between the thesis and antithesis? It would be much better to create a synthesis of the two.

>> No.2026232

>>2026224

By proving the other side wrong I didn't mean to "try to see who concieved future better". Anyway, if that's the way you see it.

The objective of proving the other side wrong is, for example, saying that the word count doesn't have anything to do to the artistical value and so.

>> No.2026238

>>2026227
That would be if we were tying to end up with a final product. And that's not it. We are just debating artistical values.

>> No.2026274

Huxley was always off his tits high as hell so his works were probably better

>> No.2026281

Fahrenheit 451, here. Fuck 1984 and BNW.

>> No.2026807

Why do you guys enjoy reading dystopian books? Real life is depressing enough, go read some utopian literature. Any recommendations?

>> No.2026868

1984 is good, but overrated and misinterpreted a lot..so I'm going to have to go with BNW.

>> No.2026879

H. G. Wells The Time Machine

Fucking overrated novels in the OP with about as much depth as District 9.

>> No.2027001

yevgeny zamyatin here, you guys are all fags

>> No.2027247
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>> No.2027248

Jesus chrsit, this thread has been alive for three days

It is begging for death

Someone kill it please

>> No.2027262

>>2027247
This picture always annoyed me. The person who made it didn't understand the point of 1984, Orwell didn't write about all of the censorship and control from the government because he feared it and was trying to "warn" us, they are all elements of a totalitarian government and the story took place in a dystopia, and the totalitarian government was just a means to cause the dystopia.

>> No.2027266

>>2027262
holy shit.

no. you are wrong. you are entirely wrong. orwell was trying to describe the way totalitarian societies functioned, the logical extension of totalitarianism. that was the whole point. it's a political novel. what the fuck are you talking about, "he just wanted a dystopia". no he didn't, this ain't some fallout shit, what the fuck are you even talking about.

>> No.2027270

>>2027247
Again, I live in Singapore. It's both these things and somehow works.

>> No.2027482

bump

>> No.2027497

I prefer BNW but that is because 1984 has been picked up and used by people so much in general culture that it's not as entertaining as reading it blind.

Similar example is me not finding the Clockwork Orange movie as enjoyable on first viewing as almost every scene has been parodied to death.