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>>20238539
No, only God can save souls, but He can use that book to lead you to and teach you about Him.

>>20238539
Your soul doesn't need saving. Don't fall for cultish fear mongering

>>20239550
enjoy burning in hell ;)

>>20239573
Hell doesn't exist. Stop larping as a religious fundamentalist on an anime forum

>>20238539
No. Only being an active part of a local community can save your soul. It doesn't even have to be religious or spiritual, nothing you do in isolation will be anything other than intellectual masturbation.

>>20240855
>Hell doesn't exist.
Prove that.

>>20241147
God is all loving = no hell
Cope about it all you want but it's true

>>20240855
>Hell doesn't exist.
We'll find out

>>20241154
Warning: believing in hell makes it possible for you to go there

>>20241152
>God is all good and loving
>He would not be good if he had no justice for evil
>so hell exists

>>20241152
God loves you so much he gives you all the time the choice of accepting him. If still you decide not to and then go to hell that’s not God’s fault but your own.

>>20241157
Not believing in hell makes it guarateed on the other hand.

>>20241161
This

>>20241161
I've strapped semtex to your dick. If you chose not to sign your entire life over to me it's your fault when I blow your dick off.

>>20241159
>>He would not be good if he had no justice for evil
Source?
And source on the substantial existence of evil?
>>20241161
>all the time
No, since my life is finite and hell would be eternal if it existed.
>>20241162
You're wasting your time, retarded fear tactics don't work on me. You should try to abandon this ridiculous conditioning, it's making you afraid of nonexistent things

>>20241173
I mean, do you follow your country’s laws? It’s the same thing with God, you can’t do things which are forbidden otherwise you’ll pay the price.

>>20241192
So God is an authoritarian bearucrat?

>>20241192
>I mean, do you follow your country’s laws?
No
And the god of Israel isn't my god

>>20241199
No, but it is your fault of breaking his laws the same way it is your fault breaking your country’s laws.
>>20241200
So besides of being a blasphemer you’re a criminal too? At least you’re honest.

>>20241225
>blasphemer
But I don't give a shit about your false god so what makes you think I'll view this as valid criticism?

>>20241225
>yes but I'll say no and then explain how you are correct
Cool

>>20241183
>Source?

You obviously haven't read the old testament, read all of the books of Moses and you'll see very clearly how much God focuses on justice.

>>20241313
>source for the bible being true?
>"the bible"
Every time.

>>20241228
A couple hundred years ago you would have been burned alive for that

>>20241325
That has nothing to do with what I just said

>>20241329
Keep your impotent revenge fantasies to yourself, loser
>>20241334
Yes it does

>>20241152
God is loving and just*

Also love /=/ tolerance.

>>20241161
How is this love? My mother, my immediate creator, loves me, and there are 0 circumstances under which she would want me to burn in that garbage disposal valley for all of eternity. God is pure hate.

>>20242721
Well your mother gave birth to you but she is not your creator. There is only one Creator. God doesn't want to burn you in the fire but he gave mankind rules to follow and if you don't follow them or don't ask forgiveness for what you did than you place yourself in the fire. Not His fault really.

>>20241142
this is a pretty based answer. it appears that "local communities" have been going away throughout the years.. bowling leagues that one sociologist talked about..your local church..I can't imagine suburbia has any sort of communities. so with that said, what local communities are left? I certainly don't feel apart of any "community" except my family that sort of lives near me, and the type of work I do (which is pretty niche)

>>20242920
This is so retarded I really can't imagine how some people unironically believe in it. I mean I know you're larping but it baffles me there are people who think this is actually what happenss

>>20242920
>God doesn't want to burn you in the fire
So he shouldn't have made it possible to burn in the fire, let alone made the fire in the first place.
>rules to follow
Infinite good is infinite forgiveness.
>you place yourself
Makes no sense on several levels.
1. eternal punishment using a finite lifetime as benchmark is nonsensical
2. I can't make a truly informed choice about the matter without actual proof of God so until he shows himself to me I'm not actually placing myself anywhere
3. I don't want to be tortured for eternity, so anything that would have this happen to me would have to come from an outside force. So it's not actually my choice

It's 100% his fault, or hell doesn't exist (spoiler: it's the latter)

>>20242920
>There is only one creator
Bullshit. My mom created me, the supposed Creator created the conditions that caused my mom.
>God doesn't want you to go to hell
God doesn't want you to go to hell in the sense as he wants you to believe in him and his son. God created hell as a punishment. He wants you to go to hell if you dont believe in him.
>Its not his fault
God created hell and made it absurdly easy for a reasonable person to enter it. Any pagan never exposed to christ goes to hell. Anyone who was born to non-christian parents and never goes to your specific denominations church. Anyone who is skeptical about claims that cannot be proven empirically and that come from a book with many falsehoods or "allegories". If this was any other circumstance you would say the creator of such a retarded system would be at fault.
>God is love
The original point stands. He has less love for you than a mother. It is hard to see how he has anything other than wrath.

>>20243185
>He wants you to go to hell if you dont believe in him.
Do you realize how petty this sounds

>>20243185
>>20243202
Sorry I misread your post, I agree with you on your conclusion. I need to get some sleep

>>20243082
Well only the people who wage rebellion against God and don't follow Him go and burn. It's because they're the ones causing mischief through the lands and corrupting the people.

>So he shouldn't have made it possible to burn in the fire
Yes He should have because it's punishment for the evildoers.

>Infinite good is infinite forgiveness.
Doesn't make sense. Most atheists doesn't make sense since they are illogical. Infinite good means you punish the evildoers and don't allow for mischief

>>20243185
>My mom created me
Well you're a disbeliever so of course you're going to say that. But she did not create you she only gave birth to you.

>God created hell and made it absurdly easy for a reasonable person to enter it
God is very merciful actually which is why he gave us the Divine Revelation. So all you have to avoid the fire is follow the mandates and laws he gave mankind to follow. If He wanted to make it easy to enter hell He wouldn't have given us these things. Get it?