/lit/ - Literature

>>20228682
Kino. That’s fucking amazing cover, first time I’ve seen it.

Fun

>>20228682
Dialogue interspersed between gratuitous descriptions of violence and desert landscapes

So. Many. Desert. Landscapes.

>>20228682
Why does the cover always get worse when they change it?

some bald fuck acts like notorious big’s friend gutter. also, indians.

>>20228682
PIÑON
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The most overrated literary slog this side of the atlantic

>>20228882
bait

The kid pointed to the mountain, hey that looks like a skull. Glanton spat. They rode on and talked about the mountain and raped an indian and rode on.

>Three copies for me, my wife and my wife’s son for the newest Cormac McCarthy, genre-redefining, trope-subverting, atmospheric, dark and eerie, emotionally draining, gut wrenching, aesthetically heavy craft by post-modern auteur with an independent-publisher edge, dread-inducing, suspenseful build up with strong character development and gradual feeling of escalation, bone-chilling slow burn with “say more with less” approach and soul-shaking, blood-curdling, skin-crawling and nerve-wracking exercise in persistently looming dread where tension and anxiety permeates every page as the novel reaches its nail-biting, jaw-clenching and paranoia-inducing final climax, free of any cheap archetypes, cartoonish tropes or infantile fan service western literature, please.

>>20228882
This.

>>20228682
>Glenton and the Judge actually existed
Bros...

Judge Holden wasn't actually supernatural. He was just a high IQ grifter that managed to trick a bunch of dumbfuck bandits into thinking he's the anti-Christ on Earth by worming his way into their group and speaking cleverly and showing them magic tricks.

>>20229011
>Whatever deceives men seems to produce a magical enchantment
What's the difference?

>>20229016
>>20229011
Same mechanism that was at work with Fauci and Covid or climate change or Science more generally. We worship our new gods and are grifted along the way.

>>20229016
Satan archetypes exist in men more than any explicit divine affair that we care to admit.

>>20229054
I'd agree with that. Although nature can be downright satanic often.

>>20229011
t. Demiurge

> great literally prose, pulling you in to the world where you can feel the desert sun searing the skin
> “he spat”

>>20228682
>Chud Meridian

>>20228682
desd

>>20229054
Satan and divinity does not exist. The judge is a man and nothing more. That's what makes it frightening.

Heart of Darkness, but for yanks

>>20229712
Read Plato.

>>20229712
Quiet, pseud.

>>20229628
>no no no see he actually knows EVERYTHING because he has a lot of stories to tell me!!!
t. useless bum riding along glanton's crew who will probably die in a injun raid within the next few months

Reminds me of that part of the book where Tobin was gushing over Holden saying he learned "Dutch from a Dutchman", as if he must be referring to a singular encounter with a lone Dutchman.

The concept actually sounds really cool, I really want to like it but I'm seemingly incapable of withstanding the slog. The way he writes is just ridiculous to me, does it get more bearable the further you go?

>>20229898
This seems more your speed

>>20228682
I read this when I was like 20 and hardly remember anything at all.

>>20231259
well there’s this one guy who spat and ate his tortilla and drank his coffee and spat and scalped an indian and then he spat again

>>20229910
kino desu

>>20228882
>slog
book can be finished in like 2 days, one of the criticisms about it that makes the least sense

>>20229898
The style takes inspiration from the KJV bible and Moby Dick. If you are unfamiliar with either it might be a difficult read (if you’re a brainlet)

McCarthy has a dark and dry voice that fit really well with the story. Some scenes are very vivid. The story meanders but it builds slowly and if you pay attention McCarthy juxtaposes similar events back to back to reinforce his point a few times.

>>20232511
>2 days worth of descriptions of deserts

Sounds like a dream

>>20232560
If you ever lived in the American south-west you’d find the descriptions actually supremely comfy and kino.

>>20232560
Needs more quips

>>20228682
a short little book on texmex topography and geology

>>20232554
Things pick up when they sell the scalps for the first time. I almost dropped it right before that chapter. Glad I didn’t.

>>20233024
That part was good but it was the Comanche scene in ch5 that hooked me.

>>20228682
An incredible story

>>20228943
They would scalp not rape, did you even read it?

>>20229027
Believeing what your told and not what you see and know

>>20233268
>Men were wading about in the red waters hacking aimlessly at the dead and some lay coupled to the bludgeoned bodies of young women dead or dying on the beach.

And he opened the beans and he looked at the beans and he smelt them too and then he ate a spoonful of the beans and the beans carried the flame for all man unto death do us part and then he stabbed a feral cat in the forehead and they rode ahead.

>>20233693
>he stabbed a feral cat in the forehead
Why'd he do it bros?

>>20233703
Little cunt looked at him funny.

idk, i dropped it after uhh i dont even remember, they were mostly just riding the whole time and killing people, it was pretty boring

>>20233729
I mean most of the novel is the glanton gang dropping any pretense of injun hunting and just going around acting like complete niggers.

>>20228682
Started reading it for the first time yesterday, almost finished. I'm sure a reread would allow me to pick up on more. So far its engaging. The judge seems the most interesting character by far. Has the most to say anyway. The descriptions of the southwest are very long, but tell a lot about the reality of those places. Its a fascinating read, I like it a lot. All the "ands" are very different and sometimes make me slow down and not skim.
>>20233693
Made me lol

>>20233693
>carried the flame for all man unto death do us part

>>20228882
correct. also break out the thesaurus for the interminable desert landscapes.

>>20228965
kek

>>20229898
Yeah it's cringe dude.
>it sounds like da Bible, dat means it's le Ebin!
Probably some of the most Reddit shit ever published. /lit/ only fellates it because it's male babby's first lit outside of school. Infinite Jest had similar meme status here five or six years ago.

>>20233719
whoa so deep. It's like Bukowski reincarnated, kek. Talk about try-hard masculinity. McCarthy should start up a YouTube redpill channel and teach us how to pick up chicks.

>>20233831
Finished it. Honestly I didnt find the violence that shocking. The one part I was most saddened by was the end when the dancing bear gets shot in the saloon. Generally it sounds realistic except for the Judge crushing a man's head with his hand and shooting a 12 pound cannon from the hip. The rest wasnt too ridiculous and the descriptions not overly vivid imo. To somebody used to Harry Potter I suppose it would seem so. I liked it. I agree with other posters who said if you have lived in the southwest it resonates more with all the landscape description, though at points it gets a bit much.

>>20234711
>NOT THE HECKIN' BIG CHUNKER DANCEY BOY!!!

>>20234732
Yeah poor bear. Was just dancing around with his tongue out. Got shot once and then danced faster. A shame.

>>20234711
The judge was about 7 feet tall and 24 stone (almost 340 pounds). He didn’t crush the idiot’s brother’s head, but he scared him when he grasped it. He never fired the howitzer when the Yumas attacked, only pointed it at them when they entered his tent. Surprised you didn’t mention when he threw a goddamn anvil as an impossible feat of strength instead.

>>20234778
He crushed a mexican's head with a single hand in the bar fight when he slashed at him with a knife

>>20233038
For me it's where the judge accuses the preacher of being a kiddy fiddler in his tent and all hell breaks loose

>>20234791
>”But the judge was like a cat and he sidestepped the man and seized his arm and broke it and picked the man up by his head. He put him against the wall and smiled at him but the man had begun to bleed from the ears and the blood was running down between the judge’s fingers and over his hands and when the judge turned him loose there was something wrong with his head and he slid to the floor and did not get up”
Picked up with both hands and it’s not like he caved it in. Believable for a huge man to do that to a tiny mexican.

>>20234711
>The one part I was most saddened by was the end when the dancing bear gets shot in the saloon.
>not when the judge buys puppies from a poor Mexican kid only to drown them right in front of him
what the fuck was that

>>20228682
You are in for me telling you in Stern tones that this book is not for me and this website is bad for you so please leave it as soon as possible thank you

>>20234964
>the puppies
>not the delaware smashing baby heads together
>not the baby tree in the middle of the desert

ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.

>>20235040
>tl;dr
you trolled yourself

>>20235020
That was terrible but expected; you were witnessing a bunch of thugs halfway through a massacre.
The fucking puppies, though.

>>20235207
>BUT THE HECKIN PUPPERINOS
thank you for the most reddit thing i've read all day

>>20228682
Reddit incarnate.

>>20229054
>>20229117
>>20229011
Judge Holden is another example of writing the Gnostic Demiurge as the antagonist. Now, before people start trying to derail the thread debating the validity of religions such as Gnosticism, it doesn't matter. The simple fact is that many modern writers have chosen to imprint their stories with veiled Gnostic allegory.
Blood Meridian is an absolutely wonderful book. The desert passages have filtered many people. I myself had to look up certain words the first time I read it long ago.
As a work of literature it is a classic and timeless piece of Americana. It takes the reader back to a time before safe spaces, before Xanax and Tinder when the mere act of surviving was a feat in and of itself, much less thriving.
McCarthy's prose is strong and masculine and my best advice for anyone reading it for the first time is to take it slow and savor every phrase.

>>20235284
>Judge Holden is another example of writing the Gnostic Demiurge as the antagonist.
You should've stopped there. The rest of your post is pure unadulterated cringe.

>>20235227
lmao get a grip you absolute retard

>>20235284
Nice pasta.

I really don't understand what makes everyone say this book is reddit, then again, I don't use reddit

>>20235308
Thank you, was original but feel free to use as copypasta.

>>20235309
Anything that achieves wide popularity becomes reddit. If the Third Reich resurrected (inshallah) and gained a foothold among the majority, people on here would be posting s0ijaks of SS officers.

>>20235333
>wahhh they called my heckin favourite book reddit

I gave blood meridan two tries. Both times dropped it halfway through. Not sure why /lit/ creams so hard over this book but it's not for me. I swear I was looking up more words than I was for my Spanish reading. Didn't like the characters or the story either.

>>20235343
Kek it's not even close to my favorite book

>>20235359
yeah blood meridian filtered tons of people

>>20235379
if anything, only brainlets push through and finish bad books just so they aren't "filtered"

>>20235394
Yeah people who enjoy Blood Meridian are the brainlets not this guy:
>I swear I was looking up more words than I was for my Spanish reading

>>20235398
yes i'm sure words like purlieu, sacristy, silkmulioned, trailspades, swale, pyracantha, and so forth are common knowledge and I'm an illiterate ape for lacking such basic vocabulary

>>20235416
for reference, i'm not against flowery vocabulary--I'm a big fan of Shakespeare--but throwing the whole thesaurus at the reader is not good writing. reminds of gabriel marquez, ugh.

>>20235302
Slit your wrists.

>>20228965
get ahold of yourself

>>20235416
Its been awhile since I read it but I honestly don't remember difficult vocab being an issue. It's true to the time period so yeah you're going to get weird shit like "bung starter". Big deal you get to learn a new word. Stop being a baby.

So what the fuck was in the outhouse?

>>20232523
Not him but started reading blood meridian the day I finished moby dick. Pretty good so far but the lack of punctuation is killing me.

>>20235343
kek

>>20235619
Diarrhea

>>20235593
you probably just skipped over the words and forgot about them. that seems to be what /lit/ does with this book, because as the other anon pointed out, no one knows those words as part of a "natural" vocabulary. McCarthy went to his thesaurus to write this, and he intentionally sent you to your dictionary - unless you weren't paying as much attention to the work as you all pretend to have done.

When they kill that guy for refusing to serve a "nigger" shit was funny. My favourite part of the book. Wish it had more humour like that.

>>20234964
>what the fuck was that
He literally rapes and murders kids allt throughout and you care about some faggot puppies?
Besides,they're mexican puppies anyway.

Holden is such a shit character and gets mogged by everyone else especially to glanton.

>>20235832
I like the part where the farrier refuses to cut the barrels off of Brown's guns because it would be butchering them