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20225356 No.20225356 [Reply] [Original]

Can we talk about King Athur and the works associated with him?

Is there a /lit/ reading list for this kind of thing?

>> No.20225359

Otto Rahn, Kreuzzug gegen der Graal

>> No.20225379

>>20225359
Well...I guess getting put on yet another government list couldn't hurt.

>> No.20225407
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>> No.20225423

>>20225356
The ingenious gentleman Don Quixote of la Mancha

>> No.20225443

>>20225356
I like Sir Gawain and the Green Knight as an introduction text. Anyway, you could also look at Don Quixote as another anon pointed out, but I think you will find it’s not exactly what you are looking for.

Have you read any of the King Arthur lore recently?

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This was a list some anon posted on here some time ago. I haven’t started going through it yet so I can’t say how good it is though.

>> No.20225456
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And heres the second part of it

>> No.20225542

>>20225443
>Have you read any of the King Arthur lore recently?

Malory, de Troyes, and Once and Future King.

Currently listening to Tolkien's translation of Green Knight.

>> No.20225549

>>20225407
>>20225452
>>20225456
Thanks, this is the kind of stuff I was looking for.

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I just came here for the Pepe I didn't already have.

>> No.20226674

>>20225407
I have that exact copy of Orlando Furioso.
If you going to read it you might as well read Orlando Innamorato as well since it was written as a continuation of that unfinished work.

>> No.20227719

Anybody read Evola's mystery of the grail? Very good read, showing analagous symbols from other ancient Traditions, I can't read ancient European myth and legend without noticing deeper symbolic/esoteric meaning now.

>> No.20227796

>>20225452
>>20225456
i personally learned arthurian legend using this list as a base and it's pretty good.
i would add:
"stanzaic morte arthur"
"of arthour and of merlin"
and the "kairo-ko" for the weeb points

>> No.20228117

>>20225565
That is Apu, not Pepe.

>> No.20229594

>>20225407
>>20225452
>>20225456
Thanks

>> No.20230039

Mists of Avalon is a must read.

>> No.20230088

>>20230039
No, it's pozzed

>> No.20230230

>>20230039
>must read
>a woman
no thank you.

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>>20225356
Here's /sffg/'s chart

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>>20225407
>>20225549
>>20226674
I wanna say kinda cringe for going straight into orlando furioso from Arthurian romances. I know its more chason then romance, but shouldnt you really read the song of roland before the later orlando furioso so you are familiar with the depiction? If not the other major parts of the matters of france and charlemagne.

In fact, I think its due time to make a complete matters of Britian, Matters of France, and Matters of Rome guide. Or just a general Songs AND Romances catagory. Because the charlonigian cycle is hopelessly underrepresented in the anglosphere despite how influential it was.

For anyone not in the know The matters of Britian (arthurian cycle) where more “high fantasy” in element, while the matters of Frances (Charolingian cycle) where more “low fantasy” mythesised histories. THat had a little bit of magic and stuff, but usually followed the general grift of actual historic events.

>> No.20230706

>>20230257
pendragon protocol looks like a bad airport book you would see next to a lee child book.

>> No.20230797

>>20227719
Yes. Great book although I didn't fully understand it when I read it as I wasn't familiar with Arthurian legend beyond the pop culture aspects. Also cool how it ties in the Ring Cycle.

>> No.20230802

>>20227719
Kys zoomer

>> No.20230805

>>20230802
?

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>>20225356

>> No.20233205

Why did the Norman conquerors like King Arthur so much? What was their end game?

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Has anyone read this?

>> No.20233247

>>20233205
The idea of "an Arthur" returning to bully the Anglos and elevate the native Britons.

>> No.20233361

>>20225356
I don't have an opinion on canons, I just like the characters and story.
But anyone who says Arther didn't get Excaliber from the stone is an ignorant shit. It all depends on the story, and an early canon has him get Excaliber from the stone as a result of prayers for a new king. He recieves the sword from the lake hag mainly in late medieval/elizabethan retellings.
As always, question the shit people just spew out to sound intellectual.

>> No.20233368

>>20233361
There's two swords, one he pulls from the stone that breaks later and a replacement he gets from the lady of the lake.

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>>20225356
also, Bulfinch has a book on old tales of chivalry where he basically tried to edit together the best stories of both Arthurian canons in a way that he thought would make the tales more appealing to the English people of his day.
His versions of the Arthurian stories (Merlin's origins, young Arthur, recruiting the Knights, Guinevere, Lancelot, his death, and the reformation of Lancelot, etc) are all very lovingly crafted. You can tell the man read much of the source material and wanted to present the ancient lore in the truest way he could. I find Bulinch to be authoritative despite it being a somewhat modern work.

>> No.20233894

>>20230297
I was just commenting on reading Orlando Furioso. You're right in saying its a bad chart. Reading Orlando Furioso without any of the Matter of France does not make sense. I'll make my own medieval romance chart eventually.