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When did you realize that the Bible was the Word of God?

>> No.20219142

larp belongs on >>>/cgl/

>> No.20219181

>>20219124
When Trump held it up in that photo op. Jesus is still a fag though

>> No.20219188

>>20219124
This is a redpill nobody is ready for. Let the sodomites and blasphemers burn

>> No.20219218

Why not all the other ones that claim to be the literal word of God?

>> No.20219222

>>20219124
Isn't that like the whole point of it?

>> No.20219286

Threadly reminder that you WILL worship the Pachamama

>> No.20219291

>>20219124
When I was 2.

>> No.20219297

>>20219291
Based. A child's faith is the strongest. An adult can't believe the same way since rationality and common sense get in the way.

>> No.20219304

>>20219124

The church claims the bible is the word of god and I derive my faith from god not the church

>> No.20219330

>>20219124
Faggot

>> No.20219335

>>20219181
Oh my God fuck you

>> No.20219340

>>20219218
>bro the true faith is this shitty religion, not the biggest and most successful religion on earth!
Fuck off retard

>> No.20219344

>>20219335
You will never be a woman

>> No.20219353

>>20219340
>most popular thing must be correct
I bet you worship capeshit movies too.

>> No.20219354

>>20219218
because they're wrong if you ever read any of them (you haven't, atheists don't read)

>> No.20219362

>>20219353
>bro if there’s a god of course he is the god of this religion no one knows about it or of this one characterized by terrorism!
Do you legitimately have an extra chromosome?

>> No.20219364

>>20219340
>it's another episode of anon gets his values from playing strategy games on the computer

>> No.20219367

>>20219362
I bet you list your preferred pronouns. Have to go with crowd am I right

>> No.20219372

>>20219362
Chromosome is King!

>> No.20219373

>>20219297
It wavered and waned from about mid teens into mid 20s and came back very strong from events in late 20s. For a while I had faith in God but doubted the Holy Bible. Then I started really understanding a lot of the contextual matches between what it communicates and what I see of the world, and once again faith and Holy Bible returned into sync with each other. When I was given my first copy at 2 it wasn't even something I questioned, it was plainly obvious.

>> No.20219381

Why do r*dditors point out how terrible God acted in the OT as a reason not to believe in Him? If you think God must be a wrathful creature then it makes more sense to worship Him, not less. A truly benevolent god wouldn't punish you for lack of religious observation.

>> No.20219394

>>20219381
Because a benevolent God is used to prop up the truth of his existence. If you don't believe in a benevolent God you can't pray to him for help and no one goes to heaven. If God is just an angry asshole you have no emotional reason to believe in him and you're just left with the massive vacuum of evidence pointing to his existence.

>> No.20219403

>>20219142
This kys op. Take your larp trash and fuckin die.

>> No.20219410
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>>20219381
The real take is that all the neoplatonist arguments for God don't apply to Yahweh or Jesus, it was just a bait and switch to convert the Romans. Christians still haven't figured out how to argue for Yahweh-Jesus in terms of the empirical materialism popular with contemporary people, but they were able to argue for him in terms of the platonism popular with the Romans.

>> No.20219452

>>20219403
Go back.

>> No.20219471

>>20219410
>just be Urself

Nice.

>> No.20219488

>>20219124
Very young, I can't remember. Then I realized I was retarded

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>>20219340
>argumentum ad populum

>> No.20219518

>>20219501
It’s better than the argument that if there is a god he is retarded and made a religion no one cares about as his own. If you never thought of it your a crippling imbecile my friend.

>> No.20219528

>>20219518
Depends how you look at it. Maybe God hates those who go with the crowd.

The most straight forward answer though is that none of them are true.

>> No.20219530

>>20219124
What about the problem of evil?

If...

P1a. God exists.

P1b. God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient.

P1c. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.

P1d. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.

P1e. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.

P1f. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.

P1. If there exists an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient God, then no evil exists.

However...

P2. Evil exists

This is the logical contradiction because evil clearly exists as he describes in the fire and brimstone condemnation of the evil that people do, so this would mean that if god exists, he cannot be omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient all at the same time.

>> No.20219533

Logos is not the same as some boom compiled over centuries by people working for the devil who wear the sign of Christ's murder around their necks.

>> No.20219535

>>20219518
I estimate you have a total of 6 gorillion chromosomes

>> No.20219542

>>20219528
>Maybe God hates those who go with the crowd.
What would make you think that and not think that God gates people who don’t go with the crowd?
Also, it’s funny how you’re probably a young atheist following the crowd of young people becoming atheists.

>> No.20219543

If one accepts that God exists by any mechanism, be it the cosmological argument or religion or otherwise, they are met with a problem: why does suffering exist?

The problem of evil posits two options

God is wholly good, but is unable to stop it. Therefore, he is not omnipotent.

God is able to stop it but refuses to, therefore he is not wholly good.

This posits what we call "circular logic." For example, the argument eventually concludes: "if God is wholly good, then those in Hell deserve it." If so, then he is not wholly good. "But he is wholly good." He cannot be if he tortures people for eternity. "But they deserve it." Why? "Because they are evil-doers." In that case, he is not merciful. "But he is." And so the circle continues.

>> No.20219548

>>20219535
>no arguments, only an ad hominem using the same offense I already did
Lmao atheists for sure are fucking dumb

>> No.20219556

>>20219381
Yes, if you make a direct agreement with God whom freed you from captivity, then you honor your end of the agreement and remain loyal. Otherwise, stay yo ass in Egypt and make no agreements. He could have just left things as they naturally were, under the results of pure natural human choices. But He *benevolently* offered to interfere and bring them out of slavery, in exchange for following His rules and being His representative people. They kept going against the agreement and being spiritual whores.

>> No.20219574

>>20219218
They don't have so many fulfilled prophecies.

>> No.20219578

>>20219556
>*benevolently* offered to interfere and bring them out of slavery
What of the poor enslaved people in other empires whose foreskins weren't desirable enough?

>> No.20219601

>>20219124
when i realized all is the word of god

>> No.20219605

>>20219543
hi im god

i just wanted to say

youre retarded

specifically by words

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>>20219605

>> No.20219629

>>20219542
>What would make you think that and not think that God gates people who don’t go with the crowd?
I don't think that, but I don't see any reason why that would be less likely, either.

>it’s funny how you’re probably a young atheist following the crowd of young people becoming atheists.
I was actually into Christian apologetics for a good portion of my teenage years, but I thought about it more and concluded that what I believed didn't stand up to hard scrutiny.

>> No.20219631

>>20219543
evil exists cuz god wants it to exists

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>> No.20219642

>>20219631
Therefore he is not wholly good.

>> No.20219643

>>20219613
just trying to show you the way out of the flybottle

its clear you havent read your wittgenstein

>> No.20219650

>>20219629
>don't see any reason why that would be less likely, either
?
If you're a being like the christian God it makes sense that you would make your religion the most popular one, you can do anything and you want people to be saved

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>>20219643
>"Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent."
Great, then why did you make this thread?

>> No.20219665

>>20219650
But then why only go part way? Why stop at most people instead of all people?

>> No.20219666

>>20219651
i didn't you sweet cinnamon cunt

>> No.20219673

>>20219124
its only the word of god if its the kjv version

>> No.20219683

>>20219665
Because there's something called free will and someone called lucifer.

>> No.20219685

>>20219578
Did those people maintain any connection with God? Were there any among them who walked with Him, called on Him? From the time of Enos the Hebrews had some among them who called on the LORD.

>> No.20219694

God, you guys are so astronomically gay

>> No.20219706

>>20219683
>there's something called free will
what creature would freely reject god without being either ignorant, insane, or stupid, and what creature would choose any such quality without possessing the very same quality before hand?

>> No.20219714

>>20219124
>God in the old testament: Genocidal asshole
>God in the new testament: Benevolent ruler, also weirdly Greek
Even after 2000 years of lefty meme tier copes Christcucks never could explain this.

>> No.20219728

>>20219714
Obviously you have paid no attention to what Jesus said was to come. Not to mention there is nothing asshole about genociding a bunch of child sacrificing ritual prostituting pagans.

>> No.20219743

>>20219683
There's an easy solution for that. God is all-knowing, so he can use his foreknowledge to know who will accept him and who won't, so just don't make anyone who won't (including Lucifer). Just like that, you've got a 100% Christian population without violating anyone's free-will.

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>>20219666
Careful, your god might not like you talking like that

>> No.20219776

>>20219530
>P1a. God exists.
yes
>P1b. God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient.
those are words some use to attempt to describe a being we cannot comprehend
>P1c. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
power to, perhaps, desire to? who could say?
>P1d. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
doubt, without choice where comes meaning?
>P1e. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.
perhaps
>P1f. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
doubt
>P1. If there exists an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient God, then no evil exists.
disagree wholeheartedly
>However...
>P2. Evil exists
yes

>> No.20219803

>>20219543
>God is wholly good, but is unable to stop it. Therefore, he is not omnipotent.
>God is able to stop it but refuses to, therefore he is not wholly good.
>It can only be one of these, it's not possible that the actuality transcends these extremely narrow positions
utterfuckingretard.jpg

>> No.20219807

>>20219142
Do you larp as an incel? Funny that yoh literally posit the value in being a Christian

>> No.20219813

>>20219124
Probably still not. Christ is God though

>> No.20219830

>>20219362
>>20219340
based btfoing atheist pseuds

>> No.20219837

>>20219548
>obtuse nigger calling others retards
lmao

>> No.20219922

>>20219750

>my god

my god

>> No.20219923

>>20219728
Why did god make all those people and then use other people he made to genocide them? Seems a little bit like you're just deifying a variety of despotic human behavior

>> No.20219964

>>20219923
>Why did god make all those people and then use other people he made to genocide them?
Bad things happen and then you can forgive them.

>> No.20219977

>>20219923
I, not being God, can only assume that He made "all those people" with free will and they used it to become utterly abhorrent. He wanted His chosen representatives to experience participation in carrying out His will, to experience the realities and responsibilities first hand. To order the annihilation of what had essentially become a subhuman, animalistic people, which if carried out fully would have prevented any further children from having to be born into such a people, was pretty compassionate, actually. Unfortunately the Hebrews didn't have the stomach for completing the task.

>> No.20220007

why are christians so retarded?

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>>20219803
Not an argument

>> No.20220029

>>20220007
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

>> No.20220033

>>20219803
Evil can be forgiven and thus conquered by us on Earth.

>> No.20220037

>>20219964
>forgive them all
>>20219977
>kill them all
the duality of [volcano worshiping] man

>> No.20220038

My idea of paradise is waking up one day to find out every christian church has been bulldozed and every bible burned. not just christ cuckery either but jews and islamic books and texts as well. a world without judgemental christian cunts will be a better one and oh never forget you're losing :)

>> No.20220099

>>20220038
>and oh never forget you're losing :)
lol each year the number of religious people in the world grows more and more, all your atheists in first world countries aren’t breeding and are importing religious people from poor countries instead to fuck your women instead
i think europe will become majorly muslim in 30 years, not to mention christianism growing like a wildfire in china, south korea and africa

>> No.20220110

>>20220099
lmao no they aren't you fucking coping retard. we are subverting your religions and you are losing big fuckin time. our time for tolerance for you evil fucks is over coper retard.

>> No.20220138

>>20220099
>fuck your women
I'm betting that poster is not concerned with women other than having someone for swapping makeup tips with.

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>>20220110
>lmao no they aren't
yes they are you dumb fuck, did you even look at the data and predictions? or are you just coping because "atheist" paradises like europe are importing millions of religious people to fuck their women because atheists simply can't breed?

>we are subverting your religions and you are losing big fuckin time
lmao you're only subverting mentally ill people into not breeding and making your government have to import religious nuts to maintain the replacement rate of your country instead

>> No.20220163

>>20220150
okay first of all retard that is not a fucking source. thats a shit graphic retard. your religion is dying, you are losing and your mad about it. don't worry when people like you face the wall don't cry fren.

https://blog.oup.com/2020/12/why-is-religion-suddenly-declining/

here is a real fucking source. retard

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>>20220138
I support people like him being gay and not breeding, it'll make western countries governments import more and more religious people to their countries to breed instead lol

>> No.20220171

>>20220099
>>20220150
>>20220165
look how fucking dumb you are. you can't even keep your claims the same. first it was europe will be majority muslim. then it'll be 14 percent. which is it religious tard?

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>>20220163
lol all projections show the grow of religion in the world during the next decades, gonna cry?

>> No.20220183

>>20220173
don't change the subject. address your false claim. you said europe will be majority muslim. then you said it'll be fourteen percent with high migration. which is it retard? your sources are all over the place and make no sense.

it makes sense a religious wack job retard would make claims all over the place and cope about his dying shit religion and shit ways. its okay sweetie. we are destroying your terrible religion we are winning and you're losing.

not only are you stupid. you can't even read the graphics you post correctly. wow holy shit are religious people fucking retards.

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>>20220171
cry more, the point is that in a few decades some europe countries will be majorly mulsim and then soon all of europe and there's nothing you can do about it bitch

>> No.20220187

>>20220184
which is it you fucking retard? will muslims be majority or 14 percent? which is it dumb fuck. you can't even keep your claims the same. you religious retards fucking lie so much.

>> No.20220194

>>20220183
>you said europe will be majority muslim
it will be, I was wrong about the dates only
but don't worry, it'll soon be darling
now cope or cry lmao

>> No.20220196

>>20220194
i accept your concession as a dumb fuck.

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>>20220196
while you're here on the internet crying a religious man is breeding your women

>> No.20220218

>>20219631
But why?
>inb4 to test your faith in Him
If God is all-knowing, why would He need to test a person if He already knows the results?

>> No.20220223

>>20220183
>it makes sense a religious wack job retard would make claims all over the place and cope about his dying shit religion and shit ways. its okay sweetie. we are destroying your terrible religion we are winning and you're losing.
You don't seem happy.

>> No.20220227

>>20220216
look the dumb fuck is still here. this was just you a minute ago.

>okay i was wrong about every single thing i said
>and my predications were completely wrong but here is how i'm still right.

you already conceded that you are in fact a dumb fuck who is not only wrong, but a lying dumb fuck also. how does this make you feel?

>> No.20220228

>>20220218
so you learn to forgive

>> No.20220231

>>20220037
>forgive them all
Yes. What? Are you scared of bad things happening to you?

>> No.20220232

>>20220228
If evil did not exist in the first place, there would be no reason to learn to forgive.

>> No.20220238

>>20220227
>you already conceded that you are in fact a dumb fuck who is not only wrong, but a lying dumb fuck also. how does this make you feel?
What prose! What style!

>> No.20220240

>>20220232
Correct! This is why Christ proves God visited us on Earth - because forgiveness is how we transcend our lot. I don't think you understand that with forgiveness there is no truly bad things, just mistakes.

>> No.20220243

>>20220238
tfw you get so utterly btfo you have to change the subject to something totally unrelated. lmao die mad about it. you religious piece of shit,

>> No.20220246

>>20220227
you are the dumb fuck here saying that religion is dying lmao
religion will grow in the world by the next decades according to all serious projections
religion is only "dying" in first world countries which have abysmal birth rates anyway and because of that are importing millions and millions of religious people to counter that
how do you feel about this?

>> No.20220250

>>20220243
>tfw you get so utterly btfo you have to change the subject to something totally unrelated. lmao die mad about it. you religious piece of shit,
different anon :)
>lmao die mad about it
you seem quite upset

>> No.20220263

>>20220246
all of your fucking "projections" were wrong you fucking retarded piece of shit. your claims are different in multiple posts and you didn't even read your own fucking predictions correctly either you fucking dumb piece of shit. the world is growing. they are losing their position globally. your own fucking graphics said this. you are too fucking dumb to read them correctly. you religious piece of fucking dog shit. your religion is dying

>> No.20220280

>>20220263
>you fucking retarded piece of shit
>you fucking dumb piece of shit
>you are too fucking dumb to read them correctly
>you religious piece of fucking dog shit
I forgive you - anon >>20220246, please forgive the mad boy

>> No.20220285

>>20220280
fuck you faggot.

>> No.20220291

>>20220285
Oh good - something to actually forgive. I forgive you, friend

>> No.20220294

>>20220263
all the projections show the number of religious people growing in the world by the next decades
do you realize that since you started posting on this thread multiple religious guys probably fucked various women of your country?

>>20220280
I forgive him, after all we're all brothers
God bless you

>> No.20220302

>>20220294
holy shit you are a fucking retard who can't read their own graphics. you made multiple wrong claims and posted multipled graphics that are contingent on multiple other factors playing into them. then you posted a graphic that said religious groups are losing their position globally and keep saying
>all the projections
and all of your projections have been wrong or read incorrectly by you. because you are a fucking retarded religious scumbag,

>> No.20220308

>>20220302
>you made multiple wrong claims and posted multipled graphics that are contingent on multiple other factors playing into them.
This sentence is impossible to be true. You can't say it's wrong and contingent.

>> No.20220316

>>20220302
All projections I posted show religion growing by the next decades. Gonna cry?

>> No.20220320

>>20220308
yes it is wrong you fucking retarded piece of shit. and others were contingent on multiple factors you dumb fuck.

you made a claim that europe would be majority muslim. you were wrong because you're a fucking retarded religious person.

then you made a claim that europe would be fourteen percent muslim if immigration from muslim countries continued at a high pace for the next 30 years. that is contingent on multiple factors. yes it is. so again since you're a fucking retard. you couldn't comprehend this simple fact.

i get it. youre a fucking retard. but i just want you to understand just how fucking dumb you are.

>> No.20220326

>>20220316
all of your projections have been wrong you fucking retard. you're literally down to " muh dick" like a fucking retard would post. you fucking dysgenic religious piece of shit.

>> No.20220332

>>20220320
>yes it is wrong you fucking retarded piece of shit. and others were contingent on multiple factors you dumb fuck.
I'm dumb! You caught me!!! Oh no
>you made a claim that europe would be majority muslim. you were wrong because you're a fucking retarded religious person.
wasn't me
>then you made a claim that europe would be fourteen percent muslim if immigration from muslim countries continued at a high pace for the next 30 years. that is contingent on multiple factors. yes it is. so again since you're a fucking retard. you couldn't comprehend this simple fact.
Great so it's possible
>i get it. youre a fucking retard. but i just want you to understand just how fucking dumb you are.
I'm really dumb! So dumb! Now what?

>> No.20220333

>>20220326
All my projections show religion growing. Lol you lose.

>> No.20220337

>>20220333
>triple 3's
blessings

>> No.20220339

>>20220333
>>20220332
you fucking retard. your projections were wrong and you're a fucking retard. just remember you're literally at
>muh dick

>> No.20220341

>>20220339
>you fucking retard
>your projections were wrong and you're a fucking retard
You're right - I'm dumb! Now what?

>> No.20220346

>>20220341
hopefully you kill yourself and your family. wouldn't want any scumbags like you breathing air good people should be breathing.

>> No.20220353

>>20220339
My projections were right. And what is your problem with dick? It makes you cry that religious men are breeding your women and there’s nothing you can do about it?

>> No.20220367

>>20220353
broken record retard gets btfo. keeps talking about other men he doesn't know having sex with women. what are you a faggot or something? jeez i know retarded religious people are cucks but to be constantly talking about other men fucking is something else. you might need help there faggot. lmao. its okay we know you freaks are supressed faggots anyways.

>> No.20220368

>>20219124
is it possible that Jesus knew God but God has no words ever spoken?

>> No.20220378

>>20220367
I just want to know how you feel knowing that while you’re here posting on this thread bashing religious people probably a religious guy is breeding your women. Can you answer?

>> No.20220385

>>20220346
>hopefully you kill yourself and your family.
It's so easy to bait atheists lmao

>> No.20220390

>>20220378
this is the final form of the christ cuck faggot. right here. he gets disproven in all his arguments and talks about men they dont know having sex. not you though huh? thats weird. you really are a faggot aren't you? not only are you a retard. who got fucking demolished. you a faggot too. almost poetry.

>> No.20220413

>>20220385
kill yourself you religious piece of shit.

>> No.20220419

>>20220390
I mean, my pregnant wife is watching shows on the tv while I’m here on the pc finishing some work and posting on 4chan, maybe later we’ll fuck I don’t know. How do you feel about knowing this? It makes you angry or sad?

>> No.20220422

>>20220413
>kill yourself you religious piece of shit.
>breathing air good people should be breathing.
I forgive you :)

>> No.20220430

>>20220419
yeah sure you are faggot. you were just talking about other men fucking. like a faggot would and you got fucking destroyed. but yeah yeah got a wife alright faggot lmao. after a half hour of talking about other men fucking. you fucking faggot religious piece of shit.

>> No.20220454

>>20220430
Uh I don’t see how pointing out that there are religious men fucking your women right now is a gay thing? Is watching straight porn and seeing men fucking women a gay thing also?
That’s a curious logic, something that an actual homosexual would say because he gets aroused by the thoughts of men having sex. Sorry to disappoint you but I’m straight as they come bro haha but if you’re gay there’s nothing wrong imo you can open up to me.

>> No.20220458

>>20220454
>i know you are but what am i
The absolute state of christcuck retards.

>> No.20220472

>>20220458
Bro so do you feel aroused by thinking of religious men fucking your women? But aren’t you anti religion? How do you explain those contradictory feelings dude?

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>this thread