/lit/ - Literature

>>20215462
Beats dwelling in this existential dread

>>20215462
You can keep on living without all the copes optimists use. It's not that hard.
t. living fine without all the copes optimists use.

>>20215506
is living without optimistic cope nihilism

>>20215531
Maybe. I don't really care.

>>20215462
I could swear I saw this exact same thread, with the same pic and everything, years ago on this very board.
Crazy deja vu

>How can I stress how unacceptable this all is? I know!

This is the worst post I've ever seen on /lit/. Fuck you OP.

>>20215600
retard

>>20215600
big pussy nigger

>>20215462
Pessimists are insufferable, it is actually good that they kill themselves.

>>20215506
This, apart from direct physical pain all bad things are just spooks anyway.

>>20215462
Pic related killed himself for this exact reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUl-ek3P-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNhpk-kFLT4
https://vitrifyher.wordpress.com/

why yes I chose to live because some shitty novel said it is worth to fight for the beauty in a bad world

If you really understand pessimism then you know that death is not an escape either. Suicide is an affirmation of the will.

>>20215914
You don't know shit about shit.

>>20215462
>>20215480
>>20215506
>>20216053

>apart from direct physical pain
I'm living with something akin to physical pain and idk what the fuck im still living for.

>>20216128
I think being a literal schizo who thought Jung is right and any other reality existing making him believe everyone else is stupid, was probably what made him an hero. Everyone starts off being a real pessimist and then realises they just look like a sad old truck driving hobo schizo. It is never natural for popular people because they are so used to being optimistic.

So the narcissism kicks in and they have to act like the world is a story about them ('the world is bringing me coincidences, miracles are everywhere').

>>20216139
Cope

>>20216201
seethe

>>20216138
Who gives a fuck. Do you spend your life saying 'i can't suicide I'm scared'. The whole idea is that if it's worth doing because of any reason, then it can be considered. You're making a discovery into a principle and coming to the same conclusions as an optimist. Plus we don't know if he altered the books so his books would get published. You really think if the will is everywhere it would matter if we killed ourself. Why tell people they shouldn't do it and revert to square one. Death and birth are the same.

>>20216215
I will not

I dont even care about pessimism anymore, Im pretty sure most philosophy is a cope now, especially the big modern ones
I just don't know if it's worth trying to see if "things get better," especially after realizing that what my depression actually is is a latent but pervasive fear of others and the lack of control I have over their opinions of me; that has kept me in a perpetual state of anxiety which has led to anhedonia, depression, and suicidal ideation in turn
Should I just pound Benzos like Peterson to cling to life? Why not take the ultimate selfishness when I've spent my whole life in supplication to others in the same way I hoped to please my drug addicted mother and win some semblance of security and stability

>>20216260
What were you trying to get from reading other peoples ideas about life who are long dead anyways? how would that fix your illness?

>>20216287
I think my problem was thinking that jerking my dick intellectually to the writings of ancient aristocrats would motivate me to do anything other than navelgaze and perseverate, also thinking that I could motivate or think myself out of what I thought was depression I guess

>>20215462
Wtf, when did the pessimists advocate suicide? Pretty sure the philosophical school of pessimism outlines that reality is something to be overcome and once you do so you can reach some sort of transcendence akin to Buddhism or whatever.

>>20216260
Maybe you should stop swallowing semen.

Based pessimism. Only truth allowed.

>>20216131
literally me

>>20216138
Can you elaborate? I'm interested. Does it have to do with Schopenhauer and reincarnation?

>>20216300
Honestly it's helped me quite a bit. Burying my head in research is a nice way to spend my time and it also helps me with thought process in general. We're all different and walk our own path though so only you can figure it out precisely, good luck man. A lot of what caused my suffering before was these superficial relationships around me, prospective women.. I don't really care about it anymore for the most part.

>realise Michelstädter is right about everything
>he capped himself
Well shit

>>20216300
>thinking that jerking my dick intellectually to the writings of ancient aristocrats would motivate me to do anything other than navelgaze and perseverate, also thinking that I could motivate or think myself out of what I thought was depression
Hey btw: DELETE THIS

>>20216703
All theory is cope desu. You just have to do it on a n intuitive 'this fucking sucks' basis. Intellectual conviction has nothing on the social pressure of a presumed conviction.

>>20216680
Read Schopenhauer's essay "On Suicide"

>>20217317
He also has a section on suicide in The World as Will and Representation. Somewhere in part 3 or 4 I think.

>>20217317
+ Hume's.

>>20216680
Schopenhauers view: Seeking death and fleeing from death are both affirmations of the Will. Both are a way to chase after a future where you will be more satisfied. This impulse is what should be avoided. Give up on satisfaction because it is a fantasy.

>>20215462
Why yes, I do continue to live out of pure spite for those who wish me dead, how could you tell?

i'm so horrified by the world bros... holy hell. i don't want to die but i am a coward when it comes to this shit. people being tortured, raped, murdered; homeless people freezing on the street... what kind of place is this

>>20217508
Read the stoics