/lit/ - Literature

"quit acting so bitch made" by sage. seriously, you sound like such a whiny pussy.

>>20209663
t. consoomer

>>20209654
Crime and Punishment

>>20209654
>you will never be dead
Good?

>>20209654
Unironically Crime and Punishment

>>20209664
dude, life is full of wonderful, engaging and beautiful stuff. It's only the ugly who find only ugly. Learn how to fish, or go looking for bird, or just go on a hike at a public park. Go see a play or to the symphony. Just quit being so whiny & think you're so damn smart just because you're angry.

>>20209654
atleast i tried

>>20209685
this is the most reddit, normie response on this board
>just go heckin' fishing my guy!

you need to go back

>>20209691
>reddit-tier nihilist faggot calls others redditors while reddit spacing
Like pottery. How about you stop being a cynical midwit and kill yourself? Or just continue to soak up welfare and jerk off to lolis, not like you'll do anything with your self-confessed loser mindset lol.

>>20209654
>Napoleon,
Why would I want to be fr*nch?
>a Tolstoy,
Why would I want to be a r*ssian?
>a Goethe,
>a Picasso,
Why would I want to be a painter?
>a Churchill
Why would I want to be a genocider?
>a Newton,
Why would I want to be a virgin?
>a Kant,
Why would I want to be a virgin?
>a Washington,
Why would I want to be a genocider and slave-owning republican?
>a Shakespeare,
>a Caesar,
Why would I want to be a genocider?
>a Mozart,
Why would I want to be deaf?
>a Kennedy,
>a Galilei,
Why would I want to be a heretic?
>a Wagner,
Why would I want to be an antisemite?
>a Michelangelo,
Why would I want to be a painter?
>a Franklin,
Why would I want to be a slave-owning republican?
>a Luther,
Why would I want to be a heretic and antisemite?
>a Linnaeus,
>a Ford,
Why would I want to be an antisemite?
>a de Gaulle,
Why would I want to be Fr*nch?
>a Pasteur,
Why would I want to be Fr*nch?
>a Tesla,
Why would I want to be worshipped by ledditers?
>a Rembrandt,
Why would I want to be a painter?
>a Columbus,
Why would I want to be a genocider?
>a Tudor,
Why would I want to be inbred?
>a Voltaire,
Why would I want to be Fr*nch?
>a Gutenberg,
Why would I want to ruin literature?

The dogma of "everyone is an artist".

Of all the dogmatisms that have been imposed to destroy art, this is the most pernicious. Democratizing artistic creation, as Beuys demanded, democratized mediocrity and turned it into the sign of identity of contemporary art. Not everyone is an artist, nor does studying in a school make us artists. Art is not simply divinely inspired, art is the result of work and dedication, of spending thousands of hours learning and forming one's own talent. We are sensitive to art, but there is an abyss between being artists and creating art. This dogma started from the destructive idea of putting an end to the figure of the genius and it has a logic, because, as we have already seen, geniuses -or at least artists with talent and real creation- do not need curators. However, its consequences are felt in a very different field. Genius is not a myth. Education shapes geniuses. Talent is a part of it, but rigorous training and systematic work make the standards of results higher and consequently the artistic level better and better. We have had and still have great talents that can be called geniuses: what is the intention to demerit them by generalizing and equalizing all people? To standardize, to equalize, is the communism of art, it is the obsession that the truly exceptional should not stand out, it is to create a shapeless mass in which the only thing that stands out is an ideology, not people.

1/3

>>20209654
Start a cult. If you get enough people to join they will remember you.

>>20209743
The central figure of this false art is contemporary art itself, not its artists. Never before in the history of art have there been so many artists. With the invention of the ready-made came the ready-made artists. This idea that demerits individuality in favor of uniformity is destroying the figure of the artist. With the figure of the genius the artist was indispensable, and his work irreplaceable. Today, with the overpopulation of artists, they are all dispensable and one work is replaced by another, since they lack singularity. The works in their ease and whimsy do not require special talent to be realized. Everything the artist does is susceptible of being art -excrements, philias, hysterias, hatreds, personal objects, limitations, ignorance, illnesses, private photos, internet messages, toys, etc. Making art is a pretentious and egomaniacal exercise. The performances, the videos, the installations with such obviousness that overwhelms are pieces that in their immense majority appeal to the least effort and in their creative nullity tell us that they are things that anyone can do. That possibility, the "anyone can do it", warns that the artist is an unnecessary luxury. There is no more creation; therefore, we do not need artists (in this paradigm).

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>>20209737
Half of those you listed are cool things to be though

>>20209654
I don't know about you guys, but I think that picture would have benefited from a nice town hall or park in the middle

Each man is designated their position, their station in life, their raison d'etre. To compare oneself to the great men of history is folly. Why bother? Live an awesome life, get a woman and start a family, transfer existing knowledge to your children, etc.

>>20209654
>>you will never be a Napoleon, a Tolstoy, a Goethe, a Picasso, a Churchill, a Newton, a Kant, a Washington, a Shakespeare, a Caesar, a Mozart, a Kennedy, a Galilei, a Wagner, a Michelangelo, a Franklin, a Luther, a Linnaeus, a Ford, a de Gaulle, a Pasteur, a Tesla, a Rembrandt, a Columbus, a Tudor, a Voltaire, a Gutenberg, et al.
Yes I will.

> Napoleon, a Tolstoy, a Goethe, a Picasso, a Churchill, a Newton, a Kant, a Washington, a Shakespeare, a Caesar, a Mozart, a Kennedy, a Galilei, a Wagner, a Michelangelo, a Franklin, a Luther, a Linnaeus, a Ford, a de Gaulle, a Pasteur, a Tesla, a Rembrandt, a Columbus, a Tudor, a Voltaire, a Gutenberg, et al.

Who? More people know about Flavor Flav.

Death of a Salesman unironically

>>20209654
You are a narcissist. No one gives a fuck about your presumptuous and grandiose delusions. This shit only harms yourself and makes you unlikeable. People can tell if you think you are smarter or more "deserving" than them, and they will not respond well. Just focus on being a better person.

>>20209691
kek why does everyone make Reddit sound like a community of goofy, simple minded Canadians?

>>20209851

yeaaaah boiyeeee

Take the leap of faith or drown yourself in smelling your own farts while drinking yourself to death like Hitchens did.

Sorry but I'm already on my way to be a great poet so I can't empathize. Chekhov is brilliant at portraying mediocrity though. The novel Stoner is also quite good.

I am an integral part in God's plan. Every person, place and thing is.

I cant even imagine being at a point where you are worried about not being a great man. Every day for me is an existential crisis where I spend every walking moment torturing myself for not even being able to accomplish the task of being normal every man with a family

>>20209654
Maybe not, but ill try
Also Kierkegaards Sickness upon Death

>>20209754
And the dogma is mainly fostered by capitalism so time to don the red comrade

>>20209923
Many great artists were weirdos and outcasts anyway, so you should be worrying about greatness since that's the only way for you to transcend every other lowly aspect of your self.

>>20209654
> great men
> the world is a hellish dystopia tiptoeing into oblivion.

Magum red pill: no one was ever great, it was all a dream.

>>20209685
Unironically this. If you don't want to enjoy things, you won't. Embrace humility and enjoy the simple things because they're all you'll probably every have. If, by chance, you produce some great work of art in the process by sheer accident, congratulations. If not, it isn't the end of the world.

>>20209948
Not really a pill. Great artists have been showing you that since forever and showing outlets to escape it.

Who gives a shit?

>>20209654
>wanting be like someone else
>implying everyone you just listed isn't also, at the very most, a hardworking, cynic who grew bored, likely from or became a suburbanite, with a surface-level knowledge of art and culture, who falsely believes that made himself superior to those around him, and was trapped in a cyclical routine of work, consume, procreate, work, consume, procreate, ultimately contributing nothing of value or even possessing original thoughts.

>>20209961
>and showing outlets to escape it.
More like selling copium by the paragraph

>>20209654
Is this where you live, anon? I live like maybe 10-15 minutes away. Maybe we can have a /lit/ meetup.

>>20209809
It sort of is, the parking lot near the center of the interchange is a trailhead for the path that parallels the road south.

>>20209654
Wrong. I've been carefully cultivating my autobiography since I was 16. Currently 25 and my life has been an absolute roller coaster ride that would probably get an autobiography with even a minor literary success.

Already published several translations and authored a highly successful copy-pasta which has garnered a lot of acclaim from the sad-sack autists on /lit/. When I was in university (dropped out of a top tier school after completing two semesters) I wrote an essay on Borges which not only earned the highest esteem of the professor, but also got half the girls in class wet.

Currently I'm backpacking across the United States with nothing but a bag of clothes and a pistol. I'm not doing this for any plebeian reasons such as "finding myself" or "seeing the world", oh no, I've been homeless on three continents and spoke four languages before my twentieth birthday. You see, I'm doing this because I had a hit put out on my life by the mob and had to flee my hometown, probably forever. My best friend was murdered three days ago because he didn't flee with me, and I have nothing to tie me down anymore.

Once I get a couple grand together I'll join the FFL. Wanted to for years, but it's only now that my life truly does suck so bad that I can justify it. For the time being I'm in the process of seducing an ex-girlfriend of mine from her loving boyfriend of two years, just to hurt her. Spent the last month sleeping on park benches and buses and robbing gas stations. Everything I say is true, but I embellish constantly. I guess you could say I'm a Hero of Our Time.

>>20209654
>and nobody will be you
>nobody will be me

>>20209654
half the people you listed were just hereditary secret bloodline descendants who were placed into prominence to achieve an end

>>20209961
> showing when things must be done

>>20209685

Life is an ugly mudfight for sex and coercive dominance over others, including self coercion to the threat of exclusion or iconoclasm that your gang of faggot friends imposes upon you. Your happiness stems from security from social predation and the satisfaction of immediate animal drives. And this is both good and bad, but the route where people find happiness is through protracted and compulsive self-deception and that is strictly bad. And your post is an example of the latter. Stage plays suck, at least if it's contemporary

>>20209743

The more pressing issue is consumer art in music and television. And I guess normie memes too

>>20210129
Based but people hate it when this gets pointed out.

>>20209737
>Why would I want to be an antisemite?
but i already am...

>>20210100
Exactly. And we are all placed into suburban mediocratic nightmares.

>>20209746
So you want me to start a discord server?

>>20210084
Is your name Max Lawton?

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>>20210129
cope

>>20209654
>suburbanite
Wrong, I am a very proud urbanite and I don’t give a shit if I ever achieve anything beyond getting a lot of bitches on my dick

>>20210744
we can't all be great

>>20210884
source?

>>20209685
Based
>>20209691
Cringe

>>20209737
>slave-owning republican?

>>20209654
>you will be, at the very most, with a lot of fertilizer, fuses, and wiring, a midwit suburbanite, with a surface-level knowledge of explosives, who falsely believes that using truck bombs to attack federal buildings can dissuade corruption, and is trapped in a linear routine of work, bomb, die, ultimately contributing one instance of a truck bombing of a federal agency to society and dying for a lost cause because the rest of your fellow men are meek, childlike cowards

You can always be a McVeigh

>>20209654
Voltaire was an irl shitposter and definitely belongs to the second category, if he was alive today he would post on 4chan (/lit/, /pol/, /his/ and /biz/)

>>20209654
Churchill picasso kennedy de gaulle pasteur tudor voltaire and gutenburg are fags and even then no one as notable will become prominent in this century. Because of this awful environment you should be happy to get anywhere at all

>>20209685
>Pointless activity
>Pointless activity, Outside

>>20210991
t. person who is currently not in the middle of exploding, yet will continue to cope by believing that he totally will one day

>>20209737
Being a genocidal tyrant and change the course of history must be rad

>>20209654
There are some that I'm happy I'll never be.

>>20209737
>a Mozart,
>Why would I want to be deaf?
lel

>>20209654
>work
lol
>procreate
double lol
>contributing nothing of value
...
guess I get to brag too

>>20209654
Read the Bible. Beauty will continue to exist in spite of your shit attitude.
>waaaah I’ll never be Napoleon
calm down Raskolnikov. Go find meaning in the mundane you whiny cunt.

>>20209737
Mozart wasn't deaf. You're thinking of beethoven
Get off my board you uncultured ignoramus retard

>>20210889
This. It's about knowing yourself and doing the best that you yourself can do. OP is a whiny, delusional and narcissistic ultra-faggot

>>20209654
>you will never be a Napoleon, a Tolstoy, a Goethe, a Picasso, a Churchill, a Newton, a Kant, a Washington

I reckon i will. im pretty smart, and i think i could get some of my writing published. from there it seems pretty easy to be on these gu's level.

>>20209654
I don't think this particular brand of sick egotism could exist without main-character syndrome cultivated by a mediacentric society
You don't care about any of these people, something closer to the truth is that you care about your Skyrim OC from 10 years ago.
So I think any book would be good enough at a high-enough velocity, if you end up in the fucking ER at the brink of death maybe you'll get over yourself

>>20209654
>you will never be a Napoleon, a Tolstoy,
You didn't read Tolstoy. Or Dostoyevsky, for that matter.

fuck all that shit, for me it's a /tv/ feel,
>you will never be mark hamill in this moment

I’m already a me

>>20211403
cope

>>20209654
the first one is accurate. the second one is up to you. honestly I would consider a traveling wastrel doing just enough work to get by and continue to practice their craft or ply their trade a few steps above midwit suburbanite (you can be the smartest or the dumbest person on the planet, if you dont do anything with the ideas that come to you in either case you are not actually living).

>>20209654
Stop romanticizing "big men", retard.

Shit, I don't even want to be alive in the first place.

sweet baby christmas when did this board become the default repository for miserable cunts
is /r9k/ broken or something

>>20209654
I can and will be strong enough to beat your bitch ass.

>you will never be a... Churchill

There's literally nothing stopping me from becoming a fat, imperialist drunkard.

>>20209654
You much have all the money and comfort you could you need to be happy to have such petty concerns. For me, to just have the standard of living that my grandparents or parents have have had would be an achievement.

>>20210129
What 0 Jesus does to a mf

>Mozart
I wish Amadeus killed him

>>20212167
you almost certainly have a higher standard of living than any previous generation anywhere on earth you miserable piece of shit

>>20209654
Anonymous already holds his own against every one of the names you listed in the OP, if not in fame then in notoriety.

>>20209654
Tabacaria by Pessoa

https://www.azores-adventures.com/2015/10/tabacaria-by-fernando-pessoa-%C3%A1lvaro-de-campos.html

>>20211132
All activities are pointless. What a nonsequitur.

>>20209654
If you wanna be a real nigga so much then actually do something or join a war or something instead of bitching damn! You know the main difference between all these names and you? They didn’t sit around whining all day. Silly behavior!
>>20212238
LOL

>>20209654
>procreate
That ain't me.

>>20209906
Reddit is full of subhuman cattle, sometimes I partially emphasise with Gates and other economic elites who want them culled, but I also understand that this is not the mindset of a true ruler of the world.

>>20212204
Jesus is often a cope for weaker people. This sort of behaviour is typified in semitic religions. Pre-christian white people were a purpose and a light in and of themselves. I'm not denying Jesus' spiritual superiority, I'm just saying you yourself should seek to embody the priest-king archetype instead of externalising it and devoting yourself to it out of weakness.

>>20209654
Lost Illusions by Ballsack

>>20209685
I disagree. I can find life horrible sometimes, and others be overtaken by the beauty of hiking alone through the woods. Both interpretations can be true.

>>20211861
Pic related is right, it's not the masses of men that lead lives of quiet desperation, they're dumb jocks that are completely content with a life of work, drinking beer, watching sports and fucking the gf.
It's the INDIVIDUALS, the intellectuals that lead lives of quiet desperation.

>>20213020
>the intellectuals that lead lives of quiet desperation.
nah i think it's just the whiny cunts that do. they call themselves "intellectuals" as a comfort for being powerless misanthropes
most people get along ok, intellectual or otherwise

>>20209691
Fishing is great faggot

>>20209685
>>>/r/eddit

>>20209737
this is shit tier bait

Just smoke a bit of fucking crack or something mate. It'll sort itself out.

>>20209685
Based life and world lover

>>20209654
I've already surpassed those plebians

>>20210084
O based sir

>>20210129
then why did so many of the people OP listed never have sex, or achieve power over others, and live objectively fine lives anyway? You are depressed, but stop smearing your blackpill virus all over the internet where it will burrow into more impressionable minds, and try and be better.

>>20209654
mein kampf

>>20209654
Try reading The Loser by Thomas Bernhard
>Tfw ywn be Glenn Gould, the novel

>>20209654
How the fuck do you know? Oh you got a magic ball? Doomer, you think its rational to be so pessimistic but really the inverse is truer.

>>20209654
Wrong realization
With a good set of tools and a bunch of nails you can change the course of history

>>20209685
This advice won’t penetrate the hearts nor ears of those who need most to hear it, as the only comfort and solace in their self indulgent dejection is subsiding in a permanent haze of ire. Imagine viewing everything with the focal of blood red rage with a tinge of deep blue sorrow, and then you can begin to understand the comedic lives that these pitiful men lead.

DFW realized this and then killed himself. Follow suit, I guess.

>>20209654
only unhinged cunts give a shit about the first bit. only idiots fall into the trap of believing the second.

>>20209654
>Books for this terrible realization?
Juvenal, Hamann

>>20209654
>>you will be, at the very most, with a lot of hard work, cynicism and boredom, a midwit suburbanite
but i live on a farm desu. I have no literary aspirations either. I just like to read for funsies.

>>20209654
Imagine being this much of a little bitch.

>>20209654
>books for this feel
linkin park hybrid theory cd pamphlet