/lit/ - Literature

>>20208560
god is not Great by Hitchens

>>20208560
this ones makes atheist cucks seethe harder

>>20208560
>>20208565
Do they actually make arguments or do they simply mock? Do they prove they understand what they're trying to destroy? Genuinely curious.

>>20208575
They don't make any arguments whatsoever.
>God Delusion: 300 pages of "I'm a scientist who does't want to go to church, therefore God is fake!" >God is Not Great: "I hated boarding school and have a problem with authority!"
No arguments, just British manchildren screaming into the void.

>>20208590
This. I'm a Christian and I recognise there are good atheist thinkers (Hume for example). Dawkins and the Nu-Atheists aint it.

>>20208567
Thanks for the tip anon

>>20208575
>Do they actually make arguments or do they simply mock? Do they prove they understand what they're trying to destroy?
No part of their understanding, critique, and prescription is granular--all strokes are broad in the service of negating doubt. Any introspection is restricted to "even if I were wrong" and not "what if I am wrong." Their books are dishonest.

>>20208590
>>20208596
Why do you guys even read that stuff?

So many books out there and so little time...

>>20208590
>>20208596

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>>20208596
Calling Hume an atheist is a stretch I think

>>20208604
I never read it but I've watched a lot of debates with theists vs. Dawkins/Hitchens/etc. and was unimpressed by the Nu-Atheists.

>>20208612
Yeah, I saw a few of those. Will never get that time back. Anyway, I had some good chocolate cake today

>>20208611
Well he claims to be a Christian in his writings but the way he writes about it seems to be so mocking and disingenuous that you wonder whether he was lying because of the time he was living in. For example:
>So that, upon the whole, we may conclude, that the Christian Religion not only was at first attended with miracles, but even at this day cannot be believed by any reasonable person without one. Mere reason is insufficient to convince us of its veracity: And whoever is moved by Faith to assent to it, is conscious of a continued miracle in his own person, which subverts all the principles of his understanding, and gives him a determination to believe what is most contrary to custom and experience.
Could he really be saying "I'm a Christian and I believe it's a miracle that God has made me one because it's impossible to prove?" I guess so. But it seems like he's mocking Christians more than anything.

>>20208560
god is math and if you don't believe in math then stop breathing air that could be used by other people

>>20208560
if your scale of based and cringe is as inverted as it appears, then you will love Sam Harris "Letter to a Christian Nation"

>>20208654
God is Truth and math is his design
as is air and the other people that use you

>>20208679
>>20208654
God is the essence of being

>>20208689
>essence of being
Why, Cap'n Cruch, whatever do you mean?

J.L Mackie - Miracle of Theism.

Skip the fedoras. Start with the Romans

>>20208689
Sneed is the feed of seed

>>20208738
What even is this retarded meme?

>>20208720
And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

>>20208560
That book was cringe af. I bought it somewhere for 50 cents, and on the way home, when I tried to read it, I was so overwhelmed by embarrassment that I just left it on the train. The first and only time I've ever done that.

I'm not religious, btw.

>>20208761
Now do the New Covenant!
Happy Easter Rabbi!

>>20208755
Something you need to hear but don't want to about your fanfiction

>>20208753
shouldn't you be screaming in fear whenever you hear someone say "where did atlantis go" in greek you stupid british robber

WTF a blatantly polemic non-philosophy book doesn't make philosophical arguments
what gives?

>>20208575
Yes they do, I've read the god delusion, it's actually really good. Dawkins destroys Aquinas and all the other christcucks, pretty based.

>>20209057
Dawkins does not understand Aquinas, and should be ridiculed for not consulting someone with a greater understanding of classical theism than himself. I'm sure there are people that would have helped him out

>>20208560
https://youtu.be/gYpGMLwJ8Nk

>>20208560
The only good criticism of Christianity as a way of life was Nietzsche and its easily refuted by simply looking at his life.

>>20208567

have never heard of it

>>20208567


>written by some parapsychology retard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake

>>20208560
Dawkins is awful when he talks about religion . The selfish gene is much better.

>>20209114
Not an argument, now go back to your most smelliest deity.

>>20209181
Oh, it's the guy that discovered morphogenetic fields? lmao

>>20209158
Then by that logic all philosophy is refuted excepts Camus.

>>20209216
I'm an atheist, it's just that Dawkins went with an interpretation of Aquinas that is wholly unique to himself

>>20209227
Nah. It's just clear what the end goal of glorious poetic isolation from the herd is when it's champion is a borderline incel. Kierkegaard was right and N was wrong.

>>20209236
cope

>>20209236
By that logic you are an incel and your argument doesn't matter at all on anything. And also none of 4chan people are worth anything.