/lit/ - Literature

>>20199072
*Soon to be all dead.

>>20199072
dugin is literally russian alex jones equivalent

>>20199296
People at my university are publishing widely on Dugin, and there's a continually growing "Dugin-industry" in academia. (This is admittedly not because Dugin is some kind of genius, but rather because his reading of Heidegger and it's relationship to politics is an enigma in itself.)

Tell me when Alex Jones publishes his treatise on Kant's second critique.

Brindled cow! Do you hear, brindled cow? I know I must have lost all sense of shame to ask you for oil yet again. I do not ask for it. We do not deserve it. I know what you think of us - no matter how much you give them, Little Khavroshka won't get a single drop, it will all be gobbled up by all these kukis-yukises, yupsi-poopses and the other locusts who obscure the very light of day. You are right, brindled cow, that is how it will be. Only, let me tell you something . . . I know who you are. You are everyone who lived here before us. Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and before that, and before that . . . You are the soul of all those who died believing in the happiness that would come in the future. And now see, it has come. The future in which people do not live for something else, but for themselves. And do you know how we feel swallowing sashimi that smell of oil and pretending not to notice the final ice-floes melting under our feet? Pretending this is the destination towards which the people have striven for a thousand years, ending with us? It turns out that in reality only you have lived, brindled cow. You had someone to live for, but we do not . . . You had us, but we have nobody apart from ourselves. But now you feel as miserable as we do, because you can no longer grow apples for your Little Khavroshka. You can only give oil to ignominious wolves, so that kukis-yukis-yupsi-poops can shell out to its lawyer and the lawyer can give the head of security a kick-back, the head of security can grease his hairdresser's palm, the hairdresser can grease the cook's, the cook can grease the driver's, and the driver can hire your Little Khavroshka for an hour for a hundred and fifty bucks . . . And when your Little Khavroshka sleeps off the anal sex and pays off all her cops and bandits, maybe she'll have enough left over for the apple that you wanted so much to become for her, brindled cow . . .

The sacred book of the werewolf did a good job of really getting russian depression.

>>20199296
how so?

does anyone really not care about Russians and their super special sekrit club soul

>>20199313
Really? I watched an embarrassing interview of his with some British journalist. The guy was invoking relativism as a defense for Russia's policies. He was saying "it's true for us but not true for you". This was not in the sense of "these policies work for Russians but not for Westerners"; he was literally saying that Russians have their own truth and Westerners have their own truth and nothing is objectively true. I thought he must be an idiot after that.

>>20199072
Russia is finished. They can't even win against a country which has almost 50% Russian population, armed pro-Russian separatists, and a massively corrupt government that was installed by the CIA coup in 2014. They have broadcast their own weakness and incompetence to the rest of the world with this invasion.

>>20200960
so he’s an idiot because you didn’t understand his point

>>20200987
If he had a defensible point you would defend it

>>20200997
I need more context to understand what he was trying to say with that. The only info I have is that he said something you didn’t understand in an interview you thought was embarassing.

>>20200960
Don't you know? Relativism is cringe when you say being gay is ok in some cultures and based when you say putting gays in camps is ok in some cultures

>>20201009
How can you say I didn't understand it if you've never even watched the interview? Strange person.
https://youtu.be/GGunRKWtWBs

>>20201028
because from the way you write about it I can tell that you think it’s plain wrong even taken out of context, but I didn’t find anything that can be considered objectively wrong in that statement.

>>20201017
Being gay isn't ok in any culture it's against natural law.

>>20201040
>I didn’t find anything that can be considered objectively wrong in that statement.
I hope you see the irony in what you're saying. If what Dugin is saying is correct then it's wrong for me and right for you and we're both correct cause truth is relative. xD

>>20201047
sure man

>>20199072
Methodology sect.

https://meduza.io/feature/2016/10/26/schedrovityane-kto-formiroval-mirovozzrenie-sergeya-kirienko
http://ttolk.ru/articles/metodologi_-_eto_totalitarnyiy_tehnokratizm
https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/324973
http://wikireality.ru/wiki/Meтoдoлoги
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Щeдpoвицкий,_Гeopгий_Пeтpoвич
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocкoвcкий_мeтoдoлoгичecкий_кpyжoк

Dugin has little influence on government policy. In Russian society, there is some demand for Dugin's ideas, but these ideas cannot mobilize, they rather help to preserve peace and harmony within Russia - the idea of multinational friendship (druzhba narodov), which Russian nationalists hate.

It is ironic that the most consistent of today's Ukrainian nationalists have been influenced by Dugin. People like Dmytro Korchinsky, Eduard Yurchenko, Yulia Menada. They are also becoming known in Russia (some Russian nationalists and libertarians support Ukraine and provide a platform for these people to speak).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASR8FfN3nzk

In Ukraine, traditionalism helps in the mobilization of national elites. In Russia, traditionalism strengthens Kadyrov. Feel the difference.

Officers and military correspondents of the DPR are forced to apologize to Kadyrov. Dugin is indirectly to blame for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NiDwIy1LDM

>>20201041
Start with the Greeks

>>20201151

Why would the average moronic Hohol if he has read Dugin, shill for CIA couped Ukraine?

Whole point of multipolarity is the bridging of the world island in geopolitics. Its not even some mystical "pan-slavist" ideology (although Dugin and Putin share that) , its a basic geostrategic insight for a major land power that is not in EU-Nato. Also your point about traditionalism and Kadyrov winning is entirely non-sensical , for Russian identity and state structure there is no opposition as long as the network of allegiances is mentained. Russia has always been a vertical rather than a top down culture and Russian nationalism (pro-Tzarism/Petrinism) was destroyed forever by the Bolsheviks. Russia now should imitate the Golden Horde and fully link up with China.

>>20201450
Dugin's geopolitical views are of little interest to Ukrainians. They are more interested in Orthodox traditionalism and rethinking Heidegger's ideas.

The brahminical softness of Duginism is being replaced in Ukrainian discourse by the libertarian evolaism of Heydar Dzhemal (Dugin's friend, who had diametrically opposed views).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geydar_Dzhemal

>>20201450
One has to live in Russia to feel how Duginism works as a mediator of local national movements and the imperial project.

The example of Chechnya is the most striking and unpleasant for nationalists, since it is something like raising a horse that will obviously run away.

The average Russian person does not like the peoples of the Caucasus, including the Chechens, fear of which arose among millions of Russians after the Chechen wars, terrorist attacks, kidnappings of civilians, etc. When Kadyrovites brag about the wealth of the city of Grozny and when they are portrayed as heroes on TV, this makes Russian people angry.

The only ones whom the Kadyrovites do not anger are the radical Duginites and Homo Sovieticus.

You should read some Alexander Zinoviev (writer, not a revolutionary). He is way more based than Dugin and Ilyin combined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Zinoviev

>>20201041
This.

>>20200985
I have read this same post verbatim over a hundred times over the past two weeks.
How much do you get paid?

>>20201749
Disprove it then

>>20201631
>>20201124

>>20201151
Ukrainian identity and traditionalism is like water and oil. I must assume youre quite a bit of pseud, also why would you link libertarian hebephilic youtuber as a "platform"...?

>>20202024
In Ukraine, the traditionalist movement is quite developed and it was closely connected with the Russian one, until 2011-2012. But the agenda has never included unification into one state or projects of Little Russia/Novorossia (these are the fantasies of Surkov and Dugin - as we can see, built on ignorance of sociological data).

Your resentment towards right-wing speakers who do not support Putin is very strange. I can imagine how many people have disappointed you these days.

>>20202138
You need to read more and not just watch youtube channels... if you still use terms like "right/left-wing" when talking in context of traditionalism, youre just giving yourself away. Especially your hyperfixation on internet philosopher celebs... that is a dead giveaway.

>>20202215
I talked a lot on these topics with Russian and Ukrainian traditionalists in 2008-2014. In LJ, Yurchenko and Garkavenko have a lot of evidence for my words - traditionalism in Ukraine has always been associated with nationalism, but paradoxically it has not been anti-Russian. Until 2014.

I also watched the degeneration of the Eвpaзийcкий Coюз Moлoдeжи (in the beginning there was something from the HБП) into a kind of HOД. I watched the rise and fall of the CиП. Et cetera.

In general, the picture of what is happening is clear to me.

>>20202272
and yet your understanding of these matters is superficial.

I love how westerners think that Dugin and Ilyin are relevant in Russia beyond some lazy Russian itelligentsia. No, they are not. Russia, just every other urbanistic, post-industrial european country is filled with feminism, degeneracy, globalistic way of life. It isn't different in lifestyle and values from families in Berlin or Oslo, that live in a digitalized world.

We are doomed. We are bloody doomed. And Russia too.

>>20201881
Its an active and ongoing conflict that started two months ago. Wars can last years so why are all these Ukraine cope-posts spreading? FBI tactics to get the American public ready for war when the Ukraine falls despite all the propaganda saying that the Russians are losing.

>>20200960
He is working with Heidegger's notion of truth as aletheia; that is a-letheia, or unconcealment. Truth is unconcealed from different positions, but never in full. If you want to see how this relates to truth read the sections about "Volk" in the artwork essay. A short section:

> The world is the self-disclosing openness of the broad paths of the simple and essential decisions in the destiny of an historical people. The earth is the spontaneous forthcoming of that which is continually self-secluding and to that extent sheltering and concealing. World and earth are essentially different from one another and yet are never separated. The world grounds itself on the earth, and earth juts through world. But the relation between world and earth does not wither away into the empty unity of opposites unconcerned with one another. The world, in resting upon the earth, strives to surmount it. As self-opening it cannot endure anything closed. The earth, however, as sheltering and concealing, tends always to draw the world into itself and keep it there.

The world of the Greeks is not the world of the Romans which is not the world of the Germans or the Persians.

>>20201631
Which work do I start with?