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>>20191892

We’re trying to make a list of good works of deep politics/conspiracy theories with truth.

Last thread turned into fighting. Maybe just leave book recs this time and not get too into arguments?

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>> No.20196764

David McGowan’s recommend reading list:

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/recommended-reading/

>David E. Stannard, American Holocaust
>Howard Zinn, A People’s History of the United States
>William Blum, Killing Hope

>George Seldes, Facts and Fascism (Other titles by Seldes are also recommended)
>Ladislas Farago, Aftermath
>James and Suzanne Pool, Who Financed Hitler
>Charles Higham, Trading With the Enemy
>Charles Higham, American Swastika
>Lenny Lapon, Mass Murderers in White Coats
>Tom Bower, The Paperclip Conspiracy
>Christopher Simpson, Blowback
>Linda Hunt, Secret Agenda
>Burton Hersch, The Old Boys
>Christopher Simpson, The Splendid Blond Beast
>Martin Lee, The Beast Reawakens

(1/?)

>> No.20196768

>deep politics/conspiracy theories

CIAchedelia

>> No.20196829

>>20196764
>The National Insecurity Council, It’s A Conspiracy!
>Mark Zepezauer, The CIA’s Greatest Hits
>Doug Moench, The Big Book of Conspiracies
>Jonathan Vankin, Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Crimes
>Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen, The 70 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time

>George H. Estabrooks, Hypnotism
>Jose M. R. Delgado, Physical Control of the Mind
>Donald Bain, The Control of Candy Jones
>Paul A. Verdier, Brainwashing and the Cults
>Walter Bowart, Operation Mind Control
>Peter Watson, War on the Mind
>Peter Schrag, Mind Control
>John Marks, The Search for the Manchurian Candidate
>Martin Lee and Bruce Shlain, Acid Dreams
>Gordon Thomas, Journey Into Madness
>David Black, Acid: The Secret History of LSD

>Ed Sanders, The Family
>Dusty Sklar, Gods and Beasts: The Nazis and the Occult
>Jan Hollingsworth, Unspeakable Acts
>Maury Terry, The Ultimate Evil
>Larry Kahaner, Cults That Kill
>Kevin Marron, Ritual Abuse
>Carl A. Raschke, Ph.D., Painted Black
>Gordon Thomas, Enslaved
>Henry Scammell, Mortal Remains
>John Decamp, The Franklin Cover-Up
>Michael Newton, Raising Hell
>Linda Blood, The New Satanists
>Peter Levenda, Unholy Alliance
>Daniel Ryder, Cover-Up of the Century
>Tim Tate, Children for the Devil: Ritual Abuse and Satanic Crime
>R. Roy Blake, Objective Evil: Satanic Cults in US Intelligence

>Herman Morris & Harry Henderson, World War II in Pictures
>Alfred W. McCoy, The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia
>Robert Harris and Jeremy Paxman, A Higher Form of Killing
>Douglas Valentine, The Phoenix Program
>Leonard Mosley Dulles, The Dial Press
>Burton Hersch, The Mellon Family
>Jeremy Scahill, Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army

(2/2)

>> No.20196838

>>20196764
>>20196829
Apparently David McGowan was doing research for a book about the 70's NYC Punk scene connections to intelligence, but he died before finishing it. I kind of want to see if his daughter who runs his site now can release the research he did.

>> No.20196881

>>20196829
>R. Roy Blake, Objective Evil: Satanic Cults in US Intelligence

They were saying it is impossible to find this book in the previous thread.

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>This particular literature provides stunning information about the secret role of the freemasons in international politics, about the bloody upheavals in France in 1789 and in Russia in 1917. The Author reveals the presence of dark Masonic forces behind the scenes (both Lenin and Trotsky were high-ranking freemasons, obeying the International Masonic Council). The Author pursues the history of the communist ideology from the Illuminati of the 18th century, to Moses Hess and his disciples Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

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>>20196691
Great book about how infiltrated the US government was, all revealed by the declassified Venona papers

>> No.20197202

>>20196691
I think you need more international stuff because all the books recommended seem to be about America. When you make the chart you should make a section dedicated specifically to literature about countries outside of America.

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These 3 explain how the Left owns Brazil and how leftists became addicted to their own propaganda creating a bizarre cultural ouroboros.

>> No.20197620

>>20197445
confirmation bias is a powerful drug

>> No.20198460

>>20197620
confirmation bias is a powerful drug

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stuff here from the 70s, 80s, 90s

>> No.20198793

>>20196691
anything about the Brabant killers and Marc Dutroux?

>> No.20198810

>>20197202
Because this stuff mainly happens in America.
Even foreign actions like the assassination of Orlando Letelier by the Pinochet dictatorship are indelibly linked to Washington.
But that said there is a good foreign example: in the 1970s elements of MI5 were working with Protestant Loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland to carry out terrorism and prevent a political solution and force a military intervention, as well as attempting to undermine Harold Wilsons government.
And for icing on the cake they also protected Protestant Loyalist pedophiles abusing boys at the Kincora orphanage.
Books on this:
Who Framed Colin Wallace by Paul Foot
Spycatcher by Peter Wright
The Kincora Scandal by Chris Moore
On RUC and SAS targeted killings:
Stalker by John Stalker
Death on the Rock by by Roger Bolton

>> No.20198812

>>20197166
>how infiltrated the US government is
lol
rofl even

>> No.20198949

>>20198775
Decent Interval by Frank Snepp: ex-CIA officer Snepp provides a first hand account of the chaos and corruption of the final years of the intelligence operation in Vietnam including the ignominious and infamous withdrawal that they had refused to properly plan for.
Hidden Terrors by A.J. Langguth: uses the murder of Dan Mitrione by Tupamaro guerrillas in Uruguay to investigate the US practice of teaching torture to South American and other foreign police forces under a the guise of a US AID program acting as cover for the CIA.
In Search of Enemies by John Stockwell: ex-CIA officer Stockwell provides a first hand account of the operation the CIA got involved in after Vietnam, provoking a civil war in Angola, and how the agencies hubris caused it to spiral out of control.
The Question of Palestine by Edward Said: goes through the history and demographics of the Palestinian people, disproving the Zionist claim they dont exist and the land was empty, and the expulsion in 1947 and the war it created, and the state of the Palestinian people up to the then contemporary time of the 1970s.
Stockwell and Snepps book both explain how the CIA manipulates the press.
After the Cataclysm by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman: how Americas intelligencia tries to rewrite the Indochina wars.
Assassination Embassy Row by John Dinges: an investigation into the assassination of Orlando Letelier and Ronnie Moffit in Washington DC by Chiles intelligence service.
Labyrinth: another book on the assassination, by one of the prosecutors so it is more defensive of the US government not pursuing the Chilean government for prosecution and initially trying to blame leftists for the act.
Timor A People Betrayed by James Dunn: a thorough account of Indonesias 1975 invasion and occupation of East Timor, the 250,000 people this probably killed, and the years of occupation that followed.
Deadly Deceits by Ralph McGehee: yet another ex-CIA officer, more of a general overview of the places incompetence and petty politics.
These guys books really dispel the image of omniscient super spies fiendishly controlling everything. Another ex CIA officer to read btw is Philip Agee who I am forever putting off getting around too.
Weakness and Deceit by Raymond Bonner (this is the one on the top left with the cover too faded to read): Bonner was one of the journalists who broke the El Mozote Massacre story and had his career ruined for it, this book is about the El Salvador military governments war against the popular insurgency and Washingtons support for it.
Out of Control by Leslie Cockburn: a general overview of all the crimes of the Raygun administration.

>> No.20198986 [DELETED] 

>>20198775
>>20198949
Bob Woodwards Veil is something I would mostly _not_ recommend, the first 160+ pages is tepid office politics and interpersonal squabbles, after that when things finally get into gear he acts mainly as a court historian reporting the official view of Casey and others. Only a few times does he intrude with critical assessments of their pronouncements, these show he is capable of being a journalist but all too rare. One of the examples of this is his revelation that Casey and other high ranking Raygun officials were in love with the work of Claire Sterling: they were absolutely convinced by her claims about a worldwide Soviet conspiracy that was centrally coordinating all revolutions, terrorist groups, the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul, etc. They refused to believe an internal review of her work by CIA analysts that concluded her claims were not only unsupported but that some of her sources were in fact ***stories that the CIA had itself planted in the foreign press***. (see what I said about Snepp and Stockwell for more on that)
The Crimes of Patriots by Jonathan Kwitny: a fully detailed account of the Nugan Hand Bank scandal. In the mid-1970s a bank was established in Australia by many people who had been involved in the Indochina covert war and drug trade and who would again appear in the later Iran Contra revelations, it eventually collapsed at the end of the decade leaving one of its founders dead and the other fleeing Australia never to be seen again, a giant debt and account holders unpaid, and accusations of drug money laundering, arms smuggling, etc
Washingtons War on Nicaragua by Holly Sklar: similar to the Bonner book but this time about the Raygun administrations campaign against Nicaragua, as good as Bonners is I would say it is much more thorough and deeper investigation though.
The Phoenix Program by Douglas Valentine: a full account of the CIA torture and assassination program in Vietnam the Phoenix program. The Langguth book is a good companion, and it concludes in Central America in the 1980s so Bonner and Sklars book make good follow ups.
Dangerous Liaisons by Andrew and Leslie Cockburn: CIA and Israeli intelligence conflicts and joint operations.
Cocaine Politics: you really have to read a bunch of other works to appreciate this, but basically its a review of the snowjob done to dismiss the claims of Contra cocaine politics. Skip if you haven't read a lot of other things about this.
The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush by Pete Brewton: a look at the Mafia, CIA, and Bush involvement in the S&L collapses. Are there any other books on the S&L in the 1980s people would recommend?
October Surprise by Gary Sick: Gary Sick was the NSC staffer who made the original October Surprise public accusation and this is his book presenting his case.

>> No.20199011

>>20198775
>>20198949
Bob Woodwards Veil is something I would mostly _not_ recommend, the first 160+ pages is tepid office politics and interpersonal squabbles, after that when things finally get into gear he acts mainly as a court historian reporting the official view of Casey and others. Only a few times does he intrude with critical assessments of their pronouncements, these show he is capable of being a journalist but all too rare. One of the examples of this is his revelation that Casey and other high ranking Raygun officials were in love with the work of Claire Sterling: they were absolutely convinced by her claims about a worldwide Soviet conspiracy that was centrally coordinating all revolutions, terrorist groups, the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul, etc. They refused to believe an internal review of her work by CIA analysts that concluded her claims were not only unsupported but that some of her sources were in fact ***stories that the CIA had itself planted in the foreign press*** (see what I said about Snepp and Stockwell for more on that), but a few nuggets like that just aren't worth the slog.
The Crimes of Patriots by Jonathan Kwitny: a fully detailed account of the Nugan Hand Bank scandal. In the mid-1970s a bank was established in Australia by many people who had been involved in the Indochina covert war and drug trade and who would again appear in the later Iran Contra revelations, it eventually collapsed at the end of the decade leaving one of its founders dead and the other fleeing Australia never to be seen again, a giant debt and account holders unpaid, and accusations of drug money laundering, arms smuggling, etc
Washingtons War on Nicaragua by Holly Sklar: similar to the Bonner book but this time about the Raygun administrations campaign against Nicaragua, as good as Bonners is I would say it is much more thorough and deeper investigation though.
The Phoenix Program by Douglas Valentine: a full account of the CIA torture and assassination program in Vietnam the Phoenix program. The Langguth book is a good companion, and it concludes in Central America in the 1980s so Bonner and Sklars book make good follow ups.
The Politics of Heroin by Alfred W. McCoy: if there is one book here you read THIS IS IT this is the book that blew the lid on CIA narcotrafficking when it was published in the 1970s, I have the 1992 update that include new chapters on events since then - Nixons war on drugs, a summary of Nugan Hand, Contra cocaine and Mujahideen heroin, Rayguns renewed war on drugs - there is a 2003 edition too I believe.
Dangerous Liaisons by Andrew and Leslie Cockburn: CIA and Israeli intelligence conflicts and joint operations.
Cocaine Politics by Peter Dale Scott: you really have to read a bunch of other works to appreciate this, but basically its a review of the snowjob done to dismiss the claims of Contra cocaine politics. Skip if you haven't read a lot of other things about this.

>> No.20199021 [DELETED] 

>>20198775
>>20198810
>>20198949
>>20199011
The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush by Pete Brewton: a look at the Mafia, CIA, and Bush involvement in the S&L collapses. Are there any other books on the S&L in the 1980s people would recommend?
October Surprise by Gary Sick: Gary Sick was the NSC staffer who made the original October Surprise public accusation and this is his book presenting his case.
Disposable Patriot by Jack Terrell: like Cocaine Politics you have to have read a lot of other things and be really interested in the topic to find this interesting, its the first person account of a kind of sketchy guy who got involved in the """civilian military assistance""" supporting the Contra rebels and the government toes he wound up stepping on in the process.
The Massacre at El Mozote by Mark Danner: 13 years after it happened, was denied, and the journalists who reported it had their careers ruined, the flood gates finally open and it is admitted yes in fact an entire village in El Salvador was wiped out by a special forces unit that had just finished training in "counter insurgency warfare" in the United States.
Dark Alliance by Gary Webb: 7 years after it had become forgotten history Gary Webb took another look at the claims of Contra cocaine smuggling, where as other journalists had tried to trace it up to the Raygun administration he traced it _down_ from the dealers to distributors to importers and successfully found firm proof of their involvement in the Contra operation and drug money going to fund the rebels and their connection to the CIA. Webb had his career ruined for it.
Lost History by Bob Parry: sort of a grab back of 1980s highlights by Bob Parry who broke the Iran-Contra story and was one of the journalists in the 1980s looking into Contra cocaine smuggling (he is interviewed in Dark Alliance as a matter of fact)
Blowback by Chalmers Johnson: a look at how irrational short term foreign policy decisions are increasingly causing 'blow back', unintentional repercussions, for the US. The premise though is predicated on the notion that they must be making rational long term plans, when they're not. They're not looking further ahead than the new few months or years. It is all reaction.
Killing Hope by William Blum: after Politics of Heroin this has to be other one book here you read. This book has a chapter by chapter account of every single intervention the US has carried, overt or covert, destabilisation or full blown invasion, the US has engaged in since the end of WWII. There are over 50 chapters.
Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner: said to be a more scholarly version of Killing Hope.

>> No.20199044 [DELETED] 

>>20198775
>>20198810
>>20198949
>>20199011
>>20199021
Dirty Wars and The Assassination Complex by Jeremy Scahill: the covert wars that we have seen in previous books haven't gone away, they've merely been subcontracted out or automated. And the Assassination Complex details how the technology developed for this is coming home to roost.
The Burglary by Betty Medsgar: a thorough look at the break in of an FBI field office that blew the lid on the FBIs COINTELPRO spying, infiltration, and subversion operation aimed at leftwing politics. Funny innit how everyone tears their hair out over Watergate but nobody has ever heard of COINTELPRO, or notices that it has been periodically resumed.
Shadow Wars by Christopher Davidson: US covert actions and dirty wars in the Middle East go back a very long time.
We Kill Because We Can by Laurie Calhoun and Kill Chain by Andrew Cockburn: more drone war.
Dark Money by Jane Mayer, Democracy in Chains by Nancy MacLean, Kochland by Christopher Leonard, State Capture by Alex Hertel-Fernandez: there is a very large, well funded, well connected, well motivated, and already well along the course of its agenda conspiracy for a rightwing corporate takeover of the United States and it will have very dire outcomes. Dying of Whiteness by Jonathan Metzl is related to this, it looks at how the people manipulated into supporting this campaign are hurt by the very policies they've been convinced to support.

My newer books tend to be more on the dirty underbelly of the GWoT, the drone war in and JSOC raids. And then also another conspiracy we've never really focused much on, distracted by foreign interventions and domestic subversion: the looming rightwing takeover.

>> No.20199062

>>20198775
>>20198949
>>20199011
The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush by Pete Brewton: a look at the Mafia, CIA, and Bush involvement in the S&L collapses. Are there any other books on the S&L in the 1980s people would recommend?
October Surprise by Gary Sick: Gary Sick was the NSC staffer who made the original October Surprise public accusation and this is his book presenting his case.
Disposable Patriot by Jack Terrell: like Cocaine Politics you have to have read a lot of other things and be really interested in the topic to find this interesting, its the first person account of a kind of sketchy guy who got involved in the """civilian military assistance""" supporting the Contra rebels and the government toes he wound up stepping on in the process.
The Massacre at El Mozote by Mark Danner: 13 years after it happened, was denied, and the journalists who reported it had their careers ruined, the flood gates finally open and it is admitted yes in fact an entire village in El Salvador was wiped out by a special forces unit that had just finished training in "counter insurgency warfare" in the United States.
Dark Alliance by Gary Webb: 7 years after it had become forgotten history Gary Webb took another look at the claims of Contra cocaine smuggling, where as other journalists had tried to trace it up to the Raygun administration he traced it _down_ from the dealers to distributors to importers and successfully found firm proof of their involvement in the Contra operation and drug money going to fund the rebels and their connection to the CIA. Webb had his career ruined for it.
Lost History by Bob Parry: sort of a grab back of 1980s highlights by Bob Parry who broke the Iran-Contra story and was one of the journalists in the 1980s looking into Contra cocaine smuggling (he is interviewed in Dark Alliance as a matter of fact)
Blowback by Chalmers Johnson: a look at how irrational short term foreign policy decisions are increasingly causing 'blow back', unintentional repercussions, for the US. The premise though is predicated on the notion that they must be making rational long term plans, when they're not. They're not looking further ahead than the new few months or years. It is all reaction.
Killing Hope by William Blum: after Politics of Heroin this has to be other one book here you read. This book has a chapter by chapter account of every single intervention the US has carried, overt or covert, destabilisation or full blown invasion, the US has engaged in since the end of WWII. There are over 50 chapters.
Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner: said to be a more scholarly version of Killing Hope.

>> No.20199065

>>20198775
>>20198949
>>20199011
>>20199062
Dirty Wars and The Assassination Complex by Jeremy Scahill: the covert wars that we have seen in previous books haven't gone away, they've merely been subcontracted out or automated. And the Assassination Complex details how the technology developed for this is coming home to roost.
The Burglary by Betty Medsgar: a thorough look at the break in of an FBI field office that blew the lid on the FBIs COINTELPRO spying, infiltration, and subversion operation aimed at leftwing politics. Funny innit how everyone tears their hair out over Watergate but nobody has ever heard of COINTELPRO, or notices that it has been periodically resumed.
Shadow Wars by Christopher Davidson: US covert actions and dirty wars in the Middle East go back a very long time.
We Kill Because We Can by Laurie Calhoun and Kill Chain by Andrew Cockburn: more drone war.
Dark Money by Jane Mayer, Democracy in Chains by Nancy MacLean, Kochland by Christopher Leonard, State Capture by Alex Hertel-Fernandez: there is a very large, well funded, well connected, well motivated, and already well along the course of its agenda conspiracy for a rightwing corporate takeover of the United States and it will have very dire outcomes. Dying of Whiteness by Jonathan Metzl is related to this, it looks at how the people manipulated into supporting this campaign are hurt by the very policies they've been convinced to support.

My newer books tend to be more on the dirty underbelly of the GWoT, the drone war in and JSOC raids. And then also another conspiracy we've never really focused much on, distracted by foreign interventions and domestic subversion: the looming rightwing takeover.