/lit/ - Literature

>>20182534
I would rather see it dead than to see it the way it is now

>>20182534
More rape scenes

I really doubt this statistic.

Wow it's almost like that's who all this dogshit YA and LGBTQIA+ niggerloving garbage being pumped out by the industry is marketed towards

>>20182540
Why? Men read less then women and are less likely to buy things, also more likely to pirate stuff. It’s not surprising.

>>20182570
Valid points, but I think about stuff like sci-fi novels which still seem to be relatively popular among males. I can believe 60-70%, but 80% seems dubious.

>>20182563
I would word it differently, but yes women are much larger cosoooooomers than men when it comes to literature.

>>20182534
include more werewolf knot

>>20182587
Why are women such consoomers, are they soulless?

>>20182597
Men hunt, women gather

>>20182597
Everyone can consoom. I don't know why you would focus on women unless this has just been a thinly veiled set up to the incel rant you wanted to give all along.

>>20182617
>incel!!!

Soullessness confirmed

>>20182602
>women run society and provide the majority of the caloric intake and nutritional diversity
>men play in the woods but bring home a nice steak once in a while
Hunter-gatherer society is not the supporter of sexism that you think it is.
>>20182622
Okay, so I was right.

>>20182630
>when women ran society we lived in grass huts, when men took over and established the patriarchy we built civilization
Femcelanon, your arguments will never work out, just stop.

>>20182534
>emotional truth
so just a comfortable lie

>>20182597
Women entered the workforce only recently. Their spending habits mirror that of people from fast developing nations, in that they now have financial freedom. They're a gender of the new rich. Give it a generation or two and they will settle into the same pattern that developed Enlightened men have embraced.

>>20182540
It’s like the statistic that women are 80% of gamers, it’s technically true if you include women playing candy crush on their phone. Women read the majority of novels if you include all the young adult drivel they read that’s intended for literal children

>>20182672
Implying it's good

>>20182597
men consume trivial things as well; think about guys who spend 200$ dollars on virtual items or yugioh cards.

>>20182540
This statistic doesn't count used books or second hand sales. It is concerned with books currently being published.

>emotional truth
?

>>20182586
>but I think about stuff like sci-fi novels which still seem to be relatively popular among males.
Not nearly as much as the crap women read. I buy and sell books online, and I can very much confirm the statistic.

>>20182534
protag = 4/10 frumpy nerd girl

villain = 10/10 stacy

love interest = chad who dumps stacy and his harem for frumpy protag

>>20182806
More like protag is a woman who either wears glasses or doesn't wear makeup and seems to be a 6/10. Then she takes off the glasses or puts on the makeup and becomes a 10/10. Literally every women thinks they are fucking Nicole Kidman when they put on makeup.

>>20182540
>I really doubt this statistic.
Because you live in a cave. Most novels published are by women not because of DA JEWS but because only women are willing to buy literature, and they want to read women, just like men want to read men. Men basically don't read anymore. Millennials were the last potential readers, gone with scholastic book fairs. Anybody under the age of 25 is just larping as a reader, it's all simulacrum. Women read because they enjoy it, young men read to signal intelligence (which they don't need to buy new books for)

That statistic is why the (((industry))) is so bad and not worth saving

>>20182953
>Anybody under the age of 25 is just larping as a reader, it's all simulacrum
yeah okay retard

>>20182953
but I really really like reading though ->-<
>t.zoomie

>>20182953
Scholastic book fairs still happen though

Women also run the publishing industry. Chicken and egg: did the female-led pipeline produce books only women want to read, or did the market force them to adopt that strategy?

>>20182570
I find it hard to believe too. If I remember myself inside a bookstore or watching people read in the subway, it's definitely not 4 out of 5 people are women. I'd say it's 50/50.

>>20182534
>How can men write to appeal to women more?
Learn to write vapid romance novels.

>>20182953
I saw some statistic where the people that work in publishing are overwhelmingly women. Even if it's not a (((plot))), there is a negative feedback loop...novels don't get published unless there's potential for female readership...men largely ignore female-oriented novels...publishers believe that men are an unprofitable market and double down on female books.

>>20182540
Women past 30 consume books like this like candy.

>>20182534
That's because men pirate books

>>20183217
I can tell you an agent I decided not to work with declared that her agency was trying to “right the wrongs of the white man” in publishing. That’s the popular mindset, apparently.

>>20182534
>poll my e-brothel matches on last book they read
>have good jobs, make decent money
>99% of the time it’s a smut romance
>match w 18 y/o (based)
>cashier and Onlyfans for “supplemental income and to pay for school”
>she’s conversant about Joseph Campbell and Jung
God bless you Chloe I’m sorry you’ve had such a tumultuous life.
>>20183722
Dear Lord. I’m considering self-publishing through Amazon desu

>>20183826
where do i meet women like this

>...has been used to trivialise the genre
The genre? The novel is not a genre.

>>20182540
As you should, all statistics in newspapers are lies

>>20184049
>all statistics in newspapers are lies
Assuming all statistics in newspapers are lies is just as bad as assuming all statistics in newspapers are correct. Be skeptical, not contrarian.

>>20182534
>i don't buy books, i usually just get them online and print them because the paper is cheaper
>my gf or mom buys me books
makes sense deshita

If women are fiction's life support system it's time to pull the plug

This Rebel Heart
>After the communists seized power in Hungary in the wake of WWII, all color drained from Budapest, leaving the landscape and the people draped in monotone. Csilla survived the Holocaust...
The Memory Librarian
>This collection of six thought-provoking science fiction short stories grapples with a future of surveillance, racism...
Fevered Star
>The second book in the Between Earth and Sky trilogy picks up immediately after the events in the first book, Black Sun. After the annihilation of the Watchers, Tova’s power dynamics are in turmoil. Serapio recovers from a wound made by the false Sun Preist’s mask among Tova’s Crow clan. The Crow clan and the other matriarchal clans on Tova...
Spear
>The lyrical writing in this queer Arthurian retelling...
Nettle & Bone
>When an older Marra visits her pregnant sister, she realizes her princely husband is a cruel abuser. Determined to rid her sister of an abusive husband...
Kaikeyi
>Patel depicts a world where patriarchal and misogynist norms attempt to force women into rigid roles, which their protagonists refuse to be forced into...
Maria, Maria: & Other Stories
>These 10 lush and delightfully subversive short stories probe women’s love and women’s justice through the lens of witchcraft...
Elektra
>Saint follows up her lovely debut Ariadne with another retelling of Greek mythology. This time Saint tackles one of the best-known stories from Greek mythos — the fall of Troy and the subsequent repercussions — by following three pivotal women...
When Women Were Dragons
>This riveting historical fantasy set in the United States during the 1950s is deeply embedded in the patriarchy of the time. Alex Green is a child when the Mass Dragoning occurs, when 300,000 women — fed up with the daily misogyny they experience — transform into dragons...
The Ghosts of Rose Hill
>Ilana Lopez, a Jewish biracial Latina, just wants to play violin, but her parents want her to concentrate on school and choose a practical profession. To help her concentrate on her schoolwork over the summer, Ilana’s father sends her to her aunt’s home in Prague without her violin. In Prague, Ilana discovers an abandoned Jewish cemetery and decides to clean it. There she meets Benjamin, a ghost that haunts the cemetery...

>>20182534
Why do you faggots care so much?
The novel was always a feminine gente, now even more because men has other options
If you wanna write for men, be a screenwriter, not a fucking novelist. But 4channel loves to complain.

>>20184113
>screen writing
there's no artistic merit in that

>>20184113
Men should write epic poetry. That's a manly field for you.

>>20182540
Romance novels.

>>20182750
Ted's was pro agriculture.

>>20182540
this has literally always been the case. in the 19th century the vast majority of novel readers were women

>>20182534
Start writing good lit so men will want to read it instead.

>>20182534
Women support an ecosystem of low quality trash literature.

Let's be clear here. It's not literature they're reading. It's chick lit.

It's almost like saying there are more college educated people today than there ever was, but college is unrecognizable when compared to colleges back in the day.

But yeah, intellect is not as valued anymore because almost everyone is a retard. So there's little incentive for the average male to read.

>>20182953
Reading fiction is overhyped desu. There are a handful of great novels appearing each century and beyond that it's just a time sink.

>>20182765
Or fucking jetskis and fishing rods.

there hasn't been a good novel released in the past 5 years. it *should* die.

It would be extremely good for literature if the modern publishing scheme died and the writers getting published along with it. But it won't because it's making more money than ever, and that's the only thing that matters for the industry. Literature is getting worse because it's getting the lowest common denominator treatment. Everything is made cheaper, easier and more familiar to consumers. The point is, naturally, to create bigger profits. There are writers who want to create art but they won't ever get published because it's not going to sell.

Of course none of this is unique to literature. Absolutely everything undergoes this very same process. All forms of art and even consumer goods do. Everything is getting cheaper and more consumable. It's "better" for the industry if you buy a cheap trashy book each week, and it's "better" if you buy a new TV or a phone every year. There simply is no incentive to create quality, be it quality literature, quality household appliances, quality hobby equipment, or quality anything.

When it comes to good literature, a writer absolutely can't make a living out of it. One has to be a hobbyist or have a personal patron to be able to write literature. And even then it's not going to get published.

>>20182750
Based. The only eternal form of civilization is goddess worship. Once the will to power opens its mouth there is nothing but discord and strife that echoes its call. Time starts when the will to power speaks but a few of us wish for timeless days lost to the mists of prehistory. God shit is nothing but melodramatic ego capers. Give me the divinely uninteresting stasis of goddess worship, thank you very much. I am a dreamer and this Mars ruled timeline is one great annoying headache. I'm trying to attune with all of my consciousness not just this noisy miserable stretch of existence and its epidemic of hypertrophic egos.

>>20182534
>without women the novel would not be trivialised
ftfy

>>20184410
>One has to be a hobbyist or have a personal patron to be able to write literature
Where can we all find some hot upper class MILF patrons? That seems like the winning plan.

>>20182534
This is news? I always knew the only people reading contemporary litearture were women as evident by the overwhelming amount of current authors being women. I don't care, I don't write for profit but for my own and my fans' enjoyment. This only is bad news if you intended on becoming a bestselling fiction author.

>>20182586
Also this. The only genre that men still buy and read is SciFi , Sword n' Sorcery and it's derivatives.

>>20182534
>first paragraph in the article is about how hard it is for a woman to read in public
>there's a danger of a man asking her about the book
ffs

>>20182534
>buying 80% of all novels
based men still not telling women that libraries exist

>>20182534


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Without women the novel would die: discuss
‘The idea that fiction is a female domain is taken for granted by most people involved in books’
‘The idea that fiction is a female domain is taken for granted by most people involved in books’ Photograph: Giancarlo Rivas/Getty Images/EyeEm/Observer design
Women are fiction’s life support system – buying 80% of all novels. But as a major new book argues, their love of an emotional truth has been used to trivialise the genre

Johanna Thomas-Corr
@JohannaTC
Sat 7 Dec 2019 12.00 EST
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The narrator of Anna Burns’s Booker prize-winning novel, Milkman, likes to read on her way to work, even as she walks. Her preference is 19th-century novels. She likes to retreat to “the safety of the scroll and papyrus of earlier centuries”.

But in her claustrophobic community during Northern Ireland’s Troubles, it marks her out as a threat. Even her best friend sees her habit as “disturbing”, “deviant” and “not public-spirited”. The narrator is confused. “Are you saying it’s okay for him to go around with Semtex but not okay for me to read Jane Eyre in public?”

A woman doesn’t need to have grown up amid sectarian violence to relate to the narrator’s difficulties. Even in peacetime Bristol, where I occasionally flaunt my literacy in public – usually while stationary, but not always – I often run into difficulty. A woman reading a novel in a coffee shop, or on a park bench, or on public transport always runs the risk of someone – almost always a man – sidling over and asking: “So. A reader, huh?” Or, maybe: “Have you read any… um, um… Patrick O’Brian?” Or more likely, something completely un-novel-related."

>>20184636
>woman is tasked with writing an article about readership of contemporary novel
>submits a blog about the horrors of being approached by sub-Chad males
I hate femoids so much it's unreal

>>20184636
>But in her claustrophobic community during Northern Ireland’s Troubles
my eyes just about rolled out of my fucking skull
there definitely is a subset of novels that are trying to appeal directly to women, and fucking every single one of them are like this
some simultaneously shy yet headstrong young woman who gets torn away from her sheltered life by some hipster-tier lesser-known conflict, and the whole plot is just about misery and suffering and how the main character is so fucking put upon as events in this depressing conflict just kind of happen around her while she just blows through it all like a fucking leaf on the wind
my mom and my aunt have read forests worth of shit like this

>>20184636
Kazakhstan

>>20182534
>discuss

The only saving grace literature has had in the last decade was Abdulrazak Gurnah winning the nobel prize

>>20182540
YA, Romance, and Fantasy is 80% of what's sold already, I don't see how it's unbelievable.

>>20182534
why do fags keep making threads about this subject.

>>20182617
Look at this fucking retard and his blue-pulled faggot opinion. Hey idiot, wrong site, faggot. You dont know anything about anything, and are so stupid that it hurts, yet you keep opening your ignorant cunt mouth relentlessly.

if 80% of the market belongs to women, it would be a better idea to market to men. you could potentially attract a lot of attention to yourself, if, instead of publishing for the over-saturated female market, you appeal to men. even if you wanted to play it safe, you can't expect any real returns. publishing is notoriously shit for the author's return, it's worth taking a chance on the untapped market. it's unlikely to be the case that men just inherently don't read, so it's not crazy to think that you can change things.

>>20184209
If I’m remembering correctly, it even set off one of those retarded moral panics like comic books in the 50’s, D&D in the 80’s, and violent vidya in the 90’s and 2000’s

>>20184846
>opening your mouth

but he is typing not using his mouth desu

>>20184891
>he

>>20184636
>“Have you read any… um, um… Patrick O’Brian?”
????

>>20184636
for every man approaching a woman with lines on Patrick O'Brien novels there's one woman that believed a man pretending to like Paulo Coelho.

>>20182540
It's technically true, but it's true because women spend lots of money on absolute fucking garbage that drives men away from reading as a hobby. Trying to find something to read in a sea of womanshit is impossible, nothing but two-bit smut for middle aged cat ladies as far as the eye can see.

>>20182534
>I don’t read contemporary novels
>I don’t read brand new books
>I don’t care

>>20183892
He told ye where mate; He finds them at the e-brothel.

Makes sense
I dont know of any dude that reads contemporary lit
All my niggas read Sci-Fi and/or Fantasy, which makes sense
These are the novels that delve into either the ideas and possibilities of humanity via sci-fi, or the primal natural desire of men to either understand the unknown or seek improvement via fantasy

>>20182534
I don't think I will, no

>author is a woman
dropped
>author isnt white
dropped
>author is jewish
dropped

by these criteria, 90% of modern novels are disqualified, and yet few here will argue that such criteria aren't enforced by almost every one here for good reason...

i myself add the following criteria when choosing a book to read:
>author is born after 1920
dropped

>>20184113
>screenwriter
Television is and always was made for female audiences. Video games are the last market which is still mostly appealing to men over women

>>20184867
It is crazy that no traditional publisher tried to jump on the litrpg trend. They seems to be doing alright on amazon saleswise and could help get male audience

Novels wouldn't die; the publishing industry might, however.

>>20184867
It’s *clap* not *clap* okay *clap* to *clap* be *clap* a *clap* man *clap*.
The last time it was okay to be a man was 1977 by the 80s being a man was portrayed as greedy and then more and more shit piled on men. Decades later you frogs don’t even notice the water getting steamy.

>>20185657
Not since 2007 faggot. Video games and anime got gayer since masculinity was walled in 2007

>>20182806
>>20182934
so many movies about this exact same plot lmao

>>20184636
>Her preference is 19th-century novels. She likes to retreat to “the safety of the scroll and papyrus of earlier centuries”.
Ah yes, the papyrus and scrolls of 19th century.

>>20182953
>I real Halo scifi novels to signal intelligence
nice theory bro

>>20182630
>a few wild plants and berries and stuff provided the majority of hunter-gatherer caloric intake
>as opposed to something like a 200lb dead elk
Are you stupid man? Not to mention men would also have gathered anyway...

>>20186453
grug no gather stupid ass

>>20185676
Litrpg? You mean like chose your own adventure books?

>>20182630
>women run society
Not true.
>majority of the caloric intake
I'd be interested in a citation for that. In any case becomes false when society moves on to agriculture. The real question is why are you pretending to be a woman on 4channel?

>>20182934
>taking off glasses makes you attractive
I hate whoever started this meme, glasses make woman a trillion times more attractive

>>20182672
When agriculture was established more hands were required at home to maintain the crops, women were pregnant much more often (partly because the stable food allowed them to be, and partly because more children could be used as help on the farm), and men stopped hunting as a result of these factors.
As for who "built" civilization, if civilization is the advent of agriculture, that would also likely be women, as the ones dealing with gathering crops would be the ones most likely to make the observation that seeds in the ground cause that food to grow in the same spot later.
>>20184846
Tell me what part of this is relevant to me because I'm not reading that all that shit.
>>20186453
You're right, it turns out that came out of my ass and the majority of hunter-gatherer societies had over 50% of their caloric intake from meat. I was right about the nutritional value of plants mattering though. My main point was plant gatherering was a big deal and not just a side gig for table garnishing.
>>20188115
>Not true.
You're right I was misremembering, as the societal structure of these societies is mostly speculative and at least some men would have remained home to gather. It is a no-brainer that women had significant societal sway though; these cultures weren't the hypermasculine patriarchies people like to think they were. Much the same as how in traditional cultures women are the de-facto heads of the household because the man spends most of his time away working, the same logic applies but on a societal scale when most men spend their days out hunting. In terms of gender it was likely a very egalitarian societal structure on average.
Not a woman nor pretending, just educating retards.

>>20184610
cause they're the only fiction genres that aren't completely gay.

>>20184636
>A woman reading a novel in a coffee shop, or on a park bench, or on public transport always runs the risk of someone – almost always a man – sidling over and asking: “So. A reader, huh?” Or, maybe: “Have you read any… um, um… Patrick O’Brian?” Or more likely, something completely un-novel-related."
This has never happened

>>20182534
More like what would appeal to men more

>>20185326
Forgot
>NYT Bestseller

>>20185072
Wtf is an e-brothel?

>>20187514
It's a genre that essentially wastes pages on writing dnd character sheets and updating them at various points in the story

>>20188273
>When agriculture was established more hands were required at home to maintain the crops, women were pregnant much more often (partly because the stable food allowed them to be, and partly because more children could be used as help on the farm), and men stopped hunting as a result of these factors.
>As for who "built" civilization, if civilization is the advent of agriculture, that would also likely be women, as the ones dealing with gathering crops would be the ones most likely to make the observation that seeds in the ground cause that food to grow in the same spot later.

Just factually not true, anthropological comparison between matriarchal and patriarchal civilizations find the patriarchal ones had far more development which is why they spread. Women did not create civilization to helping farm.

>>20188399
Link? How did they determine which hunter-gatherer societies were matriarchal or patriarchal? My understanding, as I said above, is that they were largely egalitarian.

>>20182534
I'd prefer if they were the white race's life support system.

>>20188528
>My understanding, as I said above, is that they were largely egalitarian.
Apex kek. Have some extensively-cited Uncle Ted, especially starting at section 3.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism

>>20188559
>There is a problem involved in any attempt to draw conclusions about original, “pure” hunter-gatherer cultures from reported observations of living hunter-gatherer societies.
This is the heart of this entire reading, and seems to clash with your recommendation toward section 3, as well as your claim regarding matriarchal and patriarchal societies.
This "Ted" guy seems pretty cool though, I hope he has a successful publishing career.

>>20188781
>This is the heart of this entire reading,
No, it isn't. It's a statement made in the interest of honesty and specifically to pre-empt complaints to the tune of "ACHKSHUALLY those weren't REAL hunter-gatherers". If they're being observed by white people then no fucking shit they're not "pure" societies and Uncle Ted goes out of his way to address possible contamination basically every time it comes up. There's an entire section about it.

>and seems to clash with your recommendation toward section 3, as well as your claim regarding matriarchal and patriarchal societies.
Nah, you don't get to wriggle out of it that easily. Address the actual text.

>>20184880
not sure about moral panics but the novel-obsessed woman was enough of a cliche to be a stock character throughout the 19th century

>>20184350
Fishing rods aren't trivial at all. Excessive, perhaps, if you're buying famcy ones.

>>20182586
Fantasy does get big sales and big names still, but sci-if is not popular anymore. When was the last time a big sci-fi now went actually mainstream(like GoT for example). I can only remember that chink one that made massive waves. Western sci-fi is dead, which is strange since the genre has way less restrictions and tropes than fantasy.

>>20184410
Marx and Hegel both said that art will be over soon and they were right. The World Spirit doesn't do Art as the most important thing anymore.

>>20189903
It actually has more restrictions, because it has to awe the reader with something one can imagine being produced by science instead of just attributing it to all-encompassing magic. When sci-fi gained popularity, the technological advancements were moving rapidly and people had fun imagining the future, but technology has since then stagnated and spends time polishing finesses, most of which common folk doesn't really need (there was recently even an article on some supposed trend of going back to retro mobile phones cause smartphones became overwhelming with their options and perpetual need to check news online). It's just not impressive anymore.

>>20182540
Most men are genuinely retarded, women at least read ya trash and romances

>>20184846
lmao at the sources

>>20185326
85% of that is a result of dropping jews

>>20182953
>Women read because they enjoy it, young men read to signal intelligence
Yeah, let's just solve the issue by vomiting stereotypes.

>>20182540
>>20182534
Women might read and write the most, but they also read and write utter SHIT, so there's that.

>>20182597
>are they soulless?
Yes. Of course they are, are you only realizing it now?

money isn't real

it would be good for the novel to die for a bit

There's very few new novels being published that might appeal to male readers, except maybe stuff like Jack Reacher books. I've watched some Youtube videos by people who read only new stuff, and it's a sea of mediocre junk, no matter whether it's genre stuff or supposed 'literary' fiction.

>>20190352
Apart from some living french authors(Michele and 2-3 others who I haven't read), Delilo, Frazen, McCarthy the Fight Club guy, what do we actually have as big mainstream living writers that write for a generally male reader audience?

We need another DFW imo, or Pynchon.

>emotional truth
>trivialize the genre

Can anyone explain what these two statements mean?

>>20182537
you stupid fucking idiot. Stupid fucking idiots like you are the only people who I genuinely tell to shut the fuck up in real life conversations, and it never fails to make you crawl back under whatever bed it is you cockroaches have the guts to come out.
Stupid fucking idiot. "Rather seeing x dead" is someone you guys spit out thanks to your genuine complete ignorance of whatever it is that you want to see dead, be it the editorial world or real life human being, all in names of some abstract ideals you have built with the sole help of countless hours lost on the internet and no real life experience whatsoever. "I'd rather see it dead!" You stupid fucking idiot.
You should thank god every day that you can literally buy almost any book ever printed and have it delivered at your door within 24 hours instead of having to copy it by hand and spend the equivalent of what you'd use today to buy a house to get it. But no, you seethe so much because you have read the word "woman" written on a chingalese weaving basket forum that you would rather wish the death of one of the few industries that has the genuine potential to help humanities "instead of seeing it the way it is right now". You know what you could do instead? Go read a fucking book. That would increase the number of men reading, if you hate women so much, and would also probably (but I wouldn't bet on it) help you being less of a stupid fucking idiot.

>>20190492
Calm down, sweetie. Got pumped and dumped by Chad again?

>>20190492
This. No one knows what it's like to be working in the lit industry, especially not even literature professors and other dilettantes.

>>20190492
That time of the month eh, luv?

>>20190008
Yes man thank you for speaking up. I'm sure nothing in that chart is even remotely true. If it was john leibowitz would have told me snarky-style.
>kys

My mother is a woman, I consider myself somewhat of an expert on female readers. Half the books they buy is because they are pretty hardcovers. They read about 40-60% of what they buy.

My mother is also a woman.

>>20190619
>>20191053
I don't believe you.

I've switched years ago to only reading non fiction and verse.
Novels just don't give me anything. I guess you can make a couple of dozen historical exceptions. Shifting to YA and romance about Chad picking up an average girl over Stacy for no reason was the natural progression of the novel.

>>20190619
is form of fruit gathering xd
shopping xd xd

>>20191609
>Novels just don't give me anything
you may unironically have autism

>>20191765
I might have some mild form I guess. I give near zero damns about "characters" which seem to be the focus of (modern) novels. The pseudo-characters of ancient theatre or medieval tales are perfectly fine to me.

Gather round anons for a set of anecdotal evidence list from yours truly, Citizen of Kazakhstan. Whenever I went with women to buy books - family, friends, gfs, colleagues etc - they always had a predetermined reason to buy them from the outgo. Examples - i have free space on my shelf with white covers and I must fill it so I will buy a white covered book, I want to display a romantic front cover scene on my shelf with pink candles and LOVE wooden sign so I will buy one of those books (the ones that have a muscle dude that carried some horses for its pre workout and hugs a smol chick in a old school dress in front of a setting sun), I want a book with a sparkly cover, I want to disrupt the negative energies in my room so I will buy a thematic appropriate book etc
Basically the books were chosen by the color of the cover, how pretty the cover itself was, the latest trends from IG, TikTok and their booktubers or if it had a woman of the cover itself AND ALWAYS from YA, romance, women diaries and holocaust love fantasies. SOMETIMES, very rarely, some esoteric shit like mentioned above in the examples.
NEVER any other genres and even though they knew about classics both international or national ones or other fields, be it theological, philosophical, scify, non YA fantasy, poetry (not contemporary) etc you name it, it was because they learned about them forced in school or heard about them in passing. They didn't even bother to go to those shelves at all, pure robots, enter 3 steps left, turn right, 10 steps, pick YA, pick some Tea with weird fruit combination, Pusheen doll and pay. Rinse and repeat.

>>20188296
Dating apps. It's very simple; The woman of today is only really interested in 'experiences', if ye can give them an 'experience' they will gravitate towards ye.

>>20191053
https://youtu.be/QT13kk8HDDo

My mother is a man.

>>20192788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT13kk8HDDo&feature=youtu.be

>>20184084
burn it all to the fucking ground, sweep the ashes, throw them in the trash, and kick the trash can

>>20184669
>events in this depressing conflict just kind of happen around her while she just blows through it all like a fucking leaf on the wind

That's usually how it goes, though, women for the most part, at worst, just get plowed by the victors but rarely get killed en masse. Like everything in life, it just happens to them.