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20174279 No.20174279 [Reply] [Original]

>read a bunch of classical old philosophy books to try becoming wise
>Plato's republic and aristotles fucking ethics and the stoics and skeptics and so on
>Realize that these philosophers are actually all very, very, retarded just like anyone else with constant stupid bullshit propositions with zero basis in reality
>Am now currently very disgusted in a way I didn't know existed before and I feel like "oh god THESE are the people they say are the wisest?"
>Feel sick because all this philosophy, which I came into so passionate about, is fucking trash just awful nothing of value here

>> No.20174291

>>20174279
You start with the Greeks you don't end with them. Of course Aristotelianism looks shit now we've had over 2000 years of developments since then. Read some modern stuff

>> No.20174301

Look at all of your post including the image you posted again. Does this seem like something a wise person would even dream of posting?

>> No.20174303

>>20174291
I mean I didn't throw in the towel until I came to neitzche and realized he was even MORE retarded then perhaps any other and I say that having investigated Schoppenhaur and Spinoza.

>> No.20174310

>>20174301
I don't think wise people actually exist anymore anon, and they never did

>> No.20174318

>>20174303
Did you actually read their books first hand?

>> No.20174323

>>20174318
I've read a whole book of Schoppenhaurs, had to put down Spinoza when he said he's a determinist and I just felt I was determined to put it down because I hated it, and as for neitzche I threw him out less then half way through

>> No.20174354

>>20174323
Try Wittgenstein

>> No.20174359

>>20174303
What religion are you?

>> No.20174363
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>>20174323
>had to put down Spinoza when he said he's a determinist and I just felt I was determined to put it down because I hated it

>> No.20174378

>>20174279
Without philosophy = no legal law, science, psychology, sociology, economics, anthropology, linguistics, ethics, or education so I guess you should call up your internet service provider, get disconnected, sell your shit and live in the woods naked

>> No.20174380

>>20174359
I honestly don't know and it's a long story about my religious views but in short I think that God is a crazy sexy lady because of some dreams and visions that I had

>> No.20174392

>>20174378
I don't think what you post and what I posted are related. I see no connection. I don't see the value of reading philosophers, so I shouldn't live in my house? I don't get it. That's like saying
>You don't like reading old scientific patents for water faucets? Then why aren't you throwing out your sink?
It makes no sense

>> No.20174403

>>20174279
filtered
>constant stupid bullshit propositions with zero basis in reality
i'm pretty sure you read it wrong. you're supposed to think about them, reread them, and understand. that or your problem is that they disagree with you? either way, you are arrogant.

>> No.20174410

>>20174291
bluepilled

>> No.20174417

>>20174323
his determinism is compatible with freedom if that's your concern

>> No.20174425

>>20174417
it's not. I want to clarify that all the books were well written and all but the conclusions and lines of reasoning were just so consistently bafflingly bad. From Plato to Descartes to fucking Kant all of them. Loved their style of writing. But the content? THESE are the great concepts of philosophy? I'm only upset because I entered into this with a really strong passion for what I thought was philosophy, which I now cannot even recollect what I had anticipated so eagerly for in the first place

>> No.20174434

>>20174432
but i hate fiction too though actually

>> No.20174461

>>20174425
I don't know. You might be dumb. All your posts are empty complains about nothing. You are probably in the signal of Krishnamurti, Wittgenstein or Cioran. But they would be nothing without Kant and so it goes back again.

>> No.20174463

>>20174461
No those guys you listed all suck too.

>> No.20174480

>>20174461
This thread is FUBU for arrogant retards. Let it sink to the bottom.

>> No.20174484
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20174484

>>20174279
If you want to know real philosophy that is grounded in reality there is only one book, the KJV Bible, it is the word God wrote to help you live your life and understand yourself and the world how it really is. All the other so called philosophy are just social engineering.

>> No.20174486

>>20174279
GigaBased.

>> No.20174490

>>20174484
>page 1
>talking snake
people DIED over this shit

>> No.20174513
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>>20174380
>God is a crazy sexy lady because of some dreams and visions that I had
Based

>>20174279
What do you mean nothing of value? What do you value? Truth? Did you think you would read philosophy and all the questions would be answered? Your search for truth is personal anon so keep at it. If you value beauty more you can lean towards literature or arts. If you value goodness you can help other people if you value justice you can work in civil service etc. if your highest value is truth then you will continue your life reading and also thinking and writing. It’s an active process. But if you fell into the abyss and think it is all meaningless anyway then you can code or some shit and fap to hentai all day and play vidya. The choice is yours. The world is your oyster.

>> No.20174528

>>20174484
>masturbates to sissy hypno
VGH
>posts wrathofgnon screepcaps
RETVRN TO
>doesn't go to church
TRADITION

>> No.20174586

>>20174392
It makes perfect sense you're just a dumbass

>> No.20174796

>>20174323
Sounds like you enjoyed schopey tho

>> No.20174920

>>20174291
>developments

>> No.20175206

>>20174920
This lol. What kinda retard thinks there are “developments” in philosophy.

>> No.20175222

>>20174279
i die a little inside every time i read reddit prose

>> No.20175244

>>20174279
Their philosophy has been killed by the skeptical intellect over time. If you read plato its clear they were clairvoyant perceiving the realities they discussed, not just playing word games of unknowing like modern coomer philosophers

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>>20174291
Elements still number one

>> No.20175902

>>20174279
You're a thick cunt desu. Stay in your lane to save yourself from further shame.

>> No.20176218

>>20174279
I refuse to take the time to reply to your shit bait or mental retardation, instead of typing up a paragraph; I will instead bash your fucking head in out compassion to release you from samsara and the mental retardation you have trapped yourself in.
CAPTCHA: V8TAR

>> No.20176269

>>20174378
Don't make me post the Matt Bohr comic

>> No.20176919
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20176919

>>20174291
How wrong you are Anon.

>> No.20176931

>>20176269
Literally who
>>20175206
Me because I'm creating them, sambo

>> No.20177016

>>20174323
>had to put down Spinoza when he said he's a determinist and I just felt I was determined to put it down because I hated it
>I think that God is a crazy sexy lady because of some dreams and visions that I had
Pic related.
Also OP reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUg2cp23rGE

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>>20177016
>Pic related.
>no attachment
Me on left, OP on right, Boethius' lady philosophy in the middle.

>> No.20177795

>>20174279
>The only thing I know, is that I know nothing.
who is more foolish, the fool or the fool that follows him?

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20177829

>>20174279
That's inevitable. For someone to produce a few good ideas, they have to produce many many more bad ideas. That doesn't mean these people are retarded. This is just statistics.

>> No.20177845

>>20174279
>he stopped before diogenes
ngmi

>> No.20177871

>>20174279
i'm sorry that you're so retarded that you think that a couple of crackers from before jesus was born are supposed to be considered paragons of intellect according to contemporary standards

read kant fag

>> No.20177886

>>20174484
>the KJV Bible, it is the word God wrote to help you live your life and understand yourself and the world how it really is.

Then he did a shit job. The Bible doesn't help with any of that shit.

>> No.20177895

>>20177829
Statistics can be altered depending on who's handling the information, its a lot like peer review, a lot of those shmucks throw their internal biases into their research, of course which fellow scientists never dare to contradict leading to pure ideological results

>> No.20177930

>>20177895
there's a position for that, i forgot the name but there's a superautist i met whose job is to just go around and get hired by labs to make sure their stats are legit, the problem is most labs can't afford these guys so the only way they make money is by publishing bullshit with jacked up stats to say something that will catch attention. thats why you see all these dumb studies "IS COFFEE GOOD FOR YOU??" coming from baka labs in the middle of nowhere