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I want to make a list of books that argue “war good”. I’ll start with the obvious.

>> No.20170981
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>>20170977
Another obvious one

>> No.20170987
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>>20170977
And i guess this one would be “war good and bad”

>> No.20170995

>>20170977
Doesn't look Filipino

>> No.20171023

>>20170977
Christ that’s an awful cover. I usually don’t mind the art on Gollancz SF Masterworks that much, but goddamn.

>> No.20171087
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>>20171023
Its better than this one though

>> No.20171184

Bump

>> No.20171197
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>>20171023
>>20171087
The 80's mass market paperback by Ace is still the best cover.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17214.Starship_Troopers

>> No.20171210

>>20171087
It's really not kek

>> No.20171217

>>20171210
What is the subject of the thread, faggot?

>> No.20171222

War is good, though. Look what happens to men when there isn't any war for a few generations.

>> No.20171230

>>20171217
We're discussing how many cocks can fit into OP's asshole.

>> No.20171233

>>20171222
They stay alive?

>> No.20171236
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>>20171222
trips of truth

>> No.20171239

My diary desu. I killed 3-5 people in Afghanistan and it was the best time of my life. Maybe best isn't the right word, but it was the most significant part of my life and I felt great doing it. How can engineering school compare to war?

>> No.20171240

>>20171230
Its three, now tell me some pro-war books so i can make a chart

>> No.20171242

>>20171222
>Look what happens to men when there isn't any war for a few generations
They start romanticizing the fictive virtues of war again? This is the weakest take, and one that is only ever spoken by someone who's never been to war.

Waste of a perfectly good set of trips.

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>>20171197
*blocks your path*

>> No.20171248 [DELETED] 

>>20171240
Legionnaire by Simon Murray

>> No.20171251

Starship Troopers is not pro-War.

Heinlein believes that war is one of the most awful, evil things in the universe. However, he also believes that goodness cannot exist if you are not prepared for War, since you'll lose the first time someone who is prepared for War comes knocking on your door.

You can be Anti-war and Pro-prepared-for-war at the same time.

>> No.20171252

>>20171239
>3-5 of my Trans comerades necked themselves, I'm such a killer haha
>gimme reddit gold

every time

>> No.20171254

>>20171246
>>20171197
SOVL
>>20170977
soulless

>> No.20171257
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>>20170977
Looks like Robert Eggers. Is anyone ready for The Northman? Seems pro-war btw.

>> No.20171271

>>20171252
No, I shot them with my rifle at night near the border of Pakistan.

>> No.20171284

>>20171222
When has there not been a war in a generation? Of you mean the rise in fags is to blame on lack of war, I'm assuming you're not in the West, because the war in Iraq was a pretty big deal and fags still exist despite it.

>> No.20171285

>>20171239
I wish I had go to an armed conflict when I was younger (I'm 26 now). The other day I was thinking of joining the French foreign legion like Jünger and others have done but they go to simp for (((Ukraine))) so what's even the point. Is there even a current conflict worth fighting?

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>>20171271

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>>20171240
Legionnaire by Simon Murray

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>>20171285
Don't worry, they wouldn't want you, Larp Anon

>> No.20171320

>>20171307
Ah, thank God. I hope Russia slaughters these faggots.

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Daily reminder that /lit/ is a pro-Russia pro-Putin board, we support /ourguys/ fighting the good fight on the eastern front.
Let’s give those Nazis hell like it was 1945!
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zk_VszbZa_s

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>>20171333
Coped

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>>20171320
26 years old and I'm sure you still live with your parents.
>Well I have no skills whatsoever but I was thinking about fighting in an active combat zone xD
What a sniveling faggot.

>> No.20171378

>>20171354
>you still live with your parents.
I live in an apartment with some other fellas but I do visit my old folks at least once a month.
>Well I have no skills whatsoever but I was thinking about fighting in an active combat zone xD
Not what I meant. I meant I would have liked to join the legion but what would be the point if the kind of wars they're into these days are pro-globohomo.

>> No.20171381

>>20171242
>someone who's never been to war

Have you read anything, ever, published by a Greek or a Roman? Their veterans were extremely proud of their service.

Stop falling for the trap of turning modern liberal-centric world views into universal truths and read more books.

>> No.20171412

>>20171246
meh, 80's SF covers are still (almost always) the best and are very fun to collect from used book stores

>> No.20171421

>>20171412
70s covers are better, esp. sci-fi and fantasy ones.

>> No.20171423

>>20171294
>>20171291
Thx bros

>> No.20171430

>>20171378
>pro-globohomo
What does that even mean? Why are mutts so retarded?

>> No.20171436

>>20170977
I still can't get over how the movie based on the book which invented super armoured space marines didn't have a single infantryman in more than Airsoft protection gear.

>> No.20171440

>>20171430
I'm not a mutt but google is your friend.

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>>20171381
The onus is on you to posit that war is beneficial.

It is also worth mentioning that the nature of war has greatly changed. In ancient Greece, the winners of pitched battles suffered only 5% casualties on average, and the losers suffered an estimated average of 14% losses, and most of those are from after the line breaks. Wars were decided in a single battle that lasted an afternoon. Completely different from modern warfare.

And you may not cite some imperialist faggot Roman general who fattened his purse off of the bloodshed and enslavement of others.

>> No.20171613

>>20171483
I always wish I could see how these “war separates the men from the boys” look and act.

>> No.20171665

>>20171483
Fake pic, his ribs would be showing if his side had truly been torn open

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>>20171613
You already know.

>>20171665
Wow, we've got a real internet forensics expert over here!

you're a fucking dumbass

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>>20171693
Where are his ribs?
Even if the bullet/missile/explosion broke them there should still be fragments attached or scattered around, I only see a big black hole where his ribs should be

>> No.20171753

>>20171714
This is a really dumb cope, Anon.

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The only war worth fighting is the radical war, as the only culture worth cultivating is the imperial culture.

>> No.20171793

>>20171381
Roman/greek soldiers also fucked young boys and their empire only ran because they took millions of men, women, and children as slaves any time they were at war.

Anybody who simps for Rome in this day and age is a cringe bitch who is constitutionally incapable of actually building a fulfilling life, no matter what country or time they could live in. Read beyond the narrative your cucked history books push on you

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>>20171793
>>Roman/greek soldiers also fucked young boys and their empire only ran because they took millions of men, women, and children as slaves any time they were at war.
Based

>> No.20171962

>>20171440
are you Hungarian?

>> No.20172683

>>20170987
More like War is Life and Life is War.

>> No.20172690
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>>20170977
You need this OP

>> No.20172735

>>20171333
low quality bait, but nice repeating digits

>> No.20172807

>>20171197
used to have one, not sure whatever happened to it

>> No.20172876

>>20170987
This felt kinda anti-war to me. It does show how war is great for men to prove themselves and gain fame and glory but the end results are still pretty miserable for all involved.

>> No.20174381

>>20172876
You were filtered

>> No.20174761

>>20170981
Traitor who hated war. No.

>> No.20174807

>>20171233
Maybe, but they become more insufferable than ever. All that aggression and energy is wasted.

>> No.20174980

>>20174761
Wrong on both counts.

>> No.20175069

>>20171483
>The onus is on you to posit that war is beneficial.

The onus on me isn't for shit you goal post moving pussy

>>20171793
>Roman/greek soldiers also fucked young boys and their empire only ran because they took millions of men, women, and children as slaves any time they were at war.

Now you're moving goal posts too. The argument was never why ancient conflicts were bad through a modern lens, the thread is about pro war literature.

The neoliberal pussy was crying about how no one could write positively about military service and I was proving him wrong with the literary works of two civilizations.

Sack up and take the L loser.

>> No.20175103

>>20172683
im thinking this. i cant remember the author, be he said that there are only three books to read: the iliad, the odyssey and the book of job, because life is a battle, a journey and a riddle.

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This is thread is how I know you all are weak-wristed faggots

Steve Pressfield. How has no one mentioned Steve Pressfield yet He is literally the MOST pro-War writer of the past 500 years.

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>>20170977
Add the Torah too

>> No.20175143

blood meridian and the illiad

also some parts of the old testament

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>>20175134
Skip those all and take this instead, much more relevant to the OP

>> No.20175148

>>20175143
Blood Meridian wasn't pro war, everyone wound up dying a stupid, violent death.

Every side was retarded and violent too.

>> No.20175180

>>20175148
The Judge is literally a McCarthy self insert, and the best parts of the book are the Judge explaining why War and death are greater than anything else man will experience in his life.

>> No.20175219

>>20175069
You didn't prove anything. You didn't cite anything. You're a moron.

>> No.20175265

>>20171251
>he also believes that goodness cannot exist if you are not prepared for War
while also believing that anything not aligned to his moral view is Badness, therefore war is justified

>> No.20175272

>>20175265
War is justified when fought in self-defense, not in wars of conquest. Both wars in Starship Troopers are wars of self-defense for humanity.

>> No.20175273

>>20175219
>no, no, no you need citations

Why? You lost and are moving goal posts. How embarrassing.

>> No.20175437

>>20172690
Underrated post.

>> No.20176732

>>20171421
Those books have all fallen to pieces now though, and the covers barely have anything to do with the contents. They're just weird hippy impressonist shit.

>> No.20177576

>>20175119
Reading this plus "Gates of Fire" when I was a kid are what made me join the army when I turned 18.

I've had good and bad times, but ultimately it was worth it.

>> No.20178138

>>20175437
Overrated post

>> No.20178912

>>20171197
This is the one my friends all passed around to read back in the 90s

>> No.20178985

>>20174761
Literal retard

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Ever read some real good AARs?

Best pro-War stuff you'll get your hands on.