/lit/ - Literature

Foucault, Nietzsche, Mishima, Morrissey, Heraclitus

Rupi Kaur

Aristotle, Kant, Nietzsche, List, Morris, Cole, Rousseau, Jesus, Spinoza, Lamarck, Descartes, Foucault, Skinner, Schmitt, Agamben

Just my name and nothing else.

>>20168623
My daemon

My Tulpa (named Iohannes)

>>20168631
>Morrissey
Gay

>>20168623
Lynch, Gaddis, Pynchon, Nabokov, Faulkner

>>20168623
Basho, Laozi, Zhuangzi, John David Ebert, Haz, Islam

Hitler, Lovecraft, George R. R. Martin and Elliot Rodger

>>20168623
Waldun, Gardner, M. Ma, Butterfly

>>20168623
Ketamine

>>20168623
Adolf Hitler, Friedrich Nietzsche, Ted Kaczynski, Alexander Dugin. Hitler of course being my main influence.

>>20168791
>>20168841
epic xD praise kek frens ^^

>>20168853
>it's ok to have Karl Marx as influence but Gitler is le bad
EBIN

>>20168791
I would've cited Roger too if he wrote more than just one book

>>20168657
My man

>>20168623
Plato, Sophocles, The Bible, Goethe and Dostoevsky

>>20168623
Plato, Jesus

>>20168896
you must be the most boring dude on the planet

>my influence is jew on a stick

>>20168904
Still making you seethe 2000 years later

>Influences: No one.
>Influenced: Virtually all subsequent Western philosophy.

>>20168907
If he's your influence, why don't you get nailed to a cross?

>>20168912
>Known for: pretentiousness

>>20168915
Do it faggot
>verification not required

>>20168623
Guenon Evola Hitler Peterson Trump

>>20168903
yes

>Grandparents

Diogenes, Kierkegaard, Stirner, Zizek

>>20168879
Because Karl Marx actually wrote something other than a literal fucking diary filled with incomprehensible rants. Alfred Rosenberg would be better

Kaczynski, Plato, Madison Grant, Nietzsche, Lenin

Plato, Aristotle, Jesus, Augustine, Aquinas, Berkeley, Kierkegaard

>>20168915
>atheist can't understand logic
The neverending spectacle.

>>20168623
newton,socrates,thales,bohr,maxwell,plato,jesus

Heidegger, Schmitt, Blumenberg, Nietzsche, De Man, Plato

>>20169054
>this is what tankie westerners actually believe

Adolf Hitler, Ayn Rand, Carl Benjamin (YouTuber)

Homer, Plato, Maimonides, Spinoza, Kant, Nietzsche, Tolstoy, Freud, Foucault, Thomas Mann, Proust

>>20168623
blank

>>20169054
>Karl Marx actually wrote something other than a literal fucking diary filled with incomprehensible rants

>>20169203
Please stop reading philosophy.

>>20168623
Plato, Spengler, Toynbee, Heidegger, Jung, Eliade, Campbell, Blake and PKD.

just only Dostoevsky. i am going to shamelessly steal his whole thing and use it in a modern setting.

>>20168623
F. Gardner, Cumgenius, Butterfly, Hydegger, Novalis's pasta and that anon who wrote nigger as 1/3 of his novel

>>20169226
I'm trying

>>20169161
I'm not a tankie though? Hitler wasn't the idealogist of the NSDAP, he was just charismatic which is why he became it's leader. My point is that Marx is actually responsible for Marxism while Hitler merely brought National Socialism forth to the German people

Akiva, Mishnah, Rashi, Rambam, Moshe ben Shem-Tov, Luria, Hagra

>>20169276
based

>>20169317
Wahallah my brother!

Abvinavagupta, Utpaladeva, Plato, Maximus the Confessor, Kant, Swedenborg, Heidegger, Hitler, Deleuze, Land, Roman Mikhailov.

>>20168623
Henry James, Gustave Flaubert, Morrissey, Wittgenstein, Nietzsche, Mann

Simple as

>>20168623
Sneed, Chuck, Taleb, Vikernes, Chungus

>>20168644
>>20169073
Is Aristotle still worth reading in this day and age?

Jacques Ellul, Jesus Christ, Seraphim Rose, Maximus the Confessor, Gregory of Nyssa, Paul of Tarsus

>>20169409

>>20168623
Diogenes

>>20168623
>my dad
>my grandad
>my year 5&6 teacher
>George Elliot
>Tsukumizu
>Ian Curtis

>>20170043
>dad
>granddad
In the end, thats what it boils down to isnt it

>>20168897
weininger said he was trying to synthesize "Plato, Christianity, and Kant"

>>20168623
Virtually all preceding animals, plants, and nonliving objects

>>20168623
Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Destiny

>Laozi
>Zhuangzi
>Siddhartha Gautama
>Pyrrho
>Gorgias
>Pedro Calderon de la Barca

Aleister Crowley
Miguel Serrano
David Myatt

yeats, shakespeare, shelley, wordsworth, joyce, maybe tolkien, hideo kojima, evangelion (including rebuild), zhang yimou, john woo, bladee, ag cook, various composers like bach wagner and josquin, maybe jam & lewis

Sun tzu, machiavelli, malcolm gladwell

>>20168623
Wikipedia rarely seems to list influences that were influences in the "negative" sense ie by disagreement with them. People also call way too many influences. I've read some stuff from Wittgenstein I agree with or find personally interesting but by that formula, nearly everyone would be an influence. Influences should narrow down to a maximum of 3-4 names that inform the entire intellectual's project. In my case, I am only interested in Christianity vis-a-vis "The World". What interests me specifically is the opposition between Christians and "The World" as mentioned in the NT and as observed by my own eyes, these two large overarching forces, The Gospel in one corner and The World in the other are incompatible with eachother. In that sense the three most interesting strains are Christian texts and intellectuals, Nietzsche who is the champion of The World and Marxism which is inverted Christianity a social/material utopia and in that respect ultimately of The World. Of course the network of useful ideas is much wider than that but in the large sense it can be narrowed down to these three ideas. Intellectually this is what interests me as the ultimate question. But tangentially of course you could list numerous additions, now I am reading a business book and it is peculiar how the very process of creating a product/service already explicitly presupposes targeting man's desire for money, social status, excitement, sensual desire, protection etc. as key drivers of purchase. In that sense as is obvious to anyone the economy itself is already functioning according to principles of "the world" by causing a self-propagating loop of enslavement of man to idols or vice. Of course the author makes no moral judgement about it nor likely has any metaphysical thought about it whatsoever, but it is precisely this that makes it interesting, the hyper-optimization towards idolization and self-enslavement in consumers in an environment of hierarchical competition, that gets, by economic necessity and by unrestrained economic freedom, evermore, for the lack of better term, degenerate and paradoxically anti-social, yet somehow man's limited lifespan prevents him from ever learning this or acting against it, an impossibility maybe now that the cat is out of the bag already. Of course some quite happily exist within these conditions with no respect towards any communal feeling or longevity and sustainability beyond themselves.

Hemingway
Kerouac
Jack London
Eugene O’Neill

>>20169997
Well he did expound now disproven cosmology and abhorrent moral principles (eg women inferior, certain peoples made for servitude). There are more worthy modern philosophers to read.

>>20168623
Plato, Plutarch, Montaigne, Shakespeare, Goethe, Emerson, Thoreau, Nietzsche, and Freud

>Virtually all subsequent Western philosophy (and religion)
Pretty Chad tbqh

>>20170253
what about succeeding stars, comets, planets and void?

>>20168623
Wu Tang Clan, K-dot, Nas, NWA, Tupac, Biggie, Mos Def, and Macklemore

>>20171062
who dis?

>>20171080
Plato

>>20171090
>Plato
>influenced especially Platonism
I'm not surprised

>>20169276
Imagine copying posts >>20168808 on 4chan to farm for yous. Seriously pathetic, kys

Gustave Flaubert, Vladimir Nabokov, Ismail Kadaré, Yukio Mishima, Homer, Aristotle, Plato, T.S. Eliot, J.B. Peterson, Roger Scruton, St. Thomas Aquinas, Ortega y Gasset, Eric Voegelin and De Maistre.

>>20171074
>Mos Def
I am the most beautiful boogie man

>>20168883
I think his diary was released from a FOIA request

>>20168623
Levinas, Hume, Pseudo Dionysius, Macrobius, Bernardus Silvestris, Nietzsche, Kant, Tolstoy, Synesius of Cyrene, Baudrillard, and Boethius.

>>20168623
My mum.
My dad.
My dog gus.

Nasu Kinoko, Scott Adams, and the author of Leftopia

>>20170043
>Tsukumizu
Anon from [s4s] told me to remind your kind to kys

>>20171283
>[s4s]
what the fuck is this board about

>>20168623
sam hyde (and MDE as a whole)

lenin, goethe, laozi, montaigne, schopenhauer, gadamer, merleau-ponty, arendt, fanon, tolstoy, ryu murakami, harlan ellison, jg ballard, flannery o'connor

Melville, Dostoevsky, Gaddis, Henry James

>>20168912
Is there any Wikipedia page that matches that? Homer was my best bet, but he doesn't have that Influences/Influenced section

>>20172402
>goethe, laozi, montaigne, schopenhauer

How is it that Pythagoras doesn't have Virtually all subsequent Western Philosophy? Do you need extant works to earn it?

>>20168623
Www. Backyard Gore. Com
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Aristotle

>>20168623
Herman Melville, Vladimir Nabokov, Joseph Conrad, Cormac McCarthy, Jack London, Michael Crichton.

>>20169409
I'd say very much so, he's the great grandfather of political realism

>>20171025
>abhorrent moral principles
seethe

>>20172477
Pythagoras's autistic number cult was rightfully banned in Rome. Only mathcels like him.

>>20171025
>abhorrent moral principles
assertion that does nothing to refute his beliefs

>>20172477
Because he didn't directly influence much of anyone aside from the Greeks. If you go by indirect influeces, it's pointless.

Burroughs, Barth, Pynchon, Ballard, Gibson

BlackPink

>>20168623
Castoriadis, Lukács, Marx, Hegel, Machiavelli, Thucydides, Heraclites.

Pic related is my page

>>20168623

Heraclitus, Epicurus, Lucretius, Porphyry, Spinoza, Rochfoucauld, Leibniz, Hume, Leopardi, Shelley, Stirner, Feuerbach, Mainländer, Lautréamont, Bakunin, Rimbaud, Nietzsche, Strauss, Gramsci, Benjamin, Heidegger, Artaud, Cioran

>influenced by...
>most of the major philosophical moves in the last 3,000 years (excluding the last century)
What's even the point? It's no longer an influence. Might as well cite air and breathing as a formative intellectual inspirations.

>>20172914
Who?

idk mine would be pretty normal...
Nietzsche, Freud, Lacan, Foucault, Butler...

I mean I've read a lot of authors in a variety of places but these are the ones who I have any depth of understanding...

I guess I got really into Yoga, Hinduism, Eastern philosophy in general, but I don't have as great an understanding of that I think, just the language. I'd really like to study the Bhagavad Gita, Bhagavad Purana, Lankavantra Sutra in depth. I'd also like to improve my Greek to the point where I can easily read Plato, Aristotle, Xenophone etc., and then learn Latin so I can read scholastic philosophy. The trouble with these modern "theorists" is their complete lack of historical philosophical understanding, they don't read anything written before the 18th century except Spinzo and Descartes, Plato and Aristotle, as if 2000 years of Philosophy simply vanished...

>>20168623
Lemmy

>>20172914
>pro-pedophilia
Maybe you have more in common with jews than you think

>>20172972
You're 40 IQ points less intelligent than you think you are

>>20172433
Idk about Wikipedia pages that match but it applies to a few presocratics

>>20168623

Nobody, I did what this board told me to do I read some of the Greats but they had no effect on me. I even read Brothers Karamazov, the book most shilled on this site, and it almost had an effect on me. I don't know what to do

>>20172991
>You're 40 IQ points less intelligent than you think you are
I think last time it was measured it was like 124 or so but that was when I was in elementary school and my parents were trying to get me into the gifted program. I'll admit I know people who are smarter than me but being super smart isn't always worth much.

plus I'm studying classical languages how dumb can I really be?

>>20172991
probably should add to this >>20173332 that these authors listed are only the ones I've been reading consistently for years, I do have a much greater background for their thought then I did was I was 16 but somehow it always leads back to them (not Butler, I just think she's the only decent contemporary thinker even if her politics are retarded).

>>20173332
Don't mind him, anon, you just triggered one of his soft points. It's fun to take guesses at exactly what that point is, it could be your positive mention of eastern philosophy, or the negative remark about modern philosophy being historically short sighted. In each situation there are different reactive personality markers he has which you could've activated to cause that response from him.

>>20171025
>abhorrent
>moral principles
Yet more proof that "ethics" is a scam. People don't make decisions based on logic, but on emotion. Stop studying ethics, start studying psychology. When people use big words to describe muh morals and ethics, they're just providing post facto reasoning for "this makes me feel sad ;(" and "this makes me feel happy :)". It's all bullshit. The only ethical philosophers worth reading are Stirner and Ligotti.

>>20173431
"this makes me feel happy" < "this looks beautiful" < "this inspires a feeling of dread and the sublime" < "this explains my existence" < ethics

>>20173431
>Ligotti
QRD?

>>20169308
>Hitler merely brought National Socialism forth to the German people
Which was his entire goal. The point of fascism is that it is a natural system which adopts itself to the spirit of the people. That's why although there were a few core similarities, there were also a lot of differences between Germany, Italy, Japan, etc.
He is still one of the most important figures of recent history, and most people (probably including you) have no idea what the man actually believed.

>>20168623
Plotinus, Maximus the Confessor, Hegel, Segei Bulgakov, Eric Voegelin, David Bentley Hart, Jean Borella

>>20172914
Would be utter kino if the early life section was an (((early life))) section.

>>20173553
That's my point. Ethics isn't real. It doesn't exist outside of books and philosophy classrooms. True ethics doesn't even appear in movies which is for better or worse where people actually derive their moral frameworks. Ethical philosophy only matters to ethical philosophers. People just have Pavlovian responses implanted in their brains by propaganda and respond to stimuli in predictable ways. Ethics is worthless for anything.

>>20172985
>>20173581
holy cope

Hitler and supreme gentleman

>>20173591
Ethics is absolutely real. It just entirely depends on what you mean by the word. For example, utilitarian "ethics" is not ethics, it is just social engineering with a philosophical veil to make it appear more intellectual than it is.

>>20173618
People do not make serious decisions based on strict adherence to overarching systems of universalist ethics. I doubt even ethicists do that. Even university ethics councils are pragmatic Machiavellians.

>>20168623
Kubrick. The fact that none of you said him yet means you are all plebs

>>20169073
Aquinas bros... i kneel

>>20171062
Wow this guy seems to have had a big influence on Platonism. I wonder who it could be?

>>20168623
Actual published writers probably don't write their wiki pages. I'm convinced wiki is completely controlled by redditors that do it for free

>>20173618
>utilitarian "ethics" is not ethics
It is

David Foster Wallace, Emil Cioran, H.P. Lovecraft, Harlan Ellison, Sean Carrol

Wong Kar Wai, Fyodor Dostoevsky, MF Doom, Richard Linklater, Wes Anderson, Kanye West, St John the Apostle, Henry Miller, Herman Hesse, Moses, George Orwell, J Dilla

>>20172915
Recommend more, oh, nihilistic God. I reciprocate with Heisman

>>20173569
>and most people (probably including you) have no idea what the man actually believed.
because he was a dogshit writer, at least I know exactly what Marx wanted and everything he thought of capitalism, what exactly were Hitler's positions beyond winging it wherever it went?
Hitler is remembered as a historical figure, not as someone who influenced philosophy

>>20173992
>>20175055
wrong board faggots

>>20172892
basado

>>20172914
this minus the cunny and domestic assault.

>>20176113
Marx is remembered as a schizophrenic. Anyone who cosiders his vomit philosophy has mental issues. Economics is not philosophy, social science is not philosophy, schizophrenia is not philosophy. I don't care how many "Marxist philosophers" academia shits out, they're just social critics and terrible at it too.

>>20171111
wasted

>>20173109
Maybe you should think about what you read

>>20173332
>plus I'm studying classical languages how dumb can I really be?
very dumb If you pay for that

>>20168623
Porn

The Demiurge.

John Lennon

>>20172914
Ok I'm interested

>>20175451

I hear your plea, my child, so I shall respond: Jarry, Baudelaire, Bataille, Lefebvre, Rilke, Ellul, Lovelock (to name a few). Accompanying music should be either Schoenberg or Current 93.
Joking aside, despite my nihilist/pessimist leanings I believe the only real antidote to philosophical pessimism - and the world in general - is the Deleuzian "crowned anarchist", but I'm personally too far gone.

i'm not going to lie... there's a lot of jews in it...

Dazai
That's it just him

>>20176787
okay enlightened 4chan poster

>>20168623
Hitler, Aristotle, Russell, MacDonald, Hobbes

>>20168631
>Morrissey
Fuggen based

>>20173992

Nice to see someone else reposting my OC even though it has nothing to do with philosophy :)

>>20172881
Did Heraclitus or Parmenides directly influence lots of people aside from the Greeks? Is there much in them that is not found in Plato? Sincere question, I have no idea

>>20178441
Heraclitus directly influenced Hegel, Nietzsche, and Jung just off the top of my head

Plato, St Augustine, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Poe, Eliot, Borges, Hitler, Nabokov, Pynchon, F Gardner

>>20178593
Two of these are not like the others

>>20172954
DFW

>>20178596
Pynchon and Nabokov are hacks, true

>>20178055
>>20173992
The Shining was an allegory for how Kubrick faked the moon landing for the government

>>20178441
Yes
>>20178582
Heidegger too

>>20178031
Russell the zionist?

>>20178625
schizo alert

>>20179183
rent free

>>20176959
Jews are pretty smart fellas

>>20168623
My father, my mother

>>20179888
more like shitty fart smellas

>>20168897
too jewish for my taste, the both of them

>Arno Schmidt
>H. P. Lovecraft
>Jurij Brezan
>August Engelhardt

Cringey Pseud Faggots:
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Basedbros:
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>>20176916

Simple as.

>>20168623
My Influences would link to my wikipage.

>>20168623
John Gray, George Grant, Joseph Tainter, Peter Turchin, David Hackett-Fischer

>>20172914
Whos page is this?

>>20183293
le ironic memer phase is dated anon keep up with the times

>>20176839
I suppose only one of us has the free time to teach themselves Greek...

>>20178582
>>20179030
Heraclitus didn't write enough shit to be influential. It was more like these guys had there ideas and then read about Heraclitus (or already knew of him) and thought, "hey that sounds like what I said in a way but it was said by someone 2600 years ago therefore it's like ancient wisdom n shit."

>>20183293
That's it, you're going on my list.

>>20184890
Could I contact you? A throwaway, Discord, or else?

>>20178582
Saying "X influenced Hegel" is literally meaningless. Hegel is the historical-sense philosopher par none. He is "influenced" by literally every philosopher he could get his hands on at that time. He is the STI-ridden whore of philosophers.

>>20168623
Chomsky

>>20184893
Not really, his distinction between being and becoming is made very clear in the fragments we have from him.

>>20168623
Buddha, Solomon, Jesus, Shakespeare, Whitman, Kaczynski

>>20185237
Yikes

>>20176951
Could I contact you? A throwaway, Discord, or else?

I'm writing a book called The Philosophy of Minecraft Steve: Experimental Phenomenologies of Ontologically Caricatured Human Avatars

>>20186805

I don't have discord I'm afraid anon. what do you want to contact me about specifically?

>>20171114
Fitting cover.

Mine are so specific that anyone who knows me IRL would know it's me and I know for a fact some of them go here so I won't say it

>>20187423
Well, it'd be nice to be in contact with someone whose leanings are nihilistic/pessimistic, because I could gain a view of this tradition via you, etc

>>20168623
Filthy frank, robespierre, Fitzgerald, Gorillaz, Bionicle, Furronika, Kant, Red vs. Blue, Miniclip, Churchhill, Alfred Thayer Mahan, yugioh 5ds, Horatio hornblower (tv series and books), winnie the po, Warriors (cats), The mill keeper, my mom, Pascal.

>>20168623
Plato, Diogenes, Swift,
Scott Tucker, Nussbaum, Hume
Hegel,
Nagel,
Everything Bagel

>>20168623
Homer, Thucydides, Virgil, Plutarch, St. Augustine, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Keats, Melville, Dostoevsky, Proust

>>20170043
>Tkmiz
my man

>>20168623
Hitler, Trump, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Joker, Patrick Bateman