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John 8:12

Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

"dam jesus rly do be on dat gay shit frfr no cap"

>>20152893
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>>20152890
Austin 3:16

>>20152890
Philippians 1:21 says, "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain." Has been doing it for me recently.

This is the scariest Bible verse:
>But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. (Matthew 12:36)
When I read this I was so fucking scared. Just imagine that.

>Be ashamed of violating the truth of God and his covenant and of putting your elbows on the table
All you need really

>>20152927
I don't get it. I sounds like it's gain to leave Christ.

>>20152940
>all my 4chan posts will be read out loud during the Judgement Day
<span class="xae" data-xae="kay">&#x1F610;[/spoiler] this is going to be embarrassing

>>20152945
In this life you follow Christ to live forever. It's the secular version of, "those who follow me will receive eternal life."

>>20152950
Wait til Saint Peter gets to your furry phase

>>20152950
Not only that, but every idle thought you've ever had, every cruel or callous intent, everything will be scrutinised and you'll have to give an account for it. It's going to be like getting a scolding from your father but 10x worse and more shameful.

>>20152966
Wrong. You will give account and forgiven because you repent

>>20152973
Yes, but the point is you will see yourself in a completely truthful and objective light. All the immoral thoughts, words, and actions you've ever committed will be shown to you, and you'll see how depraved you've been. It will be shameful at first but then you'll feel the mercy of forgiveness and it will be wonderful. So it's scary and wonderful at the same time.

>>20152966
>every idle thought you've ever had
The quote pretty clearly says the idle word that men shall speak. It's definitely talking about 4chan, not things your keep to yourself. That's a different verse.

>>20152962
>"those who follow me will receive eternal life."
I never got that Protestant doctrine. It's enough to believe in Christ to get into heaven. What? Sounds too easy.

>>20152994
I think the Calvinists have a lottery because there's only so many spaces on the bus.

>>20152966
That will take such a long time though. And does he really say we have to account for any thought? Or just words? Words are worse because it makes the world worse as well and influences others negatively, but thoughts.. I'm the only victim of my own ill thoughts.

>>20152982
Exactly. Having been a convert I've basically done this in life.
>>20152994
"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life" is John 3:15 senpai

>>20153002
>But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Christianity does not present a utilitarian ethic, where "harm avoidance" is the ultimate good. Rather, God is the ultimate good, and when we fall short of his goodness, whether internally or externally, we are sinning.

12:34

I'm right because I said so. If you want proof then read what I said. Cope is life.

>>20152890
1 Maccabees 3:19-49
t. mileiboy

>>20153002
>that will take a long time
Kind of irrelevant since it takes place in eternity
>I'm the only victim of my own ill thoughts
You're projecting your own moral code and underestimating "thoughts"

>>20153020
I like to imagine this anon used the time as his chapter and verse, and it took him another fourteen minutes to redditspace and come up with three sentences.

>>20152890
Luke 12:57
"Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?"

>>20153015
But how can you stop your lust? It's clearly out of my control.

>>20153034
The goal is recognize why lust is wrong and then minimize it. I think every Christer here probably watches porn, but our recognition of guilt defines us as somehow beyond it in a small sense.

>>20153024
>"thoughts"
Why are they in quotes?

>>20153047
>every Christer here probably watches porn
I don't, but I don't think it's a Christian thing. Porn is just usually boring. It gives me the same feeling as tiktok
>Why would you tape any of this?

>>20152890
Mark 13:13
>ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

>>20152994
Sounds easy yet so many even today cant believe in the truth. Christ has risen yet they deny him.

>>20153028
Imagine whatever you want senpai. I copied the format of the first post to buttress a reasonable format theme in this thread. Don't be afraid of spacing once in a while. Re**it doesn't have a copyright on it.

>>20153062
Except no one hates you for being Christian. I've been wearing my cross necklace for years, never had any issues. No one hates me, people like me even.

>>20153078
Yeah, I'm not going to start imagining you're not from Reddit since you type like it too. Thanks for the permission I don't need.

>>20153095
Nah you're good at imagining. I think you should keep trying. You might end up on what's real if you're lucky.

>>20153056
"what" do you mean

Can you be saved if you're not a Christian?

>>20153088
I'm sure if you google Christianity you'll get loads of positive and polite articles.

>>20153088
Speak of the Lord to the lost sheep of Israel or the sons of satan and you will see who loves you.
Have you ever made the easy choice between worldly things and Christ? They do make friends and family move from you quickly.

>>20153103
>reddit levels of seethe
Anon stop begging anon to imagine you as not a redditor and think about how gay it sounds to beg anon to imagine you as anything. At least the anons that beg everyone to imagine they are an anime girl have some ambition above "Imagine I'm not a redditor!"

>>20153117
No.
Do you want to be saved today?

Mea phobeo, manon pistol.
It doesn't look great in Latin letters, but it means >do not fear, only believe

>>20153120
What if you don't google it? There are no real life issues.

>>20153131
Persecution will be upon us, Christian brother, in times to come. It is at hand.

>>20153131
You're right, no where in the world are Christians being persecuted. That's right, anon. And certainly there aren't people made pariahs in their families for their faith. It simply doesn't happen.

>>20153123
>Speak of the Lord to the lost sheep of Israel or the sons of satan and you will see who loves you.
You don't have to be evangelical to be a Christian. Some people don't want to hear about it, and I don't know what service you think you're doing because it's not bringing them closer to Christ.

>>20153139
It almost sounds like you want it to happen. That's not a good thought. Also it won't happen.
>>20153140
>no where in the world are Christians being persecuted.
It does happen, but not in the West as Christianity is still the dominant religion.

>>20153141
I dont want to see my fellow man be sent straight to hell. Sharing the gospel to everyone is a great mercy for it may save them eternally.

>>20153117
Yes.
>To whom much is given much is required.
If you're a native American in 1400 running around killing boars and you've never heard of Christ, God isn't going to judge you by the same standard as a man who has heard of Christ and has all the equipment to lead a Christian life.
The thing is, it is always Christ that is doing the saving. It's only through him that you enter heaven, even if you don't know about him.

Mea phobeo, manon pisteuo.
It doesn't look great in Latin letters, but it means >do not fear, only believe

>>20153151
>I dont want to see my fellow man be sent straight to hell.
Then find a way to help them. Preaching about Christ to them is not helpig them, they'll just mock you, not join you.

>>20153149
Tribulation only straightens ones faith. One doesnt become strong without strain on the body. So too is it in the Spirit.

>>20153149
I wish I had known that before my parents and brother stopped talking to me.

>>20153160
Then go work harder in remote places, don't hope for persecution against Christians. That's blasphemous.

>>20153156
>Preaching about Christ to them is not helping them
What do you suggest instead if Christ does not save?

>>20153126
This convo unironically made me feel better about myself because I think I put up a good fight. It was an exercise, no hard feelings, I should go to bed. I need to quit 4chan because I don't like the idea of being a catalyst for a potential negative energy cascade in others. Apply yourself, eliminate the noise inside and out, and you will be fine.

>>20153088
People don't hate you until they do. They tolerate the cross, but expound the Christian position on anything from marriage to pride and they'll crucify you.

>>20153167
I didn't say Christ doesn't save, I said your preaching doesn't help them find Christ. You have to find better ways.

>>20153166
I merely warn you that your security as a Christian is not absolute in this world. You, like me, are not welcome to worldly people and worldly things. Prepare thyself

>>20153168
>anon is all one person
Yes, of course.

>>20152994
>>20153010
Council of Trent.

Against Calvinism:
>If any one saith, that man's free will moved and excited by God, by assenting to God exciting and calling, nowise co-operates towards disposing and preparing itself for obtaining the grace of Justification; that it cannot refuse its consent, if it would, but that, as something inanimate, it does nothing whatever and is merely passive; let him be anathema.

>If any one saith, that it is not in man's power to make his ways evil, but that the works that are evil God worketh as well as those that are good, not permissively only, but properly, and of Himself, in such wise that the treason of Judas is no less His own proper work than the vocation of Paul; let him be anathema.

>If any one saith, that the grace of Justification is only attained to by those who are predestined unto life; but that all others who are called, are called indeed, but receive not grace, as being, by the divine power, predestined unto evil; let him be anathema.

Against sola fide:
>If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.

>If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified, is only the favour of God; let him be anathema.

>If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema.

>>20153177
I havent any alternatives yet. I understand your anguish with the evangelicals. Youre probably around alot of them where youre from but you understand it is a mission with eternal stakes here. No one is saved without Christ and all must be told of him.

>>20153175
Sure, people get angry when talking politics regardless of religion. It's still not much of a hassle for most people. Most Christians in the West live quite comfortable lives, and when they don't it's not because of their faith. There are no serious persecutions today.

>>20153178
And I think you're too quick to judge your brothers harshly, possibly because you have a personal investment in martyrdom and persecution.

>>20153175
wow, so people stop liking you when you try to impose your values on them? shocking

>>20153200
>personal investment in martyrdom and persecution.
My treasure is not of this world.
Martyrdom would be a blessing.

>>20153201
Liberal individualism is not a virtue to be lauded, but a close kin of narcissism.

The world IS literally all Black and White.
This has helped me see through so much dishonesty.

>>20153201
A discussion is not an imposition, you faberge egg
And what is being imposed on people certainly isn't Christian ethics

>>20153227
I absolutely despise the "world is grey" sayers.
Bad things are bad.

Psalm 73:25
Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.

>>20153244
What does this mean? Are there no angels in heaven? Is "you" all humans? Also why are we sent to Earth instead of just being accepted in heaven? Just for fun? <img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="26" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/4459d60b_PepoG.png">

Hosea 11:3

Is it bad to fear God?

>>20153269
No. It is good and righteous to fear God.
Fear the face of God completely and you will fear the face of no man.

>>20153201
>I believe X
>REEEEEEEEEEE STOP FORCING X ON ME
Imagine being this fragile

>>20153291
How do you combine fear of God with love of God?

>>20153322
Do you love your earthly father enough to fear him if displeased with your unrighteousness?

If your father is unrighteous he may not deserve said love, but your heavenly Father who is greatest is deserving much. Fear the Holy Lord by loving him wholly.

>>20153356
Hmm, then is it fine to fear God but bad to fear hell? Or is it fine to fear hell too? Or in other words, if I do fear hell, how do I know it's not part of my reason to accept God thus making my love impure?

>>20153363
Why fear hell when you know you are saved?
Are you saved, brother?

>>20153369
Well, only God knows that. It's arrogant and sinful to believe oneself saved as if I decide.

>>20153376
I say unto you, open to first Timothy and you will know that understanding the truth leads to knowing one is saved. If you know what the blood of Christ means for you, the sting of death is gone forever and ever.
Wisdom, brother, wisdom. Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. It is also salvation eternal.

>>20153322
Matthew 18:3
>Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

A small child fears his parents out of respect, reverence and the awesome wonder that ”they can do anything.” There is also a fear of disappointing them. It is a fear that is a built in part of love.

>>20153103
>pls imagine me not being from reddit
I don't know why you thought that would work
>>20152890
>If I speak with the tongues of man and angels but have not charity I am become as sounding brass or tinkling cymbals.
I'm surprised there aren't more Corinthians 1 13 fags

>>20152890
Isaiah 63:1 KJV
>“Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”

It isn't beautiful in the modern translations.

Unironically Psalms 51:17

Does it make a pleb, /lit/bros?

>>20153499
Makes you a sub?

If God forgives everyone why not just convert last moment?

Mark 10:42-45
>So Jesus called them and said to them, “You know that among the Gentiles those whom they recognize as their rulers lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over them. But it is not so among you; but whoever wishes to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you must be slave of all. For the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many.”

>>20153508
Which book is that?

>>20153510
The Bible. It says God is infinitely perfect and good, so why wouldn't he just forgive everyone?

Isaiah 41:13

"For I, the LORD your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, 'Fear not, I am the one who wants (you)s.'"

>>20153513
So, no book?

>>20153508
God knows your every thought. He does not play games nor should you.
>Why not live in damnation till the last moment?
Why wait to be saved and made new? Why leave the opportunity to chance you wont miss out? Why live life without God?

>>20153513
Are you perfect?

>>20152966
Freud.jpg

>>20153531
>Why live life without God?
You can watch porn and masturbate without feeling guilty.

>>20153538
>satan worshipper attacks the ways of Christians
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/24edafcc_wojakNPC.png">

>>20153547
>projecting paternal authority into the real world
>not npc

>>20153508
Read "Sinners in the hands of an angry God". Hell is full of people who thought they could be clever instead of faithful.

>>20153562
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/24edafcc_wojakNPC.png">

>>20152927

>>20153562
Freudian here. Projecting paternal authority into the real world is a good thing. It's a well formed, non neurotic, superego. The NPC thing is if you internalise your mother's and project that, which leads to a weak superego. If you're not going to read the Bible in a Bible thread, and insist on bringing up Freud, you could at least read Freud.

>>20152890
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

>>20153616
Stupidest shit I've ever read. Paternal projection to Freud is a primitive function, he talks about it almost with disdain in Totem and Taboo. And Super Ego is not a projection but an internalization of paternal authority.

Anyway I came to read bible verses not basic bitch ideas of God

>>20153659
>Paternal projection to Freud is a primitive function,
That's if it's projection of a pre/Oedipal father, and if you're pre Oedipal or Oedipal you are not an adult.

>>20153659
>>20153703
Take your satanism elsewhere brainlets <span class="xae" data-xae="punch">&#x1F44A;[/spoiler]

>>20153747
<span class="xae" data-xae="flex">&#x1F4AA;[/spoiler] fight me faggot

>>20153541
>rubbing a man's dick
Lmao fag

>>20153155
that's a great one.

Take the gold is heavier.
Jesus 66:66

>>20153750
Witnessed :flex:

>>20152890
All of John 1, but especially John 1:5
"1. In the beginning was the Word: the Word was with God and the Word was God.
2. He was with God in the beginning.
3. Through him all things came into being, not one thing came into being except through him.
4. What has come into being in him was life, life that was the light of men;
5. and light shines in darkness, and darkness could not overpower it."

>>20153062
Indeed. Those that follow Christ will be hated and rejected, because they no longer want to be of this world, they want to be part of God's Paradise.

>>20153103
You got BTFO

>>20152890
John 16:33

it's such a beautiful verse, I keep it in my wallet and read it when I feel disheartened.

>Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

>>20155232
This one gives me some peace just by reading it.
Thanks.

>>20152890
Mark 9:23
And Jesus said to him, "If you can! All things are possible to him who believes."

>>20152890
The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. - 1 Corinthians 7:4

Do not conform yourselves to this age but be transformed by the renewal of your
mind, that you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and pleasing
and perfect.

For if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the spirit you
put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness,

idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of
selfishness, dissensions, factions,

occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I
warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom
of God.

In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
generosity, faithfulness,

gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

>>20153010
>Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. - James 2:17
>But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? - James 2:20
>You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. - James 2:24
>For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. - James 2:26
>"Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. - Matthew 7:21
If protestants understood scripture there would be no protestants, repent sinner and join the one true faith Traditional Catholicism. We are saved through faith, works and living in a state of grace which means you have to go to confession.

>>20153185
>Council of Trent
Is that Christ?
>>20155766
>James
Is that Christ? Matthew doesn't change the meaning of James unless you view James as coloring your reading of Christ.
>We are saved through faith, works and living in a state of grace which means you have to go to confession.
Confession is legitimate heressey.

>>20155932
>Is that Christ?
You quoted John >>20153010 is that Christ?
>Confession is legitimate heressey
Ask the Holy Bible
>If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9
In the name Christ begone now subversive jew

Jeremiah 13:26
>I myself will lift up your skirts over your face,
>and your shame will be seen.

>Romans 1:28-32
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

>>20154814
you're making shit up again christcuck

>>20152890
>μέτοχοι γὰρ τοῦ Χριστοῦ γεγόναμεν, ἐάνπερ τὴν ἀρχὴν τῆς ὑποστάσεως μέχρι τέλους βεβαίαν κατάσχωμεν
>"For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" (Heb. 3:14)

>>20155766
James isn't referring to the initial grace of justification but rather the increase in justification as we live out the Christian life as Christ commanded. Compare that to the sixth session of the Council of Trent which upheld monergism (quoted below). Where the beef lies between Protestants and Catholics is how we view that increase in justification; in Protestant soteriology much of what Catholics refer to as salvation (which it indeed is, belonging to the whole economy of salvation) is called sanctification.

>And whereas the Apostle saith, that man is justified by faith and freely, those words are to be understood in that sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed; to wit, that we are therefore said to be justified by faith, because faith is the beginning of human salvation, the foundation, and the root of all Justification; without which it is impossible to please God, and to come unto the fellowship of His sons: but we are therefore said to be justified freely, because that none of those things which precede justification-whether faith or works-merit the grace itself of justification. For, if it be a grace, it is not now by works, otherwise, as the same Apostle says, grace is no more grace.

>which means you have to go to confession
I don't see how the verses you've posted directly correlate to that. I think a much better argument can be made for aural confession can be made from the Gospels and then a reference to St. Paul,

"Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained." (Jn 20:21-23)

"Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matt 18:18)

"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed." (Jas. 5:14-17)

Notice the command does not say confess your sins straight to God. Notice also who they are to go to the “elders” (see Acts 14:23; 15:2 for example)

I believe that the strongest case that can be made for aural/verbal confession is from the Bible and looking at the apostolic Churches, I believe, though, that the historical argument comes short.

>>20153117
Yes, but no one is saved except through Christ. We don’t know who will be saved outside the Church. The Church is like a hospital for sinners with the best possible and time-tested methods of spiritual healing. Sure, you could also get healed in some back alley by a quack, but you’re much more likely to die or get injured worse. It is a narrow path.

>>20156305
I'm no great fan of Marcel Lefebvre but he had a really solid quote along these lines from his "Open Letter to Confused Catholics",

>Does that mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian's formula, “Outside the Church there is no salvation,” also reject the Creed, “I confess one baptism for the remission of sins,” and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of the martyrs who confessed the faith while still catechumens) and baptism of desire.
>Baptism of desire can be explicit. Many times in Africa I heard one of our catechumens say to me, “Father, baptize me straightaway because if I die before you come again, I shall go to hell.” I told him “No, if you have no mortal sin on your conscience and if you desire baptism, then you already have the grace in you.”
>The doctrine of the Church also recognizes implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God. God knows all men and He knows that amongst Protestants, Muslims, Buddhists and in the whole of humanity there are men of good will. They receive the grace of baptism without knowing it, but in an effective way. In this way they become part of the Church.
>The error consists in thinking that they are saved by their religion. They are saved in their religion but not by it. There is no Buddhist church in heaven, no Protestant church. This is perhaps hard to accept, but it is the truth. I did not found the Church, but rather Our Lord the Son of God. As priests we must state the truth.
>http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/OpenLetterToConfusedCatholics/Chapter-10.htm?msclkid=fa1aebbbb20e11ecb8ce7f11ee9f7b65

This was really helpful to me as I entered the Church from a Calvinist background.

>>20152890
As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I fear no evil- guy in bible

Oh ye of little faith-Jesus


The world is my footstool-God

>>20156224
and now you are seething
the circle of life for all redditors

>>20156373
>- guy in bible
Zoomers, everybody.

Mark 9:23-24 KJV
>23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
>24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

>>20153117
yes if the mormons baptize you

>>20156498
>And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="30" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/ed7d4c3a_wojakWithered.png">

Luke 19:27

Ezekial 4:12: And you shall eat the food as you would a barley cake, after you bake it over dried human excrement in the sight of the people.

Just really funny to me that people worship a pervert foreskin cutting volcano god that makes people lie in the mud and eat poopy bread. Just gross lol

>My God, my God, for this I was spared!
Zizek cucks seethe.

>>20153117
No. Any other answer is heretical. Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.
>Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. - John 3:5
>>20156369
Baptism of desire is a heresy https://youtu.be/oPw8aNNX0ds