/lit/ - Literature

What are you guys currently or planning on reading?

I’ve just a read a few chapters of game of thrones and I have been captivated by it. So far, my favorite character P.O.V have been Ned, Sansa and Arya. They seem more fitting in a high fantasy series than the low-fantasy they’re in. And it’s wonderful. Also, Sansa pov is especially great with how much in denial she’s in early on with Joffrey’s behavior. Tyrion’s was okay, same goes for Jon. I dislike Catelyn’s chapters, due to her lack of long term planning.

Just use this thread instead
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>>20136192
Newfag fuck

Just use this thread
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/sffg/ should be banned from /lit/ at this point

Book of Flora, Road to Nowhere #3 - Meg Elison (2019)

Flora was the best character to me in second book, so this didn't have the problems with the protagonist I had in the second book. The frame story has returned, with a bit forty years in the future, but with the vast majority taking place immediately after the end of the second book. This one doesn't have a plot. It's literally "let's travel all over the United States in search of a community that can accept us for who we are." That was fine by me. Sexuality continues to reign supreme.

A lot certainly happens in a relatively short time in books 2 and 3. There's an antagonist, but it's irrelevant really. The characterizations are somewhat messy and inconsistent. There are also questionable decisions made as well. This is the probably least dark of three, unless of course some of the specific offensive material is especially offensive to you.

Overall, there wasn't really anything too much either way for me to strongly like or dislike. The ending was well, whatever, so if that's what Elison wanted to do, why not. It doesn't make much sense, but eh, I guess mitigating the bleakness was necessary. I have to say, this series really lived up to its title. It's unfortunate the two following books weren't anywhere as enjoyable as the first for me and it almost makes me to lower the score of the first, but I probably won't. I could've done without reading these, but it's just as well that I did.

Rating: 3/5

Is this any good?? I barely got through book 3 when it came out, and it deadened my interest in the series and the author to such an extent that I only now found out book 4 exists, I have also not read anything by him since. Is it worth reading? How is Sanderson doing in general?

Depending on whether anything comes of >>20131636 this >>20136257 may be the last book written by a woman that I'll read this month. I certainly went looking through a lot, but it didn't go as well as I'd hoped. That's not anything different from the usual though. For those who become far too concerned about it, I only have plans to read four more books by women for rest of the year, but it may become more.

Last call to respond to this post with your favorite lesser read sff novel and one or more of them will be selected as an April book for the Goodreads group.
Three have currently been accepted:
The Worm Ouroboros by E. R. Eddison
The Last Policeman by Ben H. Winters
A Call To Arms by Alan Dean Foster

>>20136257
Would you recommend this to others? I feel as if you ended on a negative note.

>>20136288
>A Call To Arms by Alan Dean Foster
good cover

>>20136299
My recommendation is to only read the first book, as it works perfectly fine as a standalone. The latter two form a duology that is very different from the first two and for most people, especially men, probably isn't worth reading unless you have a very keen interest in queer sexualities. I'm not going into personal details other than to say while I have an interest from a psychological standpoint, it wasn't sufficient to enjoy these for that alone.

>>20136257
>Meg Elison
>Flora
Double pozzed

>>20136317
Oh, it gets better than that, Flora is a transwoman.

>>20136257
Are you just copy and pasting these from goodreads or are you actually reading the books? I find it hard to believe since you post a review every thread

>>20136323
That's disgusting.

>>20136192
Pretty much the only /sffg recommendation worth reading.

>>20136330
He reads books and give his two cents. He said it multiple times now.

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>>20136330
I certainly have been reading more in the last few years than I ever thought I would. There's no real need for me to blog about why though. Yes, I am reading all of these. I've often been reading for ~7 hours a day or so. In the case of Words of Radiance, as I mentioned at the time, I finished in two days because I got up and read for basically the entire day, then I went to sleep, for two days in a row. As you can see, I don't read every day and sometimes there are gaps. This won't always be the case. Eventually I'll be doing other stuff as well that will take up a lot of time so there will be extended hiatuses. It'll still be for entertainment though, probably.

>>20136371
I actually have a life so I’m not here to witness each and every post
>>20136382
What does this prove?

>>20136405
Well, even if I had had a book reading stream or something, that probably wouldn't prove anything to you because you'd be able to say that it was someone else doing the reading. What could possibly be proof to you? Do let me know.

Would the universe of Magic: The Gathering make an interesting fantasy series?

>>20136413
You seem to be unaware that it has been one for decades.

>>20136410
I’m not asking for proof of anything I’m just asking what that image was

>>20136413
I hear it is full of trannys ans sjw leftists, so no.

>>20136420
I’ve only been reading fantasy for a month. Is the series good?

>>20136422
That's my goodreads profile of when I started and finished the books. If you want to see what I've posted in the thread, you can look here.
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_tripcode=sffg

I'm not going to link my profile directly for privacy concerns of group members and because I have it set not to be viewable by those without a Goodreads account.

>>20136431
It's a shared world setting, so there are many series and many authors. Probably around a 100 book now in the setting, but I'd have to check. I read a majority of them as a teenager. Most of them aren't worth reading at all though.

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>>20136433
Samefag

>>20136433
Thanks I’ll look at your reviews, I respect the grind

>>20136270
I'm on book 3 (Borebringer). Does it ever get good? I hate Shallan so much.

>>20136474
Probably not for you it doesn't.

>>20136431
It’s what you would expect from a trading card game.

>>20136451
He’s pretty much the reason why I even come back to /sffg/.

>>20136179
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>>20136525
It's important to know I'm that not the only one writing about what I read. There's another guy who has recently been writing up about what's he read. In the /sffg/ Goodreads group there are over 200 members with at least 1 review. ~15 have 100+ reviews. Some of these members write far more extenstive reviews than I do. Although I have 400+ written in some form or another, there's one guy who has more than me. I have all these members in order from most to least reviews listed in a thread for easy perusal.

>>20136553
Do you have any idea on what you’re going to read on April?

>>20136584
Will Be Reading
The End is Nigh/Here/Come The Apocalypse Triptych #1-3 - John Joseph Adams & Hugh Howey, editors (2014)
An anthology trilogy

Oathbringer (The Stormlight Archive #3) Brandon Sanderson
Priest of Crowns (War for the Rose Throne #4) Peter McLean

Sea of Tranquility Emily St. John Mandel
May or may not post here depending on SFF it is. Station Eleven was arguable and Glass Hotel wasn't really arguable.

May Read
The Empire's Ruin (Ashes of the Unhewn Throne #1) Brian Staveley
Age of Ash (Kithamar #1) Daniel Abraham
Dawnshard
Some more in the Imager Portfolio
Orphan Black, the "second season" of the serialized continuation of the finished TV series

The next entries in two thriller series, as shown in the image. I only post SFF here. Not anything else, whether it be other genre fiction or nonfiction. And then whatever else I feel like at the moment. I change it around alot.

>>20136192
Personally, I'm about to start reading Tanith Lee's The Book of the Damned on Wednesday. I feel as if she's underappreciated and underrated.

>>20136192
I'm going to start reading Dark Crusade.

>>20136192
>What are you guys currently
City of the Dead. I finish the Umbrella conspiracy yesterday and I've just started reading it, like 30 minutes ago.

>>20136631
She gets mentioned even here despite being dead and unmarketable, so that's something. As for The Book of the Damned, that's one elongated wew from me.

>>20136659
This novel was odd compared to Wagner's other full-length novels. In fact I barely remember anything about it while remembering the other novels (and his vastly superior short stories) very well.

>>20136701
I suppose that means you liked it well enough to read another. How did it compare to the relevant game, or movie, or whatever relevant media. Or are they entirely original?

I must say, frens, my absolute favorite type of book are short story collections by a single author.

>>20136723
How many stories do you generally read in a sitting from such collections?

>>20136728
I tend to take my time with short story collections; I have this weird thing where after I read a story, regardless of how long or short it is, I like to take a 'break' before starting another one.

>>20136723
I especially enjoy short story collections with all the stories set in one setting. In those you get the benefits of short stories (variety, tight pacing, etc) but the world details aren't "wasted" from story to story. Old burger fantasy pulpists tended to end up with enough material to make such collections.

One more modern example I liked was The Throne of Bones by McNaughton.

>>20136762
Check out Rakefire. It's similar to Throne of Bones in that all the stories take place in the same world. Also I think it's the book that has a S&S story that's a homage to the Kung Fu TV show kek

>>20136192
I just got back to reading Elric.
The sod was at Tanelorn, but since it was too good of a place he went to a fucking desert... OF CHAOS.
kek, I fucking love this series

>>20136789
The Sleeping Sorceress was great.

Dorcas > Thecla(real) > Jolenta > Thecla(whore) > Pia > Cycrica

I haven't finished the fourth book so please don't spoil what happens or if he cooms in another sloot. Note that these are the rankings of BOTH their bodies and personalities, with the exception of Jolenta's personality dropping to right above cycracia or whatever that old bitch's name was.
I did not include Agia because as far as I know they didn't fugg. She would be right after jolenta tho.
THESE RANKINGS ARE CANON DO NOT (YOU) ME UNLESS IT'S TO TELL ME I AM RIGHT. I WILL ASSUME EVERY PERSON THAT READS THIS WILL HAVE BENT THE KNEE TO MY POST AND WHISPERED "based" UNDER THEIR BREATH. IF I AM TOLD OTHERWISE I WILL ASSUME YOU ARE SEETHING AND/OR RETARDED

>>20136772
Thanks. I'll take a look. The concept of that tv series has in fact interested me, though I have never around to actually watch it out of the fear of shlock.

>>20136807
Short Sun has easily the best broads.

>>20136179
Reading at night, right before going to sleep is a bad idea for me.
I get my blood pumped up by a certain character from a novel I am reading who treats the main characters like less than humans, the character even threats to execute them and openly says they will enjoy doing it.

Worse thing? this character is not the even the antagonist, this character is an ally lmao.

>>20136718
nta It's well written- it's actually TOO faithful to the game. Videogame puzzles are not very immersive when they're in a book. That being said, I did enjoy it quite a bit.

The only time it's acceptable to read a fantasy story with a female protag is if she's similar to pic related.

>>20136981
very based but this is a blue board fren

>>20136712
>and unmarketable
Do you mean unmarketable in this thread, or more broadly?

>>20136192
Just re-read the first two books of Vernor Vinge's Zones of Thought trilogy because I'm a slut for intelligent space opera with a huge scale, but didn't read the third and latest book (Children of the sky) because it's set back on the Tine's world of Fire Apon The Deep which was a bit to slow and political for me

Started clicking through recommended reads by authors I've never heard of and just started Eye by Tim Black last night. They're not a fantastic writer and it shows in places, but the story is pretty fun so far. It's follows the lives of residents of a suburb in Florida who are battening down the hatches for a category 5 hurricane. The eye comes right over the top of the town and stops. People go WTF and slowly reemerge to find half the town missing and surrounded by jungle with no power or radio or phone signals, the suburb is now right on the beach and the constellations are upside down

Maybe it'll be good. Maybe it'll be 2spooky4me. Either way it's only ~280 pages

>>20136179
I really like how Gene Wolfe incorporated economics and numismatics in his sci fi. What elements do you like in your SFF?

>>20137177
>What elements do you like in your SFF?
Never thought about it, but I supposed the the tax policies of A song of ice and fire.

>>20137269
As much as I like GRRM here's where I quibble with him. What was Robert's tax policy?

Without spoiling anything, will the the ending of Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun blow me away or will I have wasted my time? I'm almost done with the third book and I just keep asking myself what the point of any of this is. I've heard that you really just have to read everything for it to make sense, which is fair, but still. Stuff just happens and I have no idea where any of it is going. Also why is Severian so horny?

>>20137501
>will I have wasted my time?
Depends. What is your time worth?

>>20137511
not much

>>20137516
Then might as well finish reading the book so you can shitpost about it or whatever.

>>20136192
just finished mistborn: the final empire 7/10 how they killed ruler was lame. dont plan on reading the other 2 books

Any books/papers/philosophical treatises on what philosophers (old or new) think about living in a virtual reality? In other words, throwing away this world entirely, plugging your brain into something, and living a totally different life.

I've been looking for some dark fantasy to read and been recommend Book of the New Sun, what can I expect from this series? I've seen a bunch of reviews and people's opinions are really split on it being good or bad, especially the first book.

>>20137750
It isn't really a dark fantasy, I mean it can be moody and sort of gothic (maybe baroque is better term) but at the same time it isn't really what 'Dark Fantasy' tends to connotate in the popular vernacular either.

The primary reason people's opinions are split is because Wolfe uses lots of obscure and archaic words and religious terminology in the book, the conceit being that the book is a text from the future that has been translated and these are the closest analogues to some exotic future language. It also helps to both create the atmosphere and veil some the main character's actions.

This naturally splits people done the middle. I enjoyed it greatly, but I admit I had a copy of the Lexicon Urthus (dictionary of all the strange words used) as a companion to help me along. People feel like this stylistic approach needlessly complicates what is actually a rather simple plot, and they are absolutely correct in a very reductionist "just the narrative please" way, however that is sort of the point aesthetically and what gives the setting its Feel.

>>20137795
There's no need for dictionary if you have a bit of imagination and a passing familiarity with history and literature.

>>20137810
Maybe so. But most people don't, and I include myself.

>>20137845
Start with the Greeks, then. Soon enough you can enjoy Soldier of the Mist.

Just finished the red rising trilogy and enjoyed the ride. What's next?

Really wanted to give Kingkiller Chronicles a try but seems like the ending is never coming so not too sure it's a good idea.

>>20137915
>Really wanted to give Kingkiller Chronicles a try
Why do so many people want to read this crap?

Surely someone at a high advancement would recommend this Junior a book title.

Still reading Heaven's Laws: Prodigies. 70%. It has been doing a lot of things I like and the amount of plot/reveals with the overall pacing easily makes this the content of 2 books in 1. Check it out, xianxiafags

>>20137939
desu the first book was kind of interesting but then second book, he just goes full self-insert mode and less stuff happens

>>20136179
Are wh40k books worth getting into? I've never played any warhammer40k games (neither tabletob nor video), I'm just curious about lore. I'm obviously not going to try to read everything, I'd just pick the best ones.

>>20138074
This will never rule supreme or be king of /sffg/

Simple as.

If I read Hyperion and Endymion by Keats will that give me a better retroactive understanding of Dan Simmon's Hyperion Cantos? I read the novels a few years ago and didn't do any further reading during or after.

>>20136192
I found GOT a bit slow to start but from the end of the first book through the end of the third it is extremely tight.

Except for Bran chapters, those blow. His arc takes forever.

Currently reading Beserk. I have mixed feelings about the Millennium Falcon arc. On the one hand, the story and lore is picking up depth and starting to feel more substantial, on the other, it is getting a bit tropey and hackneyed with the stupid kid character.

>>20138148
Frog in the well.

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>>20138154
The fuck did you read Endymion for?

>>20136716
yeah it's defininitely the worst of his novels
the hierarchy goes bloodstone, night winds and death angels shadow at the top, then darkness weaves and dark crusade at the bottom along with his 80's modern day kane stories where at that point wagner had become a full blown alcoholic

>>20136723
I read Burning Chrome by Gibson a while back. It was surprisingly good. Turns out dude can write more than just neon infused cyberpunk

The Blond Beast comes marching
Brown peasents begin cowering
Blond Beast dominates the crowd
With a shout so fierce and loud.

>>20138464
Finally something based in this pozzed thread.

Dunyains could easily achieve world domination if they lived with us.

>>20138556
Dunyains would write PUA e-books.

>>20138559
Dunyains would be 4chan Jannies.

>>20138570
non-true, they would be the elite, the oligarchs, and the supreme rulers of planet earth.

Is this any good? I barely got through the first book when it came out, and it deadened my interest in the series and the author to such an extent that I only now found out book 4 exists, I have also not read anything by him since. Is it worth reading?? How is Sanderson doing in general?

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>>20138315
>>20136659
I actually liked this one the best. Might’ve been that I thought the opium addicted chick was a fun character.

>>20138608
What kind of autism are you diagnosed with that you keep posting essentially the same thing over and over again, slightly tweaking the words and image, as if to avoid being detected for spam?

>>20137939
Maybe cause unlike you they want to read something before deciding they hate it.

>>20138709
I read the comic I posted, which is sufficient.

>>20138709
Once you've read enough books you learn to just know.

>>20136192
Halfway through this omnibus of DS9 sequel novels. It's pretty good for a star trek novel series. It feels like the show.

>>20137939
>a bunch of large hearted geeks donated a ton of money to my charity fundraiser, Worldbuilders
>and as a stretch goal I agreed to chat with you guys about your sexualities

Ive just finished the Dark Tower series by Stephen King, the breakers, algul siento, the image of the crimson king killing his servants and fleeing to the dark tower, power outages and darkness following him, these images got into my head and I cant get them out. what a feel. Great book series.

>>20138791
Average Mormon when he blackmails a respected author.

As a man, I really don't think I can understand this book. The narrator babbles about her feelings non-stop and I lose the bits of plot interspersed amidst paragraph after paragraph of "I'm scared/nervous/confused." I'm a total booklet but I honestly feel put off from female authors right now. I just wanted to scratch my vampire itch, not feel like a some chick's therapist.

Apart from obvious stuff like Discworld and Hitchhiker's Guide, any particularly good funny /sffg/ series? Intentionally funny.

>>20138901
Hero and the Crown is the only good Robin McKinley book.

>>20138917
Dark Lord of Derkholm

>>20138968
What's it about?

>>20137795
So it's more of a difference of writing style preferences that causes the split and not the overall quality of the book? I might pick up the first volume if that's the case then just to check if it works for me. Thanks.

>>20138917
CAIAPHIS CAIN
HERO OF THE IMPERIUM

>>20138048
Best ones are undoubtedly by Dan abnett.
Eiseinhorn trilogy plus the ravenor trilogy follow up

>>20138974
An asshole businessman forces a fantasy world to become an isekai themepark for normies. A turbo-autist gets assigned to LARP as the Dark Lord for that year’s event.

though on Chronicles of the Black Company? just finished another series and i just started reading books in the past month

>>20139060
Okay that sounds fun. I'll give it a look in the future. I'm currently reading the Full Murderhobo series which... Seems to be straddling the line of power fantasy, parody and just kinda weirdly told story. It's not UNfunny, but it does feel like the author watched Castaway and was like "Hey what if I did that but fantasy".

Reminder that Ned is Jon's father. He married Ashara Dayne at a heart tree before being forced into the political marriage with Catelyn after his brother's death. Catelyn was married second, in a sept. Catelyn's children are the real bastards.

>>20139066
It’s a children’s book (at most YA), so it is a light and charming read.

Is Bakker homosexual bros? By chapter 2 there is homosexuality in both chapters.
Is he pro-homosexuality? Is he homosexual? Are his books pro-homosexual??

>>20138315
Nigga, you crazy. The correct order is:

Night Winds > Darkness Weaves > Death Angel's Shadow > Bloodstone > Dark Crusade

Bloodstone has an awesome beginning and end, but that middle section is a mess and pretty dull IMO. Also you should read Wagner's Conan and Bran Mak Morn novels if you haven't already. Wagner nailed Conan's character perfectly and the story is very dark though definitely stretched out since he was hired to write a full-length novel. His Bran Mak Morn novel is similar to Bloodstone in that it's also kind of a mess and very stretched out with lots of padding, but his prose is excellent in that one and the good stuff is fantastic.

>>20137000
Coward.

>>20137750
Check out Lords of Dyscrasia. It's very, VERY dark and has quite a unique world. And even though I hate magic systems and this novel does feel like you're watching a video game playthrough at times it's still darker and weirder than just about any other fantasy novel you'll read that gives off similar vibes.

>>20136192
Just started the third book of the series. I'm kinda getting sick of endless interludes. I see how Brandon trying to be smart and original with his "magic system" but it becomes boring pretty fast. Characters, are also bland and forgettable, even tho I did enjoy how they moved in and out of each other's lives.

>>20136192
Just read The Aleph and Fictions by Borges and it was quietly excellent. The witty, informal laconic style; the simple yet shocking twists and turns of the labyrinth. Simply wonderful.

>>20139177
I feel like the better interludes should've just been "occasional POVs in the main chapters", because it feels just weird partitioning them off like that.

>>20139120
He's not gay but he was 100% molested by one

Goddammit. I don't know what is happening to me, if I am getting old or some shit o now books aren't what ithey used to be. I can't seen to find any epic fantasy book or series of books that I think is worth wasting my time with. The last one was the Elric Saga. mediocre but straight to the point and with a good ending. I really liked Percy Jackson and him defeating demigods every or so book and hated the sequel where now I had to deal with one thousand news characters fighting for screentime and don't caring about any of them at all. Why it is so hard to find somenthing about a man or boy fighting gods and demons and saving or ending the world? I don't give a shit about the King of Bullshitland being a fat retard and his wife being a squeming and strong woman or some shit and then the protagonist being a little insignificant knigth that has to serve them and for some reason ends up killing one of then and becoming the enemy of the strong and scheming princess, no, I want a protagonist with a big sword killing supernatural entities or being the Choosen One, the Human Emperor. the Eternal Champion, the Antichrist, whafuckingrever. Why every author now has the need to put innecesary, mundane conflict in a tale of two universals forces fighting for dominion over the wolrd? I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR STRONG FEMALE COPROTAGONIST! I
DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR OTHER CAREFULLY CRAFTED ONE HUNDRED SECONDARY CHARACTERS! GO TO THE FUCKING POINT! I'm gonna not-literally kill myself if I can't find somenthing worth reading in the next few days

Currently reading the Iliad, A Shadow Of the Torturer, moby Dick, the first Lord of the Rings, and some other webnovels

>>20137711
checked... and David Chalmers, who is pretty well known academic philosopher specializing in the Philosophy of Mind, just came out with pic related. I have not read it but I think it is what you are looking for.

otherwise here is the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy article on 'Brain in a Vat', which is tangentially related

https://iep.utm.edu/brain-in-a-vat-argument/

Any western isekai recommendations guys?

>>20136192
Eddard Stark cleaning his sword under a weirwood tree seems like an insignificant moment but it's crazy how it foreshadows weirwood magic. 4 books later Bran sees visions of people performing sacrificing sacrifices to the weirwood trees feeding the blood to the tree. This is essentially what Eddard does: he kills someone and feeds the blood to the weirwood tree by cleaning his sword beneath it and letting the blood stream down into the soil. The Starks stopped performing sacrifices to the trees yet still continued the practice indirectly.

Asoiaf really has the best magic system in fantasy.

>>20139120
>Is he pro-homosexuality?
Yes.
>Are his books pro-homosexual??
Yes.

>>20139289
I've only read a couple, and I'd... Tentatively recommend He Who Fights With Monsters. It gets fairly interesting, but the first two books feel a little bloated with padding. Also the author seems to have an issue with repetition, very often you'll see the same piece of info delivered two or three times within a few paragraphs of each other.

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>>20139280
Will superficially read the book and site you suggested and report back if I have time.

>>20139314
Let me rephrase what I'm looking for: western isekai with main character who isn't chosen one by gods or other godly beings. He can be powerful, or even save the world, but has no personal motive in doing so. Preferably with cast of colorful characters that maybe will die or get harmed in some way.

>>20139408
You already asked this before. Fuck off already.

Who is your favourite knight in fantasy?

>>20139414
just a prank bro

Some friends of mine convinced me to read Name of the Wind recently and it was genuinely one of the worst fucking things I've ever read in my life.
It wasn't just bad, I've read bad stories before and it didn't make me angry. But this shit made me fucking angry.
In what world is this crap genre-defining fantasy? It's a log, rambling stream of self-masturbatory bullshit about the cringiest douchebag ever. I can't take anyone who likes this shit seriously, I find this book actually embarrassing.
Yet it has some of the best reviews of any fantasy novel I've ever been made aware of. Huh? What the fuck? Am I insane? Why the hell is this shit so popular?
Can someone else give me some explanation? Help me to understand how this book is so highly praised despite the fact that it's utter dogshit.

>>20139123
bloodstone is probably my favourite since it was the first i read so admittedly i am biased, night winds is definitely the best of his short story collections (although cold light and mirage are underrated). i haven't read his howard pastiches but i have read most of his horror stories and they're far better than anything stephen king ever came up with, as are his Adrian Becker stories if you like westerns
the covers for more bran mak morn novels were painted but the novels never got released

>>20139486
Something something reddit, something something Jew brainwashing

Is there a reason why GURM doesn't really describe the red viper guys death in that much detail?
He says the mountain puts his fingers into the gap or whatever but he doesn't describe the red vipers eyes bleeding or anything.
He gets punched in the mouth and just describes his teeth getting knocked out.
Where is the blood and guts, anons?

>>20139066
I tried two series by the same author and his humor, while having a modicum of wit that peeks out, was more miss for me so I never got more than two books into anything he wrote.

>>20139414
Is your particular trigger when somebody asks the same question more than one time? Are you also any currently known shitposters that we in the thread should be aware of?

I sampled about 40 pages of Blindsight. The premise seems interesting enough, the prose is shit but it's expected from science fiction written by a stem autist. My only problem is the protag. Is he going to spend the entire novel going
>heh, I've analyzed your emotions using my superior emotionless brain...meatbag
???

>>20139510
why waste words on blood & gore when you can use them to describe the slimy shits flowing out of dany's ass while sweat is beading on her brow
trying to push the last turd taking all her concentration

>>20139516
The only time I genuinely was like "eesh" was when he snuck a Doge meme in. It's fun watching just a complete insane idiot go, well, full murderhobo, but it's still weird. It also sort of feels like the plot actually STARTS more than halfway through book 1 which isn't a great approach.

>>20139280
b-ok's one reviewer doesn't seem to like it lol
>Thanks for uploading this dumb cunt's book, been wanting to read what 'philosophy' these weirdos have since the slew of articles about how he thinks 'virtual reality is real reality'.
anyway i'll give it a quick go and lyk

>>20139525
Nah, he gets his shit pushed in pretty good.

>>20138464
based Bakker poet

>>20139525
This is a problem I'm noticing in a lot of "shitty protagonist becomes better character" things, the early shittiness never quite FEELS shitty, like the story is sort of implicitly endorsing it, even if the positive changes are acknowledged as such. It's treated more like an awkward flaw instead of "Wow you're awful".

Waiting for Cradle books is killing me. What's another long progression or cultivation fantasy book series I can dive in to?

Redpill me on Rothfuss. I'm writing an article for a uni project and I need to expose him with the most embarrassing shit about his books and himself

>>20139408
>>20139486
>>20139510
>>20139525
Are you some kind of spambot or something?

>>20139552
I think I sort of spoiled myself reading Cradle and getting into others. They're not necessarily BAD, the others, but Cradle seems to have really solidified progression fantasy just by having pretty good characters. I liked He Who Fights With Monsters well enough, but that's a lot more game-y and such. There's all sorts of long-running ones on Royal Road, but I have no idea if any of them are good.

>>20139280
s-sorry dude.... i was taught to not judge a book until i fully digest it and understand it... but i may have to pass on this one. maybe i'm still immature
i'll check out the web article you linked though

Wasn't Cradle a communist book written by George Soros?

>>20139572
no apologies needed.. the book IS by an academic philosopher and I suspect the audience is either a) other academic philosophers or b) folks with a strong background in philosophy

the web article I linked is a neat though experiment that might be somewhat related to what you are interested in, i.e.: we may already be living in a digital world in the sense that.. our actual brains are being stored in vats, and a computer system is sending inputs directly into our brains, such that we have the illusion that we are in a body, living our lives out-and-about in physical space. Basically The Matrix movies.

Greg Egan's Permutation City might scratch your itch as well, but that's an actual sci-fi book, and not necessarily what you had originally asked for. it's the shit, though. wonderful book. That deals more with "mind uploading", which is also a bit related

This is what Yerin fans don't want you to see, this is how they make kids communists.

>>20139600
Thanks. I kept going through the Chalmers book and it does get pretty interesting. It's pretty good at introducing a wide variety of ideas.

>>20139560
The nigger doesn't write anymore and his book is embarrassing self insert cuckold male feminist cringe. Don't bother giving me a (You), I already know I'm right.

>>20139620
I think people just don't want to see yerin

>>20139414
>>20139562
>>20138698
I think we're being spammed by some kind of discord, or something. It's the exact same posts over and over again, but with just enough words changed that you can't reliably filter them. Since this is such a small time, slow-moving thread it's unlikely anyone but a handful of regulars will even notice and thus nobody will bother to report this spam.

>>20139498
Bloodstone did give us this kino.

>>20139408
The Magicians.

>>20139717
booba

>>20139686
No, it’s just one huge faggot who seethes whenever people are actually having discussions about books on /sffg/. He also seethes whenever his posts get deleted.

>>20139697
i prefer the green version myself

>>20139730
How can one person be autistic enough to do this for this long? He's manually editing the copypastas and even the images he sometimes posts with them, every single time.

>>20139717
Yeah, no. I watched few eps of the tv show, absolute po**ed and c**mer trash.

>>20139717
Stop replying to spam.

>>20136270
Its unironically the best In the series the third is the weakest for sure though

>>20139756
I wonder if he's just taking "stuff that got a lot of replies" that weren't originally spam and spamming them after.

>>20139686
>>20139697
>>20139754
bloodstone is the greatest simply because it is the most unpolished, original and energy-filled off his full length novels. darkness weaves and dark crusade are similar in that they continue the trend of kane being a maniacal conqueror who manipulates things for himself but bloodstone (which was written first by wagner but was released after a shitty version of darkness weaves was botched by a hack publisher) does the best version with kane yojimbo manipulating both sides from the shadows. the toadmen, the ruined swamp city, the northern slightly barbarian wolf kingdom versus the medditeranean moon-worship kingdom, the opening with kane killing the bandit leader and taking it for himself, the idea of a magical ring connected to an ancient alien super conciousnes it is brimming with 60's and 70's psychedelic soul

>>20136179
I want to read interesting sci-fi.
What I want in sci-fi is to have advanced technology or advanced civilisations and I want a story which essentially just asks what would it be like if x or y was true and explores what people would be doing in the future, how people would think, what societies would look like etc
I am not really interested in deep questions on human nature or the nature of existence, any suggestions?

>>20139766
It probably is, but it doesn't change the fact he's manually editing them to avoid being filtered.

>>20139772
expanse

>>20139772

>>20139757
The show is awful.

The books are great.

>>20139756
He has no life and this is the closest thing he will ever achieve anything of worth. Also, pretty sure it’s just the bakkerfag

>>20139778
>>20139793
Just report it and move on.

>>20139797
Reporting doesn’t work when it’s a janny doing the spamming

My ereader says I'm 20% into this and I'm just not feeling it so far. Do I just drop it or does it get significantly more interesting later?

>>20139774
It's probably the same bakker autist that was spamming before, but he realized people could easily figure out it was him because he just used the same images over and over again. So now he does stuff like this >>20139831 where he copies posts and images and slightly changes them usually just enough to change the image hash.

>>20139831

>>20139836
>It's probably the same bakker autist
It is him. He’s the only faggot that legitimately seethes whenever people discuss books. He’s also the faggot that makes the /sffg/ threads with the broken links to the good reads group.

Finally finished this after almost two weeks. Not sure how I feel about it. The setting and ideas were very interesting, but it still feels like a pretty standard first contact story. Pacing was terrible, with most of the action weirdly spread in the first half.
3.5/5.

>>20139892

>>20139582
Original title? Dreidel.

>>20139898
Why does this happen?

the absolute state of /sffg/

>>20139917
Because mods don't care about /lit/, and /sffg/ posters don't bother to report anything. So a single autist can spam a general thread over over a year without anything being done about it.

>>20139917
Because the bakkerfag hates it when people discuss books.

>>20139919
We can't do anything. Reporting doesn't work because mods don't care. Even if they bothered to ban him he'd just reset his router and go back to spamming. There's no defense you can use against weaponized autism.

Fantasy books with a hunk protagonist instead of a twink?

>>20139939

>>20139927
Must be incredibly sad that the spammer has no life.

>>20139943
He's done this for literally over a year. "No life" doesn't begin to describe it. He's mentally ill.

The Kaiju Preservation Society - John Scalzi
This was a SF portal fantasy and a metafantasy. By metafantasy I mean that this was meant to be an escapist fantasy for the author, characters, and the readers who wanted to escape the COVID-19 pandemic. It's utterly filled with three elements: cultural affiliation signifiers; pop culture references; and Scalzi's brand of humor. If you don't like all of those, you're already in for an uphill trek to enjoyment. The protagonist's catchphrase was, "I lift things", which he repeats often in various ways. I'm mostly indifferent, so that certainly didn't help at all. For me those were the problem.Also I just didn't find it interesting, engaging, fun, or enjoyable. Somehow a story about literal kaiju in an alternate Earth was made to be prosaic, banal, and insipid. I felt nothing at all for any of the characters, or really anything in the book. If it weren't for that it's relatively short I wouldn't have finished. The title is very accurate though and that was part of the problem. Maybe others would like it more, the current GR ratings would suggest that, but I don't know in terms of /sffg/. I think it would've worked better in a visual medium, whether that would be a movie, TV series, graphic novel, anime or whatever else. I'm just angry and disappointed.
Rating: 2/5

yeah i'm out
might as well just start a botns or blood meridian thread on /tv/

>>20138252
what happened to good isekai

>>20138956
based tomboy knight appreciator

>>20139656
she cute!
>>20139620
she furry

>>20139961
>John Scalzi

Imager's Intrigue, Imager Portfolio #3 - L.E. Modesitt Jr. (2010)

The first third was great, the second ok, and the third was fun. The first story arc was unfortunately far too short. The protagonist was in the same position as he was at the end of the second book, but now he had to face his deadly foe yet: a recreational superdrug that seems to be like a combination of weed, cocaine, and heroin. Worse yet, many are dying because fentanyl is being mixed into it. This was easily the greatest part for me and it made me moan at times. This couldn't have been handled better, regardless of my personal preferences.

When GRRM asked, "What was Aragorn’s tax policy?" were you at least amused by it? Well, if so, then you're in luck. There were 25 direct uses "tax" as a base word, and not a single one of them meant strenuous. An example:
>considering revising the Solidaran sales tax structure and imposing a one percent value-added tax on both the bulk sale of agricultural produce and of manufactured goods, on the grounds that the sellers of those goods were effectively exempted from the end-use sales taxes.

There was a lot that was similar. There was also discussion about ancillary water rights, land tax, the specific details of their particular form of government, and much else. I didn't enjoy it.

In what I wrote about the second book, I stated that the protagonist had some villainous tendencies, though I suppose that's only my perspective. The overall tone seemed to be "you should be grateful to those who dirty their mind, body, and soul for you, and may have irrevocably lost their humanity." Which to me, is arguable, though with considerable skepticism. I previously wrote about being co-opted by the system, but that was the wrong sort of statement. It'd would've been better to have asked what happens when someone against the system becomes the system? What then is there to rebel against or blame for failure? Well, there's other systems, parts of your own system, and yourself. It seems rather uncommon that the last of those is chosen.

Thus this trilogy came to an end, though the series continues on at a different time and place with other characters. I was concerned that both the ending and protagonist's character arc would remain unfinished. That feeling lasted until I was most of the way through. Fortunately, the resolution and epilogue provided both. However, I was conflicted about the ending because it was weak and disproportionate. I understood the rationale and I thought about what I'd think if this was done on my behalf. It's something to publicly condem and it's only human to want to avoid suffering the consequences of our own actions, even if it means that many others must suffer in our stead.

Rating: 2.5/5

>>20140045
>When GRRM asked, "What was Aragorn’s tax policy?" were you at least amused by it? Well, if so, then you're in luck. There were 25 direct uses "tax" as a base word, and not a single one of them meant strenuous
this is why I love imager lol
Land reform is a big subplot in the second sequence (which I think is better, I never finished Imager's Intrigue)

It started replying to itself.

>>20140072
He's been doing that for over a year too.

>>20139552
>Waiting for Cradle books is killing me. What's another long progression or cultivation fantasy book series I can dive in to?
Soulhome is the other good one (other stuff by the same author too)
Tao Lin's one is kinda bad but finally picks up steam in the most recent book, not worth the effort imo.

If you don't mind translated webnovels read Nightfall, it's incredible

>>20140064
You're replying to a spammer. That review was originally posted in this thread: https://archived.moe/lit/thread/20025582/#20025646 on March 6th of this year.

At this point he's just grabbing any random post from the archives and reposting it.

I pre-ordered a novella because it received a 5 star review from a source I trust more than most and was compared to CAS and Vance. How based is that?

>>20140087
He's also the spammer, anon.

>>20140045
I remember the spellsong cycle by Modesitt from decades ago, and even back then he'd be writing all these logistical details about how to pay for this or that kingdom construction project.

The Justice of Kings, Empire of the Wolf #1 - Richard Swan (2022)

This is a first person, linear, single POV memoir. Each chapter begins with an epigraph. Based on the cover and book's synopsis, you'd think it's about Konrad Vonvalt, a Justice in his forties, and that's correct, but not in the way implied. A Justice could be thought of as a marshal, magistrate, and inquisitor. It's their duty to seek out and prosecute lawbreakers, both in and out of the courtroom. Their sentences range from fines to summary execution without appeal. They answer only to the Emperor.

The sole POV, is nineteen year old Helena Sedanka. This is her memoir, written many decades later, as noted by the book's opening line. There's both commentary on how she feels about how she lived her life and a a few direct addresses to the reader. There are also a few instances where she tells you what's going to happen in advance. For this first book at least, the protagonist, if defined as the most important character, and the viewpoint character aren't the same.

I have mixed feeling about books that so openly wear their influences. Much about the setting is only a cosmetic change from their real world counterparts. The Sovan Empire is the Holy Roman Empire. Its banner is a two-headed wolf rather than eagle and much else is the same, including a state religion reminiscent of Christianity, though considerably more syncretic. The northerners are an amalgamation of Celts and Norsemen, more the former with its focus on Druidism. There's also a constructed language that's vaguely Eastern European. I don't know enough to assess how similar any of this is than on a superficial level though.

Only Imperial Magistrates, Justices, are allowed to learn magic, though that seems to be a matter of practice rather than capability. Every Justice can use the Emperor's Voice, which is similar to the Bene Gesserit's Voice in Dune in that allows controlling people, though it can be much more physically destructive to the environment and individuals. Aside from that a Justice almost always has one additional ability. Several are mentioned, but only a few are shown. The abilities are physically draining and may require a ritual.

The narrative is primarily about investigations and enforcing laws. It's certainly a fast paced story for the most part. This is not a story about adventure, heroics, monsters, or similar. Fights occur, but not that often. Mainly it is about sex. Sex happens often, in a very graphic detail. Overall, the purpose of this book seems to be setting the scene for the trilogy. In-universe though the purpose of this memoir seems to be to record a tale of regret for posterity so that the truth isn't lost. There are many times where the writer wishes her life had gone differently. If you're looking for a rousing tale of high adventure and sex with self-confident and assured female characters not certain of what they're doing, this is it.

I'll read the trilogy.
Rating: 5/5

>>20138917
>Apart from obvious stuff like Discworld and Hitchhiker's Guide, any particularly good funny /sffg/ series? Intentionally funny.
Stainless Steel Rat: kinda like John Dortmunder but in space (also you should just read the Dortmunder books if you want comedy even though they aren't sff)
Seconding the 40k Cain books, you can pretty much completely ignore them being set in 40k and still enjoy them
KJ Parker's 16 ways to defend... is funny, he has comedy fantasy books under his real name but I've never tried them
For some more speculative recommendations:
A Will Eternal is funny, dunno how much it'll work without knowing the genre but it's basically "what if the protagonist of a xianxia was Mr Bean?"
Bujold isn't a comedy writer but they have lots of funny moments, the Miles Vorkosigan books have a bunch of gags that are written as such and some of the Penric books play out like farces.

I see that the troll has adopted the tactic of creating a sense of no longer knowing whether anything is real or not. Destroying trust is rather corrosive.

>>20140087
Doesn't really matter, review autist will still see my reply to their post even if it is a few weeks later

>>20140141
Yes, I see your reply to what I wrote up about what I read. I'm currently reading though and didn't feel like replying yet. I may read the second sequence next month. It's silly but also fun.

>>20140110
I have the Spellsong Cycle as phsyical books from a purchase on a whim many years ago. I didn't finish the first book though. Not because it's an Isekai, which it is, but just didn't really feel it. Maybe someday I'll come back to it. Probably not though.

Oh, also, since it may not be immediately obvious, what I wrote in the reviews and the rating of them is being changed, but that's to be expected.

The Price of Spring, Long Price Quartet #4 - Daniel Abraham (2009)

Yet again 20 more years have passed, bringing the previous protagonists into their 70s, as 60 years have passed since the prologue of the first book. The central themes for this book are grief and renewal. While there are still fantasy tropes, I was moderately surprised to see how many science fiction tropes were added in as well. Two science fiction novels in particular come to mind, though I don't know how much of an influence they were, as it may just be coincidence. I didn't mind, but for fantasy purists their inclusion may be distracting.

This book also included many more parallels to modern and contemporary events as well as what could be seen as speculation on the future. The primary social issues are the rights of women, the homogenous society, war trauma, self guilt, ethnic nationalism, immigration, and ethnic replacement. Almost everything that happens is in reaction to these.

There are new viewpoint characters, though the older generation remained active. Relationships continued to be very important, on both a personal and international level. I think this was the strongest books for characters. A few of the characters sometimes seemed to have inconsistent characterization and their motivations were questionable at times, but strongly held delusions can do that. There were some cases of this in the previous books.

The narrative is split into two opposing sides. I thought one side was clearly the correct path to follow, but by looking at the opinions of others there's substantial support for both sides. I read the correct path as a cautionary tale of a oppressed group with delusions of grandeur and a savior complex who put aside their destructive history and ignored the harm they were causing. I assume it wasn't intentional, but two of the overarching themes of this series to me has been "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and that unwarranted kindness and mercy is destructive.

I'm not sure how I wanted the series to end, but I'm unsatisfied by how it did. It is a bleak ending, though it is definitive, which is probably for the best. Despite that I've finished the series I remain uncertain as to what series name "Long Price" refers to. I assume it means the cost that our actions from our earliest years may have on the rest of our lives. Overall, this is one of my least favorite fantasy series now.

Rating: 1.5/5

And to think, all of this is because people had the audacity to discuss books in /sffg/.

>>20140205
oh if this is because of bakker spammers shitting up the thread again I now support it and will keep replying

>>20140194
Yet another copy/pasted review. https://archived.moe/lit/thread/19972358/#19972360 this one is from February 22, of this year.

>>20140235
We know. Stop replying to him. The spammer feeds on attention.

>>20140186
>>20140192
Any idea why the autist is targeting you, specifically? Did you insult him at some point? I know he holds grudges which is why he obsessively targets Sanderson.

>>20140237
Nobody is reporting him so I have to provide proof when I go to the mods on discord later.

>>20140123
>published 2022
>5/5
That's a bold claim. Name some other 5/5 books.

>>20140237
No, he's pretty much sustained by the power trip of being able to kill this thread since nobody can stop him. His goal is to completely smother all organic discussion because he thinks nobody should be allowed to talk about books that he doesn't like. This is apparently fine with the mods since they've allowed him to do this since late 2019 without any intervention.

Are there any modern fantasy novels that deal with themes of heroism and nobility of character in a positive light? Most modern fantasy novels I've read disregard these qualities in leu of slightly-edgy cynicism.
Also can we not talk about Bakker anymore.

>>20140240
>Any idea why the autist is targeting you, specifically
He reads books and does reviews.

>>20140253
Have you read Wizard-Knight?

>>20140240
My best guess would be their posts such as these:
>>20136543
>>20136680

It's not the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

>>20140243
I rated it 3.5 actually.

Enough shilling, spammers get out.
I am looking for a dark fantasy series with intense battles, pitch black lore, highly intellectual themes that dovetail into real world philosophy, poignant character psychology, and just a hint of Lovecraftian horror. Is there anything out there like this?

>>20139432
The wizard-knight

>>20140243
The Darkness that Comes Before.

I know this thread is cursed right now, but I've read Resenting the Hero by Moira J Moore and really liked it.
The female MC is cute in an autistic kind of way and charmingly pragmatic for most of the time and the setting was interesting, imo. It's about a world that doesn't like its human inhabitants and fights them with natural disasters, and magic-wielding pairs (kind of) of Sources and Shields need to protect the cities of them.
Dunleavy, the main character, gets paired as a shield with a source she really didn't want to get paired with and it's funny, charming, and a bit dramatic.
It's touted as romance, but so far, there wasn't any.
I liked it a lot.

>>20139525
MC is literally doing his best to be a neutral observer.
>watch as the normalfag fears the observant psychologist

>>20140329
It's good to read books that you enjoy, regardless of what others may think about them. That cover is really strange though, as is the text. I wonder if the marketing people had any idea who their audience really was.

>>20140011
checked?

>>20140290
That guy is also the spammer. Note the derisive implication that there are no books worth reading, and how that post was just a setup for him to blug bakker's trash again.

Ninefox Gambit, The Machineries of Empire #1 - Yoon Ha Lee (2016)

Lee is another author whose novels I came to through their short fiction. I had concerns whether the central conceit, the Calendrical system, would be sufficient to carry everything. As with her short fiction in this setting, I still don't think it really was, but that was less of an issue than I thought it would be. Many people seem to have a lot of problems understanding how it works, but I undertand it clearly. I think the source of that confusion is trying to understand this as Hard SF when it clearly isn't. If instead you approach it as "Any sufficiently advanced mysticism is indistinguishable from technology or magic" then I think it'll be more a lot more comprehensible. To me it's basically Feng Shui plus the idea that beliefs create reality. Despite this, I still wouldn't personally call it a science fantasy series, though I can understand why it could be considered as such, as it does require frequent suspension of belief if you assume it's going to be realistic in any way.

The plot is the introduction to the protagonist, the preparation for the mission, and then the rest is the mission itself, a siege on a space fortress. Lee's writing style is rather different from I'm used to reading. It's often rather spare in many ways and prefers to intently focus on what it's concerned about. The main difference though is that for the majority of the book the protagonist is physically apart from the action because their primary role is as a tactician. This leads to a lot of the frontline action being told in short bursts from a variety of characters. That being said, if you primarily read books for well-developed characters with deep emotional connection, then this probably isn't for you. The dialogue in general is utilitarian, as is really everything else, and that's intentional due to how their society functions.

The beginning is definitely the weakest part and I wasn't won over until the very end and only just barely. It mostly did so by being interesting and providing a relatively uncommon perspective that had me considering various things. If you're looking for a military science fiction/space opera series that's mostly focused on action, then this is a perfect fit. It would be easy to call this grimdark, but I don't think that'd be accurate. Often in grimdark there's an awareness and melodrama about it being grim and dark. Instead, this is very casual and indifferent to how grim and dark it is, which again, I believe to be intentional.
On a different note, Yoon Ha Lee is a transman and that definitely makes this novel worth reading. I'll read rest of the works in this setting and try some of her other work. I may even try reread this again, or not, either way.

Rating: 4.5/5

>>20140369
Yeah, probably, but I thought I'd so anyway. A lot of those who just come into the thread would say that as well and not pay any attention to the context of what's going on.

>>20140329
>I know this thread is cursed right now, but I've read Resenting the Hero by Moira
>by Moira
Stopped reading there.

>>20140386
Yeah, it's unusual, but there are good femoid written books.

>>20140329
Looks like fantasy chicklit that's one step away from adventures in babysitting in a secondary world.

>>20140358
I know. I found it because I wanted to read something funny and lighthearted, and it mostly fit that bill. I think the cover and the text doesn't really do it justice.
At one point I just stopped reading blurbs or reviews and now I pick up books on my e-reader, start them and either drop them or am pleasantly surprised.
For me, this is in the latter category.

Okay, I need works with the general idea of 'young adults/teenagers go into new world to colonize it' sci-fi themes.
Or any work where adults just disappear out of the world in a finger-snap like moment.
Any kind of Voyager like stuff would be cool too.

>>20140433
That's certainly one way to go about it if you don't mind trudging through a lot of muck to find what you're looking for. Most people would prefer not to do that for reasons of time, money, interest, and general frustration. I don't think it's a bad path to follow though.

>>20140450

>>20140459
This guy must have a serious mental illness

any explicitly gnostic sff lit?

>>20140467
Where is the fun in it? Did /sffg/ shit on his self-published novel?

>>20140485
Japanese SFF media is gnostic strangely often.

>>20140508
Japanese sff has other issues.

What can I expect?

>>20140505
I don't think that's the case this time, but I have done that elsewhere to two self-published authors that have posted in this thread. Namely F. Gardner and Dusty Ridgeman (Rose). They can be amusing to talk to, but they also can get upset rather quickly.

>>20140485

What is the single most "effective" iteration of the "long extinct technologically advanced civilization" story in science fiction (or fantasy)?

Bonus points for the long lost precursors actually being legitimately extinct and not just off hiding somewhere or some shit.

>>20140595

>>20140543
>>20140508

Recommend a good fantasy series that is still grounded in reality like ASOIAF but has high fantasy elements like Wheel of time or LOTR?

>>20140615
>>20140595
now I know I've seen these ones before

I'm having a blast with the book of the new sun.
I've also enjoyed Dune books.
Thinking of trying Tolkien or Bakker next, I'm afraid Tolkien will seem generic after being familiar with fantasy and the history of lotr. Is it still enjoyable if you've watched the movies?
Any other authors worth checking out if you particularly enjoyed the new sun stuff?

>>20140649

>>20140368

The Price of Spring, Long Price Quartet #4 - Daniel Abraham (2009)

Yet again 25 more years have passed, bringing the previous protagonists into their 90s, as 100 years have passed since the prologue of the first book. The central themes for this book are grief and renewal. While there are still fantasy tropes, I was moderately surprised to see how many science fiction tropes were added in as well. Two science fiction novels in particular come to mind, though I don't know how much of an influence they were, as it may just be coincidence. I didn't mind, but for fantasy purists their inclusion may be distracting.

This book also included many more parallels to modern and contemporary events as well as what could be seen as speculation on the future. The primary social issues are the rights of women, the homogenous society, war trauma, self guilt, ethnic nationalism, immigration, and ethnic replacement. Almost everything that happens is in reaction to these.

There are new viewpoint characters, though the older generation remained active. Relationships continued to be very important, on both a personal and international level. I think this was the strongest books for characters. A few of the characters sometimes seemed to have inconsistent characterization and their motivations were questionable at times, but strongly held delusions can do that. There were some cases of this in the previous books.

The narrative is split into two opposing sides. I thought one side was clearly the correct path to follow, but by looking at the opinions of others there's substantial support for both sides. I read the correct path as a cautionary tale of a oppressed group with delusions of grandeur and a savior complex who put aside their destructive history and ignored the harm they were causing. I assume it wasn't intentional, but two of the overarching themes of this series to me has been "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and that unwarranted kindness and mercy is destructive.

I'm not sure how I wanted the series to end, but I'm unsatisfied by how it did. It is a bleak ending, though it is definitive, which is probably for the best. Despite that I've finished the series I remain uncertain as to what series name "Long Price" refers to. I assume it means the cost that our actions from our earliest years may have on the rest of our lives. Overall, this is one of my least favorite fantasy series now.

Rating: 1.0/5

I've had K. J. Parker on my tbr list for over three years now. Is pic related a good place to start or should i go for the engineer trilogy? I hear a lot of good things about the latter but Prosper's Demon has a really nice cover.

>>20140711

>>20140711
>>20140722
He also changed IP.

>>20140711
>>20140722
Prove you aren’t samefagging

Thoughts on this series(pic related)?? I was considering reading it.

>>20140748

>>20140728
He is. Idiot spammer posting and then replying to himself to generate more replies. /sffg is dead.

Rereading neuromancer it kinda cured some of my adhd. Went on to read two other books.

>>20140759
I'm still here, anon

>>20139831
It only picks up at the end. Brandon purposely writes his book to be boring on purpose so the finale and can feel more exciting.

>>20140778
Yes, we know you are.

>>20140759
The goal is the have everyone think everyone else is the spammer.

Been looking for a good series with a wizard protagonist, was thinking of pic related, but it sounds like trash. Anyone read it?

>>20140785
no no, you may have misunderstood me, I'm not the spammer, I'm the I-really-enjoy-PKD-but-also-Bakker-and-at-the-moment-I'm-currently-reading-some-Neal-Stephenson anon.

>>20140790
Just read a wizard of earthsea

And to think, the spammer is doing all of this because people were discussing books.

Is there a Western fantasy version of progression/cultivation or power fantasy?

Like following a protagonist or group of protagonists that eventually get so powerful they're marching through cosmic dimensions and battling outer demons?

>>20140790
Is this a choose your own adventure book?

Berserkfags, this one's for you.

>>20140824
I started reading Cradle because a random list on the internet said "if you like Codex Alera read Cradle". And also because I thought it was written by the guy who made Sim City and thought it would be interesting to read a fantasy series by him.

It's kinda a progression fantasy series. The main character goes from literally the single weakest guy in the empire to leading armies and battling his interstellar zerg queen daughter inside a raging tornado on top of like a volcano about to explode.

Holy fuck this is kino

>>20139498
>Adrian Becker
Didn’t know he wrote westerns, I’ll have to check those out. I actually read Bloodstone first, myself, but like I said in another post I think I liked it less than Dark Crusade. On Night Winds now and I think it tops all the novels.
>>20136807
Agia is obviously the best girl and best character. Not really but her trickery makes her my favorite.

Reading this rn. I'm enjoying it a lot. It has been years since I read a Dune book, but I'm falling in love all over.

>>20140836
I saw pic rel the other day and thought about buying it. I've never read manga in my life, what is Berserk like? grimdark medieval weeb violent anime?

I can't tell which comments are legitimate and worth responding to

>>20140847
fake

>>20140863
seems fake but is genuine

>>20140866
genuine

>>20140869
are (You) the spammer?

>>20140863
Splendid. This is my favorite book in the Dune saga.

>>20140878
Based jeribloat poster

>>20140888
Checked

I know nothing about Warhammer 40k, but heard only good things about it.
What is a good Warhammer book to start with?

>>20140842
I have codex alera on my list but keep putting it off. What are some of the strengths of the series? I know I'll read it eventually but I need a kick in the butt to make it sooner rather than later.

>>20140866
For me it's the underrated Black Swordsman arc. It's pure Sword & Sorcery.

>>20139177
>>20139195
Why do people dislike Sanderson here? I'm reading Words of Radiance and I'm impressed. It's a page Turner.

>>20140869
It’s easy who’s the spammer by using Warosu. For an example this is the spammer >>20140938

When does this get good? Only characters im kinda interested in are whiskeyjack and the bridge burners but they haven't done anything significant.

>>20140943
Unlikely that most anyone would do so though.

>>20140945
Not until book 2. And then it gets bad again from book 3 onward.

>>20140945
>Name character Whiskeyjack

>There's no whiskey in the entire 10 book shitty series.

>>20140926
The first book especially leans very hard into established tropes you've already read before. The series twists them all by the end, but subverting a trope first requires you invoke it. The main character is a dumb farm boy living with his aunt and uncle who goes chasing after some runaway sheep and gets swept up in a grand adventure when he meets a girl from out of town.

The twist here is, the aunt and uncle are brother and sisters. They aren't married and his uncle goes off to to have adventures of his own with girl while the MC is busy doing other stuff. The evil plotting schemer who betrays the girl and sets everything into motion turns into one of the biggest bros by the end of the series. In fact, there aren't really any villains in the series by the end.

Does sffg like revelation space and reynolds in general? I've never read anything by reynolds but I just started this and it's already getting juicy.

The Price of Spring, Long Price Quartet #4 - Daniel Abraham (2009)

Yet again 25 more years have passed, bringing the previous protagonists into their 90s, as 100 years have passed since the prologue of the first book. The central themes for this book are grief and renewal. While there are still fantasy tropes, I was moderately surprised to see how many science fiction tropes were added in as well. Two science fiction novels in particular come to mind, though I don't know how much of an influence they were, as it may just be coincidence. I didn't mind, but for fantasy purists their inclusion may be distracting.

This book also included many more parallels to modern and contemporary events as well as what could be seen as speculation on the future. The primary social issues are the rights of women, the homogenous society, war trauma, self guilt, ethnic nationalism, immigration, and ethnic replacement. Almost everything that happens is in reaction to these.

There are new viewpoint characters, though the older generation remained active. Relationships continued to be very important, on both a personal and international level. I think this was the strongest books for characters. A few of the characters sometimes seemed to have inconsistent characterization and their motivations were questionable at times, but strongly held delusions can do that. There were some cases of this in the previous books.

The narrative is split into two opposing sides. I thought one side was clearly the correct path to follow, but by looking at the opinions of others there's substantial support for both sides. I read the correct path as a cautionary tale of a oppressed group with delusions of grandeur and a savior complex who put aside their destructive history and ignored the harm they were causing. I assume it wasn't intentional, but two of the overarching themes of this series to me has been "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and that unwarranted kindness and mercy is destructive.

I'm not sure how I wanted the series to end, but I'm unsatisfied by how it did. It is a bleak ending, though it is definitive, which is probably for the best. Despite that I've finished the series I remain uncertain as to what series name "Long Price" refers to. I assume it means the cost that our actions from our earliest years may have on the rest of our lives. Overall, this is one of my least favorite fantasy series now.

Rating: 0.5/5

Is Night Angel trilogy any good? I read Black Prism and enjoyed it, but wasn't interested in reading more about the characters in that world.

Is there a Western fantasy version of progression/cultivation or power fantasy?

Like following a protagonist or group of protagonists that eventually get so powerful they're marching through cosmic dimensions and battling in outer space?

>>20141012

This too shall pass.

>>20140987
The universe and technology are cool as hell, but that's the only thing good about it.

Maybe we can pretend this is ironic performance art where the spammer is reposting top content to get as many upvotes as possible as is done on reddit.

>>20140869
This is why I was pointing out the spam for people. Not everybody visits this general every day, they don't realize how often he just reposts the exact same thing over and over.

>>20140505
He's the bakker autist, the same one who's been spamming this general for over a year. He gives away the game sometimes like he did in this thread by replying to himself to shill bakker.

>>20141012

>>20141071
At this point I hope he's using a script because this one >>20141002 has been posted several times already and he changes the numbers in it around a bit to make it avoid being spam filtered. Imagine him sitting there feverishly altering the text every time after he posts it.

>>20140987

I’m out of here, maybe I’ll check back in a few years to see if this place has improved. Goodbye to every except the spammer, I hope you die

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt
Awww yeeah

>>20141162
That's pretty much what he's trying to do. He's an autistic fuck that hates this community and is trying his hardest to destroy it. Because we have the most useless, incompetent fucks for moderators he's allowed to do as he pleases.

>>20141123
He's resposted the exact same thing several times in this very thread. He's not even trying to hide the fact he's using a spam bot, it's just that most people in /sffg/ don't actually read the entire thread, just the last few posts or the first few posts.

>>20141171
The only hope know is to appeal to the mods on IRC, since it’s pretty clear the spammer is either a janny or a minor mod

Ah, but if you bother the mods often enough about it, perhaps they will take the path of least resistance, having /sffg/ threads be banned entirely. That would stop the spammer, maybe. Could just move on to elsewhere though after finding something else to be upset about.

I like magic books

>>20141157
Fuck, he got me.

>>20141162
I'll see you in couple of hours.

>>20141154
>>20141171
>>20141177
>>20141179
Is he also the one what's making the threads with broken links?

I don't post in /sffg/ but saw you guys were having problems with a spammer, can someone give me the rundown? Is it the same autistic faggot who was spamming anime counterthreads?

>>20141202
Most likely. The fag really has it out on people who read.

Shall this carry over to the next thread?

>>20141071
>>20141241
What are you even talking about?

>>20141241
That depends

>>20141171
>He's an autistic fuck that hates this community and is trying his hardest to destroy it.
Why is he even here to begin with.

>>20141210
No, just read the thread and you would know that.

>>20141248
Probably thought it was somewhere he could belong like where he came from and when he realized it had those who didn't think exactly the same as he did, it was time for war against those identified as the enemy.

>>20141262
Sounds like either a complete psycho or schizo. Don’t know which is worst.

>>20141267
He's been doing this for over a year now.

>>20141241
No, looks like he was dealt with for now.

new thread
>>20141275

>>20141274
Oh, is this like in those SFF stories where they can't ever defeat the great evil, they can only seal it away for a certain amount of time?

>>20141274
Nope. The fag is still here shitting it up.

>>20141280

>>20141278
Won't happen. This board currently lacks a capable Hero.

>>20141282
Looks like he’s trying to ruin that anon who’s reading game of thrones.

>>20141305
I voted on the poll but it won't update the count?

>>20141311
Same, it won’t update the voting count.

>>20141311
>>20141318
Huh, I guess the site is broken or something else went wrong.

>>20141323
You can delete that post and use poal or something instead.

>>20137711
havent read, but picrel covers the medical (psych) implications of vr.