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Any charts to understand Americans? Pic related.

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>>20132330

>>20132805
Kek, every /lit/ chart ever

>>20133305
Did Egypt not learn its lesson the first time YHWH smashed them?

>>20132478
>future orientation
>children should have their own rooms
This is actually pretty accurate, and would help explain why millennials won't breed. They don't want to have their children live with less space than they had/too expensive to have enough space, among other concerns. Conditions less bourgeois peoples wouldn't even worry about as they have their nth round of children. For a more historic view of American family and fertility patterns, see the revelant chapters in Fischer, Albion's Seed.

>>20133315
>get thrown out of a country for having some sort of grain monopoly that pissed people off
>come up with ridiculous story about how God made the country uninhabitable to spite the people above you on the social ladder and lead you to safety

Patrician, anti-sffg subgenre chart.

opinion on Earthsea ?

>>20132668
If you're actually interested in liberal arts the best text I've found is Benedict Ashley's.

http://www.domcentral.org/study/ashley/arts/default.htm
Bibliography:
http://www.domcentral.org/study/ashley/arts/arts40bib.htm

>>20132668
Take off Strunk and its perfect

>>20134375
thx anon

>>20134375
I am. I'm beginning at last.
>Benedict Ashley's.
I'll give it a look. Thanks

>>20134380
Why? I'm curious

I don't like reading, I just like looking at charts and thinking abut reading

>>20134455
That's fine. No one here reads. Reading is for nerds lmao

>>20134455
You'll start some day

>>20133305
>tfw assmann

>>20133515
needs j.g.ballard's world trilogy

>>20132452
This is a chart made by a retarded leftist who imagines in his mind what right wing people like.

>jew shit like Chaim Potok
>Women in Love???????
>Plato's proto-communism

Also, Thomas Mann was a raging leftist and in no universe is he right wing.

Does anyone have the Guenon chart?

>>20134502
look in the mega

>>20134441
>12/100
failed /lit/ just like I failed english

>>20134552
9/10 here

says sci but is really lit

>>20132478

This is what we had. It led here. No amount of blaming Jews is going to change the fact that this delusion lacked self awareness and therefore was not sustainable.

>>20134528
Have a link?
Also looking for the „Start with the jeets“ chart

>>20132330
Anti-ADHD
Worked liked a charm.
Would include „The Mind Illuminated“ though. Best guide to Samatha meditation I’ve ever read, has helped my focus tremendously

>>20134690
I don’t understand why the red book is there.

>>20132805
Kek‘d

>>20134466

anyone got a good guide/reading order for Nietzsche?

>>20134455
Literally all of us

>>20132452
Missing Brave New World. Good book but very traditionalist themes throughout.

>>20134441
The stranger being higher than monte cristo, Dante's inferno, and actually the majority of these is insane

>>20132414
I can't find Myths from Mesopotamia on epub or mobi :(

>>20135184
Look at the wiki link from the sticky newfag

Also maybe consider reading Max Stirner (!), Arthur Schopenhauer and Richard Wagner before Nietzsche. And Kant before Schopenhauer, as he says to himself in the prelude to “The World as Will and Representation”. He doesn’t just plainly state it he says it’s foolish and arrogant to think of yourself so highly that you think you’ll be able to read one great minds idea out of the product of that idea.

>>20135295
Get them in pdf and use Calibre to convert them.
The automatic conversion is quite good and you can do a bunch of fine-tuning with the regex-editor (short and powerful tutorial provided on the side).
It’s a great tool and you could even contribute to the community by uploading the ePub version.

Also, what uses mobi nowadays? I thought the current standard for Amazon was AZW3.

Did philosophy of education anon ever share his chart?

>>20135321
been here for years fella but wanted to know if anyone had actually followed a chart rather than just using one blindly off the wiki

might consider the kant -> schopenhauer -> nietzsche progression but at some point it's turtles all the way down. yes, i know i can start with the greeks. no, i don't intend to.

>>20132330
I'm retarded so I cannot do photoshop
What should I do if I want to make chart

>>20135356
you can export to image from publisher iirc if that's more your thing

>>20132330
This is the 38 year old american virgin chart.

>>20135012
Because you haven't read the chart

>>20135390
This is the 38 year old american virgin chart.

>>20135396
I think some unfortunate black youths need their feet washed. Chop chop.

>>20134998
Thank you for this Anon

>>20134494
he wrote Zauberberg during ww1 when he was an imperialist. he only became a lefty after he met his jewish wife
rhis and many other stories(ie my friend who was basee until he fu ked an arab girl) just what good pussy does to a mf er

>>20135451
I thought he was a homosexual, no?

>>20134991
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>>20132330
Anyone have a digital version of Vectors of the Counter Tradition by Upton? I can't find that book anywhere. While I'm at it, does anyone have a digital version of pic related? I can't find one to buy/download.

>>20135451
He revised Zauberberg to be more pro-Weimar after WW1, it's mentioned on his wikipedia. Even so, the novel is too pessimistic to be for any particular political side.

What makes some think that he's right-wing is his "Confessions of an Unpolitical Man" which is pro-kaiserreich, anti-anglo, and quite shamelessly nationalist.

>>20136683
>reactionary
That's a long word for "meme"

>>20134552
>>12/100
That chart is ass anyway. Lmao at infinite jest being the best book ever.

>>20134341
Love it.

>>20134502

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>>20136683
Remove Pound, Spengler, Burke.

>>20132426
Mandela effect: Daniel Defoe isn't Spanish

>>20132478
My only real dislike of this is regarding the “white” status and authority. Everything else is perfectly fine.

>>20132411
add the complete works of Flannery O'Connor and J. G. Ballard and baby you've got a stew going

>>20132478
see>>20132476

>>20133296
Serious question, is there an actual American chart?
I would think it would include stuff like
>John Smith's account of the founding of James Town and exploration of Virginia and New England
>revolutionary War writings
>common sense
>declaration of independence
>federalist and anti federalist papers
>speeches by various presidents including Gettysburg address
>Monroe doctrine
>Teddy Roosevelt's books
>generals memoirs from the world wars like war as I knew it and a soldiers story
>meme section with all the political books major presidential candidates of the last 40 years have pumped out
>lit section with stuff from Ernest hemmingway and Mark twain

>>20138965
I’ve been thinking of making one for colonial America after I finish my behemoth list I’ve collected. I’m on book 3/30ish. As to your question, I have not seen one. Another anon a few months ago said he was going to make one but I’ve not seen any fruits from his effort

>>20139009
I'd be interested in seeing what you or he come up with
I could start a chart. Problem is I have not read enough stuff that I feel would be worth of a chart to recommend. I could LARP but I feel that defeats the purpose. A properly done American chart I do genuinely think would be among the best

Highly recommend looking into pic related if you haven't. It's dense but Smith's accounts I feel would be important for any American chart and its got other writings from early colonists

>>20138965
>>20139009 here, forgot to say there is this chart if you want to get some recommendations

>>20139045
Thanks, there's some good stuff here

>>20135268
It's not based on how good it is, it's based on how many people read it. More people will read the short, beginner-friendly novel than they'll ever read big, chunky, boring books from the times of dinosaurs.

>>20135356
try and do it in a powerpoint presentation, although I don't know how you're going to be able to make a high definition image of it. Send a smoke signal to 50°01'16.9"N 14°32'42.7"E so we can sort something out, you can give me instructions on what you want to make. I've made a few before.

>>20139356
kek

>>20134433
>Phaedo

>>20135433
The real stoicism is the Hellenistic one, the Roman one is self-help

>>20132330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdDNfTREQJU

>>20133305
Good chart except for Moses and Monotheism by Freud, absolute horseshit book. And I say this as someone who enjoys freud

>>20132330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NXj1og0SYo

>>20132330

>>20134494
Plato is proto-fascism, hence based. The right-wing is broader than your gay amerimutt lolbertarian conceptions

>>20139786
I liked it, its a fun shitposty book. I always get a laugh explaining it to my friends.

>>20132330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7AhsE57fwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlIgmTALU74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oImjjYN-OFA

>>20138965
There are a few /his/ charts on America of varying quality. For a lot of /his/ charts it's clear the person who made it has never even read the books so at least this one is better than that. Not sure why the writings of Theodore Roosevelt aren't included though, since they're pure vril and there are 4 books included on him here. Also, for Washington, the biography by Chernow basically just copied earlier ones without adding much so I'd look for another.

>>20138965
For Andrew Jackson I recommend "The Rise of Andrew Jackson" by David and Jeanne Heidler, as well as "A Nation Wholly Free" by Carl Lane

>>20139792
it's good to tackle the pressing issues of the moment

>>20132411
>No Horacio Quiroga

>>20139823
>>20139792
>>20139789
>>20139777
What is this bugman retardation?

Newfag here. Recommend nice stuff. Been interested on Yukio Mishima, literary impressionism and Death in June's influences.

>>20132452
I swear everyone who recommends Kaczynski has never read his manifesto. It's really badly written and makes very basic eco-anarchist observations.

>>20132330
Does anyone have the "How to Be Snufkin" reading chart?

>>20136683
>>20132452
garbage

t. reactionary extremist

>>20141034
That is the manifesto, retardo

>>20140974
Regarding Mishima, begin with "The Sailor who fell from Gracewith the Sea"

Anyone have a chart about propaganda/control of the masses? i saw a thread last week with recommendations but forgot to save

>>20141139
>>20135508

>>20139786
>>20139817
He even admits more or less in the preface that he is trolling. Even if he is wrong, there are still gaps in the story of Moses that cannot be explained

>>20134998

This one is good

Any gnostic chart for a friend?

>>20145336
Against Heresies

>>20141271
What's it missing?

>>20133319
>American family
Honestly great insight thank you, I've never thought of it that way before

>>20140422
I kek'd

Embrace the Trad, my fellow Anons.

>>20145965
Based and bread-pilled. Gnostics can go back to /x/.

>>20146749
mad because your theology is crippled and distorted by jews and their false god there, buddy?

>>20146778
>mad because your theology is crippled and distorted by jews and their false god there, buddy?
>LE DEMIURGE!

>>20132411
>no borges

Are there any charts out there on Aesthetics

>>20145336
Don't know if there are any Gnostic charts, but the usual recommendations are as follow:

Start with
>The Gnostic Religion by Jonas

Then proceed to the Nag Hammadi Library and the Pistis Sophia text. From there you can move on to
>The Gnostics by Lacarriere

Among the additional/supplementary books are
>A History of Gnosticism by Filoramo
>The Gnostic Scriptures by Layton
>Pre-Christian Gnosticism by Yamauchi
>Gnosis: The Nature and History of Gnosticism by Rudolph

>>20146871
>typical believer calling a gnostic swine
oh the irony. keep seething orthocuck, I am freed by Knowledge while you remain a slave to the false dogmas you cling to.

>>20139811
Read Hoppe. Monarchism is THE right-wing. Libertarians are generally monarchy/aristocracy sympathizers,the smart ones are at least, as stateless society implies a natural aristocracy will rise unimpeded by the democratic mob. Tell me what's right-wing about fascism, a populist rabble-rousing ideology? It's hecking racist therefore based? Everyone with common sense is racist. Most leftist prior the 60s were racists.

I remember there was once a chart posted here where the most popular or globally known books from every country was shown and I missed to fucking download it. Does somebody have it?

I think for Germany it was Faust and for Greece Alexis Zorbas, but I'm not completely sure.

>>20148420
Was it this one?

Started this list that I found in a thread the other day. Started with Stirner's The unique and its property. Although I've seen it posted often on lit I now regret not having read it sooner. Couple of hundred pages in I have my own critique so far that I wonder if it will be addressed before the end but pretty good so far. Essential read.

Gnosticism is just Christianity with extra retarded heretical steps that will only wind you up in Hell (inb4 WAAAAAH HELL NOT REAL WAAAAH... It is, you're on that path, I used to be on that path), replacing Satan the prince of this world with the demiurge.

bububump

>>20135334
Just about to share!

>>20148382
> oh the irony. keep seething orthocuck, I am freed by Knowledge while you remain a slave to the false dogmas you cling to

>>20135334
Just made a thread. Hope it was worth the wait!

>>20148420
Do you think of the one which is a map of Europe?

>>20132452
>the constitution of liberty
this book fucking sucks and isn't even libertarian why is it here.

>>20148408
If you read DTGTF and came out of it thinking that monarchy is the best system you read it incorrectly.

>>20151428
Don't you think that these books are too old to be beneficial?
*Asking because I'm in a self-education journey...

>>20152159
basic rule for Science: New is always better.
basic rule for Humanities: Old is always better.

>>20152415
I get that but they're inseparable.
For example, most of Piaget's works are based on scientific research. Doe they still hold?

>>20152502
Piaget is fundamental and still important

>>20149052
What is this suppose to be a list for exactly? It mostly seems to be spiritually oriented.

>>20152615
>For example
>Piaget is fundamental
And not all of his works. So, how do you approach old theories based on old data while you have new theories and new data?

Is there one about ecology? deep ecology and all that stuff ? i have a dissertation to work on. help pls

>>20139904
>>20140347
Thanks