/lit/ - Literature

Fantasy books with deep economy and finance?

What are you guys currently or planning on reading?

I’ve just bought the game of thrones books so that’s what I’ll be that reading soon. How about you?

>>20127421
I'm currently reading Basedbringer

>>20127343
This is a Mormon signaling to his fellow goons, they are taking over /sffg/.

>>20127472
Our King Bakker will protect us.

Euron is lamer than I expected him to be

>>20127490
Damn strait he will, he will banish the Mormon hordes and their foolish goonery, and we will bathe in the bright dawn of the new /sffg/ without sandersoi.

This is now a superior literature thread. Authors like Bakker, Sanderson and gurm are old and outdated. Irrelevant.
Isekai is the future.

>>20127573
Forgot pic

>>20127281
>>20127343
>>20127421
>>20127472
>>20127490
You have actually got to be the saddest and most pathetic person alive.

the more she drank the more she shat

>>20127421
Gonna start The Wind-Up Girl tonight

>>20127579
And he does it all for some pathetic, faggot of a author.

>>20127579
Don't lump me in with the Mormon goon please.

>>20127548
Do you have nothing better to do with your life that you have to keep posting the same shit over and over again? Are you that much a no life?

>>20127596
>Are you that much a no life?
Say that to the Mormon goon who shills Sanderson EVERY thread.

>>20127600
Nobody cares about your stupid, progressive author Bakker. Fuck off already.

>>20127601
>progressive
Yeah progressing Fantasy into philosophy.

>>20127421
Why'd you copy another post from the other thread?

>>20127307

>>20127606
Bakker is pathetic and so are you.

>>20127601
Bakker is traditional and a conservative. Next time try reading some of his work first before posting nonsense.

>>20127606
>Fantasy into philosophy
No, he isn't.

>>20127611
Fuck off already. >>20127589

>>20127611
This, even if he is a leftist, his work is traditional and conservative.

>>20127611
>Bakker is traditional and a conservative.
He's neither of those things and you know it. he's just your run-of-the-mill progressive.

>>20127616
No it isn’t, stop lying and stop shilling that piece of shit story already.

>>20127616
No it isn't. It's preoccupied with degradation and how people's anuses smell. Leftist garbage.

>>20127616
I hated this book

>>20127616
>his work is traditional and conservative.
>Self-professed male feminist and far-leftist whose books states that all masculinity is inherently toxic masculinity
It's actually pathetic you spend over a year to shilling that garbage.

>>20127624
Why?

>>20127611
He’s a seething faggot

>>20127622
>how people's anuses smell
It's about how Kellhus doesn't see people as human beings, but see them as a smelly unwashed anus that can be controlled and dominated.

>>20127613
I have never seen an author so completely dismantled. Bakker is over.

>>20127632
>a smelly unwashed anus that can be controlled and dominated.
Sounds hot... any fanart?

>>20127632
It’s actually sad that you have no life whatsoever, that you have to spend it all in here shilling a mediocre series.

>>20127636
>any fanart
There is a lot. In my opinion, Bakker fans are the most creative fans ever, all their fan art is good, you can find a lot in tumblr or reddit or even here.

>>20127281
>https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1079811-sffg
link is dead but you already knew that you piece of shit.

>>20127632
>>20127647
Why don't you have a life? Why do you spend all your time on here?

How based was Saubon?
>leads a desicive charge at Mengedda critically wounding Fanim forces, even overriding Kellhus's prediction
>hero of Caraskand, takes an impregnable stronghold with a band of a few men
>outspoken atheist and homophobe, doesn't care about Shimeh or inrithi faggotry
>calls himself a Beliver-King, never actually believes in Kellhus
>"I respect power, simple as"
>isn't affected by Meat at all
>gets betrayed and left to die, doesn't care because badass death is enough for him

>>20127639
>mediocre
Give me ONE series that matches the grimness, epicness, philosophy, size, and deepness of Prince of Nothing by King Bakker?

>>20127659
Any other fantasy series.

>>20127659
You should read more before typing something that retarded.

>>20127668
>>20127661
>responding to falseflagging spammer
Stop feeding the moron

>>20127674
No, the thread is shit to begin with.

>>20127647
Cnaiur doesn't look that supreme with Kellhus, even though his body looks better, Kellhus will always dwarf his slashed ass.

>>20127674
You already know the bakkerfaggot is just going to self-reply like he always does.

>>20127679
>bakkerfaggot
This tranny clearly hates Bakker and tries to turn every attempt to actually talk about his books into a farce.

>>20127683
Because the books are a farce.

>>20127683
This, he is clearly a Mormon goon, he is soiling the image of Bakker.

Many such cases.

>>20127683
He’s a bakkerfag, stop covering for him.

>>20127656
Pretty cool, he is very obviously one of the "Blond Beasts" from On The Genealogy of Morals.

>>20127691
And to think, you do this for free. Actually sad.

>>20127694
He is, I wrote a poem praising the Blond Beast.

The Blond Beast comes marching
Brunette presents begin cowering
Blond Beast dominates the crowd
With a shout so fierce and loud

>>20127716
Your poetry is shit.

>>20127718
Rude

>>20127608
That’s just even more pathetic

>>20127616
>his work is traditional and conservative.
No, it’s shit. It’s why it got dropped by the publisher.

>>20127747
It was too based for publishers, too epic to self publish.

>>20127750
No, it’s just plain terrible. Stop coping.

>>20127751
If the publishing system wasn't so pozzed he would've made it big, with video games and a TV series.

>>20127747
ok guys, any comfy fantasy recommendations other that Bakker and Sanderson? I would also appreciate some nonbakker/nonsanderson discussion.
Thanks guys

>>20127761
>>with video games
>he doesn't know about the official PoN Eroge released exclusively in Japan

>>20127762
I like Guy Gavriel Kay

>>20127762
I have finished reading The Second Sons trilogy by Jennifer Fallon, first book is The Lion of Senet.

Its interesting in that it is non-magical, and not really about battles. Its largely intrigue, plotting, and mystery. The setting is on a Twin-Sunned planet where there is no night, and primarily follows are young man who is a math prodigy that is able to calculate some astronomical phenomenon the knowledge of which threatens to undermine the state-religious power of some matriarchal cult.

I don't consider it one of the greats, but it is decent. What I do think it has going for it, that no one else I am aware of has seemed to manage, is making a fantasy series that is largely unconcerned with with legendary battles, dark lords, and apocalypses but still feels grand and sweeping in its stakes and consequences.

>>20127775
Does he write fansasy? It seems most of his work is historical fiction.

>>20127817
>Its largely intrigue, plotting, and mystery
>Interesting

I don't even like battle scene but come on, muh politics is the worst shit ever.

>>20127825
Personally I don't hold either as necessarily good or bad. Its all about execution. But if doesn't sound like your thing well luckily no one is going to make you read it.

>>20127343
Shadow Campaigns has a bank run subplot in book two and a crashing the stock market through massive fraud subplot in the last book (five?). They’re completely out of place and Wexler clearly just hates finance.

>>20127917
>lesbians good
>guns good
>monarchies bad
>money bad

>>20127947
Not that anon, but:

>>lesbians good
Have no problem with it.

>>money bad
Depends on the nature of money, but modern debt-money yes.

>>20127577
menocht is middling
heroes die is suprisingly good
mother of learning is boring
defiance of the fall is middling
wizard knight is critically acclaimed and doesn't fit the rest of the list, but not my cup of tea
he who fights with monsters is kinda ok in the beginning, but gets too repetitive
filmbumwinter would be great without the smut which is frankly way too boring (that one girl that wanted to be dominated by MC was hot though)

>>20127977
>Price increase from 2007 to 2022: 5,785%

>For me? It's R Scott Bakker. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor

>>20128052
>It's R Scott Bakker. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
Yes, and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>20128066
>Yes, and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>20128052
>>20128068
Mormon shill shitting up the thread, this is the misery of the Mormon goon.

>>20128081
>Mormon shill shitting up the thread, this is the misery of the Mormon goon.

>>20128089
A photo of someone who collects weapons doesn't discredit a factual statement like Bakker being a supreme writer.

>>20128089
You will never be as cool as him, you will never be as confident as him, you will never be passionate about a hobby like him, you will never have a band shirt and you will never be happy.

On book six of The Wheel of Time, Lord of Chaos. Rand is getting hard as fuck, I love it. Not hard enough though. Just read the part where an Aes Sedai bonded him against his will. He should have been way harsher on them. Here’s hoping he still will be later.

>>20127421
Last night I finished the third Garrett PI book. Right now I'm trying to decide between reading the next one today or breaking it up with something standalone first.

>>20127616
This is literally the definition of cope.

>>20127647
All of bakker fan art I've seen is fucking terrible. Including this. Looks ai generated.

>>20127775
more like Guy Gavriel Gay! lol!

>>20128240
this picture got me into Bakker even though after reading the series it doesnt feel accurate at all

>>20128240
>>20128266
It reminds me of the kind of fetish art made buy boomers that made me feel yucky that I would stumble across on Deviant Art back in the day, like really rudimentary CGI of women in thigh-high boots blowing smoke in the faces of restrained men with smudgy 2D backgrounds.

>>20128052
>>20128068
>>20128089
Get a life, already. I

>>20128292
oddly specific...you wanna tell us something anon?

>>20128292
You don't get high quality content like that anymore these days

>>20128305
Is there such a thing as a non-specific fetish? Like someone who gets off to vaguery?

>>20128323
There is non-pozzed fetishes that's for sure.

Should I get into the Terry Pratchett books? I thought they seemed a little cringey, but my friend told me I'd really like Guards! Guards!

>>20128464
It depends what you think of as cringy. Personally I'd recommend just reading from the start if you really wanna get into Discworld, but the first two/three books are more straight fantasy parodies whereas the latter feel more like real-world satire through a fantasy lens, coupled with some parodies of other genres through that lens. Mort's probably a better starting point if you just wanna read a more standalone one though.

>>20128493
>It depends what you think of as cringy.
I just hate awful, quippy, Redditor kind of humor. I couldn't get through Hitchhiker's Guide, for example. I'm told that the Discworld series has solid world building though, and I'm a huge fan of that.

>>20127631
Egnor is a fucking retard, and acts like a 70YO child

>>20128501
It has jokes, but they're typically more overt, constant snark rather than one-off quips. The narration and the footnotes are the major source of the amusement, whereas the characters themselves are generally fairly serious even within their absurd world. There's exceptions, of course, but people don't just become quip machines, everybody who does make jokes does it with their own sense of humour. Colour of Magic, as I said, isn't bad, but it's not really indicative of what the series really becomes. Mort is the turning point for the series, and it's largely disconnected even from the subseries it's technically part of, so it's a good read to get a grasp of how Discworld "feels".

>>20128518
Jokes and snarks are reddit, I would never read a book like that.

>>20128522
Just read the book instead of hating the idea of funny stuff existing.

>>20128518
>whereas the characters themselves are generally fairly serious even within their absurd world.
I can appreciate this a lot. I find that a lot of comedy in stuff like this can be a complete tonal whiplash, but it sounds like Discworld does a good job at balancing the two. I'll probably give Mort a read, and if I like it I'll give Guards! Guards! a stab. Thanks, anon.

>>20128528
There's occasional observations, and some characters are definitely a little goofy even at their most serious (largely the wizards), but I find it's generally used to endear rather than to just make you laugh. You won't be poorly served by just reading the whole series in publication order if Mort does appeal, though bear in mind there's also just some really weird stuff in the first couple of books that feels incredibly inconsistent with later portrayals (two characters in particular who're basically bit-parts feel completely at odds with their established portrayals as major characters later on), but everything else is generally solid.

>>20128528
Have a good time and don't shy away from smiling and having a supreme laugh.

>>20128545
This is the joy and happiness of the Terry reader.

>>20128266
The art looks awful.

When I open a Terry Pratchett book, I just can't stop smiling, one time I read Guards! Guards! in one sitting, and the sides of my lips were hurting from all the smiling, I never found a writer that makes this happy, every time I feel a little down, I just open a Terry book.

Oh goddammit we've got some annoying asshole now. I can't tell if it's a false flag to get people to dislike Pratchett or whatever but it's going to do that and... Guh.

Got to the lore dump in Beserk where Guts gets to the witch.

It's very similar to Bakker. In Beserk there are three worlds. A Platonic word of ideas, the Logos; the actual world of humans; and the modal world of possibilities, the Astral world's of fables like trolls and elves, but also a deep astral world where ego cannot reach and fathomless entities of possibility live. In deeper but accessible realms like the Godhand and Apostles.

The astral world's ability to effect the human is based on humans' belief, as in Bakker. However, humans can't seal the astral world off because their unconscious still has access to it via archetypes (it's Jungian in this way).

So the astral world invades from time to time, and does so at the behest of the will of unseen things in the abyss. This is similar to how the ciphrang seem to work.

The Godhand were all human once, whereas the Gods of Erwa seem to be collections of human souls, warped and twisted. Both feed on the souls of the dead.

Beserk looks at causality as a set of chains. Determinism is the material world is a prison. Bakker has extremely similar themes.

In Bakker, the God's are challenged by an amoral man (more a logic driven robot) utilizing the power of the Logos. Beserk is more Nietzschean. Guts is driven by pure hatred, the will to survive, and, at times, love. So there is some difference in themes because Guts' battle is two fold, against Causality (represented by the Godhand) and against his drive, mostly in the form of hatred, swallowing up all he loves (the Black Beast).

The aesthetics are also incredibly similar.

Do we think Bakker read Beserk? I know Beserk has its own influences. The Thirty Years War, Durer for the art, Nietzsche, Jung, Japanese folklore, Platonism, and seemingly in many places, the Evil Dead movies.

Also, anything else like these two? I've found I don't like most manga or fantasy, but I love these two.

>>20128576
something about Mormon goons taking over /sffg/ and shit like that.

>>20128603
If you say something bad about Mormons your post will be mysteriously deleted.

>>20128612
It's because it's irrelevant spam that isn't part of discussing /sffg/ like 80% of the Bakker shitposting.

>>20128618
The Mormon Menace is not irrelevant. It's like saying you can't talk about the influence of Catholicism on other writers.

>>20128595
Durer for example.

Anyhow, they both work great as myths showing the struggle against Causality. Unfortunately, I think their answers are both wrong. Human will can't overcome causality. Neither can man's share in the Logos.

It's as Paul says in Romans 7, we are in a war with our desires, instincts, and lack of knowledge. We are saved from this by the Logos, yet not the small light burning in man, but by the Logos itself in Christ. We die a death of personhood in Sin, and are ressurected to freedom in Christ.

Christ drives out the Legion within, sending them into the swine. We see the self destructive nature of the Legion in how the swine run off the hill.

However, since both works are incomplete and neither Guys or Khellus succeed, they both work as guiding to this insight.

Speaking of Mormons, what’s Orson Scott Card up to these days?

>>20128636
Logos is supreme

Ethos is sublime

Pathos is POZZED

>>20127817
>The setting is on a Twin-Sunned planet where there is no night, and primarily follows are young man who is a math prodigy that is able to calculate some astronomical phenomenon the knowledge of which threatens to undermine the state-religious power of some matriarchal cult.
You're right. That is an original premise. Thanks for the rec Anon

>>20127817
That sounds interesting but seeing the name Jennifer makes it a hard sell

>>20128660
If you at all even think about the author's name while reading a book, it's either an astounding/famous author so you want to remember their style specifically or you're hyperfixated on who wrote it as opposed to what the book is for whatever dumb reason.

>>20128660
We must not be corrupted by holes.

>>20128668
The name specifically is not the problem, but what it represents.

>>20128668
If you don't do research on an author how can you avoid those destroying civilization? Don't be blind to their ways

>>20128680
Heed this anon in all his ways. He knows .

>>20128595
Also the references to absolute idealism

>>20128711
Absolute supremacy

>>20128651
Do not fall in temptation. The cost is far greater than you'll ever know.

>>20127817
>Not Jimmy Fallon
Is this a joke?

>>20128734
You're not clever and you're not interesting. Shit personality all around.

>>20128838
Stop bullying anon for trying to help you avoid f*male authors

>>20127659
>grimness, epicness, philosophy, size, and deepness
if those are your metrics you might as well just read worm
grimness: nothing good ever happens to anyone, it's pure misery the whole way through, anything that seems good is later revealed to have actually made things worse
epicness: neverending threat escalation ensures that a story that starts at the "oh fuck, is that a knife?" level has people shitting entire parallel universes out of their asses by like the 2/3 mark
philosophy: apparently the guiding principle of prince of nothing is rationalism so you'd probably feel right at home in a book that is 90% comprised of a first person narrative from a character that thinks like a gender-swapped /r9k/ poster and who makes exactly one attempt at humour over the course of the entire story
size: if it was made into a standard paperback it would be nearly 4000 pages long
deepness: the whole thing is basically just a character study exploring the circuitous, self-justifying thought processes of a single intensely dislikable person for over 1 million words

>>20128868
Link please

>>20128873
https://parahumans.wordpress.com/category/stories-arcs-1-10/arc-1-gestation/1-01/
go nuts, anon

>>20127616
>This, even if he is a leftist, his work is traditional and conservative.
Imagine being so braindead that everything you see is divided between leftist and conservative. Seek help.

>>20128868
But it has a f*male protagonist which is pozzed. Bakker remains unmatched.

>>20128881
I also divide by Male and f*male, Based and unbased, pozzed and non-pozzed and many other things.

>>20128895
That's all fine, but you're a retard if you see everything, from food to movies to science fiction books, through the lens of two political ideologies.

>>20128898
Listen not to this purveyor of lies.

>>20128898
I also see things in retarded and non-retarded, trash and non-trash, garbage and non-garbage and many other things.

>>20128902
Shit personality

>>20128907
Propagator of lies and slander.

The bakkerspammer is a janny, that’s why his posts never get deleted

>>20128501
Although I can see why people call Pratchett reddit-like the comparison is always strange to me because it's sort of backwards. Pratchett wrote his stuff when Reddit didn't even exist and future redditors weren't even shitting their diapers yet. He is a significant influence on the Reddit mindset and humor but at the best of times those are watered down versions of what the man himsef had to offer. Unlike the Reddit hivemind Pratchett had actual talent and intellectual curiosity.

>>20128576
The bakkerfaggot has been here for over year now.

how do you feel about female orcs?

>>20129090
sexually confused

>>20128576
Anon, it's obvious it's the bakkerfag. I don't know why you're still using this thread and not the other one.

>>20129112
Truth shines! They are here because of that.

>>20129112
I’m pretty sure they don’t know the bakkerfag also change the good reads link since it’s broken.

Fucking modtranny do your well-paid job and rangeban the faggot spammer, I actually want to talk about Second Apocalypse. I didn't read 7 books for nothing.

>>20129132
It is is an unclean place in need of cleansing.

>>20129140
But then the thread will be deleted since he made this thread.

>>20128638
Still working on the Enderverse. His collaboration with Aaron Johnston to create two prequel trilogies (for the first and second invasion respectively) turned out very nice actually.

>>20129140
It is not for nothing. Reading Bakker is its own reward.

>>20129090
They are more durable holes.

>>20129148
Nah, you’re just a fucking asshole.

>>20128868
>worm
>nothing good ever happens to anyone, it's pure misery the whole way through
There is a difference between displaying grimdark to depict a point, and just throwing in some edgy shit for no reason at all.

>neverending threat escalation
escalates beyond the level of suspending disbelief. Dumb superhero-teenagers against an alien multi-dimensional being that can foresee all your actions? This is beyond retarded.

>apparently the guiding principle of prince of nothing is rationalism
The guiding principle of the 'Prince of Nothing' is witnessing the heuristic collapse of all your intuitions. You cannot know *how* you know, and thus it is forever your blindspot to be exploited.
The most illustrating moment is in "The Thousand-Fold Thought", when Cnaiur weeps: "They walk among us as we walk among dogs, and we yowl when they throw out scraps, we whine and whimper when they raise their hands...*They make us love! They make us love!*"

'Worm', on the other hand, COULD HAVE exploited some Semantic Apocalypse themes - it has interestingly problematic *situations* - but instead we have friendly very human-like AI with human intentions; an incomprehensible eldritch aliens that, however, are led into human-like depression; a dumb teenager that withstands brain-rewriting through sheer anger and free will; and other disappointingly mediocre shit.

>deepness
The author of 'Worm' is too dumb for the problems he brings up.

>>20129174
The honey of anuses is delicious.

hi fellow nerds , i want to get into a fantasy universe
i read the book of the new sun and of course i wanna reread but i want to have something to read as a buffer of sort
i loved that world what i would want is a dark world with characters who aren't archetypical
for me i love my books thick with themes and metaphors so the spectacle is not something i'm after
i would appreciate a book that rewards a reread
other than that i'm open to anything
tried sanderson but dropped after the second book of the stormlight archives (was reading with a girl i had a crush on her but even her couldn't get me to finish)

>>20129180
All these words to say you were filtered.

>>20129189
See! The **male leads astray! Trust no **man!

>>20129189
Come back here when you’re 18

>>20129184
Christ, how does it feel to waste your entire life shilling for a shit move.

>>20128846
Stop pretending to be someone else when its just you.

>>20129221
english is not my native tongue but i assure you my nigga i'm 28

>>20129235
Don’t expect any serious answer in this thread since it was made by a troll.

>>20129230
There is more than one anti-w*man crusader in this thread.

>>20129244
It’s just you, you no-life spamming piece of shit.

>>20129251
False. These posts were not by me.
>>20128671
>>20128686
>>20128697
>>20128734
There is no need to debase yourself in the defense of holes.

>>20129251
He’s also a janny

>>20129251
>>20129263
Why do you keep using this thread and not the other?

>>20129271
Nobody is there

>>20129281
So, you’ll rather be here with a spammer just shitting up the thread?

>>20129262
Christ, it's pathetic you waste your days here, doing nothing but spam endless bullshit.

>>20129288
Yes

>>20129271
Isn't this an active thread?

>>20129316
By the looks of it, it’s just the spammer keeping it active.

>>20129313
Then don't complain.

>>20129297
Thank you for acknowledging my efforts

>>20129297
Not him but I have seen exact same complaints everytime bakker is mentioned
You are calling out spammer when you yourself spend days reading his spam posts and complaining about them, at least you have stopped asking people to report him.
Kek this isn't reddit or forums, you seem like a newfag who is unfamiliar with chan culture and how shitposting works here.

The anons of /sffg/ have spoken with their posts! This is the one true based thread! BASEDBAKKERBLESSEDBROS!

>>20129346
>Shitting up multiple threads with the same bullshit is chan culture
It isn't and stop being disingenuous about it.

>>20129325
it is not the fault of spammer if others aren't posting, by the way how many posts has antibakker spammer made telling bakkerspammer he is pathetic?

>>20129338
>>20129355
You’re a sad pathetic creature.

>>20129362
>it is not the fault of spammer if others aren't posting,
It is you dipshit, but you already knew that.

>>20129112
Nobody else is in the other thread, is mainly why.

>>20129357
>>20129363
>>20129372
Squirm skinspy!

>>20129357
If you want to force a serious discussion it will never work on 4chan/lit.

>>20129378
So just go there and post and see if other people follow.

>>20129380
Last few threads were great, don't know where you were.

>>20129378
Popularity always has and always will determine how much people engage regardless of quality.

>>20129390
He’s just making excuses at this point.

Let me tell you the future:
This thread reaches the bump limit and is archived. The spam will then migrate to the other thread. It is inevitable.

What if the goal is to make posting any /sffg/ thread a bannable offense?

>>20129391
Finish highschool before typing something that asinine.

>>20129390
It wasn't forced, it was natural progression of thread.
This thread however, bakker spammer is just shitposting as usual and antibakker spammer probably posted twice the amount of spam complaining about the amount of spam in thread, lol

>>20129386
What people? Only spammers and shiposters such as you and I remain.

>>20129416
Then stop using this thread since the shitheel seems adamant in spamming.

>>20129423
Fortunately for you, you found a way to feel superior to both. Unfortunately for you, I found a way to be superior to you.

>>20129433
As do you.

After playing a shitload of Elden Ring, I got into the mood of reading similar fantasy.

I'm just starting the Malazan series. What am I in for?

>>20129453
Bakker would be a closer choice.

>>20129459
No it wouldn’t now fuck off already.

>>20129418
You know it to be true. You have only to accept it. The pain will then leave you.

>>20129453
>Actually expecting a serious reply
Just read the thread and you'll know you won't get an answer.

>>20129459
>having any expectations of casuals, tourists, or crossboarders
kek

>>20129402
Doubt it.

>>20129474
Both threads could be deleted before then to prevent it, that's true.

>>20129480
Are you actually in denial or something.

>>20129464
That wasn't a serious post either. They weren't looking for a serious reply. What a fool you've made of yourself.

>>20129482
Meds

>>20129496
In denial. Got it.

jolenta wanted to fuck

Janny confirmed for sandersony

>>20129511
Stop changing IP already.

If you fags had anything decent to read you wouldn't spend all day crying about spam.

>>20129500
Distributed Denial of Sanderson
DDoS

>>20129520
There isn't anything decent left. There are only the wails of the damned, such as yours.

>>20129529
Read the game I posted.

>>20129535
You know he won’t, stop even trying.

>>20129538
Then you read it.

>>20129549
Why? What’s the point if there’s not going to be a discussion about it in this thread, only spam.

>>20129549
I wrote it.

>>20129556
>What’s the point if there’s not going to be a discussion about it in this thread, only spam.
Sadly, the correct view to have now.

>>20129560
>not having everything filtered
lol

>>20129556
Because it's a high quality work of speculative fiction. Discussing it here isn't thread-related anyway since it's not a book.

>>20129564
Neither is the spam but that doesn’t stop people.

>>20129563
The last few threads gave me hope. People were discussing books, and the jannies were deleting the bakkerspam.

>>20129564
It's a book. Words mean nothing.

>>20129577
You know what I mean, the last time there was a discussion about it all the posts got deleted.

>>20129572
When you post about the deletions it enpowers the spammers.

>>20129579
There is glory in martyrdom.

>>20129520
Somebody recommended virtous sons in previous thread. Read until interlude chapter where they fough crows again. It is basically some philosophical ramblings with story and plot being secondy. Almost nothing is actually explained, there is some good dialogue here and there and funny remarks otherwise it is really bad unless one is interested in greek philosophy, again I am not into it so I don't know if actual philosophy in the novel is legit or pseud.

>>20129588
I highly doubt that if people would still post in this thread.

>>20129590
All philosophy is pseud.

>>20129520
The game is Full Metal Daemon Muramasa by the way since the title was not mentioned.

>>20129605
It won't matter since people here won't care, anon. You can stop trying now. It's pointless.

>>20129597
When it's propagandized, it most certainly is

>>20129583
What spammers? It’s just one, the bakkerfaggot.

>>20129628
There is another guy who reeeees everytime bakkerspammer shitposts

>>20129608

We're all spammers now.

>>20129639
>another guy who reeeees everytime bakkerspammer shitposts
Nah, that one is multiple people.

Tarnsman of Gor turned out to be not all the way awful, if you can stand a Gary Stu protag.

>>20129657
Read the mood of the thread, you fag.

The root of the problem is the Bakker spam.

>>20129583
>spammers
It's literally the bakkerfag.

>>20129668
I remember before it got really bad, and there was discussion of Bakker here and there, but it was all tolerable. At some point it got a lot worse and the threads have been mostly awful

>>20129686
To think, we had seven days of actual discussion after that. Seems wild. Shame he return with a vengeance.

>>20129703
At this point I'm not sure if he's a troll who just wants others to be upset, a genuine dumbass fan, or a false-flagger who really wants people to hate Bakker.

Talk about something else.

>>20129728
No

>>20129716
It's one fag with no life, who seethes whenever people start discussing books, which is why he starts spamming.

>>20129716
Whenever I make an effortpost in attempt to start a genuine discussion of TSA it gets deleted. Yes, the rumors are true, spammer IS a janny

>>20129738
I am not so sure. We had bakker spam before and it was mostly deleted or ignored, usually it never really got out of hand, it was contained. Now it seems we have bakker spammer and another seething person who is replying to every one of his spam posts. It just makes it worse. I wish fags just lurked before participating in the thread.

>>20127996
What about Hidden Tower?

>>20129806
>We had bakker spam before and it was mostly deleted or ignored
How new are you? The bakkerspam being deleted is a recent thing, and it was never ignored because the fag would self-reply to his own bullshit. Just taking a glimpse of the archives already proves that much.

>>20129806
>it never really got out of hand
You new to this general?

>>20129846
You're the problem.

>>20129859
No, it's not him. Stop trying to shift the blame.

>>20128595
I wonder how much of this is the translator's influence, this looks very well done and doesn't at all sound like the translation that I read

>>20129814
I've never read it
sell it to me

>>20129819
>>20129877
Why won’t he fuck off.

>>20129894
Because he's making /sffg/ his personal shitting ground.

I've nearly completed book of the new sun and I'm very impressed. Assuming that this is among the peak of what fantasy can offer, where do I go from here for quality? From what I've gathered, Bakker seems a good candidate but I'm not sure where to start

>>20129898
Designated

>>20129894
Same reason why you won't.

i haven't read a book in a while and i'm not sure i have the attention span anymore. thinking about picking up the malazan series to get back into reading. is it too much for me? should i start with something else?

>>20129936
I discuss books.

>>20129929
It's not funny.

>>20129941
>should I start with one of the longest and most convuluted fantasy series that exists
Yes, then give up and never return.

>>20129947
So many in denial.

>>20129999
This entire thread is in denial, considering it was a lost cause from the beginning.

>>20129957
I agree. It's a very serious hygienic concern.

>>20129925
Read Gene Wolfe's other books or Tolkien.

>>20130004
Lost cause? The /sffg/ shall rise again.

>>20130004
Et tu, anon?

>>20129806
>I wish fags just lurked before participating in the thread
If you don’t like you can just leave.

>>20130066
We'll make sure you don't like it.

>>20130066
Kek, I love it

>>20130097
Hard gay surpreme

>>20127762
The Wizard Knight and Latro in the Mist by Gene Wolfe. His short stories are beautiful too.

>>20130014
No.

>>20129453
It’s trash. Stop after the first book. This series is definitely not worth an entire ten books. Horrible waste of time.

>>20129510
I agree.

>>20130144
Sane as this thread. Sounds like a secret rec o me.

>>20129925
There is nothing that comes even remotely close to Gene Wolfe. The best you can do is to simply read everything written by him and then read it again. New Sun, Long Sun, Short Sun, Wizard Knight, Latro, Peace, etc. Many (if not most) of his short stories are absurdly good too. Even though I really enjoyed reading Bakker‘s Second Apocalypse series I would never compare him to Gene Wolfe and any of his works. It just doesn’t make sense.

>>2013014ll
You would.

>>20130162
you are onto something, anon ...but beware many eyes (spammers, bakkerfags, bakkerchads, jannies) are watching you now

>>20130167
Doesn't make sense is right.

>>20130180
Medusa

Best sffg thread ever

>go to the Dune section of AO3 for weird porn
>it’s all basic bitch Duncan/Paul shit

ffs

>>20130211
Why would you expect anything from something so completely dominated by women in every way?

>>20130209
No it isn’t, you spamming faggot.

>>20130228
Your posts make it even better.

bakker and sanderson=reddit

>>20130211
Bros I just watched the movie. It was shite. Would you recommend me the book?

>>20130245
No

How would you rank the dune novels? not including brian's fanfiction

>>20130250
Pretty shit.

God this thread... uh... it's just... oh fu---
*farts*
e-excuse me

>>20130218
I expected more Baron raping people honestly.

>>20130250
Dune > Chapterhouse > God Emperor = Children > Messiah > Heretics

>>20130248
Alright cheers.

>>20130262
this but replace dune with messiah

what am i in for?

>>20130274
Stop asking this already.

>>20130273
I meant switch

>>20130274
Why do you keep repeating this same question?

What are we in for?

>>20130280
Agenda

for what? i am in

>>20130288
>>20130300
neck yourselves

New thread
>>20130302
>>20130302
>>20130302

Use this one, it has the goodreads link

>>20127292

>>20130308
Why do you keep fucking up the good reads link.

>>20130308
Why’d you make a new thread when you could have used the other thread.

>>20130327
that is dead thread no one used

Another new thread
>>20130314
>>20130314

>>20130338
Fuck off, that one doesn't even say /sffg/

>>20130308
>>20130338
The links to good reads group is broken. Fuck off in trying to remove that.

>>20130340
there is no such rule that says a new sffg thread must have a /sffg/ in subject

>not using a completely blank op

>>20130362
It should have it so that you can easily find it by searching the catalogue.

>>20130372
It's a troll thread, anon. He doesn't care.

>>20130372
Why would you want more to find it? Those who already know know and those who don't only lurk.

>>20130350

>>20130384
That's how I normally locate it when I don't have the current threat watched. Sometimes I don't come here for a few days or a week or so.

>>20130372
search works without /sffg/ in the subject

>>20130407
Hmm, looks like it finds it because it's included in the archive link in the body of the post. Oh well, it should still have it I think.

>>20130308
The OP is quite literally changing his IP and copying and pasting post from the other thread.