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20125384 No.20125384 [Reply] [Original]

It is known that there is a biological basis to the mind, that is the brain.

I am not implying that there isn't a collective, universal consciousness whatsoever, though I can't help asking myself how can some religions see consciousness as something outside of the body.

Let me explain.
Say that there is a person who's born with mental disabilities or suffers from some kind of brain damage; since their consciousness depends on their brain's condition, it is undeniable that their mind is going to work differently from an average, healthy individual.
In case of behavior against their religion's rules, are their actions justifiable or not?

Say that a Christian has a brain tumor and commits a sin (e.g. murder); does that make him a sinner or not?

>> No.20125800

>>20125384
>I am not implying that there isn't a collective, universal consciousness
There is, and there isn't. You don't share dreams with other people for example, and that it's conciousness too.

>some religions see consciousness as something outside of the body.
Like? The only people who say that consciousness is something apart from the body are philosophers like Plato and Aristotle.

>Say that there is a person who's born with mental disabilities or suffers from some kind of brain damage; since their consciousness depends on their brain's condition, it is undeniable that their mind is going to work differently from an average, healthy individual.
How do you know what's like to be a person with mental disabilities when you aren’t one (?). You just see their behaviour, not what's like to be "that" person. You know what's like yo be "you".

>Say that a Christian has a brain tumor and commits a sin (e.g. murder); does that make him a sinner or not?
I ain't Christian but I think their theologians write a lot of shit about it.

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>>20125384
you awake through manifestation. the "self" is a natural formation. creating the immortal vessel is to be able to retain conciousness without the body.

>> No.20127473

>>20125384
Just what is consciousness, precisely? What distinguishes consciousness from, say, cognition or sensation and memory?