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If this sentence is false, then every sentence is false.

>> No.20112104

>>20112092
Wrong.

>> No.20112120

>>20112104
That's interesting, would you care to tell me a little bit more about that?

>> No.20112200
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>>20112092
*Blocks your path*

>> No.20112252

>>20112092
Which means the sentence is tautologically true.

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>>20112274
You should have been on /sci/ the other day slowpoke
>>>/sci/14301120
>If truth does not exist. There is only falsehood. But then the statement “All statements are false” is itself false. Hence there must exist at least one true statement.

>> No.20112311

>>20112288
>If truth does not exist. There is only falsehood. But then the statement “All statements are false” is itself false. Hence there must exist at least one true statement.
"All statements are false" does not imply that all meta-statements are false. Read Quine.

>> No.20112324

>>20112311
>"All statements are false" does not imply that all meta-statements are false.
Yeah it does. Meta-statements are a subset of statements.

>> No.20112326

sentences are only true if they are grounded in a system where they are complimentary, and value is determined by the relative importance to the central clause which the belief originates

>> No.20112333

>>20112252
This.
"If this sentence is false, then every sentence is false."
Is "true" or "valid", but as it is a hypothetical judgement, it actually is meaningless and does not provide anything in terms of knowledge.

>> No.20112334

>>20112311
Quine was born near me. I have one of his books but I got a headache after the tenth page

>> No.20112427

>>20112311
it does if the person saying it implies it so. That's how communication works
>Read Quine.
Unless he tells me how to get titties and beer, no thanks

>> No.20112438

>>20112092
The sentence is false, but that doesn't get you anywhere (why would it?)

>> No.20112462

>>20112092
I prefer not to think about this

>> No.20112484
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>>20112462
Zizek agrees

>> No.20112524

>>20112484
Shit you're right, I forgot the "would" part.

>> No.20112711

>>20112120
not the other guy, but it's simple to dismiss—the contingent clause of your claim doesn't logically follow from the premise. By way of analogy, consider a statement like 'if this dollar is counterfeit, then every dollar is counterfeit': there is no necessary connection between the dollar in question and all other dollars.
also blah blah Raymond Smullyan blah blah Kurt Godel's incompleteness theorem blah blah Rudy Rucker