/lit/ - Literature

any books where the male protagonist is DISLIKED by women? I found it way to difficult to self insert as any male character in Wheel of Time since even incel Mat has women simping for him, I need something different

>>20102516
So i started Shadow of the torturer. It couldn't capture me with first few chapters.

>>20102520
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Robert_Ervin_Howard#Other

>>20102521
A Song of Ice and Fire (Tyrion, Sam, Quentyn) and The First Law trilogy (Glokta) are the only ones that come to mind.

Any fantasy books with femdom kink stuff?

Lets settle this once and for all, Bakker or GRRM, who is the master of poo poo, pee pee, and cum?

>>20102580
I remember the first Sword of Truth book having a prolonged dominatrix torture cult scene. Not sure if that continues with the sequels.

>>20102583
GRRM on all counts

>>20101383
I read it when I was a teenager a long time ago, but I didn't find it particularly interesting. Doesn't really do anything special with its premise, or get anywhere at all.

>>20102583
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. When she closed her eyes at last, Dany did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again.
By far the most iconic line of dialogue

>>20102689
Is vulgarity supposed to be a shortcut to making your writing edgy and cool, or something?

>>20102742
it's a GRRMism, you need a high IQ to appreciate it

>>20102521
Mat is anything but an incel even right at the start. He gets more clam than Red Lobster.

Wheel of time is so bad lol

>>20102742
When did soccer moms infest 4chan?

>>20102516
Once I just tried ignoring the pop culture stuff this shit is so autistically fun.
What else hits the same spot? I've tried getting into all systems red but I dislike the first few pages so much, is it worth staying with it?

>>20102970
The Undying Mercenaries series by B.V Larson.

>>20102742
What's vulgar or edgy about it? How else would you describe someone shitting themselves to near death?
>The fair maiden did verily drink of foul poison'd waters and great purging hath overcome her feeble insides. Each stool she takenth was fouler than the one before, indeed increasing her thirst by magnitudes, maketh her drink even more of the cursed bacterial liquids! Circle of damnation!

>>20102689

>>20102580
Virility factor from Robert Merle

what are some books where human men breed non-human women?

>>20102521
to be fair, Wheel of Time is a setting in which men are the valuable sex and women are the expendable sex. It's impossible for a man to be a virgin in a world where women outnumber men by a considerable margin, especially when the men still go out to get killed in droves in war.

>>20103384
pretty much anything written by Philip Jose Farmer, unfortunately none of it is erotic, or even pleasant to read

>>20103384
why the FUCK does that pic arouse me so much

>>20102516
I'm compiling a list of mainstream fantasy series with rape in them.
>Sword of Truth
>Song of Ice and Fire
>The Second Apocalypse
>Malazan
>The Summer Tree (Fionavar Tapestry) [at least according to someone on Goodreads]
>Soldier of the Mist
Am I missing any obvious ones? Including allusions, overtones, happening off-screen, I'm not talking about graphic depictions only.

>>20103470
Soldier of the Mist is mainstream?

>>20102580
sword of truth
>>20102586
it does

>>20102742
It's just a description of someone vacationing in South America.

>>20103479
Maybe....

>>20103479
currently has 3287 ratings on goodreads so no not really

>>20103470
most non YA fantasy post 2000 has rape in it

>>20103470
>has soldier of the mist
>not botns
what

>>20103402
because you're straight?

>>20103470
Dragonlance Chronicles has attempted and completed rape in it, though handled off-screen, they explicitly use the word "rape" to describe what happened. The main character is even the product of human on elf rape.

>>20103386
>It's impossible for a man to be a virgin in a world where women outnumber men by a considerable margin
wait what, i dont remember this part

>>20103402
>bros i have femdom mommy fetish what the frick is wrong with me!! I'm totally not like 99% of horny guys on the internet who all like femdom

>>20102516
The Poppy War, The Poppy War #1 - R.F. Kuang (2018)

Once again I have chosen a limited edition cover because I feel that it's far more accurate to what a reader ought to expect from the book. I would describe this as grimdark, young adult, alternate universe, wish fulfillment, with superhumans that behave badly. The first half of the novel is about getting into a military school and her school life. The second half is special forces and war. At first I thought I'd be able tolerate its particular sort of worldbuilding, which I'd say could be charitably described as an inchoate mishmash. I was wrong. This book at times openly transposes Chinese history and mythological works while also mixing it with fantastical elements. It's just very strange to me how it's presented. I found it to be very heavy-handed and jarring. It also feels like a secondary world and Earth combined. Apparently this was also of great appeal to a large number though, judging by its nominations, awards, and how much it sold. I can understand how being ignorant could be beneficial to one's enjoyment of this, but I don't understand how being knowledgeable would be. That requires a mindset rather different than my own as far as I can tell.

Now for some unwarranted personal speculation. From a quick look at a few interviews and what's she written about it, Kuang wrote this mostly while she was a teenager and as a response to what she had been learning as a Chinese studies major, and in reaction to her family. I think it's clear that this book was a product of special circumstances and quite possibly could've only been written by her exactly when it was. I believe that's also the majority of its appeal. If nothing else it contains emotional resonance and untempered anger at injustice and unfairness. There's a certain appealing purity in naivete that doesn't consider context or restrain its outrage. It's what I expect from a highly intelligent teenager/young adult at a prestigious university deeply immersed in their studies writing a book that in some ways is a journal of their experience reconciling what they've recently learned of the world and their place in it. I wouldn't be surprised if Kuang felt very differently about this trilogy later in life. Not so much in a negative way as a different kind of appreciation.

Her next work, she isn't a fulltime novelist, will almost certainly be far less commercially successful, though better written, by which I mean more coherent and consistent. That's the hope anyway. Although I won't be continuing this series, though I did read summaries of the trilogy, I will give her future work outside of this setting a try.
Rating: 2/5

>>20103470
I guess you never saw the spreadsheet someone made of books to avoid because of that and other similar. It was posted in this thread at least a few times.

Any fantasy books about animalism/shamanism?

>>20103637
Probably because he made it up. There's nothing in the books about women outnumbering men.

>>20103749
>animalism

>>20103683
I'm super uninterested in reading a book a 20 year old wrote on a whim in like a month and not sure why you read it. Just read liu cixin if you want something chinese or that meme book that keeps being posted.

>>20103837
Do you know how many new and great fantasy books get published every single year? It's actually zero. So if you want to read in the genre, you read trash whether or not you respect the author. That's how genres work and survive. If they don't have enough appeal to carry mediocre writers, the genre will die.

What does SFFG think of Brianna Goux? Uncut gem? One time wonder? Amara's rose has a lot of potential me thinks

>>20103869
Who.

>>20103837
I read it because:
It's relatively popular and I wanted to see why it was acclaimed.
I'm currently actively reading more women.
I didn't look at the specific details about ages and etc before reading, though that wouldn't deter me.
This really deserves a "what I expected" and "what I got image", but effort.
Because whims are mysterious.
I have read Liu Cixin and posted about TBP. I didn't like that either.

>>20103864
so you chose a book with 100,000 ratings on goodreads? You didn't need to help carry that.

>>20103872
You need better bait.

>>20103904
That was a different anon and I don't really agree with their statements. I agree it doesn't "need" any further reading, but that's irrelevant to me.

>>20103907
I've literally never heard of that author.

>>20103927
Exactly, that's one of the reasons why it's bad bait.

>>20103928
>>20103927
Oh, I replied to the wrong post. Meant the one you replied to.

Why is Starship Troopers so good?

>>20103961
Because it affirms your beliefs.

>>20103965
actually I'm transgender

>>20103971
So what?

Just reread this again. I've lost count of how many times I've read it. I reread Count Zero recently as well, but I think I've only read Mona Lisa Overdrive the once so that's going to be the next thing I read.
I can't get into Waylander, it feels like everything is happening at 2x speed. It's like reading a highlight reel of shit that's happened in other Gemmell books I've read.

>>20104033
>I've lost count of how many times I've read it.
How unfortunate.

>>20103470
Black Company

>>20103683
>The first half of the novel is about getting into a military school and her
Stopped reading there

>>20104184
Working as intended then.

>>20104205
Simp

>>20104253
You've misunderstood.

>>20104033
>Gemmell
Rigante series is his best series but Druss is his best character imo.

>>20102516
Need good military sci fi recs.

>>20104381
Try Ukrainian Defence Ministry reports.

>>20102516
Howland Reed= Daario Naharis= Robert Strong=Quaithe=The dusky woman= The High Sparrow= The Three Eyed crow
Dubs confirm

Still baffles me that people care about Game of Thrones. Face it: the author abandoned you.

Still baffles me that people care about The Darkness That Comes Before. Face it: the author abandoned you.

>>20104484
>>20104426
Only one of these completed their series.

Will we ever find out where whores go?

>>20104287
Stormrider was great. The Moidart is my nigger.

>>20104510
It’s been years since I read them. I remember liking the first two books better but thinking the series ended perfectly.

>>20104492
Is the Sailor's Wife Tysha?

>>20104492
I'm pretty sure that was just Tywin being a prick and calling her a whore because he didnt like Tyrion. However if it was literal she could be in one of littlefingers brothels.
>>20104782
Which sailors wife?

Any recs for medieval/prehistoric fantasy?

>>20102521
stannis from asoiaf.

>>20104834
>The other whores said that the Sailor's Wife visited the Isle of the Gods on the days when her flower was in bloom, and knew all the gods who lived there, even the ones that Braavos had forgotten. They said she went to pray for her first husband, her true husband, who had been lost at sea when she was a girl no older than Lanna. "She thinks that if she finds the right god, maybe he will send the winds and blow her old love back to her," said one-eyed Yna, who had known her longest, "but I pray it never happens. Her love is dead, I could taste that in her blood. If he ever should come back to her, it will be a corpse."
My only assumption for this is the name Lanna for Lannister, yes this is a retarded reasoning by me. Also idk if Tyrion has grayscale and if that makes him technically "dead" inside

>>20102583
Bakker likes making gay sex jokes

Was Severian the Outsider? Did the Whorl leave 300 years before BoTNS or did notsilks magic take them back in time?

>>20104426
I believe there is a very slim chance that The Winds Of Winter is going to be released at some point in the next ten years. This is assuming Martin keeps on trucking despite the deep frying fat running through his veins and that he finally wakes up in cold sweat one night, being hit by the sudden realization that he's ruining his legacy and that he doesn't want that.

We'll never see A Dream Of Spring come to fruition though. That dream has died.

>>20104959
I think it was the Increate.

>>20105007
Gurm will never finish the series, he’s a hundred millionaire rolling in more money than he knows what to do with and has no children to pass that wealth on to so there’s no motivation to do any more work

>>20103683
Daniel Greene loves this book? Wtf are you giving it 2/5

>>20103749
If you're a 14-year-old gril, Chronicles of Ancient Darkness

>>20105109
Any possible intention I can think of for why'd you post this reflects unfavorably upon you.

>>20105061
>he’s a hundred millionaire rolling in more money than he knows what to do with and has no children to pass that wealth on to
What keeps him from buying a harem of teenage Ukrainian qts and impregnating them all? If they each take him for half his money he'll still have enough to live in luxury for the few years he has left and will die knowing there are lil' G's out there. Has he so internalized outcast nerddom?

>>20105155
Sociopath.

>>20105155
He’s gay, why do you think he has a wife but no children?

>>20105164
Sociopaths are generally low IQ, violent social outcasts. Gurm doesn’t fit that profile

>>20102558
Shit book and author

>>20105176
You're welcome.

>>20105210
Meds

>>20105214
Affirmation

>>20105228
I accept your defeat

>>20105236
Granted

>>20105167
I thought it was because he hasn't seen his fat pink mast since the 60s

>>20105007
I remember early in the year him saying there was a possibility it could be out by the end of the year. Of course, that year was 2015....

Bakker

Just found out GRRM is 5’6”, I lost the shred of respect I still had for him

>>20105061
>Gurm will never finish the series
I mean, that's what I said. A Dream Of Spring is supposed to be the final installment and even Martin himself is on the record that he hasn't written a single word for it and that he will only start working on it after he's finished Winds. IF he finishes Winds against the odds, he'll have pretty much run out of lifetime and won't be able to complete Dream even if he wanted to.

So we won't see Martin's take on the ending, no matter what. But it's at least possible that the sight of Dany shitting brown water won't be the last we ever saw of her.

So, looking for a military "out of time" series. Which one would you choose, SM Stirling's Nantucket series, John Birmingham's Axis of Time, or Taylor Anderson's Destroyermen?

>>20105289
don't worry, I got ya

>>20105294
Ranks of Bronze.

>>20105304
>WOMEN, AM I RIGHT SANSA?

Fantasy Poetry, Bakker's spawn

In her pussy her Bakker reigns supreme
All she can do is moan and scream
Slamming harder, here comes the cream
In the womb Bakker's seed flows so deep
Exhausted from the ruler's cock she goes to sleep

>>20105320
>>20099517

>>20105304
Why was this fag picked for finishing WoT again? Why hand it to a writer who couldn't be assed to emulate the style of the original author? Did Jordan have any say in who'd continue his work before his death? Or was it the sole decision of his greedy wife who figured the WoT finale would move more copies if she got a rising star on the YA horizon instead of some no-name ghostwriter?

>>20105339
he's mormon

>>20105359
I fail to see the connection.

>>20105333
This is a Bakker general.

>>20105339
It was entirely Harriet's call. She said it was because she liked the first Mistborn book. Personally I think it can best be explained that sanderson made a deal with the devil to attain fame and setting him up to leech off of WoT's fanbase was the devil's end of the deal.

>>20105363
Jordan was Mormon, his publisher was Mormon, Sanderson was Mormon

>>20105307
>Ranks of Bronze
I'll check that out too, but that makes the choice harder, lol

>>20105380
>Jordan was Mormon
Fuck off retard.

>>20105373
I thought Mistborn was pretty popular right out of the gate.

>>20105373
Its the Mormon lit machine, its a goonish machine that black mails respected authors into bankruptcy... or death, then they take over the market because there is no white guy that will fill the spot other than the Mormon supreme ruler.

I bought some PKD books and I'm going to immerse myself into his crazy universes. I hope I won't be disapointed.

>>20105393
It was. But not enough to carry Sanderson's career this far on his own. Also note: he was announced as Harriet's replacement writer before the first mistborn trilogy had even finished which almost certainly bumped up his sales. A Faustian deal is really the only rational explanation.

>>20105421
Apparently it was "she liked his books and he wrote a good eulogy for Jordan". Feels a bit weird, but hey.

>>20105399
Mormons are brutal, they are hard made and will never take no for an answer, this is why they dominate the market, even when the world is pozzed they find a way dominate with an extreme force of goon mastery.

I can't believe Brando Sando fucked Jordan's wife right on his grave to advance his career... these Mormons are stone cold, man...

>>20105425
>Feels a bit weird
Because he black mailed her and forced her to say this half baked reason.

One anon is doing this.
One anon.
Making /sffg/ his personal shitting grounds.
It's horrible. And he will always come back after every ban.

I find it interesting that some people desperately need a specific group of people to hate. Unfortunately for them it's become too costly to hate on a lot of different groups publicly.
Seems the anon in this thread has settled on Mormons, which isn't as costly.

>>20105440
I can't believe Americans just let them ravage the city.

>>20105452
Meds. Take them. Now.

>>20105452
>>20105460
Just report him. His post are either low-effort, off-topic or just spam.

>>20105440
I know he had to do her as part of the deal. Remember Mormons can have multiple lovers.

What am I in for?

I sm once again astkin you to read Karl Edward Wagner’s Kane stories.
>>20104846
A lot of Sword and Sorcery stuff feels prehistoric, specifically Robert E. Howard’s Conan. If you’re looking for a mix of the two, Kane has that as well.

>>20105524
holy shit

>The North=Scotland
>Westerlands=England
>Riverlands=Germany
>Reach=France
>Iron Islands=Scandinavia
>Vale=Switzerland
>Dorne=Spain
>Crownlands=Italy
>Stormlands=?????

>>20105705
Ok, but what is Braavos then?

>>20105452
There are at least 3 anons, possibly more

>>20105705
Stormlands couls be Netherlands
>>20105733
Constantinople or Venice

>>20105180
Have you read it?

>>20105797
There's no reason to do so. Its reputation precedes it.

>>20105774
I never considered the Netherlands, I thought it was more analogous to Bohemia but now that you bring up the Netherlands that’s probably what they’re based on

>>20105774
I think Florence and the Medici would be closer than Constantinople or Venice

>>20105882
>it’s THIS dago city not THAT dago city
Potato potato

>>20105797
Reading is for posers, real /sffg/ citizens shit on book without reading them.

>>20105359
Branderson is mormon in name only, his true religion is intersectional feminism aka wokeism, like most of his middle/upper middle class peers. Incidentally that's his connection to Harriet McDougal, their shared feminist creed.

>>20105882
I just meant a (((mercantile))) city. All the canals immediately make me think of Venice, but the fact that it's foreign/ on another continent leans toward Constantinople. Florence could have been the inspiration it definitely fits as well

>>20102516
There are no based protagonists in fantasy, it is either females or beta cucks. None of them have any control over their lives and all their actions are dictated by muh prophecy and tropes. You can not prove me wrong.

>>20105538
if you are new to sanderson, this would be the wrong book to start as the middle section drags on needlessly, try warbreaker instead

>>20106065
Cope, Branderson is a Trad Mormon, his books is based on Mormonism and is filled to the brim with Mormonism.

>>20106130
Supreme ruler of the Mormon goons.

>>20106090
>None of them have any control over their lives and all their actions are dictated by muh prophecy and tropes.
I don't see the problem.

Culture Series anon here from a few weeks back. Had other stuff to deal with but just marathoned The Player of Games. It was way better than Consider Phlebas, and exactly what I had been hoping for out of the series. I predicted the minor twist pretty much immediately when it could be figured out, but it didn't matter to the story and it was cool to see how it played out. Very fun book, vividly described and engaging as fuck. Excited to get to Use of Weapons. The Culture is fucking awesome and when their ship names pop up I always laugh

How do you discover good sci fi and fantasy that have been published in recent years?

The Hugos and the Nebula Awards have been completely discredited

Ultimate non-cuck deluxe supreme non-pozzed non-unbasd sublime.

>>20106494
There are many ways, but only way to know whether you'll enjoy it yourself is to read them yourself. Otherwise, you'll have to by what others have said about them and hope that their experience will be similar to yours.

>>20106494
However, if you mean literally just what's been published, there are various lists for that, assuming you mean traditionally published. Due to the immensity of self-published works, lists of those are always going to be entirely incomplete.

>>20106506
>by what others have said about them
If my fellow anons in the 4channer site said the book is Based, then I'm obliged to read that book and force myself to go through it so I have big Based points among my 4channer anons.

>>20106515
What a terrible method.

>>20106515
If they said the book is unbased then I should never read that book and burn it if I own the book or delete it if its on my based non-jeff Kob e reader.

>>20106522
>>20106515
read The Player of Games, it's based

>mfw I look into my pocket and the Claw of the Conciliator is there but I don't remember ever finding it and now I have to scour Urth until I find these red priestesses to return the gem to its rightful spot
BotNS hits different, bros
On Citidal now. Sword was magnificent from start to finish.

>>20106528
Thanks anon friend, I will now read The Player of Games.

What are some book series which are well written, have good characters, very immersive and with good world building
Reading asoiaf now, seems like malazan may be next on my list
wheel of time? discworld?

>>20106545
Having good characters is pozzed and actually unbased. Its better to read awful characters with non-immersive world.

>>20106545
Culture

>>20106577
Oh fuck dude, that's just the series I've been recently trying to remember but had forgotten the name of
Thanks it's been frustrating as fuck

>>20105538
I agree with >>20106111
I liked Warbreaker much more than Elantris.

>>20103749
The cub progression fantasy

>>20102970
Kingdom building web novels

>>20106534
Wolfe is up there with Tolkien in his ability to send you to other worlds.
>Sword was magnificent from start to finish
Seems to be a lot of people’s favorites, myself included.
>>20106545
Book of the New Sun

>>20103384
you should look into snekguy

Are there books where the magic demands equivalent exchanges or puts a heavy toll on the user? Like, a mage can cast fireball but he shits himself with fever for a week afterwards. It always irks me when magic is just a cheatcode that makes mages categorically better than other humans.

>>20106921
Who would be using magic in that case?

>>20106954
short blonde kids whose mother died

>>20106972
FMA isn't really relevant on a per usage basis.

>>20107017
chinese electric batmans who want to find their sister

Sci-fi may be pozzed, but at least its not dominated by mormon goons like fantasy.

>>20107128
Darker Than Black is certainly closer.

what's going on?

>>20105570
Any other recommendations for sword and sorcery books? Read through the del rey Conan collections last year and quite liked them, but I'm not very familiar with the genre beyond Conan. Will check out Kane

>>20107264
Imaro if you like heart pounding jungle action and stories about Black Conan punching the shit out of Voodoo wizards.

Why haven't you read it?

>>20107337
Why have you?

>>20102516
Just ordered Orian Shall Rise first edition for cheap.... should be good, lads.

>>20107337
Based

>>20107370
Come to chinkshit for the genocidal protagonists, stay for the self-help
>Fang Yuan looked at the street outside the alley and pointed at the passing crowd: “Take a look now, these people don’t want to inspect your true self and who Xia Lin truly is. When we were dancing and singing, they also did not want to know our names. They are only expressing their attitude, the true situation is not important to them. Ordinary people chase after the truth because they are usually angry and indignant about being made a fool of.”
>“So to them, we are not important at all, and to us, their attitude should similarly not be important.”
>Xia Lin took a deep breath: “Master Chu, thank you for comforting me, I truly can’t thank you enough…”
>“I have not finished speaking. Since the attitude of outsiders is not important, what is truly important in our lives?” Fang Yuan asked with a smile.
>Xia Lin was stunned for the third time: “Master, forgive my ignorance…”
>Fang Yuan pointed at Xia Lin and then pointed at himself: “It is us, ourselves. It is our truest feelings. Ask yourself, listen to the voice in the depths of your heart. What do you want to do, what kind of person you want to become, where do you want to go? You will obtain the answer in the depths of your heart.”
>“If you want to travel, then travel around the world. If you want to treat others well, then treat them properly. If you want to attempt flying, then collect money and resources to purchase and practice flying Gu worms.”
>Fang Yuan pointed at the alley then at the street: “If you want to remain in the alley, you can stay. If you want to walk into the street and enjoy the event with others, then walk out. Don’t mistreat your own feelings because of their attitude. If you mistreat yourself frequently, then you will end up with regrets, you will constantly wear a mask to act as another person, you will no longer be yourself.”

>>20107382
>"The highest point for a lifeform is to reach immortality, their greatest desire is immortality. What is the point of wealth, it is merely a hoarding addiction. What men and women, it is just primal instincts. What reputation, it is just bullshit people spew about you, carrying the stench of depravity."

>"Wealth, beauty, reputation, status, people who pursue all these are short-sighted. Back on Earth, there was no choice, as everyone was going to die eventually, thus they can only pursue these or life would be meaningless. But in this world, where primeval essence is rich, why would we not pursue immortality given the possibility?"

>"For the sake of immortality, wealth, beauty, reputation, status, I can make use of all of them, and I can also discard them as easily! For immortality, fear cannot stop me, I will charge forward relentlessly! For immortality, laziness will not stop me, I will never slack even for a moment! For immortality, pain cannot stop me, gods and demons cannot stop me, even heaven and earth cannot stop me!"

>>20107433
>your body feels like there are no bones with skin as delicate as jade
do chinks really?

Jannie trannies do your fucking job and ban chinkshit from sffg. This is not literature, it's a machine translated mongoloid serial. At this point we may as well start talking about manga, VNs, and comicbooks.

>>20107441
jade beauties have no need for bones

>>20107446
>machine translated
Speak for yourself anon, I read reverend insanity the way it was intended

>>20107382
>>20107428
>>20107433
Genuinely how do people read these? I get it's like absurdly direct translation but it just feels incredibly flat and lifeless.

>reading chinkshit

>Reading chinkshit

>>20107454
Structurally chinese and english are quite similar, there is nothing wrong with direct translation, I have read some non sff russian literature and it felt very similar yet no one ever bitches about real books or classics that have less than perfect translation

I recently read this, and enjoyed it. The story follows Hank, who is basically a semi-professional mediator between criminals on a dinky space station in the ass end of nowhere, a job he got because he is a mutant, and his particular mutations make him absurdly hard to kill by normal human standards. That is helpful when the negotiations go bad.
Mutants are fairly common in this setting, the galactic empire the protagonists are part of intentionally causes them, because they simply aren't the biggest kid on the block and the easiest way to clear out a settled species and steal their planets is good old fashioned biological warfare, ergo, they deliberately induce potentially beneficial mutations to make the population more resistant to biowarfare.
This is important in another sense, because mutants are classified based on their mutations, levels one through ten. Hank is a 4, where a 1 would be minor physical changes, and 10 is literally able to warp reality.

Things start going bad when the station chief changes Hank's classification to rank 10. Why? Because they get more government funding for higher level mutants, and "nobody reads those reports anyway". This draws the attention of aliens, which then draws the attention of the military.
And all of this is secondary to the actual plot of this book: The military is coming, and they are going to Audit us.
Most of this book is about a bunch of crooks attempting to turn their hive of scum and villainy into a perfect little Potemkin village, and I enjoyed it. 6/10.

>>20107520
I have a genuine question. Is there some specific thing that covers with "shirtless hero with half-naked girl clinging to his leg" are riffing on? I see it a lot and I'm not sure if it's just an old pulp trope or a specific thing.

>>20107454
>>20107441
>After a period of intimacy, Hu Mei Er took her leave.

Sex in RI. This is how sex should be portrayed in literature (if at all). Western coombrain authors take note.

>>20107536
>her cunt didn't become the world
shit writing

>>20107528
It's basically the Frank Frazetta pose, something he did very often for the Conan the Barbarian covers. Given how influential Conan was, and how influential Frazetta's art was, it became a pretty common way to compose a cover.

>>20107547
>"The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit."
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.
>"The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing"
>Men call me Darkstar and I am of the night.
>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.
B R A V O

>>20107551
I sort of figured it was Conan, I just wasn't sure if that was the originator.

>>20107552
>not posting the full set
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.
>Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.
>Ser Alliser Thorne walked from the room so stiffly it looked as though he had a dagger up his butt.
>The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing.
>"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."
>"Ten thousand of your children perished in my palm, Your Grace. Whilst you snored, I would lick your sons of my face and fingers one by one, al those pale sticky princes. You claimed your rights, my lord, but in the darkness I would eat your heirs."
>Tyrion reflected on the men who had been Hand before him, who had proved no match for his sister’s wiles. How could they be? Men like that... too honest to live, too noble to shit, Cersei devours such fools every morning when she breaks her fast.
>Her loins ached from the urgency of his love making. It was a good ache.
>It was pink and hard and when he sucked on it, her milk filled his mouth, mingling with the taste of rum, and he had never tasted anything so fine and sweet and good.
>The rain stopped and started again and stopped once more and started, but they had good cloaks to keep the water off.
>“Had there ever been a woman with nipples so large, so brown, or so responsive?"

>>20107520
Sounds mildly interesting, actually. I only glanced at the cover and would have missed the irony without your take.

>>20107552
>>20107556
Coooombrain

>>20107578
nigger

>>20107556
he truly has the soul of a poet

>>20107552
>"The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit."

Where do you download your free books? Libgen and zlibrary are dead in my country

>>20107672
> Libgen and zlibrary are dead

>>20107520
>Things start going bad when the station chief changes Hank's classification to rank 10. Why? Because they get more government funding for higher level mutants, and "nobody reads those reports anyway"
I actually feel tempted to pick this up, sounds hillariously relatable. It's always funny when an author clearly has witnessed the manyfold failings of government or corporate bureaucracy first-hand. Plus the cheesy cover art looks great, getting strong Duke Nukem vibes there.

After the recent events, people will say Sanderson rule supreme because of the recent kickstarter domination, but there is nothing supreme about Sandersong, unlike Bakker. Both rule but they are completely different in many ways. Bakker rule is sublime and eternal, Sanderson rule is crude and forceful. Bakker reigns in supreme majesty, Sanderson reigns flaming rage and misery.

When Bakker reign is unconquerable, it was supreme and eternal, Sanderson may dominate with crude force but he will never be sublime.

Wheel of Time? More like Wheel of Shit.

I just wish Bakker would create a lit machine, with us as employees, we will dominate and re conquer Bakker’s supremacy.

Red pill me on bakker

>>20107879
Philosopher And Writer. His style is grim and his world epic, only a based person will understand the creative power of Bakker.

>>20107879
Capitalize Bakker, you peasant

>>20107898
He is a newfag, he doesn't know who is the King of /sffg/

>Shadowthrone…uh…my worthy Lord of Shadow…is thinking. Yes! Thinking furiously! Such is the vastness of his genius that he can outwit even himself!
I love the schizo priest so much.
Where do the current lords of a "house" or warren go once ascendants replace them?
Is ascendency in itself a fight to determine who deserves the throne?

>>20107879
he's very creative

>>20107672
No, they aren't, you just don't know what you're doing. There are many other ways though. Filelockers, direct downloads, IRC, DC++, torrents, many more.

>>20103384
Tamer: King of Dinosaurs

>there are still youtube channels dedicated exclusively to talking about A Song of Ice and Fire and nothing else
Do these people know there are other fantasy books to read?

>>20107879
Canadian liberal soiboi with Trump derangement syndrome and failed philosophy PhD who somehow, against all odds, wrote one of the greatest fantasy series of all time, proving death of the author once and for all

>>20108303
Maybe they do. But normalfags don't. And normalfags are the primary audience for those youtubers. It's all about giving them what they want and monetizing the videos. The literary discussion is just a facade.

>>20107672
get protonvpn, you can use it for free. it's enough to dl books.

>>20108303
You forget that ASoIaF is not dead quite yet. It was too big of a popculture phenomenon and all the normalfags watched the show. Which means the potential audience for ASoIaF bandwagon podcasts is roughly a million times higher than for any other fantasy series you can think of, short of LotR. The HBO prequel series is slated for this year too, bringing ASoIaF back into public awareness. Who knows, maybe it'll somehow manage to redeem the brand in the eyes of the normalfags like the Mandalorian did for Star Wars.

That all said I doubt ASoIaF will remain culturally relevant after Martin's looming demise, since he'll leave behind a bungled legacy. New generations won't want to read an unfinished work and they won't want to watch a show infamous for its shit conclusion either. So whatever remains of the fanbase will go extinct sooner rather than later. Although I suppose we might have to wait and see how Martin's last will looks like. If some corporation inherits the IP, ASoIaF might actually shuffle forward as a zombie for years or decades to come.

>>20108475
his widow and publishers will have someone else finish the series, it's too big in sales and cultural capital to just let it go

>>20108483
I can only imagine Martin's editor wishes death upon him every day, so they can finally pilfer his notes and shit out the last two volumes before the reading public runs completely out of interest.

>>20108475
>>20108521
What I suspect will happen is this
>Martin dies
>Widow and publisher take his notes and drafts and release a 'Notes on ASOIAF' which just details his plans and writing process for the last two books, instead of bringing in another author to finish the job

anyone got a working libgen mirror? one i was using just shit the bed

>>20108531
The franchise is a massive gravy train with too many fans, another writer will 100% finish it.

>>20108531
I think it depends on the instructions in his testament and the contract with his publisher. Speaking of which, I wouldn't be surprised if Martin is in breach of contract for failing to deliver the product he promised, but his publisher won't sue him because they don't want to enter an adversarial relationship with him.

>>20108554
This. Won't anyone please think of the Funko pop sales?

>>20108543
? .rs works

>>20108616
thanks

Finished Fires of Heaven last night. Overall 3/5 in enjoyment, a slight dip from The Shadow Rising which I actually liked less than the first three books. Jordan keeps with his glacial pacing, making the story feel like a fantasy slice-of-life until the last couple of chapters when plot development finally happens. Nynaeve reaches new levels of insufferable in this book.

>mfw reading the circus subplot

I'm still decently engaged with Mat's and Rand's chapters (Perrin is okay, I guess) so I'll keep reading.

>>20107658
Write what you know.

Opinions?:i only found it on Amazon and it's kinda expensive. Is it worth it ?

>>20108708
5 is admittedly the slowest of the 4-5-6 era but if you think any of those books are slow then you probably won't make it through 7-10. Godspeed.

>>20108826
I know very little about WoT overall but I have heard there's a stretch of four books where basically nothing actually happens.

>>20108826
I don't actually mind the slow pacing that much as long as I'm reading about characters I like. It only really gets tiring when I'm reading 5-10 chapters in a row about white tower politics or Nynaeve and Ewgene doing something that feels at best tangentially related to the main story.

I've also heard about the slog and I think I can pace myself, but we'll see...

>>20108845
>>20108882
The slog boogeyman isn't that bad, really. Plenty happens in the first three of those books. It just isn't what readers wanted since Rand takes a bit of a backseat so Jordan could flesh out other characters a little more. The only real dud is the fourth of those books, book 10, in which literally nothing happens because it takes place partly concurrently to book 9. But if you're reading primarily for Rand (which you probably are, because who isn't?), then you will likely feel let down by those four books as a whole.

However, I contend that book 9 is fucking kino and that anyone who calls book 9 a slog can choke and die.

>>20108708
the elayne and egwene chapters are meant to be skim read. just read the first sentence of each paragraph at most

>>20102689
>dialog

>>20102742
It's about the danger of the situation, and also about the character.
Danny has gone from being a Queen atop a pyramid to lost in the wilderness, about to die due to dehydration from drinking bad water and getting the shits. Which is what happens to people lost in the wilderness, even a queen, if they don't know what they're doing.
It's a dangerous situation, so much so that she has to confront the dothraki horde as her only chance of survival.

>>20108531
>implying he's written any notes or plans

>>20109066
He gave his rough outline to Dumb 'n' Dumber years ago. Whoever ends up being tasked with finishing the series really only needs to connect the dots. We're already at the point where all the characters dicking around in Essos are easily on the verge of heading back west. Just follow the story's own inertia, spice it up with some of the best fan theories, and done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep009ll9BgM

holy shit

>>20109228
>here's my sarcastically generic opinion as I spam the view with meme pictures
Sseth and cr1tikal ruined a generation of men

>>20105705
The North is Yorkshire you thick yank.

>>20104033
Gibson should have write more about the "alien matrix" or the "alien AI" he describes at the end of Neuromance and Mona Lisa Overdrive.

You ever read a book and realise there was one fairly out-there word the author really liked using and it takes you out of it? I find it keeps happening to me and my brain just goes "Oh another one" and it kills my reading pace every time.

Any good stuff set in babylon or a babylon-type setting that isn't Conan?

>>20109446
Mental illness is tragic.

>>20109267
the first sseth videos were cool though, this is just another instance where popularity ruins thing

like what happened with fantasy and sci fi

>>20109446
Oh absolutely. Nabokov has two: 'nacreous' and 'diaphanous'.

Faulkner loved the word 'moiling'.

For fantasy authors a common one is describing a character with 'a shock of hair'. I have literally never heard someone use this description ever in real life but I've seen it in fantasy books dozens of times. Wtf is a shock of hair? Like a mane?

>>20109730
Isn't a "shock of hair" a specific coloured section of hair or some such? I was just bringing it up because I'm noticing the current book I'm reading had a portion where the author clearly just really liked the word "nonplussed".

>>20107512
Yes they do. I've seen people waste hours arguing over which translation of Dostoyevsky is the best. Happens all the time, and not just on 4chan either

>>20106090
conan

>>20109741
Nonplussed is a terrible word. It means the opposite of what it sounds like it means.

I do get what you're saying, though. Reoccurrence of a conspicuously uncommon word definitely boots me out of the immersion.

>>20108304
so he's hack. makes sense

>>20104510
Literally all of his books are great except Drenai.
Rigante has to be the best of them though.

Serious question: What exactly is the appeal of The Wheel of Time? What are its main strengths as a series?

>>20104426
Did he? He seems more interested in film writing.
And lets be real, he was a mediocre author but the tv series is phenomenal.

>>20109835
bait

>>20109785
Nonplussed SOUNDS like it should mean "not bothered" but it's more like "stunned", which just feels like one of those English nightmare things like inflammable.

Post your top five GRRM short stories. Nothing related to Ice and Fire allowed. Mine would be:
The Ice Dragon
The Second Kind of Loneliness
Meathouse Men
Sandkings
A Song for Lya

>>20109831
Epic fantasy with a strong focus on good characters and developing them. Great worldbuilding and great take on the chosen one plot. Also it takes forever to read which some people really like.

>>20109852
English nightmares?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti

While the sandersois and bakkercucks were fighting one another, Martinchads swept in and took over the thread
Kneel

Winter was coming and the steadfast warriors at the holdfast were forced to fast, though those who were fast were first to breakfast.

I really should probably focus on what I'd likely most enjoy rather than random stuff.

>>20109891
he's the glue that holds the fantasy fandom together

>>20108815
its really edgy and crap, it reads like GRRM except at the end God and angels come down and kill them to take them to heaven like the last Narnia novel

>>20109938
The hotglue that the fantasy fandom continually tries to clean off their LEGO Geonosis Arena playsets you mean

>>20109870
I hate English sometimes.

>>20109938
>fandom
Die

>>20109965
late

>>20109891
I have to admit that Martin provided quite an interesting setting with interesting characters and world building for Elden Ring. If only he didn't get side tracked on these side projects and focused on his own damned books...

>>20110007
You aren't entitled to anything.

>>20110007
almost everything he works on is good, he's just fat and indolent

For those of who like Jim Butcher's Dresden Files, will you try reading his son's debut novel?

https://www.tor.com/2022/03/23/cover-reveal-dead-mans-hand-by-james-j-butcher/

>>20109379
Agreed.

>>20110110
Fuck off, James

>>20110110
Why does it look like it's him on the cover of his own book?

>>20110110
Might give it a try at least. Synopsis doesn't sell me TOO much, but urban fantasy crime thriller could be neat.

Bakker rules supreme? SanderSons? Martinchads?
Please, spare me your silly remarks.
Patrick stays winning and undefeated.
Simple as.

>>20110133
Rothfuss is cringe incarnate

>>20110110
Probably being sold on name recognition alone. Didn't even bother to hide his identity like Stephen King's son.

>>20110110
I had no idea Butcher had kids, let alone adult kids.

Supremacy is slowly fading away, we need to haver long form discussions about King Bakker.

>>20110190
The age of bakker is dead, and I have killed it

>>20110080
He's entitled to his opinion.

>>20110110
clings too close to old pappy, I'd be much more interested if he did something like scifi or a more general fantasy kinda series

>>20110246
It is at least a different approach to urban fantasy. Dresden stuff has thriller elements, but it never quite was full crime thriller.

>>20110080
Gurm has broken the implicit contract between writer and reader and deserves to be relentlessly shat on till the end of his days for it.

>>20110110
How pozzed is it?

>>20110316
Depends on your pozzed detector radar, some has a deluxe radar that detects both pozzedness and basedness, and if its balanced then its acceptable, if the pozzed reigns supreme then burn the book.

Since your pozzed radar is non-deluxe you have to ask the expert anons here, which makes you look like a non-supreme anon with a weak ass radar that can't detect shit, really sad.

>>20110080
I'm entitled to not support fatfuck projects and deride him for being a spineless pervert.

>>20109866
>good characters
lol
All the female characters are trash, most of them some flavor of arrogant naggy cunt.
All the male characters on the good side are submissive cuckolds.

>>20110343
Scat isn't perverted, its natural

I like samwell and samwise

>>20102570
This is a great picture. Especially the angel AI. That concept will fit nicely into my world.

>>20110488
That picture is like if you made a knockoff version of a cheap chinese ripoff of Orions Arm.
Arbitrary bullshit like
>god power of 3000000 human brains
>just screams in all possible frequencies
>forced to retreat to mountaisn by more advanced societies
Etc... Like, lolwhat? Just pulling meaningless crap out of an ass.
This picture looks like the work of a gender studies major who fails to comprehend Orions Arm.

>>20110332
It is pozzed or it is not pozzed. Simple as.

>>20110598
Sometimes its so pozzed its becomes based, or its two in one, the yin and yang, the based and pozzed.

Why did janny delete the Martin post? Is it because he’s a sandersoi or a bakkercuck?

>>20110764
Because Bakker is the ruler supreme, not Fartin.

What do I need to read before this comes out? I'm guessing it's enough to read the first book considering it's a prequel in his early days of wandering with Moonglum apparently. I'm pretty sure Moonglum is and eternal champion he meets in the second book?

>>20110795
>women on cover
POZZED

>>20110795
This is the misery of the MOORCOCK reader

>>20110823
That's clearly Elric

>>20110823
Elric is a emo femboy, retard.

>>20110875
His body type and face says he is a woman, if you want to know what a man looks like, check the thread below.

>>20110859
>>20110859
>>20110859

>>20110885
>4 posts
>1 IP
reminder that there is only one bakkershitposter and that he frequently replies to himself ITT

>>20110907
Don’t reply to him and report his posts.

>>20110885
it really doesn't, you're just dumb

>>20110907
He is a shill payed by the mormon machine to soil the image of Bakker.

Red pill me on this Bakker

>>20110926
He is unironically the best fantasy writer in modernity, he is also a philosopher and he writes epic fantasy with a dark feeling to it, if you are tired of pozzed books read Bakker.

>>20110915
starting to believe this too

>>20110938
Its not even a theory, everyone knows mormon goons post on this thread, they try their best to ruin Bakker's image.

Its fucking simple, they go in, they drive your name in the mud, then they launch a kickstarter knowing that there is no other option to the masses other than subbing to it.

Sanderson is making big because there is no one else, because all the other were either blackmailed, with a ruined image, or killed.

>>20110965
I mean, can anyone name a single big name fantasy author who has published anything in the last 5 years other than Sanderson?

>>20110976
Exactly, if there is anyone who gets close to making it like GRRM he just stops writing because of the lit machine blackmails. noitice how Sanderson was furious when he wrote like two pages for Elden Ring? because Marin found a way to work around the lit machine contract, that said he can't write a book, but Martin is smart and he wrote a game, which made Sanderson furious and angry.

>>20110988
meds

>>20110976
Depends on how you define "big name".

The book I'm currently reading has mormons.

>>20110907
>reminder that there is only one bakkershitposter and that he frequently replies to himself ITT
Just report his post and don't respond to him.

>>20110976
Joe Abercrombie is still publishing books annually, Steven Erickson is still publishing works in the Malazan world.

And that's just /sffg/ favorites. The author in pic related is quite popular right now. I wasn't terribly impressed but it's pretty popular.

>>20110965
Literally what the FUCK are you talking about you actual schizoid

There have been 24 deleted posts in this thread.

>>20111061
is it the expanse

>>20111072
Good. They should remove the rest from the shitposter/

>>20111073
No, it's a post-apocalyptic novel that I'll post about in the thread after the next thread. I already have another book ready to post for the next thread. I'll try reading The Expanse again sometime probably though since the TV series has ended. It'll be quite some time. Maybe not even this year.

>>20111072
Nice to see jannies do their jobs. Wish they ban thaw shitposter already.

>>20103705
No, or else I would've saved it. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

>>20111086
>post-apocalyptic novel
Dies the Fire?

>>20111097
It was originally from Reddit, though I don't remember which subreddit. I could probably find it with a few search terms in the archive, probably aren't that many spreadsheets overall, but I don't care enough.

>>20111103
No, but I probably should give Stirling another chance sometime. You'll find out soon enough or anyone who cares enough can look at my GR profile as to what it says I'm currently reading. I'm quite enjoying it so far. Might even make it the book for next month. I'll have to think it over after I finish it. So goes being the only one who can set that.

>>20111115
It was more a shot in the dark since I'm currently reading Stirling

>>20111105
>>20111097
It only took a few seconds actually.
>>/lit/thread/S13394421#p13398947

>>20111119
Oh, ok.

>>20111067
>Joe Abercrombie
Middling
>Steven Erickson
Middling
>The author in pic related
Middling industry plant Jewess

>>20111124
There are several fantasy books that have more ratings in the last 5 years than Stormlight #4.

>>20111131
Why are you even arguing with him? He's nothing more than a shitposter who derails the thread/

>>20111131
Don't waste your time on him he's just being retarded to generate replies

>>20111139
>retarded to generate replies
He replies to himself.

>>20110907
Are you just finding out?

>>20111115
>Stirling another chance sometime
I'm surprise you didn't like him. Why?

>>20111198
I don't remember. It's probably been 15-20 years since I last tried reading anything from him.

>>20111214
Ah, that's a shame. Hope your second rereading of him goes well.

>>20111072
>There have been 24 deleted posts in this thread.
You going to update this soon?

>>20111123
>>20111123
>only took a few seconds
Amazing, I shouldve known something like this existed. so rigorous!

>>20111231
32

>>20111252
Nice. Good to see the Jannies doing their jobs. Hopefully, we won't have to deal with the shitter for three days.

It could be worse. I know a general on a different board where a crazed OP has been making the thread and having it being deleted and probably banned as well every day for months. He had been making it for years prior to that, though it also existed several years before that as well.

>>20111260
/g/ or /tg/?

>>20111264
/h/

>>20111266
Name?

>>20111289
Before opening this site you should have adblock, noscript, or something anyway to disable stuff or else it'll be a problem.

https://archived.moe/_/search/boards/h.de.rp.talk/subject/sadpanda/

>>20111260
We’ve been like this for over a year now. Things are changing, but that spamming faggot has no life.

>>20111260
If a guy has been making a thread for years then stubbornly continuing to do so isn't crazy, it's sensible.
What's crazy is whatever faggot janny decided to make a problem of it after years of regular posting.

>>20111358
There's a greater context, same as when there were competing /sffg/ threads.

>>20111370
>same as when there were competing /sffg/ threads.
It was just shitposters bring shitposters though.

>>20111377
Either way, it's not something I'm interested in arguing, so that's all I have to say on the matter.

Should a new thread be made on page 6 or 7?

>>20111426
Whatever the spirit of the thread works on your heart is the correct choice.

>>20111438
The only reason I’m asking is to avoid someone making two threads or having a shitter make a fake thread.

New thread
>>20111444

>>20106851

>>20107264
I’d recommend Kull if you haven’t read him as well. Besides that, I found the Red Sonja books very comfy even if they don’t exactly reach the level of Howard in terms of prose.