/lit/ - Literature

books are the antithesis of masculinity. Join a boxing gym to get a taste of warrior culture and git gud at a skill instead. And this transformation will take at least a year, don't quit after a few months.

>>20102412
Everytime the same bullshit answer

>>20102394
>books on "not giving a fuck"

Why can't you practice that right now? Is there something about the concept you find hard to grasp that requires a treatise to narrow that knowledge gap for you?

>>20102394
books by david gemmell are the penultimate reference to masculinity.
indomitability, capability and exertion. sacrifice, redemption, suffering and deep rest etc

>>20102394
Start with the Greeks

>>20102435
ever considered that it’s because it’s true?

>>20102710
You have never been in a boxing gym if you think it's true. You have a niggerified idea of what a man is

Unironically the Bible
>Inb4 Le Jewish myths
More often than not, the Jews are a collective antagonist against God and the prophets in the Old Testament.

>>20102394
masculinity is just, like, a social construct bro. just b urself

>>20102741
he probably hasn't but that wasn't his point, you should do something physical (sports) as well as read. greeks are a good start, maybe try Somoza Athenian Murders - it's a very readable PM philosophical/crime novel - if you dont like Aristotle

>>20102779
>books are the antithesis of masculinity
>boxing will give you a taste of warrior culture
That was his point, but since OP is a massive underage fag that doesn't read, he should do what that anon said

>>20102394
The idea that /pol/ is closest to “escaping the cave” is hilarious when that board is riddled with nothing but glowing psyops

>>20102394
Read or watch Fight Club and then watch this video relating Fight Club to Friedrich Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpxHFNvlUmU&ab_channel=Antioptic and then read Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche and then read his other books.

I grew up without a father and doing this made me go from a shy beta twink to developing a strong inner confidence. Obviously don't just read but apply what you read and cultivate masculine characteristics. These books gave me the motivation to develop said characteristics, though.

Anyone read this before? I see it on Twitter sometimes

>>20102887
^

>>20102704
If Gemmell is the penultimate, who is the ultimate? Why read the penultimate instead of the ultimate?

>>20102394
Read Yukio Mishima, he was a faggot who killed himself, I think you can pick up a lot of good advice from him.

>>20102891
idunno, maybe way of the superior man by david deida or models by mark manson
they may be more relevant in a world that isnt fantasy and driven by death.
but thank you for making me look stupid it was fun

>>20102394
Read St. Augustine's City of God.
Read Chivalric Romances.
Read A Knight's Own Book of Chivalry.

You won't get around proper diet and regular physical exercise.

>>20102394
>Books on how to become more manly
the bib-
>...and not giving a fuck
alcoholism

http://www.angel.net/~nic/askitiki.html

>>20102394
>Books on how to become more manly and not giving a fuck?
Read Evola. His masculine ideal is based.

>>20102394
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=MMA+gyms+near+me

>>20102394
>liking women
Big mistake, OP. Until you learn that women are scum and kill all positive emotions about them you are not a man, this is what it takes in the 21st century.
Also since you're for certain still in high school you should get into at least one fight.

>>20102706
Should i fuck with Greeks?

>>20103149
>Read Chivalric Romances.
>Read A Knight's Own Book of Chivalry.
Sound so interesting. Can you tell us shortly what is it about?

>>20102394
>showing affection = pathetic/incel/loser

Listen to Wagner Nibelungen Ring and read Homer.

>>20102394
>>20102435
No matter how many books you read you're never going to get better at fighting or more confident in social situations. A martial arts gym will expose you to physical altercations in a controlled environment as well as allowing you to engage in healthy masculine competition. Instead, you seem like you want to sit on your ass and fantasise about masculinity without actually living it. Well, don't be surprised when you don't see any results.

Someone said it better once, but there comes a time in a young man’s life when he leaves his home and adopts an older man as a sort of pseudo-father figure. This man is more honest and unforgiving than his actual father and gives him another perspective on what being a man is. There’s a multitude of books which provide a surrogate experience of this.

>>20103450
The Greeks did this..

>>20103421
>Can you tell us shortly what is it about?
Exactly what it suggests.

start boxing or something

>>20103450
I never found a man who would be willing to do this. Why would any man care about a kid who's not his blood?

>>20102890
Yes, I found it pretty bad. Mostly platitudes and screeching about nazis

I don't care about masculinity or competition or success. I was always meek and non confrontational and I don't feel like trying to "change" my nature in my mid twenties. If things get too difficult I'll just kill myself, no biggie

>>20102435

>>20103651
>no biggie
Spending eternity in hellfire isn't exactly fun, anon.

>>20103450
Are you trying to justify pederasty?

>>20103624
Surrogate doesn't literally mean adopt. Basically a role model. For instance, my dad didn't really prepare me for the world, but after joining the military I've had guys who've called me out on my shit and corrected my somewhat spoiled and immature attitude. Of course, as a student of the Greeks, they have exclusive buthole rights to you while this process is in place. It's just human nature to try and seek validation from those you try to emulate though. If you see someone who is a few years older than you, in a place in life you wish to be at, it only makes sense you latch onto them and try to copy what they did, especially when your young.

>>20102394
Read the Ancients. Lift. Train MMA. Eat whole foods. Sleep good.

>>20102741
>>20102779
But you're wrong, I have been in a boxing gym, and I've been in a kickboxing gym and work as security right now. Before that I worked as a welder for five years and I've traveled across half of Europe for work (all of this is lauded as traditionally masculine type of work). I don't know what being a man means to you OP but for me it was always about doing things and not reading about them. I read a lot right now because I'm bored at work and I ain't got nothing to prove except start a family to be a "complete man".
However, 10 minutes of workout per day will bring you closer to your nature as a "man" than reading 10 hours a day will. It's simply like that.

You want the real answer: biographies of criminal lords.
Even better if its an auto biography where you can grasp how the mind of a mafia or cartel member works. You should have that mindset, minus the killings and beheadings.

>>20103726
Don't believe in that bullshit

>>20103838
>Of course, as a student of the Greeks, they have exclusive buthole rights to you while this process is in place.
hol the fuck up. You actually get fucked in the military?

>>20103838
>in a place in life you wish to be at
What if there is no place in life I wish to be at

>>20102394
How to Be a Bawse by Singh.

>>20103450
This is how I became a man. While away from home much older guy took my under his wing and taught me how to do cocaine, pick up girls, make friends, and a lot of other things.
It really convinced me of the inherent value of homosocial relationships, and as a result all the mediocre bitch boys in my hometown have been calling me a faggot ever since. I try not to let it get to me, they've never had the life changing experience of a much older man taking a deep interest in your sex life like I have before, but it's important to realize that there's a difference between being masculine and putting on a show a out it, and that most people (men and women) are shallow hylics who only comprehend the showman ship of faking masculinity (ie, working in trades, driving a truck, getting a blond girlfriend and complaining about her, etc.)
Aspire to be an aristocrat of the soul OP. It sounds like you're just concerned about not getting into fights, so go beat someone up. That's what I did. Study various systems of honour codes, pashtunwali and gangster rap and the like. Humans are stupid animals and honour codes directly reflect how we are hardwired. You also need to built a reputation for yourself, and it's been said that it's better to be feared than loved, so next time someone insults your honour smash a brick into their face and make sure everybody finds out about it

>>20103918
>What if there is no place in life I wish to be at
That guy just said his superiors had "exclusive buthole rights" to him, and that's what you find questionable?

>>20103926
Yeah bro go to prison because some hobo insulted you
God this board is fucking stupid

>>20103934
I automatically filter out stupid shit from the posts I read to only focus on the parts I want clarified or am interested in.

>>20103942
That's not how it works. Here we have a dude who let himself be fucked in the ass by his "role models" try and give us advice. His argument is fucking gone.
Whether there is some specific place you want to be in the future or not, I'm damned sure it's not getting fucked in the ass.

>>20103963
Yes but my question was not related to the rest of this anon's experience.

>>20103963
Real knowledge is either stolen or bought. I guess he went with the worst option and paid with his ass lmao

>>20103651
Pathetic

>>20103990
And?

>>20103975
kek

>>20103926
Doesnt get more based than this desu.

>>20103935
Life is risky.

>>20103926
You know I’m a chud myself but wtf is this?

find a masculine man and suck his cock to completion as often as he’ll let you when you eat a man’s semen you absorb some of his essence this is the real reason the christers steer people away from homogayism it’s because they want to keep you weak also essence absorption works even better through the ass

>>20103895
Any examples? Biographies written by criminal lords themselves seems unlikely, since if they're not uneducated they're demonically narcissistic and are likely uncapable of putting forward an honest account.

>>20103866
I've been thinking of going into welding, mostly because it seems like it would be a trade that pairs well with traveling. Would you recommend it? For reference I'm like 29

>>20102412
I would have agreed with you many years ago, but it's boxing and anything that involves heavy impact to the skull is just plain stupid.
Real masculinity comes from taking life into one's own hands, and in this case, I would say self-sufficiency / self-reliant skills are the most masculine. You know, stuff like fishing, farming, hunting, construction, or whatever.

>>20104193
>it's boxing and anything
boxing and anything*
The problem is that constant heavy impact to the skull does have accumulative adverse effects on the brain, and it could lead to stuff like tau protein deposits.
I am not saying to ban combat sports. I am just saying there are different ways to be masculine.

>>20104142
>and are likely uncapable of putting forward an honest account

https://www.amazon.com.br/dp/B004N636AS/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

>>20104206
"Jon’s father was a Sicilian-born Mafia soldier, who made Jon witness a grisly murder at an early age. After his father was deported, Jon turned to a life of crime, being pushed around from schools to juvenile detentions to reform schools. His first sexual experience was raping a young girl whose father considered Jon like a son. Stupidly naive of the man, of course, as Jon never hid his violent, antisocial ways. Though Jon did have an astonishing ability to charm people despite his wicked nature.

He became more entrenched in a criminal lifestyle, interrupted only by a violent four-year stint in Vietnam, which only made Jon more bloodthirsty. After the war he joined the mafia, first running small-time scores for them, then climbing up the ladder bringing in big bucks. Eventually, he became a major player in the night club scene, the owner of various big-named clubs like Salvation, where famous celebrities would turn up. Jon would often lace their drinks with LSD for laughs. Once, Jon spiked Ed Sullivan’s drink, driving the variety-show host to a mini-nervous breakdown after fondling a prostitute’s naked breasts while tripping out. Jon’s old-school mustachioed Mafia bosses were not pleased."

>>20104161
If you do I'd recommend tig welding as it's the most versatile. You can weld everything with it and tig welders are the white collars among blue collars in the trade most of the time, it opens up options for both indoor factory line work and outdoor terrain work.
For me it means access to wherever there's an oil refinery, paper mill, any sort of factory being built from scratch, etc.
I'm 27 and had an earlier start but I would recommend it. You can git gud in a year or two if you have any knack for it which you will know when you start.

>>20102394
Read Sun and Steel then proceed to lift. Repeat

>>20104206
Seems interesting, I stand by my points but am hopeful to be wrong since such stories would be kino. I'll check it out

>>20104236
How old would you say is too old to become a welder?

>>20104193
If the gym forces you into anything but light sparring and gets their fighters/trainees knocked out find another one. Heavy hitting is for bags and competition. I agree with the rest.

>>20104275
I've worked with people who are well into their sixties. As long as you can learn you can give it a try.

>>20102412
I don't disagree necessarily, but one should be careful of the gym they choose. If you go to the inner city and join one of those african american filled gyms, they will fuck with you, and on top of having to pay money to take classes you'll need to fend off this fuckery.

>>20103390
Based book, even though hardly related to the topic)

>>20102394
Manliness is not about being a tough, chivalrous himbo. It's about accountability, risk management and stoicism.

>>20104276
Check out the biopic Jago: A Life Underwater when you have time.

>>20103914
It's called a joke, but no I've never witnessed sodomy in the Navy other than those who come in and are already gay, which is mostly the chicks. Since we got guys and girls there really isn't a need, you just get what's called a "boat-boo", whose just the girl you fuck on deployment.
>>20103934
Idk man, either you're really content or really depressed. If it makes you feel better, later on I realized the things I wanted out of life weren't reflected in any of my superiors and they just sort of became my peers after I realized that. Life is weird and you just kind of have to figure out what you want to do before really making progress as a man.

>>20103914
Also, just to really dissuade anyone here from making stupid choices, the military (I'm American, so I'm speaking U.S . military) is not a bastion for military adventurism and camaraderie, it is just a shitty job like any other. Even if you get to tote guns and blow shit up, that is like 2% of your life and the rest is just tedium and pointless trainings. Most of the people I work with are larping trad caths who I'm sure browse /pol/ but have all been made bitter by their inability to get a girlfriend even after signing away their life, or at best married the first foreign chick who threw themselves at them their first time out of the country. There are communities within the military that are actually cool, but you got to be really in shape and have, have, have, to be a jingoistic idiot who 100% agrees with American military doctrine. If you still really want to give up on life and just kill people because you have literally nothing going on for you, the French Foreign Legion is the only chance you'll ever have of living living that shitty romanticized soilder life you see in media, but even then they mostly take criminals.

tl;dr none of you kids join the military, it's all a sham and it won't give you purpose as a man

>>20102394
Bump.

>>20102394
cool pic

>>20102394
Work Out, Bulk, and Lift weights; Get Buff.

As for Books: Conan The Barbarian and anything else by Robert E Howard, The Count Of Monte Cristo, The Memoirs of Casanova, The Prince, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, The Art of War, Captain Blood.

>>20103905
Doesn't matter. It's still real.

>>20107140
Your cultish fear mongering doesn't work on me

>>20107553
You can't escape reality, fren. It won't work. Accept Christ in your life and truly start living instead of contemplating suicide when faced with the possibility of struggle. This life is short but hell is forever.

>>20107581
Your posts are on the same level as some homeless schizo telling me to repent. It's just noise to me, you're deep in delusion

>>20107587
You're the one contemplating suicide, fren. I'm not impressed being called mentally ill by someone suicidal. You're on /lit/ so maybe do some actual reading. I'd recommend C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity for starters.

>>20107595
I'm not, just keeping it as an option in case. Also fuck off with the laughably self-unaware condescension, go jerk yourself off in your containment thread

>>20102394
reading is not masculine activity

>>20104259
>just become a narcissist bro
peak masculinity

>>20107602
Do some reading, fren. You'll greatly benefit from it. Your option isn't really so much an option but rather a pretty safe way to eternally condemn yourself. And your vulgar use of language does te more about you than it does me. Stop consuming pornography, stop masturbating. Start reading, start working out, start eating well. Doing all this will significantly raise your testosterone levels. A great hurdle you'll have to get over too, are your daddy issues. Once you've solved or at least acknowledged them, you'll have a much easier time accepting the lord.

>>20107616
Don't care, fuck off faggot

>>20107613
this guy doesn't lift

>>20107618
Haven't you described yourself as lacking in masculinity earlier? Isn't that what this whole conversation is about? Do you think someone like you calling someone else a faggot has any weight beyond that of self-loathing?

>>20107628
There is no conversation, just you being an obnoxious self-righteous little cunt like all christians are. Seethe harder about it

>>20107632
Wouldn't being the one considering self-murder in order to escape a difficult situation an option make you the self-righteous one?

>>20107640
Still less self-righteous than the retard that's been passive-aggressively seething for half an hour because I don't buy into his shitty jewish cult

>>20107646
I'm doing fine, fren. Your words don't hurt me, they only hurt yourself. Are you one of those femboy wignats by any chance?

>>20107649
>now projecting his latent homosexuality
kek, keep the cope going, we both know you're boiling in rage

Just don't care

>I worry abou...
BZZT wrong, stop worrying

>Her friends... incel...
BZZZT you're caring too much

>Books on... not giving a fuck
BZZZZT three strikes, you're out!


Anyway, I believe you're looking for Seneca's moral epistles

>>20107652
I was referencing both your self-proclaimed effeminacy as well as your conflation of Christianity with judaism. While it's true that effeminacy in men and homosexuality are very closely related, you're the one who actually brought homosexuality into this and yet you accuse me of projection. Curious to say the least.

>>20107662
Now you're getting boring. Be more entertaining or piss off, dumbfuck

>>20107668
At least you concede that I'm more entertaining than you. You've been boring me since your very first post. You're not special, you're not smart, you aren't even that edgy. Still tried to help you, fren, but you don't really seem receptive.

>>20107678
You didn't try to help (didn't ask for help by the way, retard), you jerked yourself off by trying to convert someone you assumed would be an easy prey to your disgusting cult. I might be a piece of shit but at least I'll never be as much of an utter waste of a human being as you, faggot

>>20107685
>but at least I'll never be as much of an utter waste of a human being as you, faggot
According to what standard exactly?

>there are really lads itt who are disregarding lifting
You fellas need to cope. Lift weights. It's fun and cathartic when you start to get the hang of it.

>>20107689
The "obnoxious faggot scale" standard which you set a new record for

>>20107692
Sadly, that doesn't mean anything.

>>20107691
I did that for nearly a year and hated every second of it.

>>20107695
Yawn

>>20107656
This pepe is right once again.

>>20107701
Your brain overheating?

>>20107703
Isn't this basically nihilism

>>20107705
Insults don't work on me

>>20107710
If you stopped pretending they didn't, would you have to kill yourself?

>>20107718
>he thinks his incoherent seething is actually affecting me
lol keep going

>>20107698
A satisfying activity isn't necessarily a pleasurable one, though it does become enjoyable after a certain level of competency is reached. Still, that isn't the main goal: it's about challenging yourself and rising to that challenge. So many things in this society right now are indeterminate and frustrating, whereas with lifting you see immediate, calculable benefits to efforts rendered. It's a nice psychological counterweight to the shifting sands of modernity, in addiction to the obvious physical gains.

You should try to get back into lifting. Just have fun with it at first, and build the habit of showing up for it. Then get back into some programming.

>>20102394

>what book do I read to learn to swim

You are autistic and you cannot escape that.

>>20107724
Nah, fren. You're digging your own grave and from where I'm at I can't do much to stop you. Maybe someone else stumbles upon this exchange and finds some value there but I'm done with you.

>>20107735
That's right faggot, take your retarded garbage and fuck off.

>>20107735
>>20107738
>it's another thread with two bored dweebs (You) farming each other
nu-chan is awesome

>>20107743
He started it, I never asked him to start shilling his dumb cult

>>20102394
Yawn.
Forget about this girl you like. Live with the pain. Take a break from women.

>>20107745
>He started it
You sound like a literal child.

>>20107769
>4channel is serious business

>>20107776
Here is one last (You) for the road. Maybe go and do something else if you're this bored, because you're doing little else apart form lobotomized Pavlovian dopamine chasing right now.

>>20107785
Don't really feel like doing something else

>>20102435
>Do not assume that he who seeks to comfort you now, lives untroubled among the simple and quiet words that sometimes do you good. His life may also have much sadness and difficulty, that remains far beyond yours. Were it otherwise, he would never have been able to find these words. - Rainer maria Rilke

Fuck you
And maybe Letters to a Young Poet by Rilke

>>20102394
The fastest way for you to become a man is to kill your own father. Alternatively you can just wait for his natural death but that might take longer. That's literally all there is to masculinity.

>>20104099
Some schitzo is going to go get aids because of this post

>>20104294
>If you go to the inner city and join one of those african american filled gyms, they will fuck with you, and on top of having to pay money to take classes you'll need to fend off this fuckery.
Good. It builds character.

Masculinity is a derivative of a much deeper notion, which is evil, masculinity was born from evil, from the animal savage instinct, if you wish to be strong, courageous, rational and unflinching, u must become like a bear or a wolf. To an animal this is its inherent nature, but to a human it is "evil". U must learn a way to shut down your empathy and compassion, this is how you become masculine, because when you punch, you'll have no hesitation or mercy for the enemy.

You must take the shadow within you and put it on the surface and draw power from satan/dark side. But careful cause if you draw power from it, it also drains your soul, and you become less and less of who you are now

>>20107883
Shitposting is a derivative of a much deeper notion, which is evil, shitposting was born from evil, from the animal savage instinct, if you wish to be retarded, idiotic, demagogic and autistic, u must become like a frog. To an animal this is its inherent nature, but to a human it is "evil". U must learn a way to shut down your empathy and compassion, this is how you become a shitposter, because when you shitpost, you'll have no hesitation or mercy for the quality of the board.

You must take the shitter within you and put it on the surface and draw power from Pepe/dark side. But careful cause if you draw power from it, it also drains your soul, and you become less and less of who you are now

>>20107905
hahahahaha

>>20107905
The real way to be masculine is to rob and kill people like the niggers do, why do you think they have such big dicks and white women love to jump on them?
You think the nigger had to read the Dahai Llama's teachings to learn how to rob and kill, that's from the savage animal instinct bestowed to them by birth through Satan.

>>20107834
I hope it's the 420 IQ anon then

>>20107613
>book about man describing his desire for aesthetics and physical strength to be a better man and not just a typewriter warrior
>narcissistic
Ok faggot go read some Jane Austen.

Vazha Pshavela poetry

Lift, grow to respect yourself and ignore the what randos think of you. Liking some girl doesn't make you lesser and engaging in meaningless "physical altercations" doesn't make you better.
Maybe setting your goals outside of reaching some form of "masculinity" which I don't even know what it stands for in this day and age will help you. Strive for generally virtuous behavior and independency.

>>20107706
There's a fine line between nihilism and nirvana, do not teeter too close to the abyss.

those who climb the mountain of truth have further to fall

>>20103641
So you didn't actually read it then

>>20102890
Robert Moore is based. He's a Jungian, but brings other perspectuves to his work as well. Would recommend. However it might be more useful to go ahead and acquaint yourself with Jung's thoughts (archetypes, what are they?) first.

Read the ancients and eat well. Getting into a fight is absolutely essential also. I'm glad I went to a public school since it made me realise liberalism is gay and bullshit before I even knew what it was.

>>20103651
>>20107793
t. eternal cuck

>>20102435
>>20102394
Challenge yourself. If you're afraid of heights climb a tree and stay up there til you're cool as a cucumber. Learn a skill, read a nonfiction book on a topic you know nothing about try to make people laugh, and yes maybe do skme martial arts or weightlifting, just keep doing shit to build confidence. The essence of masculinity is competence. Superiority. Thats why confidence is so sexy, because you're signalling those traits to the world

>>20104161
Welding is for grugs. If youre smart then go into a repair/maintenance trade instead of a construction one

>>20102394
Pic related is only 150 pages. It will carpwt bomb you with great knowledge about true masculinity. Another book that is relevant is Models by Mark Mason.

>>20102890
I am reading the 'updated for the 21st century' version that is only 150 pages. Its amazing.

>>20102394
>Books on how to become more manly and not giving a fuck?

No book will ever help you. None. You can spend thousands of dollars and hours reading shit OR you could dig deep into your soul, determine what YOU want and what YOU believe, and take consistent action toward fulfilment. Luckily I figured this out at 29, having spent my 20s wasting my time with philosophers, self-help gurus, and internet marketers.

>>20110819
>Luckily I figured this out at 29
>Luckily

>>20102412
No they aren't. The pursuit of knowledge, and competency in any realm is masculine. Studying philosophy, finances, whatever can all be done in books very well.

>>20102412
Plato could crush your skull with one hand. What do you think about that?

>>20103651
something is so based about this comment but i cant exactly put my finger on it. i think its how the last sentance stands on the opposition of everything before it in its assertiveness and tone. it turns a pathetic suicide theorisation into a sort of revolutionary suicide. buddhist monks who set them selves on fire in a blaze of glory and sacrifice are seen as incredible and this kinda mimicks that in some way

also reminds me of the chinese lying flat movement. whilst not directly challenging the system they simply refuse to uphold it through exhertion and simply resort to the bear minimum.

>>20110313
>Models by Mark Mason.
tl;dr on this?

>>20109954
Yeah I did. He says nothing of value that Jung doesn't say better, and he occasionally whines about Nazis and survivalists.

>>20110017
t. improooover feeling threatened by the slackerCHAD

>>20112520
Notes on Models

Dont be needy, be comfortable in who you are, rough edgs n all

Make yourself vulnerable, that means tell the bad jokes, be genuine even if you step on toes. If you do something wrong apologize. If they reject you shrug it off and move on. All of these signal high status.

Find out what the intentions are behind the things you are saying. Why do you say them. What is it that you want. What are your intentions. Be as authentic as possible.

What you actually are saying doesnt matter, your intentions behind your words are what matters

How attractive you are is based on your lack of neediness, your non neediness is based on how vulnerable you are able to make yourself, and how vulnerable you are able to make yourself is based on how honest you are to yourself and others

Establish strict boundaries because you value your own time and happiness more than attention from women

Dont trample over other peoples boundaries

Learn to say no to people, especially women

Have opinions on what you like and dont like, what youll tolerate and wont tolerate, be painfully honest with yourself, then be painfully honest with everyone around you

In order to establish strong boundaries you have to be aware of your own desires and emotions

You have to seek your own truth first before you can share it with others

Its absolutely crucial to define your truths and values. These are the basis for your boundaries

Your job isnt to attract every woman, your job is to learn to screen for women with high potential to be attracted to who you really are

When you express your truth to a neutral woman you will polarize her. She will either become receptive to you or make herself unreceptive. Either way, this is a good thing.

When you express your truth and you communicate more investment into them they will also be not attracted to you and become therefor unreceptive

If you express your truth and demonstrate that you are non needy and also frictionless for her (same interests and values) then she will become very receptive

Being polarizing to women is more important than being pleasant to them

If you get rejected or succeed you have won in both cases since you were satisfying your curiosity and found out if she is compatible or not

Instead of thinking "oh i hope she wont reject me" think "i hope i will find out if shes right for me"

If youre afraid to ask a woman out then you are more invested in her opinion of you than you are invested in yourself. If your afraid to ask a woman to come home with you its because you are afraid of the sexual reality that you want to sleep with her. Youre more invested in her not rejecting you than you are in aligning yourself with your desires. All of this makes you unattractive

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>>20112781
People tend to conform to what we expect of them. Changing your beliefs about women will change the type of women you attract. >self fulfilling prophecy/enabling: our shitty behaviour encourages people around us to adopt shitty behaviour

We attract who we are

What are the stories you tell yourself in moments when you decide not to follow up on calling a girl or ask a girl out or approach a girl. Humans resist change, what story do you tell yourself to justify keeping things the same

What are the stories you tell yourself to justify your internal resistance. What are the stories you could tell yourself instead to minimize your resistance to change

If you dont know your stories you will not be able to change your behavior

You must constantly fight this urge to believe your own bullshit stories, you must constantly fight against the urge to give in to your resistance

Choosing to let general observations be responsible for your actions is the defenition of being overinvested in other and being needy

Stereotypes can be useful to manage large chunks of information and to orient us more efficiently but often they are being used as nothing more than excuses, ways for us to avoid the blame and resonsibility for not being satisfied with our results. These excuses hurt us and shut us off from opportunities.

If we're blaming others we're not learning and if we're not learning, we're not improving

Blame is another form of neediness, its prioritizing others over yourself

Taking responsibility is the best way, then its about sacrifice and not about neediness > its not all women are sluts and thats why i'm alone, then its my fault and a question of my willingness to sacrifice the extra effort or not to find a woman thats not a hoe

Taking responsibility empowers, it puts the ball in my court and then i am the only person that determens my success in life. It puts you in much healthier reality

Challenge yourself to find a good and beautiful thing in everyone, its there and its your job to find it not their job to show you

Non neediness is not being fearless, it is not letting your fear hinder or define you. Non neediness is feeling the fear but deciding something else is more important


Approaching is not about entertaining her its about being non needy and expressing genuine interest in her

Make more statements, do cold reading, throw wild guesses, its much more fun and interesting. Speaking in statements will make her ask you questions, displaying her interest in you, now you control.the interaction

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These notes do not cover the entire book, because I stopped extracting them after I started to hang out with this 10/10 amazingly talented yoga chick, that even gave me the keys to her place when she went home for christmas after about two weeks of knowing me. We hadnt even banged at the time. So yeah, the book worked so well it had pic related distract me so hard I couldnt even finish my notes on it. Now go and make white babies.

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>>20107834
AIDS is the manliest of diseases

>>20102435
He's not wrong. If anything, OP needs a buck that gives him this message. Which I guess is important to drive the point home and integrate it into one's own conviction. This incidentally answers >>20102700's point. It's not hard to grasp and hard to grasp at the same time. You can hold a conviction and not understand why.

Historically much of impressing 'masculinity' onto a youth was done through initiation. There was stages of pain, fear and disillusionment that men went through which made them strong, cold and competent (as well as bound them into a honest alliance with other men.) An example would be being abandoned in the woods, beaten etc. We have very little of this coordinated initiation and so we have very little men. Its not hopeless. You can assimilate some of these virtues by voluntarily putting yourself into these high emotional states.

Put yourself through pain of all sorts. Feel the fear of death and lose yourself. Walk to the outskirts of the world (physically and intellectually). Go into the dark, into the underworld and face the cold, harsh reality your socialized mind and world obfuscates. Also remember it is not the quantity of experiences sometimes, sometimes its the quality or the height of emotional arousal that will push you over the edge. This is to be a warrior. To be a priest is slightly different but the qualities of the priest are in abundance today so it's not worth going into here.

>>20114711
>To be a priest is slightly different but the qualities of the priest are in abundance today so it's not worth going into here.
Tell me about priest

>>20103414
No, they have been replaced since Antiquity.

>>20103651
Puer aeternus faggot, ask your doc for trt it will literally turn your life around.

>>20102394
Get money, get jacked, get a wife and kid, unplug your internet.

iron john

>>20111974
I believe Plato would consider me based and we would decide to break your effeminate bookworm spine instead while discussing if my welds are close to the platonic ideal of a weld

>>20116623
kek seethe harder improoover larper

>>20103726
Imagine actually buying into this shit. Seriously, what kind of retardation/childhood brainwashing does it take? Even as a dumb kid I already knew it was bullshit from start to finish lmao

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