/lit/ - Literature

>>20075060
Look into the similarities between Hermes and Jesus Christ. The idea of a divine messenger. Dovetails well with the consideration of revelation as knowledge.

>>20075060
No, the reasons early Christians were considered atheists is that Romans were willing to accept Jesus into their pantheon, but the Christians wanted exclusivity and refused to worship any other Gods.
Besides that Christianity could be considered a syncretism between Judaism and Hellenism (and some other elements).

>>20075136
>No, the reasons early Christians were considered atheists
This is bullshit. No one genuinely thought this. It's the sort of bs opinion you hear on the news. People say certain things to rabble rouse and demonize. People said Quakers were atheists. Christians have called non-Christians godless even though they have their own set of gods.

>>20075197
>This is bullshit. No one genuinely thought this
Bro, the first mention of the word "atheist" ever used refers to Christians. Julian constantly calls Christians atheists in his letters.

Sol Invictus was the transitional god, if that's what you mean.

>>20075197
You lack historical awareness. This is actually what Romans believed. They considered Christians atheists because they refused to participate in Roman religious practices. To the Romans, faith was not a question of whether you believed in some abstract concept, but whether or not you participated in tradition. Actions over words.

>>20075203
Yeah, and Julian was a bit of a retard. Romans hundreds of years before him did not have a problem with Jews, for the most part. Jews and Christians believe in mostly the same God. Julian was a politician who massacred Christians. I'm pretty sure he'll calm them atheists if it gets a few retarded pagans on his side, just like CNN calling Trump anti-Muslim for his travel ban, even though Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Indonesia (massive Muslim populations) were not included and Venezuela and North Korea were included.

>>20075236
>brick of schizoposting
Fuck off

>Julian was a bit of a retard
No, (You) are. You wish you knew 10% of what Julian did.

>Romans hundreds of years before him did not have a problem with Jews
Antisemitism was born in the Roman empire. They were only tolerated for political reasons.

>Julian was a politician who massacred Christians
No, he didn't "massacre" anyone, and even if he did, that was some fifty years before Christians turned paganism into a belief punishable by death.

>schizowords schizowords CNN
Faggot.

>>20075216
Smart post. To Greeks (and to some extent earlier Romans) the functions of the universe and how society should orchestrate because of that was philosophy. The way wind and land relates to each other in logos in some way, like rulers and peasants relate to each other in some way - more logos. Greco-Roman philosophy is an equivalent to modernish religion, in that the church or God determines the behavior universe and how society works.
Religion to Romans was putting on the robes and slaughtering chickens or whatever and chanting in glades. It might have been more jolly fun and socializing than serious piety -- not too dissimilar from Sunday service (sans sacrifices).
>And Man Created God, A History of the World at the Time of Jesus

>>20075333
There was definitely an element of piety to it though, although I would reckon that yes it was much less somber than what constitutes religious activity in Christianity. See for example the importance of various sacrifices to secure military victory. It had to be done exactly as prescribed or handed down, down to the minutiae.

>>20075495
There's always been skeptics and doubters of the gods, for many thousands of years. Even if the general didn't believe in sacrifices, some of the soldiers would, and it would effect morale.
>The head explosion redeemed the movie. Nothing gets you amped up like a good head explosion

>>20075236
>suddenly Trump
Why are you like this?

>>20075524
Yes, but it's safe to assume that although yes there were skeptics, the majority, at least until the final stages of the Roman empire, believed in the sacrifices. I suggest reading Dumezil and Eliade, they have both written about ancient Roman beliefs and religious practices.

>>20075236
Nigger

>>20075060

1. Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

2. Jesus was Romaical in his martialistic ethos; through him, the best qualities of Romanity eventually culminated, and were perfected, in Catholicism.

>>20076526
>Jesus was Romaical in his martialistic ethos
Romans were based and Jesus Christ was a faggot. Explain that.

>>20075136
i heared something like this in a youtube video, you fucking pseud
now stop pretending that you know what you're talking about
and go back >>>/plebbit/

>>20075236
>Romans hundreds of years before him did not have a problem with Jews
The Jews never liked the Romans, ever. About 30 years after the death of Jesus Christ, they rebelled over taxes and placing statues of the emperor inside the synagogues, and eventually the Romans kicked their shit in, destroyed the Temple, sent everyone who wasn't killed packing, and renamed the Judaea as Syria Paelestina after the Jews' Old Testament enemies, the Philistines, as a "fuck you" to everyone from there.

As a side note, as "illegitimate" as Israel is (or at least claimed to be), Palestine never existed as a country, bouncing in between empires (Byzantine, Muslim caliphates and one-off kingdoms, Ottoman) before landing in the hands of the British Empire, which owned the land prior to 1948.

Anyone who sincerely argues in favor of the pederast Greek/Roman "faiths" is a anti-intellectual larper.

>>20077496
(You)