/lit/ - Literature

What the fuck does BNW have to do with Dune? Are you just saying they're both science fiction, and you thought Dune was better?

I personally disagree with the implication that BNW is science fiction in the sense that Dune is. But I won't really say any more, having not read Dune.

Dune is perhaps more entertaining, but does not have the social commentary of BNW. So you could say they have their own merits.

who told you Dune was better than BNW? why'd you assume that?

Both are shit anyway

>>2007279
>Dune
>Brave New World
>mfw I read both of them because of Iron Maiden

>>2007314

I suppose I can't argue that, I do think that BNW has more real-world applicability (no aliens and such) than Dune. At the same time, I felt that Dune was still more philosophically charged than BNW, both overtly and on deeper levels.

>>2007297

They are both science fiction, and since Dune is one of my favorite novels, I could not help but constantly compare BNW to it. My apologies if I did not make this clear.

>1984: god tier

>BNW: Shit what is this garbage tier

>>2007324

Well, BNW has been praised as a classic in many circles, and cited as one of the best English novels of all time. Dune received far less acclaim than this, for reasons yet unknown.

>>2007327

>mfw I don't listen to Iron Maiden

>>2007336

BNW is fucking prole feed.

>>2007336
Dune was published as mass market science fiction, while Brave New World was published and marketed as literary science fiction by an author who was already popular with the literati and the literary establishment.

It's the same reason Vonnegut is praised more than Herbert or Asimov or Ted Sturgeon.

Nobody should hate on Brave New World, because odds are that's exactly what our future will turn into.

Interesting that many are saying 1984 is better, not because I disagree, but because our teacher doesn't have us reading that one until later in the year.

Saving the best for last?

>>2007344
>play vidya all day e'rry day
>I'm already there

>>2007348

I read 1984 first and fucking loved it.

I then read Brave New World and fucking hated it, it's shitty literature.


But the fact is, BNW is the realistic scenario...so much of what is going on in our world is in the book, and 1984 is a little more out there. Oh well.

Like 1984, BNW is important for its vision of dystopia. Both books are below par as fiction.

Both are very different views of a dystopia. 1984 was influenced by Orwell's view on communism, I think BNW was influenced by the industrial boom in America (circa Rolling Twenties) but don't quote me on that.

Basically, it comes down to personal taste and what you personally consider to be a worse dystopia - absolute control via the Party or mindless hedonism via soma, etc.

That being said, I prefer 1984.

>OP starts out Dune V. BNW

>Topic so stupid /lit/ just goes back to 1984 V BNW

Anyway, I read BNW first. I can see why you would say 1984 is better, but I preferred BNW simply because the issues it portrayed feel more contemporary. Of course you should read both; they're both good.

Dune is a comic for adults and I mean that in the best possible way. Brave has come true in many ways but is not a very enjoyable read imo. tho it is a book every one "should" read ,if only because it is our reality now.

>>2007990
We don't live in a BNW style Utopia at all. I don't enjoy doing what I do. I don't get no strings sex. I can't just quit the system when i feel like it.

yeah, when I read BNW I felt very similar.

What happened is literary "canon" has been ignoring most science fiction so we get left with outdated and molding garbage which could probably be replaced.

Also, english teachers love having the BNW/1984 dichotomy because it's simple.

Does BNW have some good ideas? yes. Are they hopelessly outdated at this point? Yes, we already know the answer and need more sophisticated questions

>>2007338
>BNW and 1984 are fucking prole feed
Fix'd for ya.

>>2007279
OP, nothing is better than Dune except every other book out there.

2/10.

1 for trying hard
1 for picking the right board