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20059924 No.20059924[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is this true? Are rappers the greatest writers of all time?

>> No.20059928

Jannies have been pretty good the last couple days. Remember to report OP for off topic so it goes to the top of the queue.

>> No.20059931

>>20059924
Some of them are. Picrel is actually pretty good but he's got a big pseud streak which makes it hard to take him seriously

>> No.20059940

>>20059924
Something tells me that this thread has been mad in order to bait racists into making fun of POC culture and POC individuals. Proceed in this thread with caution.

>> No.20059950

>>20059940
One, I do not need bait or an excuse to be racist. I am racist all the time. Two, I never proceed with caution when being racist. Whatever is the opposite of caution, when I'm being racist, I proceed with that.

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>>20059950
>One, I do not need bait or an excuse to be racist. I am racist all the time. Two, I never proceed with caution when being racist. Whatever is the opposite of caution, when I'm being racist, I proceed with that.

>> No.20059967

I think there should be two Internets. Below 135 IQ Internet, and Above 135 IQ Internet. This kind of bullshit is dragging everyone down and needs to be addressed.

>> No.20059977

>>20059950
>Whatever is the opposite of caution,
wild abandon; this is the /lit/ board son, at least make an effort

>> No.20059978

Rap is music, and the qualities that make rapping good musically often take away from its quality as poetry. The kind of rhyming and alliteration you see in rap which are necessary to make spoken words musical, make it terrible to read.

>> No.20059985

>>20059978
>Rap is music
Is there a consensus on this now?

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>>20059950
FUCKING KEYED

>> No.20060129

>>20059978
This is true, but it's really just as simple as poetry being the highest level of literature and arguably all art, which is going to exceed Lil Nigga From Tha Block if he tries to approximate it on a hot beat. So that's not what they're doing, they're doing their own thing, which is fine. But people shouldn't be confused and think it's more than it is.

>> No.20060174
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>>20059950
Cavalier racism
Very based

>> No.20060202

>>20059978
I almost exclusively listen to rap. Rap has musical parts, obviously, but it's more like poetry set to a beat. So it's /lit/, not /mu/.

>> No.20060205

im the lyrical miracle all up in the ethereal
dropping bars like the clerical
miss me with that boreal
fuckin on your bitch like cold cereal
dodging STDs mothafucka im antibacterial
crafting material out of the venereal

>> No.20060262

>>20059940
>Something tells me that this thread has been mad in order to bait racists into making fun of POC culture and POC individuals. Proceed in this thread with caution.
Let's get this straight...
>Caucasian - European Descent people are 6.5% of the global population
>"POC" are by definition 93.5% of the global population and are comprised of racial groups which individually outnumber Caucasian - European Descent people, i.e., Black - African Descent people are 14% of the global population
>Caucasian - European Descent people genetically exhibit far more colors than non-Caucasian - European Descent people
Every single thing you said and implied is bullshit and you are a cunt with zero integrity. Now shut your cocksucker and keep it that way, faggot.

>> No.20060264

>>20060205
>>20060129
>>20059978
>>20059950
>>20059931
>>20059967
What white people don't understand about Rap is that it's essentially closed off to non-rap fans. Wordplay, rhyme schemes and flow are basically foreign to non-rap fans and that's the main criteria use to judge rap. What it seems like non-rap fans do is judge rap via it's literary aesthetics which is retarded because all songwriting is shit on paper.

If you think rap is easy or requires no talent, why don't you write 16 bars filled with wordplay in multisyllabic rhyme scheme to prove it?

>> No.20060268

>>20060264
And I'd rather not talk about it, just do that shit
Got these bitches sayin', "Yeah, he do that shit"
Got these bitches sayin', "Yeah, he do that shit," uh
Got these niggas sayin', "Yeah, he do that shit," ooh, uh
Suckin' on my dick like she new to this, yeah, ooh
Blowin' through the check, yeah, we new to this
I'd rather not talk about it, just do that shit
I'd rather not talk about it, just do that shit (Beep)
I'd rather not talk about it, just do that shit (What?)
Got them bitches sayin', "Yeah, he do that shit," ooh, ooh
Suckin' on my dick like she new to this, uh, what?
Blowin' through the check, yeah, I'm new to this, uh, what?
Runnin' shit back like a frisbee, bitch, uh, uh
Bring that shit back like a frisbee, bitch, uh

>> No.20060277

>>20060264
>multisyllabic rhyme schemes
C'mon now

>> No.20060291

>this is considered good writing

Do rap fans never grow out of being 15?

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>>20059950
>One, I do not need bait or an excuse to be racist. I am racist all the time. Two, I never proceed with caution when being racist. Whatever is the opposite of caution, when I'm being racist, I proceed with that.

>> No.20060327

>>20060264
>If you think rap is easy or requires no talent, why don't you write 16 bars filled with wordplay in multisyllabic rhyme scheme to prove it?
I never said it was easy. Just that it can be good music, but that it is bad poetry. The style of rhyming and the wordplay are obnoxious when taken out of its musical context.

>> No.20060338

Got my balls licked
By a Zooey Deschanel look-alike cocaine addict

>> No.20060350

>>20060291
IQ determines people's potentials and interests.

>> No.20060352

bladee is the modern wordsworth

>> No.20060449

>>20060264
>Wordplay, rhyme schemes and flow are basically foreign to non-rap fans
Is this what you actually believe? How did you find ghis board?

>> No.20060466

>>20060264
Buddy Chaucer and Shakespeare basically invented wordplay in English, are you three?

>> No.20060484

>>20060466
You know nothing about wordplay, you couldn't even list three examples if a gun was pointed to your head. You haven't read either of those two either

>> No.20060491

>>20060466
No but apparently he's black which explains the confusion. Even beyond the hilarious idea that "wordplay" and "rhyme scheme" are "closed off" rap inventions, which is the most incredible thing I've ever read, "flow" isn't new either, it's a long discussed idea, Pound talks about using the "metrical phrase" IIRC instead of meter, for quick proof, although anyone not an illiterate nigger already knows this.

>> No.20060500

If they're so smart, how come they never invented the pen?

>> No.20060507

>>20060491
you're taking it out of context. i never said rappers invented wordplay. the context that they use wordplay in is completely foreign to non-rap fans. it is true that multisyllabic rhyming is almost exclusive to rap, even pale fire isn't close to it's rhyming ability

>> No.20060511

>>20060484
>You know nothing about wordplay
I strongly assure you the guy who thinks rap invented it knows less.
>You haven't read either of those two either
I have no doubt it seems unbelievable to you, but by the "either" I appreciate the confirmation that you can't speak authoritatively on what poetry doesn't do

>> No.20060515

I'm just going to say what everybody already.knows. rap peaked with dr. seuss

>> No.20060517

>>20060511
you didn't list three examples

>> No.20060523

>>20059985
1 nigger 2 nigger
red nigger blue nigger
I got 5 tracks about whose dick is bigger

>> No.20060526

>>20060264
>Wordplay, rhyme schemes and flow are basically foreign to non-rap fans
Serious poetry has been exploring wordplay, rhyme schemes and "flow" (word for retards) for hundreds of years.

>> No.20060533

>>20060517
Probably because I'm not at your beck and call, if you want an acquaintance with the basics of poetry, which includes word play, open a book yourself

>> No.20060534

>>20060526
In the same ways rap has? That's laughable

>> No.20060540

>>20060264
So rap is a ghetto? Wow that's deep, faggot