/lit/ - Literature

Link your novel if not this is just bitching about someone who is a better writer than you

>>20038216
so you think the more money they make the better they are? seems more like pandering to the low IQ masses to me

>>20038248
>low iq masses

nevermind, i don't want to read your 4chan novel

>>20038248
>>20038214
You're the one writing sci-fi/fantasy or whatever low IQ genre shit that takes two months to write and SELF-PUBLISH.

>>20038248
Link your books or fuck off

>>20038214
my favorite thing about that guy is that he offers writing lessons, including expensive cruises you can take with him like he's l ron hubbard or something. every wannabe-writer community is buzzing with sanderson said this and sanderson said that and yet none of the people that slavishly follow his advice have any chances of "making it" because who the hell needs a million almost-sandersons writing a million identical almost-sanderson fantasy sagas when the actual guy shits out a new book every other month? where's the market for even a fraction of these people to make a living? it's like he's selling losing tickets to a lottery he's already won.

>>20038303
if you dont have a rapid release schedule amazon will sink you to the bottom. algorithms will destroy you. miss one month and you make nothing. its basically an indian sweat shop

>>20038341
So you also view literature as a commodity yet you bitch at Sanderson for being better at it than you. You sound like a whiny bitch to me. None of your books will be remembered when you die.

>>20038360
Spot on, a very salient appraisal.
I pity the fools who went all in on tech farm scams like this through the 2010s. I simply wrote what I decided to, when I decided to, and am rewarded generously for my integrity by my many fans.

>>20038360
Yes I sold 300 books last month in the romance genre with full time work. I have my personal author work I do ocasionally and they sell one or two at most.

>>20038370
That is the definition of privilege. Most working writers like me do not have this luxury. Miss one month and the algorithm sets you back to zero.

>>20038377
Sanderson got trad pubbed first. That is the difference. If you self publish you are wasting your time sorry to say.

>>20038377
What's the point of making art if all you do is churn out shit you hate? You sold 300 ebooks, how much money do you make off that? It can't be more than minimum wage. Get a real job, or at least a fake job with better pay

>>20038360
>None of your books will be remembered when you die.
Good. I hope I die and am burned in a pit into ash.

>>20038214
>Sanderson has been published 20 times
>Spent the last twenty years networking
>OP has never been published and probably doesn't advertise
>"Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!"

>>20038408
that is privileged talk again. how the fuck can someone advertise. I made $500 last month and rent is $650. shit is impossible

>>20038311
> like he's l ron hubbard or something
Well he is a mormon after all

>>20038417
Git gud

>>20038214
>Reducing the art of literature to an economic endeavour

Sanderson is the ultimate consoomer fantasy for the people that hate anything other than buying shit they won't use, read. If his books were edible he'd make even more money. Bet you anything that Stephen King's bestselling book is "On Writing"

>>20038417
>rent is $650
Do you live in a 3-person town in Alaska?

>>20038377
Nice dubs. And I toiled in the trenches myself, I'm only now coming out on the other side.
I share Lynch's philosophy for writing, >stay true to the story
Falling into the turmoil of schedules, policies and algorithms, especially defined by someone else, dampens ones ability to be true to a story and frankly seems fake as hell.

>>20038377
>That is the definition of privilege. Most working writers like me do not have this luxury. Miss one month and the algorithm sets you back to zero.
dude it sucks that you fell for the selfpub scam but what does it have to do with "privilege?" almost all successful writers support themselves with a real job before and often after they "make it." if you though you were going to get rich off of selling ebooks on amazon then you're retarded. what, like YOU were going to be the one that breaks through and becomes a big success? why you and not the other million people who had the same idea? it's childish entitlement.

>>20038417
Anon, advertising is free.

>>20038417
>Anon can't pursue his dreams because he was sorted into a lower caste
Should have worked harder in high school buddy!

>>20038472
>>20038481
This. it's why we need a full on communist revolution. You were sold a lie about capitalism, congrats, you realized what everyone does. Life is for the ones who are born rich.

>>20038487
>>20038481
>>20038472
What you are all missing about this situation is not to beat up on my low sales but that this moron got $30 million dollars for literally, nothing. Zilch. He just said pls gibs. And the zombies gave him thirty. million. dollars.

Surely there is some middle ground between my 300 sales, and his 30 million dollar for fuck all.

>>20038487
>I can't cope with being a failure and a retard so we failures and retards should rise up and kill all the rich people.
Actually, I can't refute this. Godspeed Anon

>>20038495
Didn't he actually write four books without telling anyone?

>>20038495
What you are describing is basic capitalism. If you don't realize yet it is unsustainable and our entire economic system is collapsing and being replaced by a cryptocurrency UBI. Situations like this are inevitable in a volatile collapse scenario. The fringe on both sides will be extremely pronounced. The middle ground that you are speaking about will be based around social credits.

>>20038495
Given he has a track record of several famous fantasy series completed, sounds like you're just seething that your trash has less mass appeal than his.

>>20038503
This is why they are getting rid of the middle class. They want only slaves and the elite to survive.

>>20038506
I am not seething I am pointing out the absurdity of the capitalist system.

It's actually very good desu. He supplies a service, and people are willing to pay for it.

Here in Norway however, there's a huge class of extremely entitled losers with literature degrees who think the government should pay them to be mediocre writers their entire life.

I prefer the former, the former isn't entirely fair because capitalism isn't fair, but the latter means that poor people pay taxes to keep a class of aristocrats alive.

>>20038525
>Retard writes books, people like them, retard writes more books, more people like them, retard gets rich
>Retard writes books, people don't like them very much, retard stays poor.
What's absurd?

>>20038481
Ok boomer

>>20038529
This level we are talking about has nothing to do with writing, it is about mass hypnosis. I have had his kickstarted open for the last two hours, and every few seconds it goes up by a few hundred dollars. this is total insane madness. If you can't see it you are brainwashed too. People see it is $26 million and their response is to go, donate $500 more to it, and number keeps going up. You think this has anything to do with books, writing, or authorship? It is mass hysteria.

>>20038527
Former means literature is ruined by the masses. Latter means literature is ruined by literary poseurs. The real option is to give money to a /lit/ grant so that /lit/izens, who have the innate ability to locate great works that deserve to be preserved, will allocate resources in the best manner.

>>20038553

>>20038553
People invest in the reliable source of literary entertainment. You are simply not as reliable as Brandy Sandy.

>>20038214
Who are you quoting?

>>20038560
check this. $1500 in like 2 minutes. thats like a year of gross for me.

>>20038216
He's Paul Town, renowned /v/edditor

26 000 000 / 112 000 = 230$ average backer? wtf

>>20038569
1 minute*
dude makes more in 1 minute than I do in 1 year.
and keep in mind. he is offering nothing. it's an IOU. so ZERO work. just total mass hypnosis brainwashing of zombies to give him money. absolute insanity.

>>20038573
this has to be some kind of money laundering scheme

>>20038525
Maybe you should start by understanding that wealth balance in the modern world is non-existent and monopoly money is seldom worth much in the long term. And that you have, indeed, fallen for a retarded scam.
You shouldn't externalize your own perceived failures. That's actual loser shit. Your critique isn't even logically rooted in pointing out faults of the system, of which there are many; you're just bitching because some dude is selling his image for currency quickly losing its value just as we speak, and wishing you could do the same through your perceived 'hard effort' without having the conditions necessary for doing so.
Are you a woman? This whole thread reeks of irrational envy, the kind only those cunts biologically blessed with a cunt could muster. It's a pure act of childish selfishness, looking at what others are doing and thinking "I want that, too!" instinctively with no retrospection nor understanding as to why it is so.
Get your shit together. I've more or less noticed that the entire story told in this thread is one of fabrication, a cry for attention (this in itself perplexes me), but that just makes the previous sentence even more relevant.

>>20038495
he didn't get it for "literally nothing," he got it after decades of hard work. it's obviously not "fair" and he's obviously a hack but he's a hack that's built himself a loyal fanbase he can now capitalize on and you're a hack that just whines. you're sitting there making demands of the world, like how you would be happy with just SOME free money instead of the whole thirty million - how modest of you! how about you tell us what exactly you have to offer. why would i pay for your shit over reading an established author? what is your value?

>>20038248
That is clearly not what he said, and we have confirmed that you are a retard.

>>20038527
Is that how Knausgaard survived before getting famous?

>>20038214
Who is that? I have honestly never heard of this guy.

>>20038573
>he is offering nothing. it's an IOU
>absolute insanity
that's normal crowdfunding. he can do it because he delivered work before that these genre-fic dopes liked, and you haven't. it's obviously not "rational," it's capitalizing on the inane fandom desire to make offerings to your favorite brand (collector's edition of muh video game etc), but that brand (the author's name in this case) is the product of skill and effort.

>>20038569
>>20038573
Seething shitholer

This thread is full of Reddit’s talking points. Fuck off, commies.

>>20038481
>caste
This isn't pajeetistan. We don't have castes in the west. Go back to your shithole, please.

>>20038672
>more or less noticed that the entire story told in this thread is one of fabrication,

this is hilarious because you are gaslighting and just doing the same except the other direction. there is no conceiveable way to justify why this moron deserves $30 million for an IOU. none. but here you are somehow whiteknighting him that he is just better than everyone else because he's rich and he deserves it.

>>20038766
>he's a hack that's built himself a loyal fanbase

That is where we differ. He has not built himself anything. He has just found a way to scam retards. Why that is is a whole conversation about capitalism no one is willing to have.

>>20038800
The bottom line is I think it is a symptom of the collapse of society. The consumers have no war to fight or purpose to live so rather than amassing to make change, they all amass together to fight the last war remaining: to mindlessly consume. So this thing pops up and it immediately gets $10 million. But that's not enough. "Come on guys we all have to work together. That will stop Putin!" So reddit go go goes and gets it to $25 million. But it's STILL not enough. They really want to consume. Because they're terrified of nuclear war and high gas prices. This is the last battle they have.

>>20038895
>He has not built himself anything.
He has a book rated 4.46 on goodreads with 494,269 ratings. That's more than Tolstoy or pretty much any canonized classic has. Obviously he is doing something that appeals to the masses.

>>20038214
>N-no the existence of more popular writers means capitalism has failed
I'm so tired of midwits using "capitalism has failed" as the default criticism whenever they're envious of a popular entertainer (whether they be a vtuber, basketball player or pop fiction writer). In pretty much every society, from Rome to the USSR, entertainers with broad appeal have been able to get away with murder; this isn't a problem specific to capitalism.

>>20038573
How is it an IOU? You are paying for the books and shipping. Is it just paying for an IOU when order something delivered online? Stop being hysterical just cause you are mad.

>>20038417
Sounds like you are terrible at sorting your life out. Terrible with money, terrible at delayed gratification.

Take two years, go to college with a government loan, get a higher paying job.
THEN write your book.

Goddamn. Entitled cry babies.

>>20038460
How did you know?

>>20038214
Holy cope

>>20038895
>He has not built himself anything.
he objectively has, that's what you're looking at when you stare at that money counter of his and seethe: there objectively exists a social structure (a fandom) that is willing to give him money, do free advertising for him, hype each other up to give them more money and so on, and this structure has not materialized out of thin air when he made his kickstarter page, as you can very easily test by making one yourself and watching no money flow in, it has in fact accumulated slowly over many years. you don't have that structure because you haven't built one and you aren't even in the process of building one, you're just sitting there hoping the amazon algorithm bestows favor upon you and makes you rich.

>>20038895
>He has found a way to scam retards
>the non-academic working/middle class is retarded
>immediately shills for the system that puts the means of production in the hands of those retards
Communism/socialism clearly isn't for you if you hate the uneducated working class this much. I'd suggest technocracy instead, but I get the feeling you're not big on STEM workers either. Maybe a clerical theocracy would be more your style?

>>20038887
He provides a product or a service that people want to pay for, of course he deserves it. Unlike you, who provides something people do not want, so you do not deserve their money either.
It's just simple economics. Nobody would pay you under communism either.

>>20038214

ITT: people who have never run a business.

Look. He'll be lucky to deliver on all those promises for the $26 mil.

For his 150K backers that about $235 each. Some will be expecting more than one set of perks, like for their families and friends.
The fund site takes their vigorish. He's down to about $200 per person.

That means he has to publish, create, produce, and transport "books and swag" without the network that usually does that for him -- a network that can make money because it does it for lots of artists.

He has to organize it, produce the infrastructure, and do it all starting right away.
200000 custom made books and swag from scratch at varying qualities, boxed and shipped, in multiple orders ...

Then there are returns, broken promises, bad batches, people move ... you know: life.

When you factor in the learning curve, the outsourcing, the time.... I'm not sure he would not have been better off just using his publisher and taking his 10%, and using his time to write more books.

>>20039042
Cope
Name one (1) author who made 30 mil before him.

>>20039037
So van Gogh didn't deserve anything?

>>20039052
J.K. Rowling

>>20039042
I'm under the impression that he has people handling all of that for him. Sanderson already has a massive support staff, and I'd be they already have some idea of what this is going to take. I'm sure he's involved in executive decisions (after all, his name is on it) but most of the details are going to be left to his manager, his wife and his support team, while he keeps writing.
Also, if you look at the rewards structure on the page, it's priced high compared to the average kickstarter. Physical rewards don't start until the $160 tier, and they're only sent quarterly until the $360 tier, where they become monthly. A plurality of users are only signing up for audiobooks or ebooks, which can be distributed quite easily.

>>20039042
The kickstarter is less about funding the books and more about adding funds to his already established publishing company Dragonsteel Entertainment. It already has its fair share of hires. He probably has more business sense than anyone here.

Not saying it still can't go south but I think you're underestimating the business skills of a man who has been doing this for a long time, as well as doing all sorts of other ventures like podcasts.

>>20038214
He's laundering that money. It's the only logic explanation.
>set up child porn studio (that guy looks like he's a pedophile because he's old, ugly, fat and wears glasses)
>sell it to the Mafia in eastern Europe for distribution
>hire a few ghost writers from Fiverr to write some shitty fantasy series
>start a kickstarter
>donate yourself $20 million
>???
>Profit

>>20039183
>>donate yourself $20 million
Except none of the people there have donated that

>>20038214
Cope and seethe.

>>20038495
>Surely there is some middle ground between my 300 sales, and his 30 million dollar for fuck all.

The answer is no. It's called the Pareto Principle and you can see it in pretty much every business/profession.

>>20039183
Sounds plausible

>>20038214
OP please tell me why you are working 60 hours a week making like $3 an hour writing romance books. Seriously just go work at a restaurant or something, it's less demeaning and you'll make more money.

>>20038417
People have literally demanded from the start you link your book, yet you just keep deflecting. If you're turning away free chances to get people to look at your book, it's no wonder you have so few sales.

>>20038214
>ABLOO BLOO BLOO
>I WORKED HARD
>GIVE ME MONEY TOO
>DON'T YOU KNOW I WORKED HARD?!

>>20038214
imagine seeing that this guy has already raised millions of dollars and still choosing to donate to him kek. do these people believe that it takes 30 million dollars to buy a typewriter or something?

>>20040351
People who donate get stuff in exchange for the donation. I can see why a Sanderson fan would go for it

>>20038214
>waaaaah people should throw money at me despite having no proof whatsoever I'm a productive author!

>>20040360
ah so you con them into buying their products for 10000x the cost it takes to distribute and produce them while making them feel good about themselves because they get to believe they are selflessly "donating" to help someone. got it

>seethe for months on Ugandan Tyrosemiophiles forum
>do nothing but seethe
>accomplish nothing
>earn nothing
>still seething

>>20039183
NFTs would have been faster and more deniable, and you wouldn't have to pay kikstarter are cut. But yes I too have considered laundering money by writing shitty poetry and "selling" hundreds of copies around the country.

>>20038214
Write better books, faggot.

>>20038214
>White Guy
Racist posting usually goes to /b/ or /Pol/

>>20038487
The commune already has a poet, you have been selected to dig ditches

>>20040624
More like
>I'm sorry comrade, party leaders daughter wants to be a poet. Even though your work is great you will now dig a ditch

>>20038214
the market has deemed his work worthy enough. stay mad marxist loser

People don't get that he's only making money because he's white and he's not including gay characters in his books.
>“And it’s largely because he lacks the creativity that comes with having a broad, diverse world view,” she accused. “With each book, I walked away feeling like if only these characters had been queer, if this colonial setting had been interrogated more, if that trope had been subverted.”
https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/03/08/brandon-sandersons-kickstarter-success-draws-outrage-accusations-of-white-privilege-from-fellow-writers/

>>20038214
>Brandon Sanderson
This guy writes the kind of garbage that genre fiction has been derided as for decades. It’s actual worthless garbage. I’m not sure why you’re jealous of not being a mass market ghoul like that.

>>20038903
I wonder how much it has to do with his branding. Also I wonder what types of people are reading these books and writing the reviews. I personally don't find his books enticing and haven't read any. Seems like the fast food of literature. I read to be challenged and to push my intellect into the dark corners of consciousness. Whereas I am positive that the average person finds no appeal in doing that.

>>20038214
money laundering

>>20038443
I love you ellulfag, never stop posting

>>20040954
Dammit stop making me want to read popular authors.

>>20039004
I don't think OP is being serious about the communist revolution, or he doesn't know what it entails. But the working class needs to be led by the clear perspective of a vanguard party, as per Lenin. I wouldn't say they're retarded, though, they're just bombarded with propaganda and ideology.

>>20038901
As opposed to what? Go back to the stone age and throw rocks at the other tribespeople? When the fuck do you think people had a better reason to live? You really have no idea how good you have it you fucking monkey brained retard. The fact that you think war is fought for some noble higher cause than peoples animal need to consume or compete just goes to show you actually have the same militaristic collectivist mindset as the dipshit redditors you are criticising, you just don't support their cause because they got there by caring about people. 4chan is just Reddits sociopathic older brother, so I can guaren-fucking-tee you that everything that is wrong with Reddit is also wrong with this hellhole of a website. Fucks sake, half of Reddit consists of reposts of greentexts and the rest is people complaining about the rich or some inane social issues the same way people do here. On both websites you have this delusional idea that the proles will revolt against the 1 percenters or the jews or whoever I mean for christs sake, you are actually using this website as a place to complain about how an author potentially pulling a scam on his fans is representative of the collapse of society, you and this entire website of preprogrammed complaining drones are all fucking delusional.

>>20039183

>>20041627
>plebbitor wall of text
you need to go back.

>>20041639

>>20038487
Yes, then we can ALL be destitute and live horrible lives. Nah, I don't allow greed to control me, so I'll take the lot I've been given.

>>20038525
Then go to a political subreddit or board. This is about literature - not your marxist irrational fantasies

>>20038887
>justify
He doesn't owe you a justification for shit. Just continue seething.

>>20042169
>>20041941
not me, but he will owe god justification for his greed.

>>20038887
Now you are the arbiter of what someone "deserves"? You are wholly unqualified. In fact, you are just a small man, riddled by envy, destroyed by lost potential (because you actually aren't shit, like 95% of people). Take your meds

>>20040954
>if only these characters had been queer, if this colonial setting had been interrogated more, if that trope had been subverted...
then it would have been PC trash that nobody read, just like your work!

some people are way too successful while others are barely surviving with 3 jobs

>>20042175
Even pushing aside whether or not he deserves it, taking $30 million from society at this point in history is morally abhorrent. Most those people are going to be homeless in a couple years when hyperinflation takes everything they own.

>>20042205
Do you have a problem with it when Hollywood studios do it?

The Batman made $500 million.

Your crabs in a bucket mentality is showing.

>>20038214
Don't be mad Sanderson is an author and you aren't.

>white guy
>late stage capitalism

Why did anyone respond to this obvious troll post? Sage this thread and move on

>>20040373
Isn’t it cheaper than it would usually be for one of his books?

>>20042219
Believe it or not, some people are genuinely mad at Sanderson for having a successful writing career.

>>20042205
>>20042241
Brandon Sanderson literally doesn't try in anything and has redditors soaking their panties lining up to give him $30 million.

You slave away in a word procesor everyday, sometimes twice a day, tracking your wordcount, reading self publishing guides, keeping up to date on booktube, watching "how to be a writer" videos, and looking up tips and tricks to get more sales in the amazon algorithm, and you get 0 (zero) sales.

Don't you get it? You were chosen to be a beta, it's natural selection, you're a loser and you will always be a loser. It's your destiny and nothing can change that, nothing.

>>20042245
well at least I'm a good person who wouldn't take $30 million from people. not on my conscience. I just wanted to make $2000 a month writing and am already 1/4 there.

>>20042245
>Brandon Sanderson literally doesn't try in anything and has redditors soaking their panties lining up to give him $30 million.
Yeah, he's living the /lit/ dream which is why /lit/ is seething.

>>20042267
>I'm a good person because I'm poor
Holy cope, batman. You're poor because nothing you've created has ever added value to society.

>>20042324
then I am equal to brandon sanderson, who also contributed no value to society
>$30 million for iou's is value
lool
you are so brainwashed by capitalism

>>20038377
>Most working writers l

" Those who write to eat nor write nor eat "
Francisco de Quevedo

>>20042341
>then I am equal to brandon sanderson
No, Sanderson created something, just because you're seething about it doesn't change that.

>>20042346
yes I do write, I did a whole 16 hr a day month last month to plan, write, and edit a book, that's why this $30 million for iou's campaign broke me. no one in this thread even understands, working so hard and then seeing some fat cat who does nothing, take 90 % of the entire book sales revenue for something that doesnt even exit. then go sry git gud, fuck that shit, this is totally rigged.

>>20042365
anyway I am done ranting here, you are all what they call, boot lickers. you immediately take the side of power and money because, like white knights, you think they will fuck you. with a less distorted field where 99 % of publishing gross goes to authors who do nothing but serve up an IOU, writers like me can actually have a chance make it. but sanderson's insane satanic greed wont stop me, I am already 1/4 to my goal. I would never be so out of touch though that I would take $30 million of peoples money for an IOU in a time of hyperinflation and economic collapse, and then pretend I have a moral highground.

>>20042341
12 successful novels is value, but you already knew that.

>>20038377
>That is the definition of privilege
No it isn't, you whiny little bitch. You decided to sell out and start writing shit to make money instead of having the integrity of only writing what you thought was valuable, and now you're here bitching that you were "forced" into this and you're not making the amnount of money you were promised.
Fuck off and go back to your sweatshop, you aren't good for anything better.

>>20038495
>this moron got $30 million dollars for literally, nothing
Sanderson is a shit writer for shit readers, but he got those 30 millions in exchange for the books he has written, not for nothing.

>>20039042
>He has to organize it, produce the infrastructure
What? All he has to do is use some ready-made service like Lulu. They think of producing the actual books (and/or ebooks), selling them and shipping them.

>>20040954
>the creativity that comes with having a broad, diverse world view
These twats really think that forcefully insert brown/gay/trans characters into their books, even when they add nothing to the story and are simply good-boy tokens, demonstrates creativity?
These cunts go around with a checklist that says "each story needs to have at least 2 brown characters, 3 female ones, 1 gay one and 1 transgender one", and they think this method makes them CREATIVE??

>>20042382
>you're all b-boot lickers!
Everyone has been telling you that while sanderson is a shit writer, you're as shitty as he is, and whiny, and incapable of understanding the system you willingly entered.

>The term "white guy" is in the first fucking post
>people seriously and unironically can't recognize bait this obvious

>>20038377
Maybe write better first before trying to churn out thousands of books that are all similar? Also nearly every writer started in some dumpy wagie job to pay bills as they got better at writing. Go work at a night job somewhere to get better at writing while getting paid.

>>20041627
It's crowd control. I wonder why there's a sort of controlled resistance.

>>20038487
>You were sold a lie about capitalism
No, you weren't. The market is supersaturated with shitty authors peddling their books. The capitalist dream is chasing wealth. If you expect wealth, don't become an author.

>>20038214
>I spent two months writing my novel
>why does no one want to read it and prefers the novels of a guy who spends years carefully writing and rewriting each one?
Get a day job and write a few hours each night on one book and spend time on it.

>>20042341
Oh shit, your a troll.

10/10, you got a lot of people mad in this thread

>>20042245
bait

>>20042241
>envious
Fixed for you.

>>20040954
Critical race theory put into practice
Wake up and see it everyone.

>>20042267
It's not 30 mil profit, you mong. He's got to produce and distribute tens of thousands of books.

>>20038214
>White guy

Was that really necessary?

>>20038214
>>I thought nobody reads anymore

Are books making a comeback?

>>20042245
That's some harsh self-talk my man, try being nicer to yourself.

>/lit/ STILL seething over Sanderson
>the people ITT that can't grasp kickstarter and calling it IOUs or donations
You people are so out of touch it's insane.

>>20040954
>if only these characters had been queer, if this colonial setting had been interrogated more, if that trope had been subverted

is this satire?

>>20044262
Yeah. Donations are where people (donors) are aware they are throwing their money down the drain for a supposedly good cause. While kikestarter is a straight up scam and the people (retards) who give their money away are always disappointed in the end.

>>20038527

We actually could use a class of aristocrats, that would be based

I hate Sanderson's work too but holy seethe batman.

>>20038214
Sanderson is better than any of the other fantasy authors in his field, so it’s well deserved. At the very least, he just writers what he thinks is fun, which is based compare to other authors who try to make fantasy into their philosophical thesis.

>>20044830
Who?

>>20044843
Leftist/progressive failed philosopher who wrote an extremely mediocre fantasy series.

>>20038572
Whales drive up the average

>>20045155
Better than anything else coming out these days, particularly Sanderson.

>>20038214
Wait, do you write an entire novel every two months? How many pages?

Why don't you start a quickstarter as well?

>>20040954
I despise these sort of cretins with passion.

>>20040954
I don't get it. Sanderson the faggy Hack is already a hardcore SJW. In one of his gay rubbish books all men are illiterate with only women knowing how to read.
>Verification not required.

>>20046243
with a passion*

Imagine a good portion is his publisher inflating the donations for publicity wouldn't that be a curve?

>>20046143
No, not really. Several authors are better than him. Sanderson has him beat.

>>20038214
Supply and Demand. You are entitled to nothing.

>>20038377
You chose this career, dipshit. It's like getting mad at your opponent for winning the high-stakes game of poker.

>>20040954
Sanderson has my support

>decide to churn out schlock for money instead of making genuine art
>"this kind of madness represents late stage capitalistic collapse in a nutshell"
lol

>the average person pledged $200

wtf lmao

>>20038214
>Sanderson writes five books in two years
>Martin can't finish one in eleven
I'm at my fucking limit, holy shit

>>20042743
So you think that if only reddit and 4chan didn't exist to divide all the comlaining drones, then all those people would actually coallesce into some competent movement against the elite controllers of the world. For one of the most pessimistic websites on the internet, that is one of the most delusionally optimistic things I have ever heard.

>>20040337
I can tell you why he's not linking it, but we both know :^)

>>20046537
How many funko pops can you see right now?

>>20047075
Martin is burned out. Let it go.

>>20038214
no it represents losing and luck. at the end of the day we are the whims of fortune despite all our work.

Why do artists hate capitalism? I've noticed this across all artistic fields. Even anger regularly directed at the greatest of those fields. What is it about artists specifically?

>>20046890
Honey do you understand how averages work?

>>20048340
a valid critique is that the pursuit of profit demands a shift in strategy from exploration (the domain of art) to exploitation (the domain of business). Creating interesting art is antithetical to the process of industrialization since the highest goal is to break forms and attain perfection. A practical man would see this as a waste of energy and would rather stick to a form that can be replicated and reduce the cost of its replication (thus resulting in a lack of quality or 'perfection' that is so dear to an artist). There's many novels which show this tension between say an art dealer and an artist where one is shown as vulgar, tasteless and practical and the other as bitter, idealistic and clownish.

For many though, capitalism is just a way to point the finger despite the fact that historically (huge) success in art has always been largely a function of luck and good timing