/lit/ - Literature

>>20032498
Fun fact. You can have a sexy woman and sex scenes without making the character an object or Mary Sue.

>>20032498
I don't really care because I don't read any novel or book written after 1900, but what's important is that I really want to cum on Kat's face.

>>20032498
name?

>>20032498
Many old books objectify boy and young man

>>20032498
Do not women objectify themselves? They spend so much time making themselves appealing visually to attract attention to themselves. Women and men objectify women. It’s like black people getting mad at the n word, Yet call each other it. I don’t want to hear it because you’re either a hypocrite or there is a major flaw in your logic. Women make me so mad, they spend all their time making themselves pretty and neglect the mind, because if this they are attractive yet say stupid stuff like this.
This is a parenthetical, but in regulates to rape… so women act like rape is the worst thing that can happen to someone right? Well what do they say when someone gets arrested for rape?
>oh I hope some big black guy gives him what he deserves. I hope he gets raped in prison.
So they aren’t really against rape, they just want the right people to be raped.

>>20032498
It is in the male brain to objectify everything - to see the world as a collection of tools to be exploited as means to certain ends. It is fundamental, it cannot be changed.

>>20032498
>happy International women’s day, anon.
duly noted.

It doesn’t matter what women like it matters what they read.
Women don’t like women gets chopped up by crazed serial killer books but they can’t stop themselves from buying and reading them. They sell much much better than feminist “you go girl” books.
Somebody keeps watching The Bachelor and it isn’t men

>>20032872
Its almost as if they're fragile, suicidal creatures

>>20032872
No one is watching The Bachelor

>>20032498
"Her", which in this case means a fictional character. I mean, it's a character the author has created. I know authors talk about having empathy for their characters and whatnot, but at the end of the day you are exploiting the character by writing about them regardless of how sexy you describe them.

The chain of logic seems to go something like this: there's a woman - she's described in a sexual way - this may impact the world in a negative way (reinforces stereotypes or a similar claim). This chain of logic has always seemed suspect to me.

>>20032597
you are retard .YES?

>>20032498
>Men objectify women
>This is seen as a negative because it is denying her personhood
>Men don't show affection to other men, because it's gay
>Men show affection to inanimate objects
>Affection is inherently a sign of esteem or favor
>i.e. "She's a beautiful vessel" "I love my car, how can you not when you hear her purr" "Yeah the Telecaster, she's my baby"
>A Man feminizes that which he has have affection for?
Hmmmm

>>20032512
im excited for this year's spring sweaty readz

>>20032597
They objectify themselves, yes. But they blame men for it.
Always remember, Anon, women can never be held responsible for any of their actions, to do so would be the utmost height of misogyny and we are all better than that.

>>20032896
It was fun reading all the roasties complain about Euphoria on Twitter as further evidence of how useless male writers were.
But women were the only ones watching it
And even after complaining, they kept watching it.
They just cannot entertain themselves

>>20032970
Ok incel

Daily reminder that Kant invented objectification and that you can't whine about it unless you believe in the categorical imperative.

>>20033017
I'm a feminist, retard.

>>20033035
Well I'm girl so you better apologize then

>>20032498
Yes, what we should be doing is mercilessly treating all the women in our books as unattractive, rather than describing them as beautiful. Here is an example of pro-feminist writing:

>the gross fat bitch snorted as he mounted her. Remnants of yesterday’s pizza seeped out from between the folds in her fat, grease, tomato sauce and slimey mossarella, stringy and semi-melted by her body temperature, as his attempts to clamber on top exposed the various pockets of air around her waist. The smell was almost too much to fathom; he grimaced, took a quick breath in through his mouth, and forced his cock through the undulating rolls that obscured the hideous axe wound beneath.

>>20033088
too tryhard. you come off as a bitter incel

>>20033158
I have a fiancee lmao. Are you really incapable of separating a piece of writing from your dumb projections? All I was doing was giving an example of non-objectifying prose, like a good feminist boy.

>>20033042
>I am a girl
You will be worthless in your 30s :)

>>20033158
Cope. He was writting a good hilarious prose.

>>20033165
>>20033195
samefag seething incel

>>20032498
I feel like the issue is massively overblown, like all feminist issues are these days, but I can’t stand overtly horny authors. In the specific tone of some books it fits, but in others it completely takes me out of the moment when the whole narrative grinds to a halt so the author can use his most grandiose prose to describe a pair of booba or a girls horny disposition, or a graphic sex scene. Most of the time I just see him sat behind his keyboard viciously tugging his intellectually stimulated penis. This is one of many reasons why I’ll never read ASOIF

>>20033210
>Is incel staying in the room with us right now??