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19997530 No.19997530 [Reply] [Original]

What does /lit/ think of Camille Paglia and Sexual Personae?

>> No.19997536

>>19997530
I find it daunting that Paglia still had a career after their intimate movie with susan sontag got to the surface but I guess there really are different standards for men and women

>> No.19997597

Conservatives hate her because they see her as a radical feminist. Liberals hate her because they see her as a terf. Paglia is a radical without a home.

>> No.19997648

>>19997530
Haven't read, cautiously intrigued, but I can't help feeling like a lot of her stances are posturing for the sake of notoriety

>> No.19997864

https://youtu.be/kFgYcVbAaNs
Skip to 1:24

She talks very fast and she is very sexy.

It's quite slick and sly for the men of these broadcasting programs to invite heavyweight female philosopher and force them into catty gossipy behaviour

>> No.19997885

Pedophile dyke.

>> No.19997975

>>19997530
It's very good except for the "Porn is pagan" part. Imagine being such a subversive or deluded person to think that hardcore pornography and obscenity is anything else than talmudic Judaism, kek

>> No.19998171

She is a Satanic libertarian boomer, much like Germaine Greer. I have a weakness for that kind of Spenglarian writing though, so I enjoyed the book a lot.

>> No.19998319

>>19997885
>Pedophile dyke.
Source?

>> No.19998327

>>19997885
Woah, she's so le problematic.
We must cancel her troonsisters

>> No.19998500

How much would it cost for her to sit in my face for 5 minutes? If you had to geuss

>> No.19998504

>>19998500
not much

>> No.19998523

>>19998319
The pedophile thing is a reference to her support of pederasty between older men and younger boys in the vein of the ancient Greeks. The dyke thing is a reference to her being a lesbian whose had public relationships with other women in academia.

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>>19997530
It's a based book. She's wrong about some things but overall very passionate and well read; she presents an intersting retrospecitve of the last few thousand years of artistic devlopment in the West. Paglia is an honorary man.

>> No.19998557

I want the one I can't have
And it's driving me mad
It's all over, all over, all over my face

>> No.19998565
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>>19998557
The boy with the thorn in his side
Behind the hatred there lies
A murderous desire for love
How can they look into my eyes
And still they don't believe me?
How can they hear me say those words
And still they don't believe me?
And if they don't believe me now
Will they ever believe me?
And if they don't believe me now
Will they, will they ever believe me?
Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh
The boy with the thorn in his side
Behind the hatred there lies
A plundering desire for love
How can they see the love in our eyes
And still they don't believe us?
And after all this time
They don't want to believe us
And if they don't believe us now
Will they ever believe us?
And when you want to live
How do you start?
Where'd you go?
Who do you need to know?
Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh

>> No.19998697
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19998697

Bump

>> No.19998708

>>19998504
Ball park? $40?

>> No.19998718

>>19998565
I only started listening to The Smiths recently and they're so fucking great.

>> No.19998725

>>19998565

A mile and a half on a bus takes a long time
The odor of old prison food takes a long time to pass you by
Day upon day of this wandering gets you down
Nobody gives you a chance or a dollar in this old town

Hovering silence from you is a giveaway
Squalor and smoke's not your style
"I don't like this place"
We better go
Then I compare notes with your older sister
I am a lazy get, she is as pure as the cold driven snow

What did you learn from your time in the solitary
Cell of your mind?
There was noises, the distractions from anything good
And the old prison food
Colour my life with the chaos of trouble
'Cause anything's better than posh isolation
I missed the bus
You were laid on your back
With the boy with the Arab strap
With the boy from the Arab strap

It's something to speak of the way you are feeling
To crowds there assembled
Do you ever feel you have gone too far?
Everyone suffers in silence a burden
The man who drives minicabs down in old Compton
The Asian man
With his love hate affair
With his racist clientele

A central location for you is a must
As you stagger about making free with your lewd and lascivious boasts
We all know you are soft 'cause we've all seen you dancing
We all know you're hard 'cause we all saw you drinking from noon
Until noon again
You're the boy with the filthy laugh
You're the boy with the Arab strap

Strapped to the table with suits from the shelter shop
Comic celebrity takes a back seat as the cigarette catches
And sets off the smoke alarm
What do you make of the cool set in London?
You're constantly updating your hit parade of your ten biggest wanks
She's a waitress and she's got style

>> No.19998826

>>19997530
the trick is not to read too much of her writing, she gets repetitive very fast. i'd go so far as to just read one of her books and leave it at that

>> No.19998832

>>19997975
that's an effect of when she was writing. feminism had taken on a puritanical bent during the porn wars. plus porn pre- and post-internet are so utterly different as to almost require different names

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>>19998327
>If you object to predatory faggots and dykes you're no better than LE ESSJAYDOUBLEUS

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>>19998832
>plus porn pre- and post-internet are so utterly different
Yet made by the same people.

>> No.19998844

>>19998833
Start with the Greeks

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>>19998844
>Dude fucking men up the ass is based and trad

>> No.19998858

Another controlled opposition figurehead like Juden Peterstein pushing 90's liberalism as the acceptable limit of right wing dissent.
https://wolfish.neocities.org/posts/articles/camille_paglia_pedophile_sex_revolutionary/

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>>19998849
Yes

>> No.19998886 [DELETED] 

>>19998833
this, just get the vaxx too

>> No.19998895
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>>19998879
>Quotes from a bunch of dead gaylords and browns

>> No.19998916

>>19998879
horrible misreading of the Greeks.

>> No.19998945

>>19998916
How so? The primary sources are quoted directly

>> No.19998995

>>19997597
Nazis love her

>> No.19999002

>>19997530
Is this worth reading? By this I mean does it have sexy writing that makes my pee pee hard?

>> No.19999083

>>19999002
>Is this worth reading?
Yes
>By this I mean does it have sexy writing that makes my pee pee hard?
No

>> No.19999088

>>19997530
good read

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7GeSKw9TsU

>> No.19999102

>>19998697
disgusting map

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>>19999088
what is this schizo shit

>> No.19999110

>>19999102
It's meant for oceanographers

>> No.19999115

>>19997530
>I love madonna bob dylan is the greatest american poet please young people look at me look how cool I am!!!! btw fuck Susan Sontag even though I spent half my career trying to grab her attention

>> No.19999120

>>19997864
""Everything is melting in nature. We think we see objects, but our eyes are slow and partial. Nature is blooming and withering in long puffy respirations, rising and falling in oceanic wave-motion. A mind that opened itself fully to nature without sentimental preconception would be glutted by nature’s coarse materialism, its relentless superfluity. An apple tree laden with fruit: how peaceful, how picturesque. But remove the rosy filter of humanism from our gaze and look again. See nature spuming and frothing, its mad spermatic bubbles endlessly spilling out and smashing in that inhuman round of waste, rot, and carnage. From the jammed glassy cells of sea roe to the feathery spores poured into the air from bursting green pods, nature is a festering hornet’s nest of aggression and overkill. This is the chthonian black magic with which we are infected as sexual beings; this is the daemonic identity that Christianity so inadequately defines as original sin and thinks it can cleanse us of. Procreative woman is the most troublesome obstacle to Christianity’s claim to catholicity, testified by its wishful doctrines of Immaculate Conception and Virgin Birth. The procreativeness of chthonian nature is an obstacle to all of western metaphysics and to each man in his quest for identity against his mother. Nature is the seething excess of being.""

>> No.20000561

>>19999120
Does she write anything else like this? She is something of a poetic essayist. This is a big point of continental, to not just write bland dry essay, but also recognize the lack of care toward a poet , so mixing the philosophical essay with the poetic verve

>> No.20001463

I can't tell if I'm really sexually attracted to camilia pagilia or if I just keep scrolling yhr catalogue and seeing this book cover and I'm sexually attracted to half Nefertiti-half Emily Dickinson