/lit/ - Literature

>>19995724
Two books exposing the f*male in its true form:
>The Manipulated Man (Esther Vilar)
>Sex and Character (Otto Weininger)
Read them both and you’ll never fall for the vaginal jew again

one of the biggest red pills is the first time you realize that women experience literally no disconnect between saying X when it feels good to say X, and completely betraying and contradicting X five seconds later when it feels good to do that. women like to "try on" male-centric morals and virtues like children playing dress-up, but they don't actually know what it means to set up a virtue as an objective principle for oneself and then resist the temptation to break it in future moments when it stops being convenient and pleasant.

so if you ask a woman what kind of guy she values, she will blab on and on for hours about how noble she is and how she sees through superficiality and only wants sweet genuine men and etc., etc., etc. then five seconds later she'll completely contradict everything she said. the key thing to understand about women is that they don't perceive any difference here. from a man's perspective, you are thinking "but she said 'i only do X' and two seconds later she did 'non-X'?" this is because the fundamental modality of male consciousness is erecting principles and trying to follow them - even if you're a shitty man, it just means you're shitty and weak at erecting principles, not that the FUNDAMENTAL modality of principle-erection is absent. a woman's fundamental modality is "doing what i feel like." to a woman, that behavior is completely consistent: in the first instance, she did what she felt like. then she did what she felt like again. only a man perceives that the CONTENT of the actions was contradictory, i.e., would be contradictory if performed by a man. but for a woman whose primary stream of consciousness is "what do i want to do right now? :) perhaps i'll wear a ribbon in my hair tomorrow, tralala!," no such contradiction occurred, or indeed is even possible.

>>19995873
What I really want to know is: has there ever been a good book written by-a-women-for-women explaining this? The main point of frustration aren't the sex-differences themselves, but that trying to explain something like what you're getting at in this post to a woman — not in a condemnatory way, but just to say, "Hey, there seem to be some pretty immutable differences in how we approach reality, so maybe things would go better if we tried to understand those patterns and remain cognizant of them" — basically doesn't work. They can understand it just fine in the moment of that particular conversation, but it never sinks in long-term. I'm being optimistic and assuming that a wall just gets hit by trying to talk about this stuff from "the male point of view", and that a woman who has really come to understand gender-exclusive qualia could lay it all out for them in a way that lands deeply.

>>19995724
Well, to be fair, all these fights are 99% male created.
Although Victoria Nuland is an architect of this current mess.

>>19995931
>>19995873
So basically you're telling me women are intristically taopilled and just go with the flow without paying heed to abstract concepts that have no real existence? Stirner needed an entire life to articulate this shit

>>19995724
>>19995931

Although it's mostly geared towards romantic advice, "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" by John Gray actually delves into how the motivations/"tactics" of the sexes are different. It's certainly not a red-pill masturbatory work celebrating how great men are, but helps illustrate how our societal roles influence our decisions. In fact, I would argue some of the topics that are touched on help explain why some men believe they have the moral initiative (as per >>19995873 ).

>>19995931
>>19995873
Because one of the fundamental importances of the world is pregnancy, women know they are ultimately the bearers of this task; all ideas and formalities and principles are merely aids towards successfully conducting pregnancy. Being the bearer of pregnancy, knowing it is fundamentally most important, knowing this or that made made fashion to establish the worldly order and circumstances to maybe or maybe not best aid pregnancy, may be more or less fallible, in comparison to the raw unshakeable primordial truth. If the womb wants this or that, now or then, and it can become pregnant and comfortable and successfully raise that pregnancy here as well as there, this way as well as that, the minutia of such ways possibly become relatively arbirtrary or superficial.

Of course this activity takes place in the face of collective, ethnic, culture, united, ununited, principled, unprincipled male force.

>>19995873
people are just fickle, that's all.

>>19996775
They're not taopilled. Women are incredibly neurotic.

>>19996839
true, only men have it in them to become 100% sociopathic and completely detach from everything

>>19995724
The red queen was pretty good from a biological perspective. And if you want more practical advice I would say you nerds should listen to gangster rap, pimps, Patrice or Chris Rock etc.

>>19995873
And the biggest red pill is when you notice you're doing this all the time as well. The only difference is the lack of formalisation. Both women and men act according to unuttered principles. They're easy to see once you begin to pay attention.

>>19995724
>WWIII

Yeah just look at all the heavyweight conflicts this is lumped in with already.

>They can understand it just fine in the moment of that particular conversation, but it never sinks in long-term.
"The Woman had not the slightest recollection of the day before, she rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; she couldn't remember a thing, except that she had proved the correctness of her assertions the previous day.

>>19995873
Perhaps you should try to alter the self-contradictory fundamental modality of the consciousness of principle-erection to have sex

>>19997306
What's up with those dang Israelis always stirring up trouble?!

>>19997314
to be fair I've known lots of guys who do exactly the same thing

>>19997343
Too bad Russia is fighting all the neo-nazis!

>>19997306
>Israel at the heart of more than a third of them
>U.S. has the U.N. so whipped they didn't even call a session in 2003
Top zozzles.

>your sperm includes killers that are looking for rival sperm to destroy
>ovulation and pregnancy is determined by what her body subconsciously values and she can self terminate if she doesn't value your sperm
>the shape of the head of the penis is designed to scrape out the sperm deposited by previous males

>>19997383
Emergency sessions are for third world conflicts it seems even today.

>>19997396
Hey, some of those countries aren't destitute hellholes: for example, its unfair to lump Palestine and Russia together---Palestinians have a longer life expectancy

>>19996795
>"Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" by John Gray
reading atm and I actually feel that it helps me to contextualize certain moments where a woman has tried to 'help' me but felt more condescending than anything else (though I withheld my feelings). I'm really enjoying the book. thx.

>>19997403
>some of those countries aren't destitute hellholes: for example, its unfair to lump Palestine and Russia together---Palestinians have a longer life expectancy

Kek it's actually true. No wonder the stronk rushn' military looks like pic related

>>19996689
Doesn’t matter if the wars were female created, it’s besides the point. War is a man’s territory generally, and women are better in providing assistance, this is a fairly traditional model and people try to deny it nowadays

>>19997419
Russia is the easy part. Transnistria will be the true final boss of the war.

>>19996817
T. Woman

>>19997199
If we use this definition could we say that incels are the most adept at Taoism?

>>19995873
>>19997568

>>19996795
>John Gray
Isn't he hated by everyone in psychology because his entire book is based on gender stereotypes?

>>19995931
I dont have the picture anymore, but I remember an Anon posting about a book by a woman that made him understand women deeply and now he hates them.

>>19997365
Did these guys wear small hats and enjoy rubbing their hands together?

>>19995873
you seem like you’re fun at parties

>>19995724
I hate wojak memes so fucking much it's unreal.

>>19995724
Women are more collectivist, men are more individualistic. Although, this is fast changing.

Unironically Peterson is accurate when he says men are thing oriented and women people oriented. I made the mistake of taking too many psychology courses in high school and uni and being exposed to the group think of groups composed entirely of women. They value consensus over results.

A good example of this is my high school trivia team. This is probably the best and most overt example I can think of for illustrating how differently men and women approach problem solving. There were three solid players - one for science, one for math, and I was the history/misc guy. The team should have been about five people - the three mentioned and two backups. Instead, all the girls who showed up demanded a seat on the team. We went in with a group of ten, half of which were largely incompetent, with a female majority. They wanted all players an equal chance to play, and so the three best players were played as often as the three worst. All other teams (male dominated) did the exact strategy I mentioned earlier - three really good players with two alternates.

We ended up losing horrifically, and yet, in the face of objective failure, the girls walked away thinking the tournament was a success. Even though our whole team performed dismally, each player had an opportunity to play, and to them that was a success.

This isn't to lampoon women or anything, there are reasons for why women are more group oriented and situations where I think that is probably the best way to solve problems (for instance, the family unit) but they do think fundamentally different to men.

I grow more sympathetic to the Gayreeks every day desu.

>>19998050
>Women are more collectivist, men are more individualistic
Horrible take. Men are capable of collective action, women simply aren't.

>>19998009
kys

>>19998050
This is pure self-preservation. Women are vicious creatures full of envy and motivated by hedonism, so if they don't let everyone get some pleasure, they will later stab them in the back. Cooperation and efficiency takes a back foot to self-preservation.

>>19998090
Collectivist minded does not mean collective action.

>>19998090
also

>take

you have to go back

>>19995730
I have the first one

>>19995931
Only one party actually needs to understand the differing perceptions of reality, and it's the man. You can go a long long way just treating any woman like a child.

>>19995724
The Feminization of American Culture by Ann Douglas

The more I learn about women the more I believe they should have their tongues removed after they're born to shut them up and normalize violence against them from day 1, because shit goes south when violence against women becomes stigmatized, or so I strongly believe.
t. b&'d from /pol/

>>19998513
seems a bit extreme mate

>>19995724
they can still look like e-thots in my kitchen

really not convince that women should be knowable by men. different spheres or something.

>>19996809
>one of the fundamental importances of the world is pregnancy
You had a good idea, but then you covered it in bullshit wording and made your post roughly five times longer than it needed to be. Stop trying so hard. You're allowed to write interesting things without being a little fancy lad about them.

>>19996689
Depends. Men usually go to fight willingly, but even ideas like Greater Germany was more of a women's thing, same with white feather movement that shamed men to fight in a war. I would say part of war is women using violence by proxy.

>>19995873
>people still falling for this pasta after all these years
I'm neither disappointed nor impressed. It's just what I've come to expect at this point.

>>19997419
Stop posting UKR propaganda.

ooo wee another shitty /r9k/ or /pol/ thread where no one actually discusses literature!

how do some of you niggas write so much about women but can’t get no pussy

>>19999662
Off topic threads are always the best threads negro.

>>19999818
But this isn't a good thread. It's just turbo nerds spouting the same stale pasta at each other.

>>19998139
This. Women are people oriented because for the most part their only strategy in life is to manipulate others so they get what they want and prevent other women getting theirs.

>>19999965
I somehow doubt you are an actual anthropologist.

>>20000084
I somehow doubt you are an actual logician.

>>20000102
Well, I did study modal logic for a few semesters, but that is besides the point.

>>20000107
Kind of isn't, though.

>>19997390
Which means there's nothing wrong for fucking non virgins, since you will DISINTEGRATE the rival sperms and take control like a true chad. Thanks for clarification.

>>19999818
these particular ones aren't, newfag

>>20000111
The point is that social creatures, like humans, evolved to be social, not to be the opposite of that. Empathy is a thing. That being said humans are capable of behaving asocially. Like everything else, human behaviour is incredibly complex. Saying "women are manipulative because of the stone age" as a statement is as useless as it is reductive.

I don't see what me studying modal logic has to do with that point.

>>20000126
>I don't see what me studying modal logic has to do with that point.
I believe you. I'm not surprised that you said this.

>>19999616
let's see Pau- I mean the soldiers captured by Russia

>>20000126
Idiots always think they can violate safety rules because sometimes it doesn't go wrong. Quantitative differences become qualitative and the rules keep us from getting burned.

>>19999453
No no extrapolation is the spice of life, ambiguity leads to stupidity and misconnection, I didint ruin the post by supporting with explanations for the quip,dude trust me

>>19995724
Emotions = Reality covers most of it.
For women, the general assumption is that circumstances lead to an emotion, so the emotion must reflect reality.
Other women actively reinforce this and men learn that robustly attacking a woman's worldview will lead to reduced success with women (though it can be used tactically to heighten emotions).
We don't police women's emotions as much as men because they're generally less overtly dangerous than men's.