/lit/ - Literature

>>19985270
All this faggotry started with Martin Luther.
Peasantry shouldn't be allowed to read, let alone women

>>19985270
Assuming you're like 20 since you're in undergrad you should attempt to care as little about politics as possible even if it annoys you. You can still be saved from the polticsbrain and will be so much happier

>>19985272
Dare I say? Based.

>>19985270
Why don't you try to tell us what you think the objective of literary studies should be, OP?

>>19985292
I’m in my early 20’s, because I worked for a couple of years before going to university. I wish I could just ignore it all but it’s impossible since virtually every single course that the English department offers is about studying literature only in its social and political contexts. I have this tedious, irrelevant ideological posturing shoved down my throat day in and day out. Harold Bloom’s “school of resentment” theory was honestly prophetic. The humanities have been decimated, and reduced to a playground for intellectually lazy peddlers of identity politics.

>>19985292
Okay commie

>>19985270
>It makes me ashamed to be a woman.
YWNBAW

>people are interpreting texts in a way I don't like, what do?
Kill yourself or get over it

>>19985311
I think that’s a complex question, so I can’t answer it in its entirety here, but the focus should be on studying works of literature that are chosen on the basis of lasting merit rather than to meet any sort of diversity quota. Of course, analyzing literature through the lens of its socio-political themes has a place, but I’d like to see a greater focus on studying form and technique. >>19985329

>>19985357
You should have done a creative writing class instead

>>19985270
OMG SO MUCH THIS

>complaining that pussies are pussies
woah

OP do you want to be an author?

>>19985311
Why don't you tell us what you think is the appropriate way to write about the subject of rape. Pretend it doesn't exist?

>>19985344
It’s not that I care if others’ interpretations of a text differ from my own. It’s just that I find it disheartening to see the complexity of any given text reduced to “Character A behaved badly towards Character B.” Human history (and our current world) is full of every kind of abuse and injustice— that’s simply a fact of life, and we’ll never live in a Utopia. That isn’t to say that we shouldn’t take action to try to create a better world; I’m just pointing out that people’s lives have never been entirely fair and never will be, so obviously the literature that people create will depict various injustices. I don’t see anything particularly innovative about pointing out obvious instances of unfair or oppressive behaviour within works of literature and then acting as if you’ve completed some kind of advanced analysis.

>>19985380
In an ideal world I’d like to publish something someday. But in order to appeal to the current zeitgeist, I’d most likely have to write about themes that are related to identity (gender/race/etc) in order to garner any kind of success.

>>19985344
Not differing opinions that are grating. It's shrieking entitled wamenspeak. If that doesn't fuck you off then you aren't human

>>19985368
Hello newfag

>>19985393
As has been pointed out, you signed up for the 'interpret books through a banal political lens' course, not the 'let's analyse structure and characterisation' course

>>19985440
I would have loved to sign up for the “let’s analyse structure and characterization” course, if the department actually offered one. I only took one course this year that was even remotely educational or meaningful, because I simply couldn’t find any others. To display what I mean, my university’s English department offered four different special topics courses this year that focused on the representation of various niche identity groups within contemporary YA fiction, in contrast with a single course on literary Modernism. Even the Shakespeare courses that they offer are focused solely on analyzing his plays in relation to their depictions of sexism and racism.

>>19985270
This is just the natural progression of the Humanities ever since women were allowed into it. Now it's essentially a mad house with cushioned walls everywhere so that the patients won't hurt themselves.
Consider the stark difference between the scholars during the Renaissance like Scaliger or Poliziano who loved to pick fights with other scholars on the basis of being intellectually superior in relation to esoteric subject matters. Nowadays, the scholars fight each other on the basis of who is more woke or empathetic or ally to the oppressed.
It's like the maternal instinct has broken out of the domestic sphere into the public one and has sissified everyone in the 1st world.

>>19985462
I wouldn't pin this on women tbqh. Women are perfectly capable of classical analysis of literature. There is another more obvious culprit

>>19985457
You will read YA, you will work in HR and you will be happy

>>19985473
Yes, incels.

>>19985482
Incels are also perfectly capable of classical analysis

>>19985311
Don't know why I'm bothering to give a literally who twitter screencap thread a (You), but...

The point that she missed was that Winston's urges were presented as yet another manifestation of Big Brother: not only is he subject to the party's total control and surveillance, but even from within, his basest instincts and desires have been subjugated to the will of the party, to the end of power for the sake of power and the glee of stomping on the weak.

The sentiment this woman expresses is that the human impacts of authoritarianism are too problematic to talk about and that someone from the grievance studies comintern should step in sanitize it to be more appealing. So, she's against literary studies as a field of genuine insight and thoughtful discussion, and on the side of Big Brother.

>>19985486
Not really.

>>19985473
>There is another more obvious culprit
And who would that be.

You're probably not a woman

>>19985462
>>19985473
The way that I see it, it’s not the fault of women or of any racial minority group. It’s the result of postmodern ideology (largely created by white men such as Foucault) that focuses on group identity as though it is paramount, and seeks to analyze everything through the lens of power, assuming that in every social relation there exists an oppressor class and an oppressed class.

>>19985493
I doubt you even know it is lol

>>19985473
>There is another more obvious culprit
if you're lower class, you're expected to work to survive. which means people who are functional and go to college almost always pick majors which they expect will pay out.

it used to be rich people debated and ran more experiments themselves, but these days rich people are the trashiest people around. literally no morals, they're the worst.

so the only people who end up in lit programs tend to be mentally unstable weirdos.

>>19985498

>>19985507
Of course it is. There we go. Thanks for the riveting input.

>>19985270
>It makes me ashamed to be a woman
Well, that's no issue, find yourself a good husband and keep to the kitchen, and we'll all get along just fine. And if you aren't, then I would suggest that you find something better to do with your time.

>>19985462
>>19985501
No, it's definitely women, but the thing is women will go where they are allowed to go. It's their job (in life) to follow behind men and support them. In other words, they're behaving like this because men enable them or 'want' them to. So it's women, but it's men.

>>19985524
>find yourself a good husband and keep to the kitchen

That's a bad call for women. Her husband can just dump her and pay nothing or a meager alimony and now she's an uneducated divorcee with no career.

>>19985519
Who are the thinkers of critical theory?

>>19985519
What's wrong? He's right.

>>19985272
Unfathomably based

>>19985270
>drop out of school and kill myself
Drop out of school and kill them, please, if you're going to kill someone

>>19985272
Was it really just the democratization of the Bible that led to this? I actually think that might be entirely correct, but it's difficult to conceive of a domino theory starting with Luther and ending with your mulatto transon sending a twerking video into an admissions office

>>19985544
As a homemaker that's a ridiculous feminist trash talking point. Divorce nearly always gets started by women which "fell ou of love". Men are simple creatures. Keep their stomach full, their hair ruffled and balls empty and you will be a SHAM as long as he lives.

Plus, if you want kids you won work either way if you're not on of those trashy subhumans giving their infants up to kindergarden befor they can even walk. We keep ours at home till mandatory school begins.

Stop spreading bullshit.

>>19985270
t. Yells NIGGER into his pillow whenever he sees a brown person on TV.

>>19985595
>Was it really just the democratization of the Bible that led to this?
No, because the Quran was incredibly democratized and both genders of all classes were always taught how to read, recite, and rewrite it. But then, Muslim women were literally kept out of society altogether, in harems. So there's more to it.

>>19985623
You will never be a real woman.

>>19985637
Pretty sure having an working uterus makes me a woman, anon.

>>19985501
One literary essay by Foucault (e.g. The Prose of Actaeon, or The Thought of the Outside) is infinitely better than the entire currentday academe put to-gether

>>19985652
Working? I'll need proof of that.

>>19985623
I'm a man and I've seen it happen to some women, it's a grim picture. If I were a young woman, at least regarding my country (latin american shithole), I would never bank my livelihood on a modern man unless I had better guarantees by contract or the state.

>>19985721
>latin american shithole
There you go. It's not like that in the West.

>>19985721
Oh well, latin america can hardy be called a civilized place, so I wont speak for them but I am sure your whole nation isn't made up of savage monkeys. It all depends on the man a woman picks. If she goes for bad boys, it's her own fault. Even here in germany too few women actually know what to look for in men and vice versa. But when you pick your spouse wisely you can absolutely stay at home and not work (outside of it).

>>19985652
I swear I have only heard females do the "blah blah, anon" unironically. Men will do the "anon...I" or will say "no i didnt say that the other anon did" but they never or rarely finish their posts with anon. It's probably because the distinction for females is more pronounced in their own minds whereas for men it's just a matter of course.

>>19985637
Why does every woman on this board get the same moronic “YWNBAW” response? Women make up half of the world’s population: is it really that inconceivable to you that some of us post on /lit occasionally? Obviously there are biological men who are trans and choose to identify as women (1% of the population at most) or men who LARP as women online for whatever reason, but I doubt they’re the majority on this board. Pretending to be a woman when posting on /lit would be pointless at best and detrimental at worst, because if you admit to being female you often get dismissed outright or harassed by angry NEETs. No one ever questions it when an anon says he’s male, funnily enough. In fact, there have been times when I’ve assumed a male persona in my own posts, or allowed people to assume that I’m male in their responses, because that way people actually take me seriously and don’t just respond with “be my gf” or “women are subhuman”, and nobody’s ever suspected a thing.

>>19985772
Trnny is a synecdoche for spiritual faggotry in general

>>19985771
Dunno, maybe I picked it up on here not being a native speaker and all. Or because I'm slightly austistic myself, which tends to create a more manly brain.

>>19985772
Stop white knighting me. We all know the drill. It's to keep female atention whoring to a minimum. Posting YWNBAW towards obvious female posters which might not even intend to whore is just societal obligation at this point.

Plus, just because we're half of the population, doesn't mean we're similarly distributed on here. It's still a sausage party.

>>19985801
Fair enough, although I wasn’t intending to white knight you— I was more frustrated about getting that response myself every time that I mention being female.

>>19985821
>>19985801
>women accusing each other of being men
Lmao

>>19985329
Just join a conservative political organization

>>19985801
>>19985821
no reason to fight ladies haha there's enough /lit/cel for everyone

>>19985847
>tfw I unironically craniomeasured my husband fo an indept phenotype analysation

Just drop out. It's over and it will never get better. I've dealt with it myself because I was stupid enough to ignore everyone who said that it was a lost cause.

>>19985270
>I have a shitton of weaknesses and I never face them but make a virtue out of them
>that makes me a good person worthy of respect
pathetic nothing but pathetic

>>19985507
hey it's that guy that barbecues with a smoker on pbs

>>19985473
Too much cushiness, not enough purpose?

>>19985272
Truly it started with Gutenberg

>>19985270
People who approach books like this should just stick to YA, their natural habitat.

>>19985272
I kneel.

>>19985270
desu, I read the I Am Legend recently and it starts off pretty rapey, desu. I was a bit put off, but I also get the literary value too (to show how fucked up the hero has become).

>>19985270
>it’s so obvious that the majority of my classmates have grown up in complete privilege with no meaningful experiences of sexism or adversity of any kind
Or maybe they've experienced sexual abuse up to and including rape. Something I found weird was how suddenly after being in academia, women started admitting around me that they've been raped or sexually abused, because discussions of those things are sort of permissible in contexts discussing the very thing (sexism, etc) under question. If you're studying math or chemistry or something that context isn't there, I guess.

>>19985270
you're a man.

>>19987025
>rapey
Is there actual rape or not? Usually when I see 'rapey' it's someone trying to make not-rape seem as if it's as bad as rape.

>>19985329
sorry different opinions trigger you, anon
why go to university if you already know everything?

>>19987044
No. That's coming from a child sexvictim instead of a regret from fucking an uggo while drunk. Women which so opnly talk about their rape stories, never have been actually raped. You would never put yourself openly in such a position because it'S not a badge or something to be proud of. It's horror and full of shame. They all suddenly say they wefre raped because it shounds cool to be the victim.

>>19987140
Retard did you even read the post? She just wants another opinion than the one so heavily pressed by the school.

>>19985270
Good, useless shitbrained femcunt is self filtering and forfeitting her opinion of certain books. Stay out of circles that do read them them and dont try to inject yourself into those groups just to spew your shit opinion.
The only thing a woman should read is a recipe book.

>>19987149
are there "men" that actually think this way?

>>19985272
I didn't expect to read such a based post today

>>19987162
Probably, they should be cast out with the holes they emulate.

>>19985519
He's right, women are amenable to it because of certain psychological traits but there's obviously a different prime mover

>>19985801
YNBAW
>>19985772
kys faggot

>>19985652
Rules 30 to 32, we are going to need evidence, please...

>>19985772
Refer to >>19987891
We are going to need evidence, "ma'am".

>>19987140
>on /lit/
>zero reading comprehension
Most retarded post I saw on this board today

>>19985801
>>19985821
Never thought I'd see this, KEK

I never listen to anything a woman says! I never listen to anything a woman says!

>>19985595
its conicided with them being able to print books instead of hand writing each copy

>tfw discussing Musil and Theocritus with the boys, filtering w*men in the process

>>19985473
Obviously baiting Da jooz, but in reality oligarchs of all stripes. Unironically focusing on the jews is a division tactic itself. Anything to hinder class consciousness discussion by muddying the waters with race.

>>19988194
In my experience all jews, up and down the ladder, share the same beliefs and have the same degenerate principles and values. Some jews are OK in this regard, but its a resounding jewish mindset that is prevalent at all levels.
There really are no good jews, but the ones at the top are the ones most in need of baking.

>>19985473
the one that can are the exception

>>19988194
All societies have classes, all societies have elites. Leftists just want to sidestep all discussion of race because it's difficult. All you want is to stick to their pathetic talking points about wages and unions. Talking about race isn't "muddying the waters", it's a fundamental part of being human. At least liberals will have the conversation even if everything they say about the topic is completely wrong.

>>19985393
You write well.

>>19985623
>Keep their stomach full, their hair ruffled and balls empty

Based. I have no problem working and providing for my wife as long as this happens. Families are fucking great.

>>19985270
>if a teen girl says the rapey overtones of 1984
>rapey overtones
>rapey

This legitimately can mean fucking anything.

>>19985270
Well its the natural state of women. Most of civilization was built without their help and then they cry oppression for the civilization that was built for them. Not my problem. Its the whole "beggars cannot be choosers" attitude.

>>19985272
I was raised Lutheran. Now you made me feel bad.

>>19985486
Yes and I know one that is
>>19985493
>no proof

>>19985501
Foucault was a pederast. It's difficult to call him a "man."

>>19985270
Tits + timestamp.
>>19985272
Powerfully Orthodox. Can't imagine why this is a theme here.

>>19985595
>wasn't it just Abrahamic religion?
Yes, as even a cursory glance at the lives of the spiteful mutants the Church Fathers demonstrates.

>>19985272
based

The nice thing about literature is that it can contain things you find repulsive.

Read it or don't.

>>19985272
Imaging filtering the 2/3 of this board posters.

>>19988328
More like an unhinged animal.

>>19985772
Stopped reading after the first dumb question.
Read pic related and shut your fucking tumblr mouth, stupid cunt.

>>19985721
Nobody who has not the moneez or actually made it in Latin America can live with just one salary. Different economic realities.

>>19985272
fpbp

>>19987146
It's pretty known that the shame which would keep rape victims from speaking out about rape is actually a way to keep the issue from being addressed at a more institutional level. People speak out about rape to raise awareness and show solidarity in case someone else next to them has experienced those things. Any time it's been described to me, sexual abuse has always happened to people during their childhood. Maybe you've encountered people saying anything about being drunk but I haven't.

>>19987044
I was raped at 3 and am comfortable discussing these topics. It's just because women are fragile. If you're a man who has a hard time discussing these things then humanities at a university, a place where all thoughts are allowed, isn't a place for you.

>>19987162
Yes but rarely. Most men who are sexist genuinely want what's best for women and see feminism as a lie that sets women up for ego death and failure. I fall into the camp very reluctantly.

>>19988711
>insitutional
>childhood
Childsex crimes happen because women have birth control and arent the sole child guardian of their children.

>>19988711
>is actually a way to keep the issue from being addressed at a more institutional level
Are you retarded? Which institution or group want to prevnt victims from speaking out? Stop spreading the nonsense you learned in your oppression olympics class. Jesus fuck, is there something more enraging that fucking wealth ad actuall privilige degenerated individuals pathologically trying to feel oppressed while peopl which have eaten shit just get on and surpass such subhumans more often than not?
You spoke about university student, their whole life before going to uni was their childhood, often it hasn't even ended at that point due to our cultures infantilization.

Just take the actual statistics into account how many women actually get raped and do th math if half of your fellow student really could have been such victims. Rality is that for most people it's a bonding exercise and wanting to belong as wel as getting attention.

You are a naive young man which probably has no idea how women think and act, taking what they say at face value like a good boy because you have been thought to always believe a "victim". You're probably too young to know matress girl, right? Disregard Sargoy, his was the first hit and I can't be bothered to look further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwQSnQIPrY

>>19985272
Correct.

>>19987162
Not enough sadly.

>>19989174
top kek

>>19985272
Twitter brain take

>>19985821
>every time that I mention being female
when will they learn.
Tits or gtfo

>>19985329
this
>>19987140
jesus christ anon.

>>19985272
>Peasantry shouldn't be allowed to read, let alone women
pic related fellow noble.

As a fellow clunge-owner, I understand your visceral hatred for the sensitive ninnies that call themselves “women”, OP

>>19985270
I wrote my ESL gf's essay on Wuthering Heights for her. It was returned with red marker all over it because I based it on the idea that Nelly Dean was the villain. She got a 65% but I was pissed and looked it up to see if anyone else had the same take as me and it turned out someone did--I tried to get my gf to confront the TA to have her grade raised but she was worried about getting caught for plagiarism.

>>19985519
You can't escape from the Truth.

>>19985501
>postmodern ideology (largely created by white men
>white men

>>19985473
>Women are perfectly capable of classical analysis of literature.
Even Virginia Woolf in her essay "A room of one's own" discusses at length how women are virtually all handicapped by their feminist blinders and by the huge chip on their shoulder they have against men, to the point where they're incapable of aiming for artistic beauty instead of using writing as a weapon to bash men.
Women tend to be worthless authors/critics for the same reason niggers do: intellectual myopia, obsession with ONE issue, and only that.

>>19985493
Nice argument, hole.

>>19985721
>at least regarding my country (latin american shithole)
If your country is full of subhumans they'll behave like subhumans, regardless of laws and customs.

>>19990096
>Nelly Dean was the villain
Curious. Why?

>>19985393
I know what you mean. I took a world lit course, and one of our readings was the Baghavad Gita. Almost everyone in the class commented that it justifies war. It does say that, but there is so much more to the book than that.

>>19985488
Good post.

>>19990187
I honestly can't remember (I read the book in one day so I could write the paper and that was a long time ago now). Check out "The Villian in Wuthering Heights" (James Hafley).

>>19988740
I dont discuss what happened to me when I was 3 because I dont want people to have the image of me in their minds. Its a regular theme on tiktok for girls to be overly open about their sexual experiences at a young age (any time before 18) traumatic or not. I used to say I would neber date a girl that was raped but now I see that I just shouldnt date at all. Every girl has some story about sucking and fucking at various points in their childhood and then instead of being averse to it they make it their entire personality.

>>19988740
>a place where all thoughts are allowed
lol

>>19985338
I don't think there are many trannies saying they are ashamed to be a woman. They realize it would just be too comical and are too obsessed with their forced, though incorrect, female identity and sexuality.

>>19985457
Choose a different uni, drop out and try to make it as a writer, or change majors to find something you enjoy more or will make you more money. Studying English, especially in this manner, isn't going to help you make big bucks or become s better writer.
I switched from English to Classics and much prefer it, although it is quite pozzed, and as such, I plan on not graduating, but I could if I just wait one semester‐‐wouldn't have to take any classes even. But that's not the life for me. Where I'm going, a college degree means nothing, and I have long grown weary of this cuckoldry. I am a very good writer and got an A+ in the only creative writing class I've taken, and this is the best university in the world for creative writing. If you want to be involved in literature for your major, pick Classics or creative writing. I bet theater is pretty bad, and journalism is obviously horrible.

>>19988328
Socrates was a man. His boys would even tell you that.

>>19985270
This is the exact reason why I switched out of English after two semesters. The final straw was when they had us read some obscure contemporary Caribbean poets talking about racism in an introduction to poetry. When I asked when we would read something akin to Shakespeare, the professor (you guessed right, a woman), told me that they were trying to "cut down on dead white men." I decided that moment to drop my major.

>>19990711
I agree. My dad did a bunch of weird shit to me up until high school, and I'll take that shit to my grave. I've only ever told my therapist, I can't imagine revealing to a stranger, or even a friend.

m'lady, i urge to you to switch out of english. youll have a massive crisis like me once you sit down and say oh shit what am i actually going to do with this degree.

or maybe dont. im not sure...

>>19985771
i'm a man and i do that sometimes

>>19985270
>It makes me ashamed to be a woman.
Good thing you're not.

>>19985270
> Most people I interact with have a different opinion on what we are studying and it makes me mad. >:^(

I posted the OP picture on r/whitepeopletwitter and redditor loved it

>>19989309
Nothing to learn for attention whores, working as intended.

>>19985272
>Peasantry shouldn't be allowed to read, let alone women

>>19985270
Yeah whatever people can have opinions, if you dont think rape is kino tho u a bitch

>>19985272
I see myself as a lutheran theologically, but I kinda agree with this statement. I see the problem, that the church abused its Power, but I think the average person is just not intelligent and educated enough to correctly interpret the bible on their own or to engage in philosophical discourse. These people being sble to try that anyways, since they are able to read can't result in anything good.

However, since being able to read is so important in our society, I propose the solution of allowing people to read their own language, but making a law that any books of intellectual matter can only be written and published in latin.

>>19991595
>can only be written and published in latin
this will only ens up with mitwits kvetching abouthow they know it all better than simple christians. here in germany for example everyone which goes to uni has taken latin, with few exceptions, from 5-13 grade.

>>19991624
I'm a german who has taken latin in school himself. The solution to this? Only teach latin in university. Also make the highest school form less accesible.

>>19985272
Basado mucho

>>19985270
The only humanities that still hasn't been 100% raped by females is history and philosophy
why would you waste time studying english in 2022?

>>19991632
Sure, but you still get unbelievably many tards in university. You would need to start IQ tests as an entry requierement to uni instead of NC or just Qualifikation.

But that will never happen as our politicians want a stupid and docile mass which thinks of itself as well educated on all topics. Which is why Abitur and Quali get thrown around like participation trophies.

>>19985272
What is more saddening is college has filled to the brim with peasants

>>19985270
In all seriousness being a dude in honors English lit classes was weird, like there were only like three other guys. I was also kind of nerdy and I guess "incelish" as I was virgin at the time and mostly just creeped my female classmates out. I didn't touch creative writing for almost 20 years afterwards because the experience put me off so bad

>>19985270
This is the phenomenon called, by some, cultural Marxism, and by Harold Bloom “the school of resentment”. as this poster astutely noted >>19985329. The terrifying fact about this phenomenon, is that it has no end in sight. Whiteness and the patriarchy will never FULLY be dismantled. White men and conservatives will never FULLY stop being the oppressors, inherently privileged, backwards, and somehow uniquely blind to the special suffering of minorities. Women, the LGBTQ+ community, and BIPOC will never fully have nothing left to complain about, academics will never fully be able to stop pointing out how this or that philosopher or writer glorified in the Western canon has certain problematic patriarchal and White supremacist mindsets they exemplify in their works, and White men will never EVER be justified in thinking there’s ANY such thing as ANY types of discrimination against, dislike of, and/or institutionalized psychological emasculation of them. Any suggestion that this is so, will be weaponized against them and use to gaslight them further, even in condescending ways that make fun of them, as with accusations of “White rage,” or, as Robin DiAngelo puts it, “White fragility.” “White men just feel threatened at the new place in society previously oppressed minorities are getting — there’s no institutionalized imbalance in painting people of certain skin colors, women, and the LGBTQ+ community as always inherently oppressed, the victims, the underdogs always under threat by evil White men, and In painting White men as part of an ‘oppressor’ class who need to step aside and address their privilege and of whom only bad things can be said about what they did throughout history. No institutionalized imbalance at all.”

This mindset — of simultaneously being fragile and aggressive — is horrifying. It’s legitimately horrifying, in that’s an ideal psychological condition for totalitarian societies like Marxist ones to take form, and in that, while thinking itself to be fighting against oppression, is actually what contributes most to the creation of a totalitarian society. It’s like someone crying out in pain while they repeatedly strike out at you, and if you make a slip or move to fight back or argue against them, they will use this as further proof that you’re the bad guy.

>>19991743
This reality is so fucking depressing. Is there really no way to stop it?

>>19985270
Ohhh swa-tea u aint like the other whores .....shall i suck ur faggotty dick

>>19991743
>It’s like someone crying out in pain while they repeatedly strike out at you (...)
Yes, such a someone would indeed be a demonic anti-logos creature. I would be curious what pervious societies and cultures in human history did to end their spread?

>>19991884
De-socializing oneself and turning to genuine spirituality and philosophy is, I think, the only valid response to such a nasty and sad world. Disgust with the petty nastiness of this mindset manifesting throughout so many today in Western society, as well as horror at its source in the evil of the elites encouraging this mindset, is an understandable but self-harming response. As Nietzsche put it, “When you gaze long enough into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”

He also has a great saying, I think, but which I unfortunately forget the exact source of and how it goes, but which essentially says that the greatness of great men is not necessarily even in wanting to defeat their enemies and overcome past embarrassments (in the sense of, “You guys hated and made fun of me but look, now I’m the superior and correct one”), but in not even viewing these enemies as people worth fighting against. Or it might have been put something like choosing your battles, or something of that nature.

You can view an interesting example of this in QAnon conspiracy theorists. They ironically are overall right in that our politicians ARE something like demonic cultural Marxist Lucifer-worshiping pedophiles and that people who trust and love Democratic politicians are unaware as to the evils they’re following — where they got it wrong, of course, was messianic ideas of an (apparent) outsider to the establishment like Trump swooping in to save them, as well as the tragically naive belief that sharing information and conspiracy theories and taking a dramatic side in the ongoing “information warfare” of the modern day, and going to rallies and holding up their cute signs about how we have to “save the children,” would lead to a Great Awakening amongst the masses. Ironically, they simply turned themselves into another enemy for the mainstream media, leftist politicians, and the masses to be embarrassed for and mock, or, worst case scenario, outright demonize as domestic terrorists. The evil of the modern day is so perfectly well set-up that any dissenters to the evil are instantly disregarded as themselves evil, or simply misinformed and pitiful backwards lunatics brainwashed by “alt-right misinformation.”

>>19992388
The sad part is that even this is, in my opinion, an invalid response which creates just as much suffering, only in a different way, as the type of widespread societal suffering and evils that it was trying to put a stop to. Also, in the modern day, due to the perfection of this social engineering, even suggesting, hinting at, or being in any way associated with the solution you recommend, is, once again, the ultimate proof of one’s being an evil, despicable person to be socially maligned, mocked, punched in the face, etc. The devil’s greatest trick is convincing the world he doesn’t exist and that anyone who speaks out against him is themselves evil or simply deranged.

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Pushing internationalist feel good platitudes about race is in itself the divisional tactic here. The elite aren't telling you to be racist, they're destroying your culture and heritage using mass immigration to inject all sorts of natural cultural and ethnic divisions and fostering disunity