/lit/ - Literature

I like it when

>>19966343
big tittied goth gf when

What's your latest interest/hobby/phase?

I am a 26 year old incel. While my 22 year old younger brother has a girlfriend. I'm so envious of them.

It's not even about the sex. They're soulmates. Glued together, day and night. Watch movies, read books, travel, always together.

I will never experience this.

>>19966343
I just want to know the correct path to God. I hate all of this meaningless babble. I hate Trads who are all religion and no spirituality. I hate Liberals who try to twist it to whatever is the current social cause.

I lost my taste for appetite.

>>19966361
Just wait, you'll be a Wizard soon.

I still don’t know what I want to write.

>>19966358
I want to make my ankles incredibly strong. my goal is to hang off the bar by one foot

>>19966358
Big tittied goth gf when

Archeology is fucking stupid. I don't care about how much you have to try and cope by insisting that scandinavia went through feudalism even though it didn't to justify your retarded historiography and to own the heckin' romantacists that occupy your mind. Your endless meanderings about a bunch of fucking rocks you dug up from the ground and mounds will always be speculation, kys.

>>19966358
Shitposting on 4channel and wishing I was dead.

>>19966413
>Archeology is fucking stupid.
I disagree but do not care enough to argue or discuss the subject.

>>19966361
kill them

>>19966361
Any loser can get a gf.
You just haven't tried enough

>>19966413
Wow. Shut up. Why are you on this board, you anti-intellectual pos?
Get lost.

>>19966492
You can be wrong, it's ok
>>19966519
speculation is not intellectual at all, sorry

[controversial statement]

>>19966532
You aren’t smart. At all.

I KNOW that there are some Eldensisters here. Only three more days

>>19966552
That would make me equal to the archeologists whose book I am reading

>>19966362
Think honestly and have faith. Admire beauty.

Fear will stir in your stomach. It will vibrate to the ends of your lips and suck at your spirit. But you hold on to your mind. Don't let it move an inch from your will, no matter how strongly it whirls and calls in your stomach. Your will and nothing but your will. According to Aurelius quoting Empedocles: A sphere, a perfectly unified thing, hovering above the mire.... Sphairos.

I can hardly breed.

Should I learn French?

>>19966559
I literally just want to know about social structure and chieftainhood in viking age scandinavia and all I get is false advertisement that keeps digressing into periods after the viking age and ignore stuff like the Things and tradition, opting instead to delve into economic masturbation, divining unprovable context to the inscriptions on a handful of runestones, and explaining how the nature of lordship in denmark can be augured by the locations of buildings and design of doors ala feng shui. It's infuriating.

>>19966559
Post nose

>>19966343
the fact that men get an erection in the morning to stop themselves from pissing on themselves means that, at some point in human evolutionairy history, a non-negligible amount of men died from peeing on themselves in their sleep. my best guess is that they got hypothermia

>>19966694

>>19966712
if people died from pissing themselves, how did "evolution" select for that if the pissers were all dead and the non pissers never had the problem?

>>19966712
is that really the reason for morning boner? i doubt it

>>19966362
The Holy Bible.
Everything is in there. Hard to understand though.

>>19966555
I have come to realize that my PC is not powerful enough and that I probably won't be able to run it, even though I could run Sekiro at like mid-high settings. I might download the game and try to see how it runs. It's the only game I've been even remotely hyped for in the past years, I feel dejected.

>>19966712
Don't have morning wood.
Refuted+lamarckian

>>19966712
wrong explanation for morning wood.
risible deduction about hypothermia.

Is there amything worst(beaides extremem pain) then you realizing you failed at life due to sheer incompetence

>>19965561
Somehow...some freaking how different things/quantas exist.

That is to say, the entire universe is not composed of only electrons. Or metaphorically the same shape and size and color Lego piece.

Some how apparently fundamentally completly unique types of quanta of qualitys exist, and they are able to interact in such a way that they cohere to one another, in such a stable way, one is forced to coin the concept and term solidity.

How it is theoretically possible for energy, em radiation, whatever the heck that actually is is, to become one of these different quantas of qualities, is beyond me.

Also as far as I know from my readings it is said most electrons and quarks were made at the big bang.

Soooo who knows.


The existence of the universe is a paradox.

There is the common phrase: why is there something rather than nothing?

Once one accepts, the way things are is that, there happens to be something (and a lot of it) instead of nothing (it next follows that something must be of a type and way, it must possess the characteristics and possibilities it possesses), you must admit that it also then possible for an aspect of that something to fundamentally exist and be indivisible and have extension. Electrons, quarks,

They possibly cannot be broken down further but they are relativley stable entities.

There is no reason to posit that if something rather nothing could happen to exist, that something could only fundamentally be energy-y and not possibly stable object thingness-y.

Em radiation is bizarre, as anything else to begin with. The idea of certain very dynamic and multi faceted 'somethingness' which "cannot have it's motion stopped, wee call this energy.

And all though a moving steam of water can be stoped, we also call that energy.

But we don't say water is released from atoms in fission.

So to think that some strange, magnetic electro constantly right angle fwipping self propagating wave particle packet is the obvious intuitive primary eternal fundamental nature of nature, and not the possibility of a slowable, directable, semi stable objectness, I don't know if this is entirely fair.

The paradox is which came first chicken or the egg, matter or energy. No the paradox is if energy exists and cannot be created or destroyed this means energy must have always existed.


Historical evidence of imperfections + contemporary possibility of imperfect care, brilliance, rigor, and supreme genius lead me to strive to of any position, that of cautiously testing and checking and challenging the airtightness and soundness of all possible geusses and beliefs of data and theory and interpretation

want to quit my wagesalve job because its boring.

>>19966773
It sucks when you cant male money doing what you enjoy

>>19966780
yea, do you enjoy what you do?

>>19966745
What'e the explanation and why is the deduction bad?

>>19966783
The company is cool but my skills are trash so I just do bitch shit

>>19966362
Visit a local Catholic parish.

>>19966725
that's exactly how evolution works
the ones that died from piss didn't get to reproduce as much, so their genes were slowly taken off the gene pool

>>19966725
All men are naturally bedwetters, but the ones who had morning wood were unable to pee.

I wish I was a virgin again.

>>19966788
I do data generation for machine learning algorithms fyi

This is when your flesh
Crimson and pale
Withers behind the blackened veil
The vacant flesh
A petrifying look, the choice is easy
The outcome always the same
The shortest way to cardiac arrest
The flesh that dreams are made of doesn't last
This when you turn
To sanctimonius rituals
The duty of the beast

>>19966808
I need to stop watching porn but I get bored duuring the weekends

Have sex

>>19966725
dead men can't fuck
>>19966744
you're a genetic weakling that slipped through the cracks
>>19966745
i'm like 90% sure that's why we get morning wood

>>19966832

/lit/ is so obsessed with sex that it's hard to relate to you guys.

Any femanon wanna be my gf

>>19966545
Fuck you

>>19966715
Cute

>>19966863
Are you asexual

>>19966808
I wish I didn't get molested when I was 11 by an older girl because now I don't know if that counts. I don't want it to count because it wasn't really my choice, but on the other hand I had sex earlier than most guys and got it out of the way. Maybe I'm just spiritually a virgin.

>>19966884
Kinda. I don't think asexuality is natural for humans, but you can be asexual due to extremely low libido. I go weeks without masturbating sometimes because my sex drive doesn't exist

>>19966892
How old was the girl?

>>19966863
I've had the good fortune of never being a sex pest. I will sleep with my wife :)

>>19966863
this. incelposting is the worst part of /lit/ and yet it's about 80% of it. i'm fine with racist posting and misogynism but incel posting is worthless

>>19966909
15

>>19966868
>wanna
Not anymore

>>19966892
if you have never made a move on a woman and bedded her you are a virgin. and yes, gays are virgins

>>19966863
It's only a vocal minority. By the way: do you happen to be female?

>>19966922
Those things are literally detrimental. Posting beautiful women is harmless.

The deeply sad, unfortunate, Buddhistically humorous common occurance of the young adult, coming face to face with the worlds rules, determinations, guides, principles, restrictions; feels so strangled after the open-ended freedoms of childhood, they wrestle and writhe and spasm themselves in any direction but that well lit well trodden path of certainty, for fear of losing ones soul, to at the start have all including absolute self defined, that they make the statement infinitudes of chaos their home and credo, often tangling themselves to such a degree in their freely made mess, that the glowing pristine timeless order they first passed up now seems obviously the only real way. Understandably curiosity is, needing to know for oneself to be sure.

The vehemence of many a religion is the pressure to resist that 1st hand proof, and trust the word of those returned from hell.

>>19966983
kek nice bait

>>19966973
No. I just wish you guys actually read books. Here are some good threads
>>19950914
>>19966289
>>19935393
80% of this place is evola/nietzsche/vague philosophical navel-gazing/christianity, 10% is "tell me about this book I haven't read", 5% is jezebels, and the last 5% is actually good stuff about literature
The women aren't actually a problem. I just wish this place was better. It's only fun if you don't care about reading

The deeply sad, unfortunate, Buddhistically humorous common occurance of the young adult, coming face to face with the worlds rules, determinations, guides, principles, restrictions; feels so strangled after the open-ended freedoms of childhood, they wrestle and writhe and spasm themselves in any direction but that well lit well trodden path of certainty, for fear of losing ones soul, to at the start have all including absolute self defined, that they make the infinitudes of chaos their home and credo, often tangling themselves to such a degree in their freely made mess, that the glowing pristine timeless order they first passed up now seems obviously the only real way. Understandably curiosity is, needing to know for oneself to be sure.

The vehemence of many a religion is the pressure to resist that 1st hand proof, and trust the word of those returned from hell.

>>19966983
>Those things are literally detrimental
No they're not because 90%+ of good literature was written by white males so it has no effect on discussing good literature

>>19966358
Songwriting. To tell you the truth, I'm getting extremely pissed off at all of this, it's driving me crazy trying to write within a traditional Verse-Chorus structure.

It's like, I just completely forget how to use metaphorical/descriptive writing, and on top of that, I have to speak the fucking words. Every word that I write comes out as incoherent in the big picture and I'm awful at coming up with new lines on the spot. Anyone here been in a similar situation? I figure I have to keep at it, maybe I'll try reading/writing poetry for practice. Do you guys have any good books for poetry techniques?

>>19967029
>it's driving me crazy trying to write within a traditional Verse-Chorus structure.
You don't have to do this you know

>>19967015
Racism and misogyny are bad for growing boys heads. It make degenerates of you.

>>19967070
It worked just fine for the greatest minds of history. It's only since "anti-racism" and feminism appeared that people became degenerates and literary quality collapsed. So a mountain of evidence is going against your thesis.

>>19967054
Leave no stone unturned

twitter works well as an alternative to rss feeds

If I can just pretend, why do I ever have to stop pretending? Pre-pope Ratzinger said: Pretend that every human being is wanted and has a purpose, and when you realise how great that feels, you'll want to keep believing that, and then a priest will come and put a bible in your hand and tell you: Here, this book is about humans being wantend and having a purpose, only this time not play pretend, but for real.

If I can just pretend, why do I have to attach God to it?

>>19967086
What it worked over certainly wasn’t worth it. Hate is only breeds more hate. You openly cheer on more of it because you’re degenerate (or a damn troll). Beauty is not aligned with hatred, and that’s your problem. You’re jealous of beauty

>>19966413
Some people like it.

>>19967122
You're a seething non-white or a woman so you argue against racism because it's against your own interests, but you create a false narrative to appear moral. You're not.

>>19966666

What exactly quantifies human charisma? I listen to a passionate speech by Hitler or watch a perfectly exectued live performance by Michael Jackson and I feel the same feeling: I can't help but watch. I'm totally enchanted and can't take my ears and eyes away. Thousands of men have tried to replicate this charisma but almost all fail, even if they're talented and well-rehearsed. There seems to be a very small subset of men, perhaps less than half a dozen per generation, who can effortlessly captivate hundreds of thousands of spectators. What is it that makes them special? I know that they practice their craft but it always seems like there's more to them like that. They appear as demi-gods among men.

>>19967138
I’m pale as a ghost. I allowed know the past is past and racism sexism isn’t why literature was nice back then.
My interests are to see less hatred in the world, you degenerate boob.

>>19967149
>I allowed
I also know *

I just BTFO’d Rupi Kaur’s entire career with William S. Burroughs’ cut-up technique. What do you think /lit? Should I start publishing?

>>19967149
Racism is not hatred. It's telling by the way you structure your arguments that you are low IQ and can't possibly contribute anything to civilization. Racism is just noticing that some races are a net negative and should be given fewer rights because of it. Removing jews is prefectly reasonable for whites without any emotional ("hatred") response involved. Rejecting feminism and women's rights is also perfectly normal and in accordance with Beauty because women are supposed to be loving and devoted to their husbands, not do sex work and talk politics. Anyway, you're too retarded to understand anything so you should refrain from ever discussing things.

>>19967143
Masters of rhetoric

>>19967161
Dimwitted and false. But congratulations if you’re trolling. This is the exact same shit genuine dimwits vomit to excuse their atrocities. Of course it’s rooted in hate. Don’t be stupid.

>>19967174
You're too low IQ to have relevant thoughts on this sorry anon

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>>19967143
Look at it from the classic Rhetorical angle. They fill the exact desires of the masses in their particular time and place. I'm not an expert on pop music but Elvis would probably be easier to analyze than MJ. He was handsome, stylish, reflected classic American machismo with a bit of flair, had an extremely memorable voice, and I could go on ages. In short, he was everything people wanted. Charisma is giving people what they want.

How many colours are there in Gravity's Rainbow?

>>19967143
Read Gustave Le Bon's Crowd Psychology. He explains it well and most orators of the 20th century including Hitler were influenced by him.

>>19967209
roygbiv

Facing my social anxiety in a major way by asking a girl out tomorrow; it's a bonus if she says yes but either way it will be a win-win for me.

Wish me luck

I fucked it up again.

>>19967222
>trips
I did that in High School and shook the whole time

>>19967244
>I did that in High School and shook the whole time

Well I won't

>>19967222
good luck anon. i know it's hard but honestly it gets easier each time, not just asking girls out, but any social interaction.

>>19967182
>IQ

HAAA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>19967155
Yes, don't forget to draw pictures

Maybe you will marry her and become the ying yang first man and wife of poetry

If I concentrate on my will, I can feel it flowing out of my eyes like molten rock. I probably look like a psychopath.

>>19966712
You've never heard of spandrels have you?
>>19966973
kek
>>19967007
The Deleuze and Spinoza threads we had recently were good. I actually learned something about each.
>>19967143
Weber said Charismatic Authority is projected by the crowd onto the individual. What you're describing is more showmanship
>who can effortlessly captivate hundreds of thousands of spectators.
Very few actually get the opportunity, and I suspect that Weberian Charismatic Authority means it's only partially the showmanship of the individual but more the social consensus of the crowd.
Take Hitler, MJ, David Bowie, or Rasputin out of their respective social contexts and see how little they manage to captivate people. I'm not saying it's all the crowd. Alice Cooper cleared out rooms when (t)he(y) first started, that's why Frank Zappa signed them*. what I'm saying is that the crowd takes whatever showmanship they have and puts it to a power-law.
If you have 1 showmanship, then maybe the crowd makes it 10.
if you have 7 showmanship, then maybe the crowd makes it 140
*Alice Cooper was a band, not just the frontman originally

I feel so self absorbed, but I don't know how to stop

I just read a poem aloud, as if I were not alone but with friends, and as I read my heart began to vibrate to the rhythm and heart of the poem; and I began to cry. So this is it, huh?

>>19967365
just stop lol

>>19966743
Damn...wait for the reviews because the recommended specs are always a bit of a meme.

I think I'm just going to stop having thoughts of my own. I'll think to understand other people's thoughts but I'll never form my own opinion about anything or have any negative or positive belief.

>>19966832
>millions of internet whore photos to choose from
>chooses the one with the face of a chewed caramel
Anon, I…

>>19966936
Like you wanted to before seeing my post?

>>19967412
most pornstars have sleazebag faces so in the vast amount of it they consume their circuits become twisted to be aroused by ugliness. that combined with low testosterone and a lack of capacity for judgement and self awareness

>>19966892
Were you traumatized by it

I'm 21, currently working as a paralegal and making less than $40 bucks a month. Bear in mind inflation is running rampant in my shithole country, yet the minimun salary for living is estimated at $400.
I undestand I'm fresh out of university, however for nearly 10 hours a day, this shit is abuse. I used to make four times as much working as a bricklayer.
The plan is keep it for experience, while I find something better, but shit's draining me of my liveforce. What do you older fags suggest I do?

>>19967452
How desperate are you for the money? If money is not a problem, you could quit and do some internships instead.

>>19967452
Go back to bricklaying

>>19967479
I could get by a couple of months, but I need to work. Also my family would kick me out if I quit without a plan B. I could also go back like this anon says >>19967520 , but it's a shame finishing law school to throw away the degree.
In a month or two, I'll get to swear an oath and become a fully-fledged lawyear. I guess that could open some new doors. Or rather I wish it does

Is talking about God breaking the fourth wall?

>>19967593
Depends on the production team.

where do you write, /lit/? anywhere? do you have a specific place where you feel more comfortable writing? is it private?

lately i feel like i can't write at home. i have to go sit in a public park or a library

>>19967593
no because God isn't outside reality. nothing is outside reality. If something were outside reality, but it can affect reality, then it would be inside reality.

>>19967642
I write on the back of people on the bus - It's Sweden, so they just take it.

I literally don't know what's on my mind. I can tell I'm definitely thinking something. But everything is primal. I'm getting hints of some kind of... something has entered my psyche that wasn't there before and I don't know what its name is. I always can feel modes of thought as locations in my brain. Sometimes I may feel like something is "stopped up" inside the blackness of my head, or that the blackness of my head is empty, or that... when I am trying to think of something and failing, I feel a pent up force in my head probably around where the brain stem is. But right now I feel like there is something there, a new feeling. And it's been there for a few days. But it's not just in my head... it wants to emanate outward. I can feel it is going to express itself in my outward life any moment. It's bursting out the seams. It's subtly taking control of me. But I don't know what it is.

I can't stop seething about all the years I've spent in alienation. Its ruining my health.

my brain has been balkanized

>>19967695
has it now?

/lit/ is the void I'm screaming into it

Thank you anon who posted that old trance song "The Age of Love" a few threads ago. I have been enjoying it ever since. If you see this please post more early trance music.

>>19967719
Frogs be gone

Whenever I make eye contact with someone, they always think I’m flirting.

>>19967719
Post it.
Been into “psy” techno lately. This one guy named In’R’Voice is great

Write what's in your mind.

>>19967746
>"Age of Love is both the first AND the best trance song of all time. It was only downwards from there." -Anon
https://youtu.be/30eXKMfrVcw

>>19967757
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jfc it feels like a horny circuit has been set off in my brain and ive been drained of my discipline and motivation...

I wanna write a book called "The Chain Merichter Dyes", a play on words of "The Main Character Dies" and have the plot have him die several times, subverting the expectation of people who only expected him to die the one time at maybe the end of the book or something (only if they pick up on the worldplay).

The plot could be about some sort of dye in a fantasy setting with whatever use that makes it most interesting. Maybe grants special powers or unlocks a 4th dimension that cant be seen without the dye or a proper mix of the dyes.

The last book could be titled "The Chain Merichter Dyes: At the End" where the MC actually ends up passing away but ultimately achieving the goal of the good guys. Any thoughts? Kind of a meme but thought it was fun haha.

>>19967758
Thanks for this. I’m sure I must have heard this before. Giving me nostalgia vibes.
Here’s a tune I heard once in ‘95 and couldn’t track down again for like ten, eleven years
https://youtu.be/WUnq-_Kb1VY

>>19967774
Wanna jack each other off? We can wear blindfolds so it isn't gay

Theres this super sexy goth-alt girl who works at a local fast food chain. Ive been going there for years just to look at her.

>>19967834
She’s worked there for years?

Tell her you can rescue her from her greasy dungeon and support her in your studio apartment if she only gave you the chance to worship at her fishnet shocking feet

>>19967847
She's no older than 20 anon. Its just her teen job she works through college. Besides I still live with my parents and havent spoken to a female since 2016

>>19967858
You know what you have to do now.

>>19967872
Suicide?

>>19967874
No.
You have to pull yourself up. Eat right and exercise. Make goals, make friends, and sweet talk her. If she rejects or says she’s got a bf, whatever, you tried, move onto the next lovely. There’s more where she came from.
I’m not the anon that tells people to kys, I posted this the other day
https://youtu.be/TVgQ_tgWMyU
Might be of some help

>>19967887
I am in good physical shape and have friends. Otherwise I'm a loser trapped in a dead end job and have crippling anxiety around females

>>19966343
I decided finally to an hero and plan's in place, didn't figure now it's so certain what I would think about, have this absolute, spiritual, core feeling that all I am is teeth and pipeline from mouth to stomach flesh factory for fucking with the soft pink folds between the ears being nothing but an over-evolved driver of the consumption engine. I also believe love as a force is real, so go figure. In a strange place.

>>19967918
>crippling anxiety
Watch video. Break out of that shell and live a little.

>>19967983
This light is coming from someone’s anus, isn’t it?

>>19967989
>isn't it?
isn't it?

>>19967985
Yeah I'm 20 minutes into it. Interesting intro. Shame the audience isnt taking his jokes but I'm impressed at how he roles with it.

>>19967989
No anon. The light is going into the anus

We used to take a stroll together.
We used to take a stroll together all over Pompeya. Passed through San Juan and Boedo once. It made me happy, even if I wasn't paying attention.

You used to take a stroll alone. With friends, boyfriends and lovers.

I never took a stroll. The big city was alien to me, and it made me feel scared.

We used to take a stroll together.
But we don't take strolls anymore.

i called it "Dried Leaves"
fml

We used to take a stroll together.
We used to take a stroll together all over Pompeya. Passed through San Juan and Boedo once. It made me happy, even if I wasn't paying attention.
We used to take a stroll together. Through Parque Centenario and Rivadavia.

You used to take a stroll alone. With friends, boyfriends and lovers, too.

I never took a stroll by myself. The big city was alien to me, and it made me feel scared.

We used to take a stroll together.
But we don't take strolls anymore.

i called it "Dried Leaves"
fml

Imperative Mode usually is the person with power issuing a command. Whereas when you don't have the power it's an interrogative, interrogatives are often suggestions rather than commands.
>Pass the ketchup here
>Could you pass the ketchup to me?
There are of course exceptions, the polite interrogative can be implicitly a sign of distinction and 'good manners' indicative of higher social standing.
The question about ketchup is leaving open the possibility of denial, which is a curious thing if you have the power, since it's known that your request will not be denied.
However one of the most interesting is the exclamation. A young girl yells out one word
>Bunny!
It's actually an imperative, "(look at the) bunny!"
When you yell out
>Car!
The full imperative is - "get out of the way of the car."
The exclamation is of course a matter of urgency. And it is interesting how someone will subvert the inherent power dynamics when a situation is urgent enough. Most obviously with
>Don't touch me!
>Go Away!
Women tend to often phrase commands as questions
>Do you like this episode?
What she's really saying is
>Let's watch something else
It's interesting how the older you get the more people hide behind these theatrics. Such as when without prompting one asks
>Do you want to to pass me the ketchup?
The implication of motivation "do you want to" is obviously false, not in the sense that they don't want to pass the ketchup, but in the sense that they didn't think of it. It's similar to the self-refuting question "Are you awake?" - pure theatrics. We just accept it, we pass the ketchup, because it's a polite gesture even though we both know that up until that point there was no preexisting desire to pass the ketchup anymore than I was still asleep before you roused me from my slumber by asking "Are you awake?"

Today is the first day that I've felt normal in like 3 months maybe more.

>>19968083
>The implication of motivation "do you want to" is obviously false, not in the sense that they don't want to pass the ketchup, but in the sense that they didn't think of it.
My boss does this all the time. When ever he gives me a task he phrases it as a question.
>do you want to start the drywall?
>You can start cutting the wood if you want
He has a good sense of humor so I'm wondering what he would do if I said no.

>>19968083
I just realized an even weirder one, the sarcastic interrogative
>Do you mind?
>Can you not?
>Is that really necessary?
the tone of voice subverts any decorum that the use of the interrogative creates, yet it's so common
>>19968098
I imagine that he's heard "Nah not really" before. He has to have had an apprentice or someone who has tried to be a smartass before

>>19968083
Based. Now talk about the subjunctive.

>>19968112
If only it were that easy

>>19968142
I see what you did there.

>>19968112
I'm not smart enough to know about that one, but what interests me more about the Imperative/Interrogative is the implication of power roles.
In a similar vein both Chirs Voss who wrote that pop-psych book on negotiation, and Social Psychologist James Pennebaker notices that first-person pronoun use reflects agency. The most obvious example is the 'Royal We'.

>>19967029
Stop worrying about what the words mean and focus on how they sound instead.
I don't like songs where the lyrics are an obvious clear-cut allegory for something, they always seem so shallow once I've "figured them out." It's better to be abstract and poetic.

thief gold
https://youtu.be/zzhNvxcEWAE

>>19967248
Yeah I know, my social anxiety is a lot better than it used to be but there is still work to be done especially when it comes to taking initiative.

I'd like to have a girlfriend and it is a step I must take moving forward or else I won't meet anybody that really interest me. I have dated/talked to girls before, just a limited number and it didn't work out. I'm getting tired of being single so I need to start actively chasing instead of waiting for someone to just fall in my lap.

But that means facing my anxiety; which I feel it's a good thing at the end of the day

I just spent my entire 3-day weekend doing nothing of value. I got black out drunk twice, played hours of paradox games, shitposted on here for hours, etc. Tomorrow I'll wake up and log onto my office job that I don't care for, probably do nothing of note there besides move some numbers around an excel sheet. They'll tell me good job, I'm really smart. I'll feel like I've accomplished nothing. After work I'll go to the gym, spend a few hours shitposting, read before bed, then start it all again. Until the weekend, where I'll get blackout drunk, wake up in the afternoon, play video games and do nothing of value. And repeat.

I'm not depressed, I feel I've grown out of that. I more feel...disinterested. Life just seems so boring and monotonous. I don't find my job compelling, video games don't really make me happy anymore, I can go on vacation for a weekend or even a week but I'll just have to come back to this all again. I feel like I have all of this energy, all of this time, and nothing to pour it into. I've never had a gf and I don't really have any hobbies that I can just sit down and spend hours doing. What do people spend their time doing? How do you find something to look forward to getting better at? I feel like I have no skills, I don't know how to do anything. I work a fake job, play fake games, cum to fake girls. I don't feel much connection to anything really.

>>19966361
Dont worry itll only get worse from here kid

>>19966343
my cock has been balkanized

My Gaul has been Romanised

>>19966343
my liver has been maltinized

My kids have been mongrelized

Time is warping as im turning 29, 27 feels like so long ago yet it was just 2 years

The way I measure time is forcibly being tested
2 years since covid = sounds unreal
2 years since 27 = sounds like not that bad
but,
27 is still twenties. very much it is one of THE twenties ages.
Yet 29. That's one of the last numbers to fall within the twenties. its actually more in the thirties.

I think I have been a child for way too long
And now the numbers and how they feel are determining whether I am a child or I am an adult now
It's painfully simple. All of the complex thoughts i had before in my early twenties just fell somewhere. they might not even be there anymore if i look, only the vague imprint on the sands of time.

now i become 30 and starting to look like it. i dont know if any of this matters. i dont know how to frame my life in time.

but one things for sure. some time ago i was a child. now i am a man. I have God to thank.

>>19966712
morning wood is because the blood stirs when the body rises you dummy retard nigger

>>19966358
pottery

>>19968681
Maybe if we had a Base-12 numeric system you'd think of it differently.

>>19968711
id like it because then id still be in my 'mid-twenties' which i very much feel like.

>>19968423
i believe in you anon!

i got my first real girlfriend late last year. we only dated for a couple of months, and it yeah it really hurt when we broke up. but it still gave me the confidence to try again. just knowing that somebody wanted to be with me, even for a little while, was a great feeling.

i wish you all the best anon :)

>>19968681
I feel you, I am also 29. It feels like this year officially I am old.

>>19966358
~1 year expanding music taste going through lists, every genre, thousands of albums, several hours every day

How do I ask a girl out? Where do I even begin?

>>19968778
>hey you wanna get coffee some time?
that's it, it's that easy

The concept of kindergarten was created by a man named Friedrich Fröbel. He also developed educational toys known as Froebel gifts. He had a remarkable birth, according to his father's diary Mein Tagebuch meines Lebens, in the hospital Fröbel "burst with tremendous force from [his mother's] stomach like a goblin" rather than her womb causing his mother's death in the process.

>>19968793
Bitch was in his way

>>19968778
You just ask. If you think that doesn’t sound right it’s because you know she will probably say no and there’s no way around that

>Putin-san dragging the world into utter shit on my birthday

t-thanks I guess

>>19968747
did this for like 3 years. eventually you will realize how much shit you were just forcing yourself to enjoy and then you will develop your true taste.

I can sense the tinges of jealousy, and I recognize them for what they are. But still...hurts pretty deep to see someone get words that you long to hear. Like "how did I get so lucky to have you".

Like I know I'm conceded a bit for even wanting to hear that. It's surely not why I do what I do. But it's something that is said that then brings to mind how nice it would be for this person to feel that way about me.

I dunno. Guy's like acknowledgment and compliments. And I'm tired of acting like we don't. Doesn't mean we do what we do for it. It's just nice.

all insanity is
A surfacing
untended wound
of being handled like a doll
you can drown it again
but it will rot
and poison your well

>>19968778
If you've been talking to her for a while you should have some inkling about her interests and should be able to suggest an activity you can do that aligns with her interests.
>>19968789
>some time?
This never works.
Ideally you say:
>Do you want to meet at Fabrizio's on Tuesday afternoon for coffee?
This means that she won't give you a "soft no". If she wants to meet up with you but literally is busy on Tuesday afternoon she'll suggest drinks in the evening, or Thursday afternoon etc. If she doesn't want to meet with you she'll be non-committal, so you put forward two alternatives.

>>19968827
It would be unnatural for any human being to not want to hear those words.
It is however, dangerous to want to hear them from a specific person.

>>19968826
True personal taste can only form after you‘ve left giving a shit about other people‘s opinions on things far behind. Once you do you‘ll realize how disgusting it was to try to mold your own taste after someone else‘s just because somebody somewhere deemed their taste superior for arbitrary reasons.

I wonder if they could make video without exterior intervention prior to electronics (no motorised film cameras nor flipbooks by hand), like how emulsion develops paper laced with silver nitrate into a photograph.
Maybe this is a question for /sci/...

>>19968837
>This never works.
has literally worked 100% of the time for me. sorry you're not attractive

>>19968778
You don‘t. If you have to be brave to ask someone out it means your relationship isn‘t at the right point yet to take it a step further. Fear is a warning sign to not proceed or you’ll get injured. If you ignore the warnings, don‘t be surprised if you wake up in pain.

>>19968859
How many times did you do it and how many times did it work?

>>19968866
like 5 or 6

>>19968868
And how many times did this approach result in a happy, healthy relationship?

>>19968837
>>19968861
I mean, I've never talked to her but I've seen her around. I thought the first step in getting a GF was always to just approach them and ask them out. And then there the both of you can get to know each other.

>>19968873
none

>>19968876
So, it never actually worked. It‘s pretty embarrassing that for you „it worked“ means you managed to fuck her.

>>19968875
Sure. If your interest is in her as an object observed from afar, so you can better project your fantasies upon her and not in her as an actual person you want to get to know better.

>>19968886
i mean it doesn't strictly mean sex, i had a real relationship with all of them. they just weren't good relationships.
when's the last time you had a happy, healthy relationship?

>>19968844
Yeah, I know what you are saying. I guess it's just specific person saying it to someone else brings attention to the mind that it's something you'd like them to say to you.

But it's something that if one had to demand our course out of someone, it wouldn't mean squat.

>>19968889
I'm guilty of that definitely, but I don't know where you gathered it from what I said. I've genuinely always thought that this is how it goes:

>You approach her
>Maybe chat a bit or more (depending how well you mesh)
>Ask her out if you think she's interesting or good for you.

How does it work then, anon?

>>19968896
I dare to believe that the fact those relationships started how they did was a big indicator that they won‘t, can’t work.

I am in one right now.

>>19968902
That sounds good on paper but is it a cold approach or do you have something in common to start a conversation?

>>19968899
>But it's something that if one had to demand our course out of someone, it wouldn't mean squat.
Absolutely, yes. If it isn‘t said freely and authentically it‘s meaningless.

I get how tempting it is to want to hear a specific person say it to you. It sounds like this is about someone you like but is in a relationship with someone else. Now the question is, do you just glorify them from a distance and imagine that you two could achieve heaven on earth if only they would chose you to tell those thing to or do you genuinely believe that you two would be a better match? Because either is a real possibility.

>>19968909
you do remember that the start of this convo was just the distinction between "wanna get coffee some time" and "wanna get coffee on x date at x time"?
that's not a big enough difference to affect the overall trajectory of a relationship

And I dunno.I wouldn't say it's so wrong to want to hear those words from a specific person. When you feel that way about said person yourself. Demanding or expecting, sure. That's dangerous and wrong. But to want? Nah.

As said, it's not the main drive or anything behind any action. It's just something that when seen said, it brings attention to a want or desire.

>>19968917
Well it's usually cold approaches for me. But if I do know me and a girl have something in common I'll prolly use that as a starter. Then if I like her I'll just do above. The problem, though, is that I don't really know much girls.

>>19968922
It's actually wasn't even someone they are in a relationship with. Nor do I think it could be a case of developing into one. I don't know if that's a kicker or not.

It's just someone doing something for this person and this person acknowledging it over actions of my own that have been ongoing. Mind you, these actions aren't done for this intent. It's just seeing them expressed to someone that does this one thing, brings to the mind that it's something that a part of me would like to hear.

I personally think this person and I are a perfect match. They certainly have a positive influence on me and someone I would like to take the world on with. But free will is a thing and it is respected. I'm not going to manipulate or shove my way into anyone's life that doesn't want me there. The least of which someone I hold in high regard.

I guess I was just lamenting over circumstances beyond my control. How someone can come in two days late to a birthday greeting and get a positive response while one pours their heart out on the exact hour up until a couple days later and doesn't even get a nod.

I know it's petty and it's not why I do it. But still fucking sucks.

big dicks will rule the world

>>19968902
I gathered it because it is very obvious from the fact you consider it your only option to do a cold approach. How could a burning fire of love and desire ever emerge from something called a cold approach? It is called that because it only works between people who are already dead and cold and can only interact as an object and by treating others as objects to acquire.
The only same way to create a true bond of intimacy is to see her as a sentient human being that you can not „catch“ or manipulate. Well, you might be able to do that, depending on how unhealthy she is, but it will never result in a relationship as you dream of. Unless you dream of a relationship with a mute sex doll. In which case you might want to take a big step back before interacting with any human being again and sort that shit out. This is usually the fantasy of people who have learned that the only way they can hope to ever get their needs met is by forcing or manipulating others into giving them what they want. The issue with this is that you can trick someone into fucking you, marrying you, bearing your children and saying all the right things but you can not ever manipulate someone into truly loving you. You can manipulate them to adore or glorify an act you‘ve put on, sure. But that will not make you feel loved. It might make you feel powerful and desired but it will not make the loneliness go away. The only way to scratch that itch of wanting to feel loved truly for who you are is to get to the point of being able to love others for who they truly are too. And so before you can love them, you first have to know who they are, truly, honestly, authentically, underneath the circus they put on for the world. And you don‘t set s good tone for someone to be able to drop their masks and show you their real self by cold approaching them because that is the first time you would tell them „i saw the show you‘re putting on for the world and i like what i saw“. This will make it even harder for them to ever truly be themselves around you because they know you „fell in love“ with their mask, not them how they are when they are alone. You would need to be able to be the friend that they can let down all their guards and then show them that what was underneath is what you do love unconditional. Because if you do some introspection, you’ll realize that feeling like you’re loved unconditionally after having dropped all your defenses is the only possible way to not feel alone in this world anymore. Everything else is nothing but smoke and will leave both of you lonelier and more bitter about love than ever before.

>>19968944
>How someone can come in two days late to a birthday greeting and get a positive response while one pours their heart out on the exact hour up until a couple days later and doesn't even get a nod.
That sounds really specific what happened, anon?

Living with a stranger is weird because you suddenly become hyper aware of how you present to others even in your private moments. When you live family, a friend, or a girlfriend they know you intimately enough that they've at least seen some private side of you. Of course, those living arrangements don't always work out and when a couple move in together it's often the end of the relationship. But my point is that moving in with a complete stranger really forces you to wonder how the fuck must I appear from another person's perspective?

>>19968927
I agree that the idea of proposing a clear date and time is a good way to find out if they are genuinely interested or not. But i also am saying that if you need tricks like that to know then that‘s a sign of doom right there.

>>19968965
But I was the "sometime" guy

>>19968964
Thats why I dont want to become a rentcuck.

>>19968958
I mean, it is a few specific things/people that brought this on. None of which are even seen as people that would form a relationship in the way I want to with this person. It simply boils down to putting my heart into what I do and not feeling seen.

I doubt it's intentional. It's just the thought that I'm not even seen in the first place. Probably would be better to know it was intentional in a way. If that makes sense.

>>19968944
That sounds like the person in question isn‘t ready yet for true connection. Which is not your fault at all. You tried to establish a real connection by being authentic and they disregarded your offer and instead went for a person who treats them like shit. People always go for the people who treat them like they treat themselves because it is what feels right and true and familiar. Imagine if you‘re used to treating yourself like shit. Everyone coming your way who doesn‘t treat you like shit either will feel like they are playing you to manipulate you because deep down you believe that the only thing you deserve is being treated like shit. Otherwise you wouldn‘t treat yourself that way.
The only way i can still see is for you to be an example of how one can treat oneself and others not like shit. In time, they will flock to you because what is injured desperately wants to heal. But that can only happen if you yourself are whole enough to treat yourself with dignity, respect, understanding and love.

I want to love life again.

>>19968970
And you turned that into the „saturday, 6pm“-guy with that approach?
Good for you. But i think the change wasn‘t so much that you started to just utter different words, it probably was more you realizing that you‘re worth a „yes, i‘d love to“ not a „yeah maybe sometimes but i‘m busy right now“. So the more important ingredient is recovering your self worth, not exact phrasing. Although this is an attempt to rephrase something as if it was said by someone who knows their own worth. It‘s a bit of fake it till you make it.

>>19968964
I've lived with my brother for the last four years or so and I can say that even with him, I don't act as I would naturally. There's always a part of me that is cautious about sending voice messages, randomly singing or acting a fool, and what have you. Knowing that they are just a room over and can hear it all.

It's really bad on acid/shrooms. If certain people are around, I feel caged in my own room due to fear of being judged.

Probably some deep seeded issues there I should probably work out.

>>19968991
That‘s only possible if you learn how to be amazed by yourself again.

Non-human amphibians

>>19968859
Nah it's obvious you're lying. But aside from that, if it only works on super attractive chads then it's bad advice.
Like I said, you have to avoid the 'soft no' you're inviting the 'soft no'
>>19968868
You're only asked 6 women out, like ever!?
Who are you to give advice?!
>>19968965
I disagree, I think it's just a product of gender roles where women more-often-than-not assume a passive stance in time-management and organizing activities.

>>19968996
Yeah. The issue of thinking that your authenticity would make belonging impossible because that‘s what you have experienced until now. You need better people around you. Yes, that even applies to your brother.

>>19968987
I feel you. I tend to probably be over considerate of other people's perspectives to the point that I have felt the need to defend myself against someone's perceived perception (I know it's crazy and have since stopped doing so to the best of my ability).

You are right, the only way is to keep being authentic. It just sucks. In this instance I don't think it's even this person gravitating toward those that treat them like shit. It's just that my actions go unnoticed while other's don't. And that could be a multitude of reasonings that would be unfair to this person for me to speculate on without knowing.

I guess all I was saying is, shit sucks.

>>19968998
I'm constantly amazed by books

>>19969006
I feel and understand what you are saying. But I have to take credit for it partly being due to be being neurotic about it. Meaning that I simply think it's something that needs reigned in rather than that being the case.

>>19969005
Believe me, if a woman is unrestrictedly interested, she‘ll turn into a time managing and organizing fairy over night. Hesitance and passiveness is always for a reason. The reason being that she‘s not sure yet if you two are a good match. Meaning she doesn‘t know you well enough yet to not have any fear of you turning out to be someone she can‘t be herself around. And yes, i‘m aware that there‘s women around who truly do measure their „interest“ in a man in terms of how much money he earns, what care he drives and what not. Those are the ones who see men as objects to be used and exploited. Those are also the ones who see themselves as objects to be put under plastic surgery and to wear what‘s fashionable and hide behind tons of makeup instead of being their true self. Relatio ships between people like that will always turn out very ugly and painful. The only way to not get caught up in it is to not play this stupid game. If you ever thought you had to earn more money or go to the gym or buy a better appartment to attract a worthy woman, you are playing this stupid game of object fucks object and it is mo wonder you would end up bitter and lonely. In a world where you assume everyone else is soulless, your own soul dies too.

>>19968957
This reminds me of my old self. But I, suppose, that my failures have led me to become a bit more cynical about love and these matters. Not entirely cynical since I'm still rather idealistic, but a growing pit of cynicism.

>And you don't set a good tone for someone to be able to drop their masks and show you their real self by cold approaching them because that is the first time you would tell them "I saw the show you're putting on for the world and I like what I saw."
For me I thought the opposite, moreso that the closer the both of you get the more willing she would be in dropping her "mask", so to speak. Like, obviously, she won't express herself all to a stranger but I believe that she would show off more of her buried self as the both of you become closer to one another.

>You would need to be able to be the friend that they can let down all their guards and then show them that what was underneath is what you do love unconditional.
I feel as though that may just lead to me being friend-zoned by her.

>>19969022
Why? Do you think the people who wrote them are more worthy of being seen as amazing master minds than you are?

>>19969038
yes

>>19969032
>In a world where you assume everyone else is soulless, your own soul dies too.
Damn bro, right in the feels...

I wish I could read

Finding it increasingly hard to summon the effort to even pretend to care about other people. I had a date last night that I aborted midway because as the girl was telling me about herself I had this overwhelming yell "who gives a fuck" at here, which I didn't because it wouldn't be fair to punish her for what is clearly some personal dysfunction of my own. We even had similar interests, but they ceased to be interesting when coming from another person, so I went home and looked at wood cuttings of Landsknecht.

>>19969032
> In a world where you assume everyone else is soulless, your own soul dies too.
Wtf word salad is this!?
>Hesitance and passiveness is always for a reason. The reason being that she‘s not sure yet if you two are a good match.
That doesn't match up with my experience. My first girlfriend explicitly told me she wanted me to be more 'dominant' - i.e. suggest activities to her, make appointments.
I've also found that early enthusiasm, that is before a date, is no indication of long term attraction. Women who were quick to suggest places to go were done with me instantly.
Hesitance can stem from anxiety which can be because of attraction. Not in all cases, but to discount that is just wrong.
>And yes, i‘m aware that there‘s women around who truly do measure their „interest“ in a man in terms of how much money he earns, what care he drives and what not.
Why are you bringing this up at all?
>he only way to not get caught up in it is to not play this stupid game.
Then you will never be in a relationship because that's the game, the only way not to play is to be single. Having said that it's obvious you're an ESL so it could quite simply be different cultural conventions

>>19969037
You‘re right that it takes time to establish the intimacy to drop the masks. But if your first approach to her is not „i want to know more about who you really are because the glimpses of your true self i already saw are fascinating me“ but „i am interested in you sexually“, it might end up doing the opposite. It‘s true that it is difficult to approach someone from the opposite gender without making them feel like you already singled them out as the object of your sexual desires, not because you necessarily did but because that is what normally happened so it is often assumed. The best approach by far is to get to know each other better in a setting that doesn‘t imply sexual or romantic interest at first because ideally, that is something that grows as you get to know each other, not something you feel from a distance for a person you don‘t even know that much about who they are authentically. Imagine someone falling in „love“ with you because they follow you on social media where you post carefully curated glimpses of your life. Does that feel like it‘s actually about you or would that just make you feel exhausted because going on a date with them would mean you had to keep up the show for 3h straight? If you posted a gym picture of you all buffed up and someone sent you a text about how they want you to fuck their brains out, sure it might feel validating but it would also make you feel like in a relationship with that person you couldn‘t ever not be physically perfect or you‘d lose their sexual interest. It would feel like it wasn‘t YOU that awoke their sexual appetite but your body. And yes, your body is a part of you but not all you are. If romantic and sexual interest is already implied before knowing someone truly, it will always have a sour after taste of „this isn‘t about me, this is about the curated version of me or their projections on me“. It‘s as if you‘re interested in someone because they are asian and you‘ve come to associate asian women with being docile, domestic and submissive and you‘d like that in a partner. So you go after asian girls because you project that fantasy on them, completely ignoring that they are an actual person who might or might not be any of those things.
>friendzoned
So what? Being friendzoned only means that this person feels like she now knows you well enough to enjoy your company but that she doesn‘t feel like you‘d be a good romantic or sexual match. It‘s never a matter of „she forgot about you“, it‘s a matter of „she doesn‘t feel like she would want to be in a romantic or sexual relationship with you“ and that‘s never without reason. It usually is either because something about you makes her feel like she couldn‘t be her authentic romantic or sexual self with you or she is still stuck in the „i am only worthy of being
treated like shit“ hole and that‘s none of your fault but rather sad.

>>19969073
And here we have a sad case of anon only going on dates to get to the „good parts“ asap, not wanting to be confronted with an individual that is an actual person with interests and idea but hoping she‘d either just got on with dropping to her knees and guzzling his cum or begging him to impregnate her so she can bear him strong sons because he is the only one she deems worthy to fill her womb.

>>19969090
Yes

>>19969099
Then crying in his unfurnished „ascetic“ apartment because he‘s suicidal that the master race hasn‘t risen up to power again yet.

I love movies about dancing. The characters always look so happy and liberated. I would like to learn to dance. But I don't like people looking at me.

>>19969090
And here we have the a sad case of anon desperately trying to create complete psych profiles of other anons because getting people "pegged" is the only way to recreate the sensation of his mother telling him what a bright boy he was when he was a child, before he became her greatest disappointment.

>>19969111
Then dance in your room?

>>19969111
Checked.

Which is your favourite Step Up movie?

>>19969112
Touched a nerv?

>>19969073
>which I didn't because it wouldn't be fair to punish her for what is clearly some personal dysfunction of my own
I say this as a compliment. I find it interesting that you have gotten to a point of not caring, and yet still have the self-awareness to realize that it's a you problem she'd done nothing to provoke a negative response.
When do you think you started emotionally checking out with other people? Has anything in particular changed in your life? Or has it been slow and seeping in?

>>19969118
NTA, but I keep forgetting this is an option.
I just wish there was a type of dancing that interested me enough aesthetically to pursue

There aren’t any cute twinks anymore. They all aged out of it or transitioned :(

>>19969111
What about Just Dance, anon?

>>19969124
How about you don‘t give a fuck about the aesthetics and just dance however you want to? I

>>19969118
My room isn't very big...
>>19969119
I think I only saw the first one.
>>19969124
What about ballet?

>>19969152
Then dance in whatever space you have in your room. Or go into the forrest to a secluded place with headphones. Or do it like everyone else, go to a party and get high enough to forget tp care about what others think and dance anyways.

>>19969151
That's a great question and I have a series of interrelated legitimate answers but you'd just say "nice blog post fag"
>>19969152
>What about ballet?
Seems too difficult to learn on my own, in my room.

>>19969170
I‘ve never said that and i don‘t plan on starting to say that any time soon. I‘d read your blog post if you feel like typing it out.

>>19969078
>So what? Being friendzoned only means that this person feels like she now knows you well enough to enjoy your company but that she doesn‘t feel like you‘d be a good romantic or sexual match. It‘s never a matter of „she forgot about you“, it‘s a matter of „she doesn‘t feel like she would want to be in a romantic or sexual relationship with you“ and that‘s never without reason.
But then I feel like that ruins the whole purpose of it. Since in that case it'd be too awkward to have her as a friend now or it'd be redundant since I have male friends who I can relate to more. It would have been a complete waste of time and effort.

>>19969178
You better not be playing the long-con anon.
Your question was why don't I just dance however I want to, and the answer is there's three things that attract me to dance: 1. the formal aspects of body language, posing, position in space, rhythm, 2. off branching from the formal: there is the aesthetic, 3. physical fitness. And yes, impressing the opposite sex would be nice too. So dancing however I want would need to be something that interests me in the formalist sense and be aesthetically pleasing to look at. I have no real interest in just 'dancing the way I feel', because... well... I just don't feel like it? If I spontaneously start moving to Black Sabbath, it's gonna happen. However to take up dance as a study, as a habit or routine, something to be over a number of months or even years be developed there needs to be a motive, and for me those motives are the three I listed.
The flip side of that is to find a type of dancing that interests me formalistically, promotes physical health, and is nice to look at.
My formal interest is part of my larger interest in pantomime and affordances. Harpo, Buster Keaton, Jacques Tati. These guys had a dancerly like quality about them. But also an interest in music

>>19969195
Yeah. Which is proof that you‘re not interested in her as an actual human being but in your fantasy of her being the one who can satisfy your unfulfilled romantic and sexual desired. If it was about her, you‘d want to get to know her deeper no matter what will come of it.
Think about it. If someone wanted to be with you 24/7 but only if you told them i love you or help them get off, would that feel like they truly wanted to spend time with you for you or only because they hoped you‘d be a good one to use to get their needs met? If you‘re afraid of ending up „only being her friend“, you‘re just seeing her as an interchangeable female being who you hope makes you feel loved and achieve good orgasms since you’d not be interested in her if she wouldn’t feel like doing those things to or with you. It was never about her as an individual but her as a means to an end.

>>19969200
I see.
And i think i understand. In this case, yes, just dancing for the sake of dancing won‘t be satisfying. It seems like you‘re seeking a contained and clearly structured form of expression. Maybe formal forms of writing poetry might scratch that itch a bit too?
It also does seem like ballet might be a good fit since it is very rigid concerning form but used to be emotionally expressive all whilst being very aesthetically pleasing and improving one‘s fitness and physique. What makes you think you can‘t at least give it a try even alone in your room? The basics are very basic and don‘t need a lot of room.
Just a tutorial and a full length mirror. Is it an issue of it seeming impossible or is it more a feeling of it not being exactly what you‘re looking for?

>>19969224
>It seems like you‘re seeking a contained and clearly structured form of expression.
No not really, I'm attracted to dancing precisely because it is the mixture of musicality and posing. Rhythm and Body Language. I'd love to have the control over my body to do stuff like Jacques Tati did, but at the same time I'm very interested in the idea of movement. I find Toni Basil describing how street and hip-hop dancing came about fascinating because she said so much of it was pantomime and literal communication, gesturing getting a drink before they left the dance-circle to go to the bar sort of thing.
>What makes you think you can‘t at least give it a try even alone in your room?
I don't have a barre in my room is the main thing. I also suspect being so rigid it requires a level of one-on-one instruction that a tutorial can't provide.
>Maybe formal forms of writing poetry might scratch that itch a bit too?
Again, my interest in visual and rhythmic. Abstract film. Animation. Percussion. Stage and Screen Acting could all scratch the itch but not poetry.

>>19969241
>>19969224
but having said that I recently tried some writing exercises which were attempts at what I might called 'poetic-montages'. The idea was to write action verbs that called to mind a sequence of shots
>he darted over, dashed past, raced under, and ran across
they make no sense because they are without context but I was trying to think of more ways I could evoke visual rhythms or right 'pantomime' on the page. It's great if you can get some euphony going too

>>19969263
>right
*write 'pantomime'

no matter how much i love someone and how much i try i feel as if i will always let them down

auto-noko killed 4chan. prove me wrong

Things will be better next month....

I just realized that "real eyes realize real lies" is a sentence on its own with actual meaning.

Your future wife is probably getting dicked down right now

>>19969483
>real lies
Nup? That's a gemminated aveolar fricative right there.

>>19969483
You’re a sentence on its own with actual meaning

Slowly rotting... slowly eroding.

>>19969489
>mfw my future husband wife is probably getting dicked down right now

>>19969489
My future wife hasn't been born yet

>>19969512
THIS

I'll have to teach my future wife English

>>19969489
my future wife could do better than me 2bh

>>19969522
I would make the effort to learn my future wife's language.

Unless it's Thai because that looks too hard.

>>19966343
An Olympus Mons-sized mountain made from the bones of wretched undesirables, with me standing atop the apex, enormous swinging dick in hand.
Yeah, baby.

The date is 02/22/2022, one of those rare celestial conjunctions in which schizo energy waxes highest.

I'll have to teach my future husband Spanish.
ugh

I'll have to teach my future husband how to have sex.
ugh

>>19969568
Kek, probably. 30% of young males don’t fuck at all and 50% only get the occasional treat for simping.

My future wife is still married and it's still a few years before she'll be able to pass on the citizenship.

my soulmate was born in the andromeda galaxy :(

my future husband is a non sparkly vampire

My future son better behave

In my future life I wanna be a racecar

>>19969522
I have to teach my future husband how to be a decent human being. Since that‘s impossible i‘d rather not have a husband.

>>19969621
I want to ride you. I want to be inside you. Vroom vroom.

>>19969624
Define decent

>>19969627
conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behavior

>>19969647
What if a man of power chnaged them, however improbable that may be. Would you change also?

>>19969625
What's your weight distribution like?

>>19969656
No, following moral standards because you‘re forced to is not the same as accepting them as true.

>>19969667
You just said "generally accepted"

>>19969682
I also said being forced to is not the same as accept. Just because someone is in power and feels like he can dictate the morals of the people subjected to his power doesn‘t mean they accept them. They might pretend to, to avoid penalties but i don‘t think you can truly change someones moral compass by demanding it. Or are you saying that if someone with magic powers changed the generally accepted moral standards? That seems like an odd scenario to care about. Or are you asking if i‘d change my definition of decent if enough people generally would pretend to accept the newly imposed moral values?

My future husband was kidnapped and eaten by a roving band of barbarous baboons.

>>19969696
Consider yourself lucky.

My future husband is daydreaming about what his future husband is doing right now.

>>19969734
That‘s a bit gay ngl

There are fucking w*men in this thread. It reeks of their cancerous presence. Smells like Reddit and used tampons. I’m leaving.

My future wife... she just is... okay. And that's enough.
>>19969621
>the virgin sleep in a racecar
>the homer sleep in a big bed with wife
>the chad sleep in garage because am the racecar
Yes I have confused the virgin /chad, woke/broke/bespoke. peabrain/galaxybrain/Alex Grey Painting memes. Fuck you, they're all the same fucking meme!

My future husband is hoping he meets his future husband before they both encounter twink death.

>>19969738
Good riddance

I just can’t find any escape

>>19969776
We‘ll find you. You can‘t hide. That‘s because we can smell your fear.

Reading 2 hours a day is really good for the brain. I hate coming on here and hearing you faggots sling shit.

Going though old argument of madness vs genius. Where is the line?

new thread
>>19969809
>>19969809
>>19969809

>>19969812
Contextual awareness is always the line

i wonder what my trip number is

>>19969793
Yet here you are

>>19969812
In what is socially accepted at the moment.

>>19969825
oh wait, I don't know how tripfagging works

>>19969544
>The date is 02/22/2022
Why not choose to be cooler and write it as: 2/22/22

>>19966358
TTRPGs and reading fantasy. I know it’s lowbrow but I’m way happier.

>>19966712
1. That's not how evolution works
2. Evolution isn't real
3. I can still piss with a boner, it's just harder to aim
4. Why don't women piss themselves all the time then?

The stupidity of niggas that post here is astounding. This is a /r/showerthoughts tier post. This is a tweet. This is a TikTok caption where the guy or his wacky roommate is stoned on the weed drug. Shut the fuck up!

>>19970198
Its pretty common for women to piss themselves. I ex pissed herself a few times

>>19966343
Jesus represents everything I hate in humanity.

>>19969743
I'm rooting for you two for six months