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Good books for 10-11 year old boys that don't feature interracial relationships? Pic NOT related. Bought it for my nephew thinking it was a normal action/mystery, didn't realize it has BMWF. He loves Percy Jackson, and so far refuses to read LOTR I think because his mom likes it and encourages him to read it. Any recommendations?

>> No.19964646

Oh fuck off

>> No.19964650

>>19964624
Holes was fantastic. Singlehandedly got me into books as a kid. I loved it so much that it inspired me to write my own story (where I pretty much plagiarized every single plot beat from Holes lol)

>> No.19964653

Just limit everything written after 1865 and call it a day. Hell, get him an abridged version of Homer, and maybe Bullfinch's Mythology.

>> No.19964661

>>19964653
>abridged
begone degenerate

>> No.19964677

>>19964650
That's good to know. I think he'll enjoy it, it's just annoying that literally everything for kids has to promote BMWF these days.

>>19964653
Homer and Bullfinch's Mythology are good ideas, he loves Greek and Roman mythology.

>> No.19964690

>>19964624
What was the plot about? I think I read it as a kid, but I'm not sure, was it about some forced labor camp where kids were forced to dig holes constantly?

>> No.19964716

>>19964661
He's TEN. He probably can't even pronounce Achilles.

>>19964677
If he gets filtered too hard by the Greek names get a copy of an audiobook to listen to as well, for Homer. It'll help keep things flowing and he won't get distracted by all the long complicated names.

>> No.19964720

>>19964677
Does it really "promote" BMWF if the guy dies? It is just advocating against racism, which is good for a children's novel to address.

>> No.19964722

>>19964661
>8 books of random shit about his son
>4 cool books
>12 books nostos

You haven't read the odyssey unabridged either, stop lying

>> No.19964743

>>19964720
>which is good
Extremely debatable, but not appropriate for /lit/. Suffice it to say OP is looking for books that don't feature interracial relationships.

Also, to OP: you should read everything before you give it to your son. It shouldn't take more than a few hours to blast through literature at his reading level and you won't get surprised again.

>> No.19964754 [DELETED] 

>>19964720
idk, I haven't read it. I just read a plot summary. The existence of a BMWF plotline is promotion, though. It's being forced into every children's book, movie, commercial. Have you looked at contemporary illustrations for fairy tales lately? I normally wouldn't have a problem with it except it's so pervasive. Kids get enough "anti-racism" in their school curriculum and from the majority of children's media.

>> No.19964759

>>19964743
Yeah, I'll be doing that from now on I think. Thanks. And apologies, didn't mean to bring too much politics to lit. Genuinely looking for recommendations.

>> No.19964910

>>19964677
>everything promotes BMWF these days

It was written in 1998 you retard

>> No.19965009

>>19964910
I know. What's your point?

>> No.19965060

>>19964624
I would say Animorphs, but if you think about it the series would be elevated at least 3x if the character Cassie was a pale, dark haired, blue eyed tomboy. Can you imagine? Probably no one read that, and they cannot imagine.

>> No.19965142

>>19964624
>He loves Percy Jackson
Get him the Mythology book.

>> No.19965192

phantom tollbooth

>> No.19965203

>>19964624
Hardy Boys
Harry Potter (first four then cut it off) there is WMAF
Artemis Fowl
Treasure Island and any Defoe
Jules Verne
Gates of Fire (adult book but good lessons in there)
The Sharpe series
Hornblower
Anne of Green Gables

>> No.19965211

Goosebumps.

>> No.19965218

>>19965203
>Harry Potter (first four then cut it off) there is WMAF
Is this why zoomers love WMAF so much? The other day I took a walk right when school was getting out and a good 80% of couples I saw were WMAF.

>> No.19965220

>>19964743
>Extremely debatable, but not appropriate for /lit/
fuck off redditor

>> No.19965235

>>19965218
You probably live in California but it's pushed a lot elsewhere.
>>19965220
How is he a redditor? He is saying it's debatable to teach 'anti-racism' which it is.

>> No.19965256

>>19964624
The Little Prince if you're okay with homoerotic relationships instead.
That and Gulliver's Travels were the books that got me into literature when I was a little wee boy. I'm only somewhat gay; think about as gay as Oscar Wilde for reference.

>> No.19965279

>>19965235
>how is coming to 4chan to play a wannabe jannie rulefag and bitch about what discussions are allowed where, perpetually tightening the circle of discourse until no board remotely resembles its state even a handful of years ago
You tell me

>> No.19965284

>>19965279
How is (....) reddit**

>> No.19965295

Beyond good and evil by Friedrich Nietzsche.

>> No.19965302

>>19965218
That is bizarre. I'm not even a very old millennial and kids stuck with their own 99% when I was in school. The media must be working .

>> No.19965343

>>19965220
Discussion of the merits of miscegenation belong on /pol/, not /lit/. If you dislike /pol/, there's also /b/, /trash/, and /bant/.

>>19965218
Nah, yellow fever has always been a thing. The WMAF part of Harry Pottter is just a minor part of the plot and ends with them breaking up when Cho somewhat betrays him and his secret club to the mean teacher they don't like. Later, he hooks up with and eventually marries his best friend's younger sister, who's white if you consider gingers to be white.

>>19965302
Brainwashing is a terrifyingly real phenomenon. It's why I personally refuse to be exposed to advertising of any kind, so far as I can help it, and don't consume any broadcast media in my native language.

>> No.19965352

>>19964722
Is that really unbelievable to you? Jesus Christ this is a literature board.

>> No.19965353

>>19964743
>"racism is bad" is somehow a controversial statement on /lit/

>> No.19965363

>>19965203
This. Can't possibly go wrong with Treasure Island, any Verne or Doyle

>> No.19965384

>>19965279
You’re really desperate to talk about politics huh?

>> No.19965423

>>19965203
>Sharpe and Hornblower
Thoughts on whether they too mature for an almost 11 year old?
Thanks for the list, he loved Harry Potter and Treasure Island. Jules Verne is a great idea.

>> No.19965434

>>19965343
Yeah I'm not too concerned if it's just a minor plot point

>> No.19965436

>>19965363
>Doyle
That's another good one, thanks

>> No.19965462

>>19964624
You are scum.
You are not scum for disliking interracial relationships. You are scum for not letting your son read about things you dislike and deciding for himself what he should believe it. Are you so unconfident in your values that you fear a silly children’s book will warp your child away from them? Kill yourself.

>> No.19965475

>>19965462
It's his nephew.

>> No.19965498

>>19965423
I don't think they are too mature but I believe there is some light sexual content in Sharpe. Nothing pornographic obviously.

>> No.19965499

>>19965475
That’s racist.

>> No.19965509

>>19965462
Really? First, it's my nephew not my son. Second, I'm looking for books that don't focus on interracial relationships or moral messages about "anti-racism" because kids are literally inundated with it at school and in all forms of media. I'm not attempting to shield him from it.

>> No.19965513

>>19965423
Okay apparently there are some rape scenes in Sharpe so tread lightly. Maybe read them before. I do not believe every book has that though.

>> No.19965587

>>19965513
Thanks. I think he'd like something like the Sharp series, but maybe when he's a little older. Good to keep on my list though.

>> No.19965592

>>19965009
You have no perspective of time if you think over 20 years ago is the equivalent to "these days"

>> No.19965598

>>19965462
Kids are already being brainwashed with this shit at school, they dont need to come home and read more books about anti-racism

>> No.19965695

>>19965592
I never said it was. wtf are you trying to argue

>> No.19965839

>>19964624
Little boys should keep well away from holes that are clearly still way to big for them.

>> No.19965914

>>19965384
>everything I don't like is politics, except for the literal politics that I do like
leave retard

>> No.19965929

>>19964690
yes

>> No.19966028

>>19965509
Yeah I agree with you. You just want to have him read something interesting and enjoyable for once. That should not make people upset and they do push way too much of that cynical content nowadays on kids so giving him a break will be a good thing.

>> No.19966078

>>19965513
Is 11 years old really to young to read a book with a sex or rape scene? Isn't that a borderline middle schooler? As far as recommendations go, I remember loving The Call of the Wild, Hatchet, and Water ship Down as a kid. I also loved the Hobbit but did not care for FOTR. From my memory, I found it annoying that it was less about Frodo using his wits to get out of situations like Bilbo does, and more about Gandalf or that guy who becomes King at the end randomly spawning and saving his ass.

>> No.19966119

>>19964624
It is wrong to push your hateful "values" on your kid. Anyone who tries to help OP is complicit in his attempt to promote racism.

>> No.19966132

>>19966119
(you)

>> No.19966156

>>19965914
You really do

>> No.19966178

>>19966156
>everything I don't like is politics

>> No.19966208

>>19966178
He really does

>> No.19966242

Why are you trying to shelter your nephew from reality? Even if you don't like miscegenation it happens, has happened, and will continue to happen regardless of your feelings.

>> No.19966245

>>19966242
>and will continue to happen
do you have 7 peer reviewed sources to back this claim up?

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>>19966119

>> No.19966279

>>19966028
This^

>> No.19966456

>nooooooo black white can’t kiss!!1!!!1!
Fuck off back to /pol/, this board is for smart people.

>> No.19966485

>>19966456
link the discord, sister!

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>>19964743
Is it sufficed to say or suffice it to say?

>> No.19966628

>>19966531
>suffice it to say

>> No.19966924

>>19965462
You think there aren't ideas so cancerous they can't metastasize inside your own head, let alone a child's? Communism, National Socialism, Racism, Statism, Anarchism, all ideas that keep circulating because they're propagated like mental viruses. Do some research on propaganda and brainwashing and start to be real discerning in what you put in your brain.

>> No.19966947

>>19966531
>>19966628
Suffice to say*
You don't need the "it"

>> No.19966953

>>19966078
I'll leave the discretion of presenting an 11 y/o with those realities to OP but I totally second Hatchet and the Jack London books. Great stuff for a young man.

>> No.19967064

>>19966924
You can't argue with guys like that they live in their own world.

>> No.19967120

>>19966947
Yes, the "it" isn't necessary, but it doesn't make the phrase wrong either.

>> No.19967160

Swallows & Amazons
the Just William books

>> No.19967235

>>19966132
>>19966251
So maybe my phrasing was provocative; that doesn't mean I don't mean it.

>> No.19967251

The state of /lit/

>> No.19967327

>>19967251
I actually prefer this kind of thread to philosophy wanking. Almost enough that I wish hiroshima would just make a philosophy/religion board so /lit/ can descend into purely literary discussion and there'd be room for absolute trash-tier literature discussion, like japanese light novels and royal road stories.

>> No.19967343

>>19967327
What do you mean, royal road stories? I thought I was at least somewhat weeby but I haven't heard that term.

>> No.19967404

>>19967343
It's Narou for English speakers, apparently. I only found out about it a few weeks ago myself but it's got the standard romance and isekai fare you'd get from a japanese web novel site. I'm thinking about making an account and actually writing my own shitty fantasy story to post there. royalroad.com

>> No.19967448

>>19965218
as a white male married to an asian female: our reading is that asian women are turned off by asian men because of how racist and abusive they can be.

when i was dating on okcupid teen years ago, the vast majority of the women who responded to me were asian but they made up a minority of who i messaged.

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>>19964624
>so far refuses to read LOTR I think because his mom likes it and encourages him to read it
kids ffs
get him pic related

>> No.19967469

>>19967448
It's obvious why a non white woman would want a white man but the hard part to understand is why so many young White men want to date Asian girls.

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>>19964624

>> No.19967485

>>19967404
Honestly if I were to try to write a ranobe I'd probably just do it in Japanese to practice my Japanese while I'm at it.

>> No.19967496

>>19967235
>Well what I really meant is the state made up of diversity hires should raise your kid to hate themselves, you racist
nobody cares. hence (you)

>> No.19967509

>>19967327
>Almost enough that I wish hiroshima would just make a philosophy/religion board
confirmed for a complete newfag. About 8 or 9 years ago many many people wanted this, we ended up with the creation of /his/ and the wishy washy sticky that exists on this board today about how "well really you can post it wherever you le want". /his/ is a complete disaster and looking back it was foolish thinking that /lit/ could ever be divorced from philosophy and religion and that where we are now was always inevitable

>> No.19967516

>>19967496
Hating other races and hating themselves are not the only two options. It is possible to hate neither.

>> No.19967529

>>19967516
Sure thing pal all of the messaging of the last decade surely supports your faggy horseshit. As a (marginally) reformed white nationalist I agree that the races don't -need- to hate each other, but are encouraged to by literally the jews.

>> No.19967531

>>19967462
>Gibbbon
First of all, it's not his fault he doesn't trust his mother's taste. He'll find LOTR eventually, especially if he watches the movies.
Second, I don't think OP hates his nephew! For God's sake giving him Gibbon will just make him hate the Romans and Christians and LOATHE reading in general.

>> No.19967539

>>19967529
Frankly, I think most Jews can't agree on pizza toppings let alone a social agenda, knowing some.

>> No.19967541

>>19967540

>> No.19967547

>>19967469
They don't really. White people have the highest in-group preference for dating. Any assertions otherwise are Jewish demoralization propaganda. Your first statement answers both your questions.

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>>19967539
>THEY CAN'T EVEN AGREE ON THEIR FAVORITE SANDWICHES
>HOW COULD THEY AGREE ON POLICY
Are you a freemason by chance? Never seen the le sandwiches card played in defense of jews, but masons use it frequently

>> No.19967559

>>19967469
They're exotic, and so it's easy to be less critical on their appearance compared to a white woman. A short, small breasted, narrow-hipped white woman with a round face looks like an underdeveloped goblin, but an asian woman like that looks desirable. Asians also act more feminine than white women do these days, and they submit to a man easier, at least until they sense you're thoroughly pussy-whipped, at which point they marry you and have a bunch of children rather than cheating on you and leeching resources until you catch on and get dumped.

>>19967509
Fair enough, I was here the first week the board was created but left when idiots were trying to make "c/lit/" a thing, like /v/irgin or /a/non. Only came back recently, say 4-6 months ago. I never did lurk /his/ so I have no idea how much of a clusterfuck it is, although I find the pregnant anne frank in the civil war meme delightful.

>> No.19967566

>>19967549
No, though my grandfather (well, my stepfather's father technically) was. But he died before I was born, and in any case I'm lacking two of the basic qualifications for entry into the freemasons.

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>>19967566
>well regarding your seemingly random accusation:
>I'm not a freemason but my granfather was :)
might as well play LE OLD MEN PLAYING CARDS technique at this point

>> No.19967583

>>19967469
As a (different) white guy married to an Asian woman, bookishness is considered attractive or at least normal in many Asian cultures so I’ve always got along better with Asians of both sexes - even “chads” in East Asia still accept that guys like me exist and have value, which is not true in the west.

Also let’s admit it, white girls are largely disappointing to look at. On looks alone I’d rather date literally any other race.

>> No.19967584

>>19964624
i despise you. i'm so thankful i wasn't raised by dipshits like you. looking forward to your nephew growing up to be a gay little slut who takes black cock up the ass on a regular basis as a way to overcompensate for his repressed upbringing.

>> No.19967592

>>19967576
I literally cannot be a freemason, I am neither a believer in a higher power nor male. I suppose I could disguise myself as a man and pretend to believe in a higher power but why would I?

>> No.19967597

Retuning to book recs for younger boys: Day of the Triffids is an absolute classic

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>>19967592
Is that why you said "The people in control of the world don't agree about their food toppings" followed by "well now that you ""randomly"" accused me of being a freemason, my grandfather was one!", like literally every other mason? You're all so predictable and rely on people being too stupid to read.

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whoops wrong image

>> No.19967612

>>19967531
My point is just to give him something weighty. Non-fiction accomplishes that easily. Or at least get something rooted in ancient mythology. Maybe snag a copy of the Odyssey or something like that. Anything that communicates a sense of real cultural weight will suffice. I hated reading when I was a kid because the only thing I was recommended was shitty youth narrative fiction. I found a little 200 page book of Greek myths when I was maybe 10 or 11 years old and loved it. Something like that could work for the right kid, but OP would know best.

>> No.19967621

>>19964624
City of Ember doesn't have interracial couples

>> No.19967627

>>19967605
Please take your meds.

>> No.19967698

>>19967612
Ah, I see. I remember being that age and reading a 400 page history of WW2 despite knowing jack-all about history or europe, and absorbed basically none of it. If that's the case the best bet might be to turn him loose in a used bookstore with a $50 bill. He'll find something he's interested in and since he bought it, he'll start out more interested in it than any recommendation or gift. Plus it'll make him feel very adult to pick out his own books and buy them with such a "large" piece of money.

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>>19967627

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>> No.19967733

>>19966078
When we were in 11th grade we read a story in class about some boy and his little (half) sister that gets molested by their deadbeat father and their mom is neglectful

>> No.19967990

>>19966078
Gave him Hatchet last year, I'll have to ask him if he's read it. I'm pretty sure he's read Call of the Wild too. He loves survival stuff.

>>19967160
Thanks, I'll check those out

>>19967612
I got him Usborne's Illustrated Greek Myths and their Nordic Mythology a couple of years ago, and he's literally worn them both out. Some abridged Homer or mythology books for older readers would be great ideas for him.

>>19967698
>turn him loose in a used bookstore with a $50 bill
This is a great idea too. He often gets gift certificates to chain bookstores for Christmas and birthdays, but always ends up using them to buy Pokemon cards. Used bookstore would force him to choose books.

>> No.19968037

Oh and to those who got triggered, go fuck yourself. My nephew goes to public school and his parents are leftist progressive types. All I want to do is make sure he gets some exposure to great books where it's okay that the hero is a white male and the story doesn't focus on so called "social justice" issues. If you think that equates to repression or racism, you've got mental problems.

>> No.19968056

>>19968037
>All I want to do is make sure he gets some exposure to great books where it's okay that the hero is a white male and the story doesn't focus on so called "social justice" issues.
And having an interracial relationship inherently means that it's not okay that the hero is a white male and that it focuses on 'social justice' issues? What if these two characters who have chemistry just happen to be different races?

>> No.19968108

>>19968056
>>>/pol/
>>>/b/
>>>/bant/
>>>/trash/

>> No.19968121

>>19968108
What, so if OP is saying things that make no sense I'm not allowed to point that out?

>> No.19968137

>>19968121
you should think less and aggress more. rage as much as possible.

>> No.19968138

>>19968056
>just happen
literature is a creation, not accidental

>>19967990
>Some abridged Homer or mythology books for older readers would be great ideas for him.
Definitely. An abridged Aeneid could be another good one. Literally anything mythological and epic. I stress books with weight of substance because an enjoyment of important things may inspire him to value said things, and many of those works are attempting to teach people how to be well formed individuals. Archetypes like the warrior poet or the philosopher king are worth admiring. The youth need to be given a sturdy foundation in life if they’re going to grow up to value anything more than k/d ratio and funko pops.

>> No.19968192

>>19968138
Still, are you saying it's inconceivable that an author could write an interracial relationship for any reason other than pushing a political agenda.

>> No.19968194

>>19968056
My point is that everything for kids is already saturated with it and it's not even an accurate reflection of reality. I won't get into the politics of it because this is lit but obviously it's something done purposefully, and not because two characters "just so happen" to be two different races.

>> No.19968216

>>19968192
Today, yes, for the same reason that no author could pen an ode to Coca-Cola for any other reason than marketing.

You seem a bit dim, so you probably don't see how I'm trying to gently steer you towards /lit/ discussion and away from /pol/ discussion. Stop talking about the ethics/morality/goodness/badness of miscegenation in this thread. Take it one of the four boards where that discussion would be on topic.

>> No.19968242

>>19964624
Sacrifice your nephew

>> No.19968253

>>19968138
Agree with you 100%, that's my hope for him.

>>19968192
Publishers today won't touch any children's or YA book that doesn't contain a certain amount of diversity and social messaging. It's not organic. Kids should be able to read great stories without being subject to social engineering. Boys shouldn't be emasculated and white boys in particular shouldn't be made to feel guilty for who they are.

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>>19968121
Bro relax you are right, the problem is you are arguing with people who have chosen to react to the Liberial agenda by going the exact opposite way. I acknowledge the indoctrination in media as I’m sure all people do to varying degrees, but what these anons are doing is running to the extreme opposite to fight it. So if you bring up a reasonable point, you are seen as a tranny. The left does this as well and it makes communication with either side impossible.

>> No.19968768

>>19968216
The premise of OPs post presumes that mixed race couples in literature is immoral. Quite trying to act like your better than him just because you don’t have anything of merit to defend your point with. You might as well call names or tell people to go to /b/ like a retard

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>> No.19969701

>>19969460
Those look fun, thanks

>> No.19970003

>>19968768
So what? That premise by itself is not a discussion of politics nor off-topic. OP is asking for book recommendations for a pre-teen. Perfectly on topic. What's not on topic is attacking the OP for his opinions, which has nothing to do with literature and is a political discussion.

My only point on this topic is that there's at least four boards for that kind of political discussion and /lit/ isn't one of them. Take your warfighting elsewhere.

>> No.19970111

>>19964624
After Percy Jackson I went to: The Tapestry by Henry H Neff, The heir chronicles, and Fablehaven.

>> No.19970152

The Once and Future King, T.H. White. King Arthur but set in the 14th century, wot? Merlyn and all that, yes? Be a good chap and give it a go

>> No.19970163

>>19965509
Based

>> No.19970230

>>19968056
I think OP is looking for a book in which race isnt really even mentioned or explored
Kids are already being exposed to race politics in school enough
They shouldnt have to come home and read books for the purpose of leisure and STILL be exposed to race politics
They should be able to enjoy reading a simple childrens novel without anybody trying to convince them to think a certain way

>> No.19970247

>>19968768
OPs post does not presume that mixed race couples in literature are immoral
He simply asked for book recommendations that do no feature mixed race couples
Then you started throwing a hissyfit and have continued to shit up the thread for several days with your bullshit

>> No.19971404

>>19970003
But OP brought up politics first. Opposition to race mixing is absolutely a political position.

>> No.19971435

>>19970230
But not every book with a mixed-race couple is inherently advocating a political position, because the mere existence of mixed-race couples isn't inherently political, racists make it political.

>> No.19971592

>>19971435
If there was no purpose for the couple being mixed-race, the author would not explicitly state their races

>> No.19971651

>>19967584
die faggot

>> No.19971655

>>19967584
>faggots want children molested
like clockwork

>> No.19971664

>>19971592
By that logic, if there's no purpose for them being of the same race the author wouldn't state their races either.
>>19971655
>growing up to be
As in, once he's grown up. But I shouldn't have expected "people" like you to be able to read.

>> No.19971673

>>19971664
People dont grow up to be faggots, they were molested as children. Kill yourself freak

>> No.19971678

>>19964624
top fucking kek thank you for this

>> No.19971679

>>19967584
>>19971664
Unironically kys

>> No.19971705

>>19971664
>them being of the same race the author wouldn’t state their races either
Literally yes goofball
I even said in my post that
>OP is looking for a book where race isnt even really mentioned or explored

>> No.19971724

>>19971673
Then why did I grow up to be bisexual even though I was never molested?

>> No.19971781

>>19971724
A psychiatrist might be able to answer that but we dont have enough details

>> No.19971791

>>19969460
Bellairs was my go to author as a younger person.

>> No.19971797

>>19971724
Xenoestrogens and too much globohomo propaganda in the media you consumed growing up, probably in combination with a single mother.

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>>19964624
picrel was my favorite book at that age. Redwall is also a good choice.

>> No.19971847

>>19971781
What do you need to know?
>>19971797
I can't recall seeing a single piece of gay propaganda growing up, and I wasn't raised by a single mother. (You also seem to be assuming I'm a guy.)

>> No.19971927

>>19971832
I know he loved books & movies about Balto and Togo the sled dogs, so that looks perfect, thanks. I found the full movie on youtube as well. I'll have to check if he already has the Redwall series.

>> No.19972021

>>19971847
This is a thread for book recommendations. Go do your AMA on reddit, troon.

>> No.19972094
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The holy trinity of Walter Moers' germanic autism is your best choice

>> No.19972096

>>19971847
We would need to know everything that you tell a psychiatrist so basically your entire life story
And like >>19972021 said this is /lit/ so its really not the place for that
But rest assured that your sexuality undoubtedly has roots in your development/socialization

>> No.19972167

>>19972096
>But rest assured that your sexuality undoubtedly has roots in your development/socialization
objectively wrong

>> No.19972208

>>19972096
How do you know that?

>> No.19972240

>shitting up the board because you disagree with an on topic OP’s politics and philosophical outlook
r/lit indeed

>> No.19972244

>>19972167
Excellent counterpoint

>> No.19972286

>>19965592
Not that guy but I would argue that it’s (you) who has doesn’t have the right frame of the time. “These days” is obviously relative but when you consider how old the written word is thirty years is nothing. Obviously culture is different now but it’s mostly an advancement of existing cultural trends that existed in the nineties and earlier.

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>> No.19972481

>>19965218
Probably because society sees Asian men at the bottom of the barrel. I aint even Asian but honestly I feel bad

>> No.19972494

>>19966924
>National Socialism is propagated
Actually no, boomers won't quit whining about the holocaust. Even my Jewish buddy Ed thinks its overkill at this point. Sometimes you just gotta back up a bit and think "how is promoting this shit helping anyone?"

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>>19964720
>>19964910
niggers aren't human
leftists aren't human
let's start the killing

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>A: "everyone should be free to enjoy their own preferences"
>B: "I prefer white people"
>A: "FUCKING NAZI KILL YOURSELF I HOPE YOUR NEPHEW GETS MOLESTED!"

The idea that politics can be cordoned off into a single board is ridiculous when you can't even prefer and promote your own people without being called a villain. Everything is political now, and you have to choose your side.

>> No.19972638

>>19972634
All the kill yourself posts are responding to the libs

>> No.19972658

>>19964624
Anything Roald Dahl, Jack London, or Robert Louis Stevenson basically

>> No.19972660

>>19972638
It's a valid response to one's mortal enemies.

>> No.19972679

>>19967583
White women are by far the most beautiful and no other race is even close. I wouldn't go near a flat-nosed panface.

>> No.19972681

>>19972634
I mean, if you turn someone down because of their race, your rejection is legitimate in the sense that you should not be forced to date them, but that's pretty objectively a racist preference.

>> No.19972696

>>19972660

You're not afraid of black people stealing your women because of something they have. It's because of something you lack. You Jeb Bush types need to come up with a boogeyman so you can avoid confronting your lack of masculinity.

The fact that you're afraid of a black man stealing your girl is so fucking funny, especially because you probably are going to be/have been cheated on, whether you find out about it or not.

>> No.19972707

OP, where I think you messed up is in allowing your selection of a gift for your nephew to be curated by someone else. My dad gave me books as a kid, and they were all things he already loved. While other kids my age were reading Harry Potter I was reading "Ender's Game" and "Starship Troopers".

You have a whole life of experience to draw from and you're not using it. Props to you otherwise, though.

>> No.19972710

>>19972696
kys

>> No.19972715

>>19972681
>implying racism isn't legitimate

>> No.19972738

>>19971435
>But not every book with a mixed-race couple is inherently advocating a political position
Feigning naivety is another common tactic of subversives. When you spend hundreds or thousands of hours creating something you don't frivolously select things as major as the race of characters.

>> No.19972752

>>19972715
Racism is morally bad, yes. I'm not sure why that's a controversial proposition.

>> No.19972773

>>19968759
What you call "extreme" I call standards. There's no reason whatsoever that people outside your own personal definition of "good" need to be respected. What's extreme and lunatic is wanting to force people that hate each other to occupy the same space peacefully.

>> No.19972776

>>19972752
>morally
You can't universalize morals, brainlet. People less like me are also less good. I say so.

>> No.19972894

>>19972696
I'm OP and I've trying my best to ignore you but you're being an insufferable twat. It's nothing to do with a "lack of masculinity", I'm not even a guy I'm a girl and believe me I'm the last thing from a "Jeb Bush type". I have no ill will whatsoever towards other races but to be frank European descended people are a small and increasingly shrinking global minority. I won't apologize for seeking to counterbalance the onslaught of social justice messaging with good books that don't focus on racial issues.

>>19972707
Thank you, the problem is I never read children's or YA books for boys, and I've never been into fantasy or scifi, so ideas don't really come easily to me. I've got a great list going now, though.

>> No.19972902

>>19972752
Hurting other people because of their race might be bad, but showing ingroup preference is perfectly natural and good.

>> No.19973131

>>19972776
So if I say that killing you is good because I say so, you can't object on moral grounds because morals aren't universal?
>>19972902
Who counts as your ingroup? The fifth generation Chinese-American guy down the street from me sure as hell has more in common with me culturally than my fourth cousin who lives in the middle of nowhere in Scotland and herds sheep.

>> No.19973163

>>19973131
>So if I say that killing you is good because I say so, you can't object on moral grounds because morals aren't universal?
I CAN object on my own moral grounds because morals aren't universal, retard. But it would be pointless because you don't share my morals.

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>>19972894
>I won't apologize for seeking to counterbalance the onslaught of social justice messaging with good books that don't focus on racial issues.

>> No.19973204

Louis Sacher is a jew op. Its why his book is inherently degenerate. Because it was written by a jewish mind.

>> No.19973337

>>19973131
If you were to ask that 5th generation Chinese-American guy whether you had more in common with him than with your Scottish cousin, he'd just as likely disagree with you. After all, he wouldn't have remained identifiably Chinese after 5 generations if his family had a laissez faire attitude towards their own ethnic identity.

>> No.19973381

I enjoyed Vinetou

>> No.19973751

>>19972696
Ironically you're being racist and sexist

>> No.19974203

>>19965598
ooh honey, your privilege is showing *sips*

>> No.19974253

>>19964720
There are literally zero demographics that I think would benefit from Holes. White people didn't benefit from ending "racism" and thus unless you hate White people, you wouldn't recommend White kids read media that opposes "racism". If was black or had a black kid under my guardianship, I'd recommend black nationalist materials. Even if I had guardianship over a Jew, I would recommend pro-Jewish materials, not "anti-racism" materials. I want my progeny to have a master morality, not slave morality.

>> No.19974254

>>19965353
It's not controversial, but false. Racism is good for whatever race the racism is designed to strengthen and bad for whatever race isn't that race. Morality is relative.

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>>19974253
>I'd recommend black nationalist materials
>pro jew material.
>people actually believe this

if this is how you want to live your life, why are you mad that your team is losing? according to your logic

>> No.19974383

>>19974365
oh wait nvm im drunk and read this post wrong

>> No.19974571

>>19964646
fpbp