/lit/ - Literature

You'll never be Korean. Just accept your American roots.

>>19961348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE2h3lGlOsk&ab_channel=JYPEntertainment

>korean culture
>korean philosophy
>korean art

>>19961348
Contemporary Korean culture is perhaps the most toxic evolution of culture produced by modernity, combining the worst aspects of tradition and modernity into one great cultural cesspit.

>>19961384
>>19961385

I'm afraid these guys are right. Sorry, anon.

>>19961348
>Has anyone else gone through a similar process
Sorry anon but if you were born in the Americas you're a citizen of Zogpolis and not Korean

>>19961348
you're probably better of asking Korean people, not a website full of anons who think all of your region is full of 'bugs'. You even said it 'bugman' yourself. Have some selfrespect.

http://www.uriminzokkiri.com/

Just defect to best korea

>>19961385
>>19961390
I know that, did you think that the culture I was referencing in my post was BTS and Squid Game?

I don't even consider kpop to be Eastern music, to begin with- it's more like my people taking a standard set by the West and taking it to its furthest extremes.

That said, I won't use that as a reason to forsake my blood, and the traditions that have been passed down to me by on generation. I will die a proud Korean man, with an understanding what it is to be a Korean man in a Western world, even if a large part of me will always be rootless.

>>19961397
This

pfft korean "culture" is just washed down american/japanese/chinese rip off

>>19961348
Why would you call yourself a 'bugman'?

>>19961397
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bugmen

I wasn't using the word in a racial sense, dumbass. Bugman is internet slang adjacent to basedboy, Redditor, that describes someone who has given up his culture/background and allowed corporations and mainstream society to dictate his thoughts and values.

>>19961432
Cope.

>>19961430
He read Kafka

>>19961430
See >>19961432

>>19961416
>>19961432
Based.

https://hackernoon.com/on-the-infestation-of-small-souled-bugmen-6561ae922e07

>>19961416

>>19961348
I'm afraid even if you just move to Korea you will see that your fellow men are just as westernized as you are.

>>19961348
Do the mandatory military service for Korean males. Part of what makes men in the modern world soft is constant acquiescence to comfort, and lack of clear initiation rites that turn boys into men. Most people today run from the slightest discomfort and afraid of pain. In a barracks surrounded by other Korean men you will learn to speak Korean fluently, but keep in mind that given that Korea is a Westernized country and you're not likely to find anything but more bugmen over there. However spending time there will help you learn the language very quickly, which is of great benefit. One thing I'll say is this: cut your internet use significantly, since this is basically the vessel for the stream of pseudo-experiences that keeps you complacent, distracted, emasculated, and thinking the way the world wants you to think, and as you grow in your ability to read Korean try spending time in Korean online circles. Like other anons have mentioned, they're the best ones to ask, and you're probably not alone in the way that you feel.

Also our country is overpopulated as shit and just pure competition from top to bottom. I would recommend that you keep that in mind if you are planning to live here. t. Korean-American anon.

>>19961480
Isn't Korean ran by some weird feminist witch cult? All my international knowledge comes from random former US military and /int/ memes.

>>19961348
Go on Ilbe

>>19961449
this article was shocking and im astonished that it seems to have gotten any traction in the first place and moreover that its still being mentioned in 2k22

The quintessential component of Korean identity is called 'Han', it is hard to translate in to English but "Seething" gets close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_(cultural)

A seething resentment so overwhelmingly powerful that it consumes the very soul, leading to 'Hwabyeong'.

>Hwabyeong or Hwapyŏng (hangul: 화병, hanja: 火病) is a Korean somatization disorder, a mental illness which arises when people are unable to confront their anger as a result of conditions which they perceive to be unfair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwabyeong


So if you fin yourself full of a vague seething anger, nebulous nondistinctive grudges, and see yourself as a victim, then congratulations you are in touch with your roots.

>>19961493
Yes. The Koreans early on adopted a civilizational strategy of picking a World power and then getting really fucking good at it's ideology. They then sell ideological blowjobs and high IQ eunuchs to said World power. North Korea is trying a different strategy. South Korea is thus getting really good at Liberalism, which is why Korea is run by a literal feminist witch cult but also has a population that is 50% [insert whatever denomination of Christianity is calculated to have the highest political influence abroad; today it's Presbyterianism].

Anyways, if you want to delve into Korea's literary tradition, you need to do it in Korean. Korea has a huge Buddhist and (Neo-)Confucian tradition, but most of it is untranslated.

>>19961553
>which is why Korea is run by a literal feminist witch cult
where can I read more about this?

>>19961553
That's at odds with what my father told me. He said that the Japan opened their doors to the West first and thus had the industry, technology, and means to colonize us. As for the prevalence of Presbyterianism (my family isnt), he ascribed that to a time in the colonial era when many Catholics in Korea (who were the majority of Korean Christians) converted to as a rsult of the revolutionary efforts led by Presbyterian leaders.

>>19961588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Park_Geun-hye
You're going to have to go down rabbit holes to get much more. SPOILER: The actual witch cult itself is more so just crazy women rather than an actual doctrine of witches, and the rabbit hole eventually gets to Jews financiers using the witch cult as a means of controlling Korea. In terms of their actual beliefs the witches are just malicious Korean shamans, and not even very good or well trained ones.

Korea has a longstanding shamanic tradition. It's the "native religion" of Korea, so to speak. These shamans aren't good, bad, etc, they're just people trained in certain arts.

>>19961596
The Confucian thing to do would be agree with your father, but the entire reason you'd do the Confucian thing instead of the Buddhist thing in this scenario is because of the mechanism that I just described.

Your dad's totally right about Japan and Catholicism, though. Korean Catholicism has an odd history of Koreans essentially trying to subvert the Vatican (it doesn't get off the ground) and then trying to side with the Vatican in order to enact the mechanism that I just described, but with Catholicism.

>>19961348
Kusan Sunim was one of the few enlightened Zen Buddhists in the 20th century. Seung Sahn was a fraud though. Both Korean. Kusan Sunim is the real deal.

>>19961348

Why did you abandon your own homeland and people to live in the shadow of whites?

>>19961599
what a bizarre nation. not surprised to find traces of jew paws there though.

>>19961348
Read your Confucianism. Shut up, Confirm, and Obey. And that's your culture. Right there.

>>19961599
Can you give me a verifiable source on the jews running Korea? That seems like a massive stretch to fit a worldview at best and and alt-right psychobabble at worst.

>>19961609
If you knew the first thing about how I've lived up to this point the word Confucian would be nowhere near a description of me. And honestly I don't know how well-researched your claims are, but saying that Korea has never created anything and simply piggybacked off more dominant ideologies seems like a sweeping claim that I'm suspicious of.

Koreans were raped by the Japanese. It is necessary to say that the Koreans possess a feminine spirit that's deeply rooted in their culture, and K-pop is the manifestation of the Korean spirit in the modern world. A Korean can only get in touch with his/her roots by exposing her butts and bending over.

>>19961348
>Hello- I'm a Westernized Asian anon who wants, after a youth of being indoctrinated by modern Western garbage, to learn about his roots (specifically Korean culture) by immersing himself in Asian philosophy and art.
well first you want to learn korean
then you want to go ask on a korean site instead

i was reading this a little while a go though
https://thevisionmsms.org/11468/opinion/colley-north-korea-is-justified/

>>19961667
Also, you need to learn about Korean cuisine. You can't call yourself Korean if you don't eat dogs on a weekly basis at least.

>>19961674
A ha hah ho ho ho and you can't be white unless you're dicking your sister or making plans to shoot up a school

>>19961686
Did you know Tyrone is an ancient Celtic name? Our niggas are whiter in spirit than you, chink! That's why I let Tyrone sleep with my wife every night. You will never be Aryan like Tyrone. Jealous much? :)

>>19961703
>The name Tyrone is derived from Irish Tír Eoghain 'land of Eoghan', the name given to the conquests made by the Cenél nEógain from the provinces of Airgíalla and Ulaid. Historically, it was anglicised as Tirowen or Tyrowen, which are closer to the Irish pronunciation.
Welp that settled it, the Irish are proven to be black.

>>19961367
wtf that webm is horrifying - wtf is happening

>>19961367
the show must go on, it's called dedication to your craft, a concept lost on the west long ago
these gooks would make ol Teddy Roosevelt prouder than any American alive today

>>19961348
>learn about his roots
You have no root. Just read about great minds and think a lot and be a good person. You should browsing china's social media, people on there are very cultured about their culture and guess what? they are all digusting bugs

>>19961348
On Nationalism by Kim Jong Il

>>19961712
>Irish ancestor moved from Tyrone directly to America

>>19961703
First off, it's gook, retard. Second, I don't want to be anything beyond what I am, which I'm proud of and would not change for anything. Your people may have emasculated us, taken our women, treated us with contempt, painted us in the media as lifeless insectoid nerds, but truth is this is all a good pain to have. It's an alienation that motivates me to grow in touch with my culture, my history, improve as a man and individual. It spurs me to action, and create the life that I want, against any kind of resistance. So go ahead, you can feel good about being white all you want. Slouch back in your gaming chair, dribble, and let your lips spread into a retarded grin for being one of dominant race guys. Wow. Congrats dude. Must be so great being you.

>>19961746
You aren't Korean. You don't speak the language, you don't know their culture and your "connection" to them is a coat of paint on your skin and a sense of alienation from the people you've grown up with. You think learning about your "roots" will make you a greater man, but tell me, how do you know that your roots even lay in Korea, without mentioning your skin color? In your post you have yet to mention anything that identifies yourself as Korean, outside of a supposed hatred for modernity and the white men. Is that supposed to be your roots, hate?
Do you realize how you sound like "I'm not like other girls"? Go and read some classical Asian works, there's a sticky on this sub. Then, maybe you'll realize that you aren't that Asian after all.

>>19961746
That post was obviously meant to be a joke, dude. I was poking fun at the current decadent state of the modern West, which is due to Jews.

>>19961746

ITT r/asianmasculinity

This thread is quite sad to see, as an Asian living in Asia, Western Asians see us as some sort of Utopia without its own baggage while they waste their life trying to find their 'identity' instead of being relieved that they were born in a good country.

>>19961783
I would substitute the word bitterness for hate, but yeah. And for that matter I believe that good things can be born out of hate and feelings of resentment.

And so what if I'm trying to find meaning in being a Korean man, and in a way that's different from others because most have succumbed to the iron grip of modernity? Sure I might read Confucian texts and find them retarded and backward, but so what? At least I made the effort to salvage something of my ancestors, and have a way of placing myself within a larger cultural context. Is that cringe? Pretentious and not like the other Asians? Think whatever the hell you want.

>>19961416
Based may you succeed in your quest Korea Anon

>>19961660
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackRock

>>19961660
>saying that Korea has never created anything
I never said that.

>>19961909
I'm telling you to ask yourself: What tells you that that you are Korean, and not, say, Chinese, Japanese or Cambodian? You can tell yourself that it's in your blood, but your understanding of your heritage is thin and the general sentiment I'm gathering is that you're rejecting modernity. It's a fair sentiment, but it is not unique to Koreans. If you set your mind to your birth, you are setting yourself up for failure because "real" Koreans are defined not just by their birth, but by the society in which they grow up (which too is undergoing modernization)
If your wish is to reject modernity, you can find that knowledge abundant. In fact half of what this board talks about is traditionalism. Evola is a popular author here, if you can put up with the fact that half his philosophy involves the theory that humans can turn into Super Saiyan. Read the Greeks, learn about the Stoics. Then expand your horizon to other Asian works. Like I said, it's all over the wiki.
If you narrow your focus on "being a Korean" only, you'll only disappoint yourself. Your woe is felt the same throughout every generation and in every nation. But as long as you keep your mind within the "Korean vs white men" confinement, you'll end up being another /pol/tard. Read more and read from everyone.

Begin with eating a dog and plastic surgery. Then you may move on to lying, swindling and eventually incest.

>>19961969
You know what bro you're probably right. Siege mentality ends tomorrow. Gonna start w the Greeks. Work my way to becoming a tradcath. Start waking up early.
And while I'm at it, I'll pick up a kpop look, start dressing in palewave, embrace the whole boba aesthetic, and just try to date as much as possible. There, no more inferiority complex. No regret down the line over a youth spent in celibacy.
Oh yeah baby here I come.

>>19961969
In seriousness, thank you for accepting me as an American, which in the end is what I've been my whole life. I guess that's root of my troubles— feeling 100% American but never being treated as such. I try not to let others' perception define the way I feel and knoe of course ways to earn their respect, but only so much life to be lived.

>>19962217
You are empty.

>>19961384
/thread, modern Korean culture simply consists of sucking America's cock and essentially being the closest thing to the US in all of East Asia on a (merely) cultural level

Hell, I keep hearing stories about how often South Korean women fucking drool over black guys, moreso than literally any other East Asian. If shit's gotten that fucking bad over there, then that should be enough to tell you that Koreans were doomed from the start lol

>>19962217
Gringo here. I've never been able to speak fluidly with an asian.
>>19962308
Their american cock sucking trauma is too much for them to approach my VAQUERO VATO VIEW. As fast as I run to speak to yall yall run away.
My fully Mexican sister got pregnant with a Korean baby but the Dad lost custody after some domestic violence on HIS END, talk about a fucking plot twist dude Mexicans are violence incarnate bloodiest nation on Earth. I've barely ever spoken to Asians in person still, never attended an event in public, had a class with them despite my efforts to. What would KOREANS think of my mongrel nephew and me raising him in Korea?

Jiren related I think that's our only cultural bridge we share?

>>19961969
>Evola
>Rejecting modernity
>Traditionalism
>Greeks
>Stoics
And you just described the quintessential /pol/tard. I swear this is all that chuds read, along with Sun and Steel, and maybe some antisemitic texts thrown in, that's it.

OP, this is not a good website to ask for advice, it is full of extremist right wingers. Surely there are other platforms where you can connect and talk to people. I might suggest discord or reddit. One problem, is you are starting by trying to identify yourself with a culture, or race (you mentioned blood). This leads to a scary rabbithole of nationalism, whether it be civic or ethnic, but you must realize that this is reactionary. First you need to ask yourself, what really makes you any different from any other human being? If you look into it, you will find that there isn't any real material difference. Hopefully you won't be led astray by the fascist propaganda here, and good luck on your journey to develop class consciousness.

>>19962512
Leave it to the commie to post even worse advice than the Neo Nazis in here.

>>19962426
>Dad lost custody after some domestic violence on HIS END,
Im not surprised, Chinese men treat their women like fucking dirt

>The Greeks were nazi chuds!
This place really is garbage, and it's not even because of the /pol/tards

>>19961348
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/korean-philosophy/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/korean-confucianism/

These may interest you.

>>19962687
>plato.stanford.edu
>plato
Uhm honey didn't you hear? The Greeks were nazi chuds.

>>19962512
>I might suggest discord or reddit
Yeah great another asian american basedboy

>>19962711
How the fuck did you know my name was Uhm Honey????

>>19962512
Don't you realize all of Asia was Buddhaboos BUT Muslim India for hundreds of years?

You must read juche thought my son. You know it to be true.

>>19962599
>Chinese
So they're not different then?

>>19962512
There are profound differences between human beings. OP is a good future focused man for looking out for himself like this when no one else will. I love you Anons but you have identities off keyboard and bring great differing perspective by your different backgrounds and challenging prides.

>be part of the greatest culture and empire in history
>entire world watches our movies, listens to our music, rides our dicks
> unrivaled innovation and economic dynamism
>OP as fuck military
>sports, guns, tacos, Chinese food, pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs, jet skis, trucks, fire works
Bro, you're American. You won the lottery of life. Embrace it. I have no clue where my family came from. My brother did a DNA thing at it was like 10 different countries. American is the only ethnicity worth caring about.

>>19962769
>My brother did a DNA thing at it was like 10 different countries
KEK

>>19962769
Hey mongrel I'm a Mexican and we're Mongrel (TM) we know our blend of cast characters and have accurate canon stereotypes. It's so much better than living in castrati sitcom company. We may be underpriced because of your scummy obedience to imperial authority but we're having more fun BEING a definite NATION than the crippled Anglo world around us. We still get to be macho and bitch about news together like about being called Latinx while half our Zoomer boys and 100% of our women are being plowed by every race. Matadors dude. Boxing champs. Cool shit. High adrenaline. Machista is the master race because that's who gets to SWING THE DICK
Oh Nogs no no no no no

>>19961348
This thread should be on /int/

>>19961348
just defect to North Korea

>>19962835
Your gods are badass.

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>>19962769
>greatest culture in history
As an American: Fuck no.
The modern culture of the developed world (largely spearheaded by America) is a blight that sacrifices love of life and nature for constant aversion to one's problems through hedonism and escapism.

>>19961348
1. Ignore posts here
2. Learn Hangul (i hear it's much easier than chinese or japanese)
3. Look into korean universities that are older than 200 years
4. See if they have history or literature programs in hangul
5. Read lots of old stuff in hangul.

>>19962769
>this is what rootless Americans think my culture is
Christ it's like your great grandfather giving you his bible only to discover someone drew pictures on every page.

>>19962992
>love of life and nature
this doesn't exist in anyone with an IQ over 100 that's why developing nations and developed nations don't have it anymore but third world shitholes are still lagging

>>19963133
Your spirit is chained and worn-down by unnecessary shackles you place on it yourself
>We are assured that the world is becoming more and more united, is being formed into brotherly communion, by the shortening of distances, by the transmitting of thoughts through the air. Alas, do not believe in such a union of people. Taking freedom to mean the increase and prompt satisfaction of needs, they distort their own nature, for they generate many meaningless and foolish desires, habits, and the most absurd fancies in themselves. They live only for mutual envy, for pleasure-seeking and self-display. To have dinners, horses, carriages, rank, and slaves to serve them is now considered such a necessity that for the sake of it, to satisfy it, they will sacrifice life, honor, the love of mankind, and will even kill themselves if they are unable to satisfy it.We see the same thing in those who are not rich, while the poor, so far, simply drown their unsatisfied needs and envy in drink. But soon they will get drunk on blood instead of wine, they are being led to that. I ask you: Is such a man free?

>>19961348
Stop groveling first of all. Then learn Korean I guess.

>>19962308
no. socially japan is by far the most westernised. media that you like notwithstanding.

>>19962308
>>19963292

How are both of you wrong? The Philippines is the most western asian country of all.

You are asian but also american, therefore a fusion of both cultures is whats up. Think James dean meets kpop

>>19961348
If you are second generation, it's already long over for you. fucking lmao

>>19962512
I don't use Discord much and Reddit is unappealing to me with its im so holy sanctimony and unrelenting conformism.
And I feel like thinking
> what really makes you any different from any other human being?
is part of what makes someone a vacuous drone in the modern world, and susceptible to messages in the media without being aware of if: 'If there is nothing different about me from everyone else, then why shouldn't I act and think like everyone else while I'm at it?'
I'm not racist, I'm not looking to be a Korean supremacist, or a cheerleader for the West but to simply try to connect with a more authentic version of the culture my ancestors were a part of. As for things like the Greeks, Stoics, they are secondarily relevant to me because I have the mind of a Westerner.

>>19961367
that english is so beyond cringe.

>>19961348
The fact that you dump everything under the umbrella of "Asian philosophy and art" thinking this is some unified tradition shows to how American you really are.
It's too late for you.

>>19962831
>loltyler1.com discount code "ALPHA"

DOOOOOPAAAA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWN!!!

>>19961384

just because you don’t know of any doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, dummy.

>>19962769
Actual American culture isn't Hollywood and tacos.

>>19964421
This is what they took from you OP…

>>19964421
WHOA ITS LE OLD TIMEY CHINESE ART SOOOO CULTURED AND DEEP MAN WHOA

fuck off, there's nothing worthwhile in Eastern cultures

>>19961384
https://www.amazon.com/Morte-Litt%C3%A9ratures-Sang-ryung-Park/dp/B075KZKKV4

Read this, if you can speak french

>>19961348
I am an Indian in the same situation and from my studies, I will say that the history of Asia, including you and I, was more closely known. From my studies, I recommend you learn Madhyamaka and start with the Daoists, then synthesize them. You will see elements of both.

>>19964503
>t. soulless mutt cope

>>19963316
>country in Southeast Asia was colonized by fucking Spaniards and Americans at one point
>therefore it must be the most culturally westernized
Aside from rampant Catholicism, professional pool players, and most flips' last names being technically Spanish, virtually nothing about the Phillippines resembles a western country, you fucking retard. I should have referred to South Korea as "Americanized" instead of westernized just so low-IQ imbeciles like you would know what the fuck I was talking about.

Plus I was only speaking in terms of westernized countries in fucking EAST ASIA. Not Southeast Asia or Asia as a whole, idiot. Learn to fucking read.

>>19961416
Oh my fucking god dude, what you are doing is the equivalent as me (a Swede) suddenly starting to larp as a viking.

>>19964605
holy seethe

>>19963014
Korean is harder than Chinese and Japanese.

Hangeul is just the script, dumbass.

>>19961746
Nobody except Japs look down on Koreans dude, calm down. At least whites don't.

Honestly, why are Asian Americans(I assume OP is American) like this? Why do they want to be more Asian than Asians themselves?

>>19961909
Absolutely take pride in your roots. Don't however think that there's something magical about it, some enlightenment waiting to happen if you just become more "korean".

>>19962769
Korea makes way better movies than the US does currently

>>19964605
>extremely racist and hateful towards flips

whoah maybe this guy really is in touch with his Korean side after all

>>19964662
Who cares? None of those languages are worth learning. Nothing of value has been written in any of those shit-tier languages?

Learn Latin or Russian instead.

>>19964746
Dream of the Red Chamber

>>19961348
>Stop referring to yourself as a bugman, even ironically
>Learn to speak, read, and write Korean with a high degree of fluency
there you go.

Okay I'm back and I have a serious question— For second gen immigrants and onward, or those living in the modern world, what exactly takes the place of culture? What larger force do people derive meaning from that gives them a reason to live beyond personal satisfaction? Or is it all about personal satisfaction at this point?
Culture is mostly vestigial, and the new efficient and technological system has and continues to condition our minds in a way that allows it to proliferate unchecked, and are we supposed to just satisfy ourselves to oblivion and leave it at that? Granted like many of you reading this I lead a more atomized life than most and haven't had a close friend in a long time and maybe I'm just trying to find some grandiose pretentious meaning to cover up loneliness, in this bugman trying to be the anti-bugman way and in doing so becoming just as comical and ridiculous as what he's trying to avoid... but fucking hell man, is it all just cope before AI and capitalism makes our life vacuous?

>>19964937
jesus christ, just hit the club dude

>>19964949
I hate being drunk and i hate the music they play. I don't feel confident around women at the moment. And I don't buy the just have sex/go to the club thing, what kind of world is it when the answer to a problem lies in braindead hedonism. Might as well be an ape if you resort to that

>>19964968
>what kind of world is it when the answer to a problem lies in braindead hedonism.

Even the most pious of monks were once sinners man, you can't escape that.

>>19964937
immigrants come from families that gave up their culture, language, native land, history, blood etc for money, what kind of deeper feelings are people like that supposed to have?

>>19964937
Culture never gave people something to derive meaning. Culture is the result of a world already imbued with meaning.

>>19964991
What a sophistic response. You can't use the example of people who moved away from what you're advocating as evidence for said advocation. There is a stark difference between an affirmation of the fallen state of reality, and actually recommending participation in its most egregious fallenness.

Begone, agent of Hell.

>>19961909
>And for that matter I believe that good things can be born out of hate and feelings of resentment.
No, brother. Belief doesn'tchange fact. It can't and won't.

>>19962160
>And while I'm at it, I'll pick up a kpop look, start dressing in palewave, embrace the whole boba aesthetic, and just try to date as much as possible. There, no more inferiority complex. No regret down the line over a youth spent in celibacy.
If I may - two of my oldest and closest friend were Korean. They internalized their race significantly more than white people thought it by a large margin - genuinely, the only thing that made me sad about my friends who weren't my race is I didn't feel we had freedom of speech because some words were "verboten." I genuinely think you underestimate the ability of intelligent people to completely ignore race. The only reason whites are uncomfortable with blacks is because they can't say nigger or joke about blacks. If not for that, it'd be easy going. I'd only be uncomfortable or think of your race as things that can't be said - i.e. gook, chink, what have you.

>>19965173
The only races that deserves being mocked are Jews and white liberals.

>>19965173
What you might call the more SJW side of me wants to say: I abhor what the word signifies, ie your place above me by default, a way to affirm the acknowledged but unspoken worldview that the Asian man will always be seen as weak, inferior, undesirable, etc., reducing an individual to mere flesh in a few syllables

But I know that thinking like this is just setting myself up for inferiority, weakness in my own mind and that's where I lose. Words are just words, and it sometimes it feels like feeling proud as an Asian man is like swimming upriver, but what can I do but to become a better swimmer?

>>19964937
You sound like you're trying to make culture some sort of religion to fill up your void with. I was born and raised in China, and guess how many young Chinese want to be raised in the culture you so despise? They all wish they don't have to deal with this cultural burden in the form of family pressure whatsoever. Look, it's always like this. You look on to other culture, seeing only the good side of it, but never the bad side. You like to babble about the system and whatnot, but has it ever occur to you that your wish is also imposed on you by the system, so that your desire becomes a list through which you can shop for culture like you do for grocery? You will only end up being like those new age hippies from the 60s who hopped from one religion to the next, never knowing any better.

Truth is, you can experience another culture, but you can never live through it. The only culture you get to live through is the one you're currently having, so you have only this to live with, no alternative. The sooner you accept this, the better. Then you can really start thinking about what's wrong with you, and what to do about it.

>>19965268
ching chang chong

>>19965265
>What you might call the more SJW side of me wants to say: I abhor what the word signifies, ie your place above me by default, a way to affirm the acknowledged but unspoken worldview that the Asian man will always be seen as weak, inferior, undesirable, etc., reducing an individual to mere flesh in a few syllables
Friend, I grew up in the midwest among tons of white people. Behind closed doors we don't talk about Asians like that at all - genuinely the most racist jokes I've heard in my life is that the local town's highschool had one person get into Harvard this year and naturally they were the Chinese kid whose parents owned the laundromat. In all honesty, small penis jokes are just in the abstract and most white people casually believe that Asians are smarter than them. Please keep in mind that your race and your feelings towards it are political capital for the liberal establishment - see here: https://bioleninism.wordpress.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/..
>Words are just words, and it sometimes it feels like feeling proud as an Asian man is like swimming upriver, but what can I do but to become a better swimmer?
Religion. Culture is vanity. This is a missing link in most fascist or conservative thought, but the cultural products of ypipo and the mayo monkeys (tm) at the cracker factory are vanity. What matters is how well can one act morally and ethically - the rest is vanity.

>>19965201
Sicilians? Irish "people"? Are you retarded? Have you met them? Yikes, ngmi

>>19965268
Yeah man I get it. My dad told me plenty of stories about how difficult and competitive it is to grow up in Asia. Compared to his life I had it easy as hell. I appreciate you and the other anon earlier in the thread reminding me of my privilege of living here. But this itself weighs on my mind, since coming to this country was a sacrifice of sorts, and I need to make my parents proud. Fuck culture, my family is more important.

>>19965313
Hey man it seems like you're having more of an identity crisis than a cultural one. I'd recommend reading the world's religious texts and seeing what's out there and if that doesn't slake the thirst then you can move into the cultural, but for most people (myself included) we find answers to these harder questions there.

>>19965311
Jews and white liberals are destructive in a way that makes them worse than any other race. No one deserves being mocked but sanctimonious and hypocritical faggots like them. I don't give a shit if people have in-group preference and leave me alone; it's when they start interacting with me trying to impose their nonsensical, self-destructive values that complications arise.

>>19965346
>Jews and white liberals are destructive in a way that makes them worse than any other race.
Yawn. If goys weren't so bad at shit maybe the evil Jews wouldn't dominate them so easily (I'm a goy).
>No one deserves being mocked but sanctimonious and hypocritical faggots like them.
Do you have a source for that?
>I don't give a shit if people have in-group preference and leave me alone; it's when they start interacting with me trying to impose their nonsensical, self-destructive values that complications arise.
No need for the hate. Discovering that an in-group w/o theological forgiveness who was discriminated against for 2K years in the West now has bitterness to that group is pretty obvious but no need for hate.

>>19965373
Whatever you say, Shlomo.

>>19965382
To clarify and not be a dick: anti-semitic thought is too easily conflated with obvious critiques of Jewish biases and I don't like seeing that lead to hate.

>>19965397
You have you own country. You can leave from Western countries now instead of parasitizing them.

>>19965415
One day you'll be able to Early life but today isn't that day

>>19965418
Your pilpul isn't going to work on me, Shlomo.

Wow this thread got me thinking and I have realized how much of a surface level, soulless human being I am. And you kniw what it doesn't even bother me. Literally modernity personified. Everything about me was opportunistically taken off the scrap heap of interactions I've had with others, in an attempt to fill in the gaps after I disowned everything my parents taught me about God, pride, hard work, and duty. I have never cared for anyone but myself— any friends I have barely register as individuals in my mind, but merely composite profiles of certain characteristics, tendencies, and features that I can choose to integrate by osmosis if I want. I try to imagine sometimes how I make them feel, but this lasts 5 seconds before I am sucked back into my solipsistic comforts. Anything I feel strongly for— creative ambitions, life tasks— fall apart, revealed as worthless vanity, but I hold onto them because producing something worthy of being remembered is all I have to live for. Even the act of typing this out is a dramatic, self-serving affect that has crystallized into habit over the years. I am the bugman par excellence who latches onto unimportant things and makes himself feel like they are oh so important and profound because deep down nothing feels important. I look down on bugmen because deep down I when I am simply a lone bug. I think I need Jesus. And spend time volunteering or some shit.

>>19965493
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-1/

>>19964637
yeah Swede put down the barbells and pick up the Dildos because you're NOT a Viking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Hx7GZByxk

>>19964252
baseline foundations work like you mock as superimposed umbrellas

>>19962973
they are and you can have them too just rebranded to your tribe's sages. Or you can invent philosophical Jargon like Chris Langan did so he can talk about samsara but not look like an Eastaboo about it.

>>19964678
>what living in a meaningless simulacra does to a mf

>>19965553
Maybe the key is to embrace the lack of meaning and solid ground, accept it like one accepts the foregone possibility of teenage love. And then after ruling suicide out as an option, because it would hurt your parents/loved ones and since it's terrifying to bring about your own death and not worth it, thinking about the silver lining to being alive in this time and maximizing the amount of meaning you can squeeze out of that. And I'm not talking about pleb shit like Netflix and Youtube but patrician things what one can do with the power of machines, learn skills that would've been limited to a few individuals in previous centuries, read any book or watch any film you want, yeah it's cope but what is life at this point but a means of bringing about the gestating techno-deity en route fucking hell. Family and friends all that matters. Yes.

>>19965610
>>19964937
I'm a white guy wielding vedanta and I'm a powerlifter so I'm not a cringy onions boy weaboo about it but a conquistador.
Meta meaning is what is permanent all other concepts are impermanent and dependent on contingent origination.
Evola, Guenon, Langan, all these eggheads transcend culture and create a culture of standing outside culture. However these eggheads are speaking to us with ladles for what has been said long before by rishis and monks in higher ages beyond our dark age. Dharma is a river of cultures through which all ontologies pass through. We are globalized interconnected and incapable of forming a new canon besides a meta canon. We are different race Zoomers et al but this means our different takes and approaches to the same metacanon will express ourselves without our own self portrait being a deliberate act. We must prepare spiritually to be self contained and unshakeable within ourselves for when AI and CryptoCommunistCapitalism do equalize our lives into vacuous segmented metered switch controlled human zoos. We will have a delightful garden of the mind that itself is fertile when the world will be barren. You can relive the past in ceremony and scrap book ornament but the current populations are dissolving beyond a sense of self and moment to absolute obedience.
>>19964991
you can escape it by not being a loser, loser. oh man its inconcievable to go 10 minutes without booze and womanizing? give me a break you degenerate

>>19965673
anti emptiness, sunyata is based
metaverse is cringe

>this topic turned into a liberal circle-jerk
Proof that zoomers don't give a shit about anything besides getting more bread crumbs from their Shlomo leaders. Zoomers just flip flop to whatever political position best supports their self-interests in a health beat.
Honestly, the issue is more of a generational one. Every single Zoomer and their proceeding generations should be killed.

>>19965710
>health beat.
heart beat*

>>19965710
there's a liberal circle jerk but a couple dudes trying to know themselves and build themselves as their own brand.
Shit the realization of some lacking meaning is nearing the realization of emptiness in Schopenahuerian/Buddhist sense. Funny how all threads wind down this refrain. Like a hymn of lonely thinkers.

>>19965676
the whole whole is a hole within a hole

>>19965732
within a hologram

The Great Wisdom Heart Sutra
Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva,
when practicing deeply the Prajna Paramita,
perceived that all five skandhas are empty
and was saved from all suffering and distress.
“Shariputra, form does not differ from emptiness;
emptiness does not differ from form.
That which is form is emptiness,
that which is emptiness, form.
The same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses, consciousness.
Shariputra, all dharmas are marked with emptiness;
they do not appear nor disappear,
are not tainted nor pure,
do not increase nor decrease.
Therefore, in emptiness no form,
no feelings, perceptions, impulses, consciousness;
no eyes, no ears, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind;
no color, no sound, no smell, no taste, no touch, no object of mind;
no realm of eyes and so forth until no realm of mind-consciousness;
no ignorance and also no extinction of it, and so forth until
no old age and death and also no extinction of them;
no suffering, no origination, no stopping, no path,
no cognition, also no attainment.
With nothing to attain
the Bodhisattva depends on Prajna Paramita
and mind is no hindrance.
Without any hindrance no fears exist;
far apart from every perverted view, one dwells in Nirvana.
In the three worlds all Buddhas depend on Prajna Paramita
and attain unsurpassed, complete, perfect enlightenment.
Therefore know the Prajna Paramita
is the great transcendent mantra,
is the great bright mantra,
is the utmost mantra,
is the supreme mantra
which is able to relieve all suffering
and is true, not false.
So proclaim the Prajna Paramita mantra,
proclaim the mantra that says:
Gate, Gate, paragate, parasamgate! Bodhi! Svaha!”

>>19965721
>Shit the realization of some lacking meaning is nearing the realization of emptiness in Schopenahuerian/Buddhist sense.
No. You haven't studied the Mahayana sutras enough, you crypto-nihilist.
>build themselves as their own brand.
Who the hell describes issues of meaning as "building a brand"? How old are you?

>>19965799
It's a learning process is what I'm saying I have not claimed final knowledge but I see it in my horizon. Nihilism is a symptom to the realization to the origin of suffering and the emptiness of form, is it not?
I sense you heckle without good will but to score a gotcha. No score for you.

>>19965799
Building a brand is a good ironic and snarky jab at the capitalistic killing of Korean OP's root identity. That's the best you can do after that fact. You will never suspend your disbelief like you did as a Xnese Xican. Generic reality needs concrete branding within our environment to work. It won't otherwise, you raging McFaggot.

>>19965815
Read and actually do something like Shikantaza, you perverse moron.
>No score for you.
Stop talking like this. How old are you?
>>19965820
>good ironic
>McFaggot
Stop talking like that, you stupid Zoomer shithead. It doesn't fit a solemn discussion about important matters. Does you generation really talk like that irl? Holy shit, you people are not human beings. Social media really wrecked your minds.
If I were talking to someone about important matters, and he started speaking in memes, I would laugh and cut the conversation short.
You brain has rotted from memes, you cretinized dysgenic pos.

Learn to read fluently. Learn the history of Korea. Confucianism and Buddhism is a humanist religion and there were significant historical figures who had impressive political philosophies. This includes Jung Do Jeon who proclaimed the King is nothing without the people and tried to make a limited democracy and of course Sejong the great who made one of the most intuitive writing systems ever. In terms of poetry and literature it's a little less accessible but I'd recommend Yun Dong Ju.

>>19965871
This is an example of a good post.

I hate bugmen so much bros

Just this thread alone is pissing me off because I have to see an ugly chink in the catalog every single time I clear cookies

>>19965892
Just hide the thread again, you melodramatic zoomer shithead.

>>19965837
>social media wrecked your minds
For OP who thinks America is tiktok burgers and retail yes but for us Westerners showing him the bridge back home, no our minds are not wrecked but intact for millennia.
Nah son the Western Sage has ALWAYS been this jester. Socrates was the GADFLY of Athens. Christ was the illiterate tantrum of Jerusalem. Julius Caesar was a womanizer bully. Zeus was a patricidal womanizer just as his father and his father's father. Memes ARE important. Sincerity being flexible is key to grasping the loosely probable and barely conceivable. Without humor you are left with rote blind obedience and deterministic lack of rhythm. You are left with REDDIT. Is REDDIT your country's culture? Probably.
Do you want that?
Isn't this thread a malaise of huffing REDDIT poison all day and blaming the ruins of our flags on it? Do you browse an anime board with freedom for unbound hostility and international acclaim for somber reassurance?

>>19965917
You have no cultural continuity to your past greater thinkers and you are just reinventing them to feel better about your present depraved, air-headed state. Shut the fuck up, you subhuman zoomer filth. A jester is rarely a contemplative wise man.
>Without humor you are left with rote blind obedience and deterministic lack of rhythm.
Excessive humor, in this context, is just a way to deflect from your own shallowness. Kys, you arrogant punk. Zoomer shithead.
>REDDIT
Plebbit and this shithole are two sides of the same coin thanks to your trashy surface-level and meme rotted generation.
Go back to jerking off to porn and watching meme-like anime.

>>19965871
Good post
Proven by 리얼 코리안

>>19965930
You say meme like an epithet. I say it like a soma badge of honor. I raise it like a champagne glass. Airheaded? Yes that Dionysean light footedness is the absolute mark of confident Europeans. Zarathustra was a Jester who mocked his enemies in drab black priest cloth as foolish tarantulas. All of Shakespeare's Jesters were the most contemplative wise men known by the common man thanks to the jest of the Globe Theater. As much as I love rebuking your sissy rage, this thread isn't about entering the West but leaving it. This is the mark it left on you. A sticky note on the back of your backpack that says "kick me"

>>19965950
*You* have no cultural continuity to any past historical Western minds.
Cioran-like mentality may have advantages, but the difference between him and you is he was at least intelligent.
The West died with social media.

>>19965959
I actually do but this isn't a biopic on one of the West's last sons. That's the one thing no one can take away from me. It's the source of my SMUG POWER.
The West dying is an opportune thing for the spiritually minded ready for the next age. As Thomas Carlyle said, "It's time to change out of these old Hebrew clothes" (paraphrase from memory not an exact string)

>>19966019
>I actually do
No, you don't. You're just a memelord, edgelord faggot who is just a conservative for liberal values.
>this isn't a biopic on one of the West's last sons.
Don't care. I just don't like faggots like you who think they're witty and humorous while ultimately being shallow and dim-witted.
> SMUG POWER.
You should get a punch in the face, you smug pseudointellectual asswipe.
>The West dying is an opportune thing for the spiritually minded ready for the next age.
>spiritually minded
Definitely not you.
>Thomas Carlyle
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like you at all since you're making a mockery out of all virtues just for a laugh. Stupid faggot. You need a good punch in that smug face. Stfu.

>>19966031
Laughter and friendship is the supreme virtue from Valhalla to Veda to Metta and yes even in Marvel movies as a cardboard cut out of what once was glorious marble in substance. When this is gone you are slaves unworthy of being called an Arya. Then you sit in your pews and cling to your rosary. Lose your foreskin and subjugate your soul like a bug.

>>19966031
why are you so distrustful of sincere laughter?

>>19966052
>>19966060
Memes are not important. They oversimplify thinking and nuance and make you into memelord, edgelord fuckers. You basically become caricatures full of contradictions such as how you're ultimately conservatives for liberal values. You lack the depth and nuance of great past European thinkers and writers. You cannot tell apart boorishness from cultural & sophistication. Genuinely kill yourselves.

>>19966089
>You cannot tell apart boorishness from cultural sophistication
You cannot tell that boorishness IS cultural sophistication

>>19966382
Sir Henry Neville was probably the real author of Shakespeare's plays.

>>19961385
i did kuk sool won (korean martial art) for some years, if you're in the states definitely try that. It always had a focus on imbuing the whole korean culture into the student, not just the martial art. Maybe youll even find an instructor who is korean himself. Fuck i wish something like that existed for my ethnic background (west african), which im similarly alienated of.

>>19961348
>If so, how can I get started?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

>>19966533
>>19961348

>>19966538

It's a BS doctrine NK came up with to "prove" that their dear leader was as smart as Mao... The irony is that Mao was originally ripping of Soviet intellectual leaders like Lenin or Stalin. In essence, juche is a copy of an imitation.

>>19961783
>your "connection" to them is a coat of paint on your skin
Thats not how genetics work, my guy.