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>short story about a 20 year old women who meets a ugly nervous guy and lets him fuck her because she didn’t want to navigate turning him down

>goes viral and thousands of women write that they relate. Becomes a huge screed about patriarchy.

Lmao? Women go to bars and hook up because saying no is too awkward? And this is men’s fault? Are they children?

>> No.19929271 [DELETED] 

>>19929082
Women go to bars and the only thing that matters is the common man. It's just like that, the most recent years of experience. If you're right about that we have been better than the original. The first thing I have ever seen.
Probably will never have enough space, but the logic of it is also the source. It's just first time in the history of the hazards with a trusted editor of the hazards. The same thing about to get that work done for you, but the original packaging is not clean. If you're right about that we have to believe in the original text.The new version was not going anywhere. The first time we are in the process, and you can feed them for sale.
Ok. Probably won't have any trouble. Go back home to be there soon! Others are confirmed for the rest. If it doesn't have any problems that you could give me, the best regards to your reply. I'm pleased about what time you have been taking, and I have loads of this. You could also try harder for you but it's the same thing in the end.
And this is the fault in the end. It's been taking care of the hazards, but it was too much for the whole. What you will need for the whole item, you should know.
Are they children who were received from today's announcement? What will you do now? What will ever be done?

>> No.19929287

>>19929082
The story isn't for you.

You're a privileged male pig.

You can't even imagine the existential horror of being hit on by a sub-chad man.

>> No.19929329

>>19929082
>cat person
>perfect bait for incels
Just stop caring faggot

>> No.19929470

>>19929082
Haven't read the story but yes, this is how dating and hookups work for women. You don't have to be a feminist to recognize the gendered structures and rape culture that exists within these interactions.

>> No.19929491

Morality bump

>> No.19929576

>>19929470
Rape then: forcing sex without consent

Rape now: I said yes to sex but I secretly didn’t want it and since you didn’t read my mind it’s societies fault

>> No.19929603

>>19929576
There are lots of types of rapes, some are pretty inconsequential like that second one.

>> No.19929614

>>19929082
>thousands of women write that they relate
This is bullshit. No woman has ever had difficulty turning me down. Where are all these doormats hiding at?

>> No.19929624

>>19929576
Rape now: Well yeah we were fucking for two weeks but he's kinda clingy now and none of my friends like him so it's rape I think?

>> No.19929636

>>19929614
It's just projected shame from stupid sluts.

>> No.19929766

>>19929082
>Women go to bars and hook up because saying no is too awkward?
Sometimes, yes, you can pester sluts into having sex.

>> No.19929876
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19929876

>>19929287
Yes I can and I inflict this horror purposefully every day.

>> No.19929911

Apparently the overwhelming majority of women don't even cum during hookups but they still do it. Women are absolutely retarded.

>> No.19929956

>>19929911
Women don't cum. My girlfriend has never orgasmed in two years

>> No.19929958

>>19929911
They don't even communicate because they're scared of mens response, why even put yourself in the position then?

>> No.19929989

>>19929956
They're literally too dumb to work out how their body works and how to satisfy it.

>> No.19930001

>>19929956
Can confirm, had a gf for three years and she never cummed once - though she did fake it early in the relationship. Obviously, soon after we broke up it turned out she was getting fucked by Chads on the side. Not ONCE did she attempt to communicate how to make her retarded slimehole cum. I hate women.

>> No.19930008

>>19929956
>Women don't cum.
With you.

>> No.19930009

>>19929911
I can do this but I feel next to no pleasure from sex unless I imagine violent acts or mystical union. Therefore I no longer have sex.

>> No.19930016

>>19930009
>mystical union.
u w0t

>> No.19930034

Ant-bump. What an awful thread

>> No.19930035

>>19930016
Start with the Greeks

>> No.19930164

>>19930001
It's extremely easy to make them cum, are you autistic by any chance?

>> No.19930172

>>19930164
No

>> No.19930179

>>19929082
I remember reading this when it came out that the author stole the story. If you identify with the male character you need to take a hard look at yourself.

>> No.19930177

>>19929956
>>19930001
>buy vibrator
>apply to clit
The easiest way literally has two steps you absolute mongs.

>> No.19930183

>>19929576
All of my ex-girlfriends have structurally raped me, we need to address these injustices and imprison women who rape by dishonesty. Patriarchy isn't exclusively a male phenomenon, women also abuse patriarchal structures to rape feminist men (like me).

>> No.19930205

>>19930177
>need to buy a robocock to get her off
>doesn't ask for it, need to read her mind too
I'll stick to fapping, thanks

>> No.19930492

>>19929956
>I am the worst lover in existence.
Be glad you’re anonymous right now.

>> No.19930643

>>19929956
Here come all the sex signalers.

>> No.19930648

>>19930034
fuk u

>> No.19930662

>>19929082
This is just another self-own from women, something they do frequently. Ask yourselves if you personally know of any time a guy has harmed or harassed a woman you know after a break up/rejection. In my experience it’s actually the opposite and cunts harangue the men. Most people are complete cowards and scared of conflict, unless you count angry messages on the internet as such.

>> No.19931489

>>19929082
>he doesn't know the crazy backstory
>neither does anyone else
>And they're still years late to the party
jej

>> No.19931513

>>19931489
What?

>> No.19931529

>>19929956
Top kek good bait.

>> No.19931537

>>19930662
Where do you live? Where Im from its common after separation for the male to slap up the female and then she comes crawling back to him.

>> No.19931927

>>19931537
Are you from Ireland?

>> No.19931942

>>19929956
Based bait
>captcha JPVT4
>JAPUTA
>¡JA! PUTA

>> No.19931947

>>19929082
If a women ever is close to having sex with me and doesnt want to have sex with me PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS just stachben me or something

>> No.19932023

Women pretend to have agency but deep down everyone knows that they don't have agency, at least not all the time. If you have some advantage over her, you can literally just order a woman to have sex with you and she will, even if she doesn't want to. This explains the more befuddling MeToo stories like Louis CK and Aziz Ansari. Yes the women "consented", but consent assumes agency and women only have agency in certain circumstances.

>> No.19932226

>>19932023
Is this the equivalent of thinking with your dick?

>> No.19932246

>>19930183
Yeah. I got that too anon. They think because media makes male molestation hot they're entitled to dick when they please.

>> No.19932261

>>19929956
hahaha

>> No.19932274

>>19929956
Women will literally come from dry-humping through clothes if they are in love with you

>> No.19932281

>>19929603
infinitely expanding definition of rape alert

>> No.19932298

>>19929082
Have an argument about this with a feminist once. She claimed this was rape. I told her about that one time I had pity sex with some nice but very ugly girl and she got really angry for being so superficial and misogynist.

>> No.19932361

>>19929956
True
>No I am sex machine every girl cums when I walk down the street
Liars

>> No.19932725

>>19931489
came here for this

>> No.19933011

>>19929956
>>19930001
Underrated posts for pre-zoomers, and the precise reasons why feminism is a good thing. Before PC culture women were not in touch with their bodies as much. Many of them didn't masturbate, watched way less porn, and had no fucking idea how to make themselves cum. If you got with a girl in her teens, chances are she have no fucking idea how her own body works. The reason why they chose older chads is because they are more experienced and supposedly teach them how to orgasm. I have witnessed this with girls as old as 25 who never had orgasms until they met an experienced male partner.
People in here are so angry at pc culture, but it has made sex objectively better. If your partner can tell you what she likes freely and is not ashamed of being inside her own body, this is better for both of you. Before pc culture you, as a man, were responsible in teaching a woman how to enjoy sex. Now they can choose for themselves - and are not ashamed to teach you, if you're young and (understandably) inexperienced.

>> No.19933092

>>19933011
Lol

>> No.19933134

>>19929082

Can't belive how shallow and not-even-midwit this reading of the short story is. I know 4chan loves to meme about hating women and pretending "everything is rape" but this is just dumb as fuck

>> No.19933406

>>19929956
>My girlfriend has never orgasmed in two years
She has.

>> No.19933429

>>19931513
the story is "stolen" from the real life experiences of an acquaintance. except all the parts where the guy is a gross asshole. the author made that up to sell the story at the height of me too. in real life the girl says that he was actually really kind, a good lover, and they mutually broke things off.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/07/cat-person-kristen-roupenian-viral-story-about-me.html

>> No.19933440

>>19933011
Yeah now you never see a woman with an older man.

>> No.19933510

>>19929271
Broken bot

>> No.19933574

>>19933011
Great b8 m8

>> No.19934678

>>19929082
most women despite claiming the full rights of a sovereign subject still act as though they are subordinate to a man, somewhere. the error most men make is accepting this claim to equal subjectivity at face value and attempt to live in an ethical environment structured around it. women are bad faith actors in this scenario. it's literally do as i say not as i do

>> No.19934696

>>19933011
>sex can be objectively evaluated based on the production of orgasms
the bourgeoisie are a cancer

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>>19929082
Women go to bars and hook up because they want the same thing men do:

>non clingy sex with someone hot and fun

The last thing a woman wants is a doormat who loves her

>> No.19934748

>>19933134
That’s literally all there is to it.

>> No.19934979

>>19933429
what a read that was
>emotionally devastating two people for no reason when you could have just changed some details or even asked them ahead of time for permission
>for a story you wrote solely to play the victim and accuse others of being creepy assholes
very interesting

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>>19934727
>The last thing a woman wants is a doormat who loves her
This. I had to learn the hard way.

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>>19929956
Females do not deserve pleasure. They exist on this earth for two things only: their XX chromosomes and their eggs. Even their womb is debatable in its utility as technology progresses to replace it. The ideal female is blinded, deafened, de-toothed, and de-limbed, strapped onto a bed, fed eggs and milk and honey, cleaned with a fresh cloth.

>> No.19935560

>>19929082
The difference of skin tone is uncomfortably high. I have to block this image.

>> No.19935582

>>19934727
>because they want the same thing men do
nah, not exactly. men are primarily concerned with the actual act of sex. seeing the naked woman and the feeling of fucking her. while for women that are into hookups it's not so much because the sex, but because of the thrill and validation that comes along with it.

>> No.19936757

>>19935582
?

>> No.19936792

>>19929287
I’m a woman and can confirm that getting hit on my a low tier men (typically niggers) is one of the worst feelings. It’s not the guy’s fault though, it’s just the universe telling me I need to loose a few pounds.

>> No.19936869

>>19933011
What is this experience meme? Are people so retarded that they cannot improve at sex? Yeah the first time might be a little awkward but its still fun. Then you talk to her about it, the different things you like, and it gets better each time. Why do you need a girl that has plowed through the football team? Are you incapable of teaching her how to have sex?

>> No.19936900

>>19929082
Oh boy another thread where men tell other men exactly how woman work.
Yawn.

>> No.19936908

>>19936900
If women would just tell men what they want then men wouldn't have to go to other men to find out.

>> No.19936932

>>19929082
and the whole thing was plagiarized
https://archive.is/Wkaz5
>Some of the most pivotal scenes—the sexual encounter and the hostile text messages—were unfamiliar to me. But the similarities to my own life were eerie: The protagonist was a girl from my small hometown who lived in the dorms at my college and worked at the art house theater where I’d worked and dated a man in his 30s, as I had. I recognized the man in the story, too. His appearance (tall, slightly overweight, with a tattoo on his shoulder). His attire (rabbit fur hat, vintage coat). His home (fairy lights over the porch, a large board game collection, framed posters). It was a vivid description of Charles. But that felt impossible. Could it be a wild coincidence? Or did Roupenian, a person I’d never met, somehow know about me?

>After I read the story, I sent Charles the link. At that point, we weren’t in regular communication, but we still texted occasionally. “It seems like we’ve been stalked,” I joked. He texted me as he was reading:
>“this is weird!”
>“it is very disparaging to the guy, am I a slimeball”

>It wasn’t until six months after Charles’ death that I finally gained the courage to email Roupenian.
>When I was living in Ann Arbor, I had an encounter with a man. I later learned, from social media, that this man previously had a much younger girlfriend. I also learned a handful of facts about her: that she worked in a movie theater, that she was from a town adjacent to Ann Arbor, and that she was an undergrad at the same school I attended as a grad student. Using those facts as a jumping-off point, I then wrote a story that was primarily a work of the imagination, but which also drew on my own personal experiences, both past and present. In retrospect, I was wrong not to go back and remove those biographical details, especially the name of the town. Not doing so was careless.

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>>19935582
At a base level men and women want to fuck/get fucked, everything else is a "social construction"

Why do you think game works? Because everythiing is based off instinct, only after the morning dew evaporates does rational thought take over

>> No.19936973

>>19933011
You have no evidence to support that claim because the studies have been done and they show no increase in orgasm capacity in the overall female population. Can't be bothered to link on phone. Go Google.

>> No.19936977

>>19936932
Even better, the author and the man in the story were the same age when they dated. So this is a story of a mid-thirties roastie finding out her boyfriend used to date a younger girl so she writes fanfiction of their relationship to paint her (now ex) boyfriend as a creep to make herself feel better. This is after cyber stalking the younger girl and learning everything she could about her life, of course.

>> No.19937021

>>19929956
See a sexologist and learn to make her orgasm together. Orgasm happens in the brain and both men and women can hands free orgasm and multiple orgasm. The inability to enjoy sex might have something to do with engaging in the mortal sin of fornication.

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>>19933011
jesus christ I hate leftists so much.

>> No.19937070

>>19937036
>jesus christ I hate leftists so much.
whats this about

>> No.19937093

>>19934727
She wants someone stronger than her that loves her. It's pretty simple.

>> No.19937234

>>19937093
Boom

Exactly.

>> No.19937336

>>19936792
I've seen it

>> No.19938265

>>19936792
>one of the worst feelings is realizing you're a few pounds overweight
???

>> No.19938650

>>19937036
pic unrelated

>> No.19938676

>>19936932
>>19936977

This is just how women write though, they have no real capacity for imagination. Everything needs to be based off of something that actually happened.

Joyce Carol Oates comes to mind, where she just sees something in the news like the Tawana Brawley story and writes a thinly veiled fictionalized version of it.

>> No.19938754

>>19938676
JCO has epilepsy so she writes compulsively, iirc. It's not really comparable to most authors who aren't working by word count. The author in this case isn't just reaching for material on her ten thousandth novel, so some guy she dated and his ex were taking up a lot more free real estate in her imagination than probably most things Oates writes about. Oates just needs to write something, while this author needs to write about how awful her date was far beyond the scope of what she knew about him.

>> No.19939448

>>19929082
>hook up because saying no is too awkward?
Literally happened to me and I'm a guy
saying no is hard

>> No.19939458

>>19936792
>I’m a woman
uh huh

>> No.19939466

>>19929956
is she white? only dog dicks will do the job I'm afraid

>> No.19939642

>>19935545
>Even their womb is debatable in its utility as technology progresses to replace it.

What a retarded statement, you think a male body can handle giving birth? Have you SEEN a male body?

>> No.19939860

>>19939642
Pretty sure he's talking about artificial wombs, not male pregnancy

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>>19929082
lol

>> No.19940337

>>19940134
>men are to blame for this
Every fucking time. No accountability.

>> No.19940685

>>19929876
Basado?

>> No.19940986

>>19930001
No wonder you couldn't make her cum if you're calling it a "slimehole", christ almighty. You sound like the least sensual man imaginable, no wonder she was fucking other people on the side.

If you're going to be a chauvinist pig you have to accept that a man's role is to do the fucking. If you aren't making her cum you failed as a man.

>>19932361
Some of us are attractive

>> No.19941134

>>19936869
>what is this experience meme
I believe the other anon was speaking from a standpoint of maximizing sexual pleasure. Two inexperienced people do not have good chances of maximizing sexual pleasure even if they fuck each other for ages. Sure you can teach her how to fuck but you will never exhibit enough diverse sexual behaviour for her to know exactly what she likes. There are many many different sexual behaviours on earth that could be exactly what gets her off but they just never occur to you to do. Sure pepis in bagina is a pretty simple motion but there is much more to sex than that. So, if you want the most sexual pleasure out of each other it's best that the both of you have knowledge of a variety of sexual behaviours to try. Now it could be that you ARE actually perfect for each other, but there's no way to know that's the case without experience. Besides, virgins lack a sort of sexual confidence that many find appealing. Intimately knowing that many people find you desirable gives you confidence that's unattainable any other way.

>why
Having a girl that's been fucked by a lot of people means having a sexually depraved girl with a deep bag of tricks. If you've ever fucked a girl like that you would know it's an extremely pleasurable experience. Now you can moralize about it all you want but you simply can't get that sort of thing out of most virgins no matter how hard you try.