/lit/ - Literature

>>19902668
Urth of the New Sun if you haven't read that, or Book of the Long Sun

>>19902668
Read The Fifth Head of Cerberus, and then read Urth of the New Sun. Urth is very good, but if you read it immediately after BOTNS you'll get whiplash from the stylistic and tonal differences. Same goes for Book of the Long Sun, which is a separate story set in the same universe rather than a direct sequel. Suspending judgment on Short Sun because I haven't finished reading it.

>>19902668
Urth is the obvious choice. I'd also highly recommend The Wizard Knight.

>>19902681
I like this plan, thanks.

>>19902668
I liked Soldier of the Mist.

tfw getting filtered by urth

>>19902974
What aren't you liking about it?

>>19902668
I stopped reading after the Claw of the Conciliator because I was so intensely disgusted by the consumption of Thecla's flesh. It seemed like Severian was cucking and in the most disgusting way too, although of course I'm biased because cannibalism is a phobia of mine. Anyone have any takes on this? Is it worth reading past that point?

>>19902668
>listening to analysis
Where.?

>>19903102
>Is it worth reading past that point?
Yes, very much so. I've heard the consumption of her flesh being compared to a false Eucharist alas it's definitely a disturbing and evil thing that occured there. Something similar but less evil in nature is going to occur later on, so consider yourself warned, I guess.

>>19902681
I felt like Long Sun was a very long prelude to Short Sun. Though I'm a midwit so maybe there are things that I should have appreciated from Long Sun on its own, which I did not.

>>19904587
There is a great podcast with hundreds of episodes call alzabo soup. Pretty much have an hour long discussion for each chapter.

>>19902668
I just finished it myself last month, really loved it too. I’m reading Fifth Head of Cerberus now and liking it a lot, think it’s a good place to go next.

>>19903048
I like enough to finish it, but I don't understand much of what is happening or what it means

>>19904682
I liked it. Silk was a very compelling character and the problem of evil stuff was great. The only thing I didn't like was how the ending felt rushed, but Short Sun picks up the story almost immediately afterwards.

bump

>>19905549
such is the mystery of the universe

Wolfe was Catholic, important to note

>>19904665
Alright, I’ll give it some more then. It just so severely disgusted my sensibilities, the woman of his ultimate compassion literally being eaten in front of him by a gang of cannibals just to get a little memory “high”, the enjoyment of the consumption of her soul in such a foul way. It actually made me feel ill and put the book down in disgust and frustration. I wanted Severian to use Terminus Est to deal away with them right then and there. I’m trusting you anon.

>>19905246
>alzabo soup
Are they educated people analyzing the style, narrative and themes or is it more of a classic podcast (bros retelling the plot, recounting what they thought was awesome, hangin out)

>>19908293
You sound like a complete faggot.

>>19908685
What kind of people do you think will record hundreds of hours of autistic dissection of Wolfe's 5d subversive fiction?

>>19908685
It is quite intense. Very academic approach.

>>19902668
Bros, why does this book make me feel so retarded?

>>19908983
glad im not the only one.

>>19908725
seethe

>>19908983
>>19908987

It does filter a certain iq level. I would say you need 110-115+ to appreciate it.

>>19909103
I'm 109-104...

I enjoyed reading it a few years ago and since then it has stuck with me like few other books. I'll often have random scenes work their way into my mind.

>>19905246
>>19908851
Anything similar but in written form?

>>19908293
I get it. Vodalus is a piece of crap and the book is fully aware of that. Keep reading, Sword of the Lictor is probably the best of the 4.

>>19908851
Lol ok I’ll bite
>>19908776
Neckbeard table toppers? All I read is fantasy nerds? Theology students? I have no idea

>>19908725
>You VILL eat ze gf
Cope, seethe

I was filtered by it, I guess. It was just a boring journey. Sure there was some interesting stuff based on time and the extra-terrestrial component but hardly enough to justify the 4 books I sunk into it.

>>19908293
It's okay because despite being a bit of a faget Severian was in fact Christ so dead Thecla got transformed to living Thecla within him, and they lived happily ever after and also before (subsequent to a few more adventures)

>>19902668
Urth, then give Latro a try.

>>19910404
>was in fact Christ
NO.

>>19910404
Wolfe literally says Severian isn’t a christ figure.

>>19912010
He literally turns water into wine at one point, fuck off

>>19908983
It makes everyone feel that way, some people just like scratching at the puzzle box

>>19908685
I'd say more of the latter. They generally go through the events of a chapter, and what they could mean. For some reason they try to avoid spoilers, even though they have both read the books several times. If you want a dryer version of the same, you could try Rereading Wolfe, which is more academic and includes occasional interviews. Here they go in with the assumption that you've already read and understood the whole BotNS.
There's also the Gene Wolfe Literary Podcast, but they are going through Wolfe's works chronologically and are currently at Peace.